13441 | 18 July 2017 12:16 |
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 11:16:49 +0000
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Re: Closure of the List | |
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From: "Herson, John" Subject: Re: Closure of the List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Dear Bill, Thanks for all the work you and Patrick have put into this list over many y= ears. I'm sorry to see it go but fully understand your reasons. Hopefully s= ee you and all the other contributors in Dublin. John Herson -----Original Message----- From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behal= f Of Bill Mulligan Sent: 05 July 2017 01:20 To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [IR-D] Closure of the List With considerable sadness I must inform list members that the list will cea= se operation on July 31, 2017. We will continue to post items of interest t= o Irish Diaspora Studies as well as information on accessing the list archi= ves, etc./ After consulting my fellow list owner Anthony McNicholas and list founder P= addy O'Sullivan this seems the reasonable thing to do. List traffic has dec= lined dramatically and what traffic we have is largely announcements. It h= as been some time since we had a discussion of any length or spirit. Perhaps out high point was the spirited discussion of Richard Jensen's arti= cle on the lack of discrimination against Irish Americans. More recently th= ere was little response to a young (high school) student who published a pi= ece disproving his thesis and his response. Electronic media has evolved an= d listserves are no longer new or innovative. I have noticed many groups mo= ving to Facebook pages. I see little real, engaged discussion. Technology moves on. Over the next few weeks I will share some thoughts on what I think we have = accomplished and welcome other to share. I value the many people I have met= through the list , several of whom invited me to stay in their homes befor= e they had actually met me. I will always remember hearing people whisper= to the person next to them "that's what he looks like" when I gave some op= ening remarks as a substitute at the Ireland Australia conference some year= s ago in Cork. The list has been a large part of my life and my career but = its day is over. I want to remind everyone of the Diaspora conference at UCD next month. I a= m sure it will be brilliant. I had very much been looking forward to it - b= ut we (Murray State) start unusually early this year. I am teaching severa= l courses that will be heavily first year students and I have learned from = experience not being with them for the beginning poses problems and is hard= to overcome. I will be there in spirit. To everything there is a season ... Bill William H. Mulligan, Jr. , PhD MSU Alumni Association Distinguish Professor of History ed Researcher 2012 MSU Board of Regents Award for Teaching Excellence, 2005 Murray State University Murray KY 42071-3341 USA Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk] President, Jackson Purchase Historical Society President, Chapter 302 The Honor Society of Phi Kappa Phi ________________________________ Important Notice: the information in this email and any attachments is for = the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recip= ient, or a person responsible for delivering it to an intended recipient, y= ou should delete it from your system immediately without disclosing its con= tents elsewhere and advise the sender by returning the email or by telephon= ing a number contained in the body of the email. No responsibility is accep= ted for loss or damage arising from viruses or changes made to this message= after it was sent. The views contained in this email are those of the auth= or and not necessarily those of Liverpool John Moores University. | |
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13442 | 19 July 2017 12:10 |
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:10:18 +0100
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A Valediction, Forbidding Mourning | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: A Valediction, Forbidding Mourning MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: So let us melt, and make no noise, No tear-floods, nor sigh-tempests move; 'Twere profanation of our joys To tell the laity our love. From Patrick O'Sullivan First of all, let me wholeheartedly thank Bill Mulligan for his support and friendship over the decades - and especially, on your behalf, for his support of the Irish Diaspora List. I think it is in all our experience of trying to develop Irish Diaspora Studies that there are people who just get it - and, from the very beginning, Bill Mulligan got it. Bill and I have not actually met all that often. In 2009 he did manage to visit me, here in Yorkshire, and enjoyed a little voyage on my narrowboat - see the Ir-D message dated 05/04/2009, Bill et Paddy vont en bateau. (And, of course, it was only Patrick Maume who grasped that cultural reference...) I don't think I ever reported that, on that voyage, Bill behaved with his usual calm when the throttle cable snapped... Pause for meditation. Yes, the throttle cable snapped. I also thank Anthony McNichols, for his continuing quiet support in the background. One feature of the Irish Diaspora List is that it is self-referencing - that is, whenever an important change is made there is a message that records that change, on the list, and in its archives. So, let me continue that practice. Background I founded our email discussion forum, the Irish Diaspora List, in November 1997 - when I had an academic base at the University of Bradford. In 2004 I moved the Irish Diaspora list to Jiscmail, the UK's academic Listserv. I did manage to preserve the archives of the Irish Diaspora list, from the very beginning. Through many vicissitudes. In 2011, we were able - with the help of the technicians at Jiscmail - to integrate the various incarnations of the Irish Diaspora List within Jiscmail. So that the entire archive, from 1997 to the present, is there within Jiscmail. If you log into Ir-D at Jiscmail you can see the archives there, right back to 1997. In May 2012 I withdrew from the day to day management of the Irish Diaspora List. I do have to say that, for me, this was the right decision. Simply put, I have reached an age and a stage where I should take better care of myself - and that means rationing the amount of time I spend at keyboards and computers. And maybe, given that I am supposed to be a working writer, give more time to just working at writing... In 2013 I stored away the archives of the Irish Diaspora List, as things stood at that point. This material, sixteen years of archives of the Irish Diaspora List, 1997-2013, is now stored on two computer discs. Copies of these discs have been lodged with the Glucksman Ireland House, NYU, and with the Mellon Centre for Migration Studies, Ulster-American Folk Park, Omagh, Northern Ireland. The covering letter that accompanied those discs gave permission to make further copies of the discs. The archive of the Irish Diaspora List were also picked up by the British Library Web Archive project, as were various versions of my own web sites. As we all know, the people now associated with the day to day management of the Ir-D list - Bill Mulligan (Murray State University, USA) and Anthony McNichols (University of Westminister, UK) - have now indicated that they feel that it is time to bring the Ir-D list to an end. And we have all had that discussion. We would like to wrap things up in an orderly way, and insure that the archive is safe. We have that in hand, and have negotiated a procedure with Jiscmail. It seems to us that any member of the Irish Diaspora List who wants to have a copy of the archives should have one, and we will create a procedure for doing that. Further message to follow... Not quite twenty years, 1997-2017. All the archives preserved. We have not done too badly... Paddy O'Sullivan Patrick O'Sullivan Visiting Scholar, Glucksman Ireland House, New York University http://irelandhouse.fas.nyu.edu/page/faculty Patrick O'Sullivan's Whole Life Blog http://www.fiddlersdog.com/ Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.irishdiaspora.net Song http://www.songlyric.co.uk Archive https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ooj5btdttc9y4/Documents Back Up Email Patrick O'Sullivan Personal Fax 0044 (0) 709 236 9050 | |
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13443 | 19 July 2017 14:34 |
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:34:10 +0000
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Re: A Valediction, Forbidding Mourning | |
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From: "Miller, Kerby A." Subject: Re: A Valediction, Forbidding Mourning In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: {decoded}Well done, indeed! Thanks, Kerby On 7/19/17, 5:10 AM, "The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Patrick O'Sullivan" wrote: So let us melt, and make no noise, No tear-floods, nor sigh-tempests move; 'Twere profanation of our joys To tell the laity our love. From Patrick O'Sullivan First of all, let me wholeheartedly thank Bill Mulligan for his support and friendship over the decades - and especially, on your behalf, for his support of the Irish Diaspora List. I think it is in all our experience of trying to develop Irish Diaspora Studies that there are people who just get it - and, from the very beginning, Bill Mulligan got it. Bill and I have not actually met all that often. In 2009 he did manage to visit me, here in Yorkshire, and enjoyed a little voyage on my narrowboat - see the Ir-D message dated 05/04/2009, Bill et Paddy vont en bateau. (And, of course, it was only Patrick Maume who grasped that cultural reference...) I don't think I ever reported that, on that voyage, Bill behaved with his usual calm when the throttle cable snapped... Pause for meditation. Yes, the throttle cable snapped. I also thank Anthony McNichols, for his continuing quiet support in the background. One feature of the Irish Diaspora List is that it is self-referencing - that is, whenever an important change is made there is a message that records that change, on the list, and in its archives. So, let me continue that practice. Background I founded our email discussion forum, the Irish Diaspora List, in November 1997 - when I had an academic base at the University of Bradford. In 2004 I moved the Irish Diaspora list to Jiscmail, the UK's academic Listserv. I did manage to preserve the archives of the Irish Diaspora list, from the very beginning. Through many vicissitudes. In 2011, we were able - with the help of the technicians at Jiscmail - to integrate the various incarnations of the Irish Diaspora List within Jiscmail. So that the entire archive, from 1997 to the present, is there within Jiscmail. If you log into Ir-D at Jiscmail you can see the archives there, right back to 1997. In May 2012 I withdrew from the day to day management of the Irish Diaspora List. I do have to say that, for me, this was the right decision. Simply put, I have reached an age and a stage where I should take better care of myself - and that means rationing the amount of time I spend at keyboards and computers. And maybe, given that I am supposed to be a working writer, give more time to just working at writing... In 2013 I stored away the archives of the Irish Diaspora List, as things stood at that point. This material, sixteen years of archives of the Irish Diaspora List, 1997-2013, is now stored on two computer discs. Copies of these discs have been lodged with the Glucksman Ireland House, NYU, and with the Mellon Centre for Migration Studies, Ulster-American Folk Park, Omagh, Northern Ireland. The covering letter that accompanied those discs gave permission to make further copies of the discs. The archive of the Irish Diaspora List were also picked up by the British Library Web Archive project, as were various versions of my own web sites. As we all know, the people now associated with the day to day management of the Ir-D list - Bill Mulligan (Murray State University, USA) and Anthony McNichols (University of Westminister, UK) - have now indicated that they feel that it is time to bring the Ir-D list to an end. And we have all had that discussion. We would like to wrap things up in an orderly way, and insure that the archive is safe. We have that in hand, and have negotiated a procedure with Jiscmail. It seems to us that any member of the Irish Diaspora List who wants to have a copy of the archives should have one, and we will create a procedure for doing that. Further message to follow... Not quite twenty years, 1997-2017. All the archives preserved. We have not done too badly... Paddy O'Sullivan Patrick O'Sullivan Visiting Scholar, Glucksman Ireland House, New York University http://irelandhouse.fas.nyu.edu/page/faculty Patrick O'Sullivan's Whole Life Blog http://www.fiddlersdog.com/ Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.irishdiaspora.net Song http://www.songlyric.co.uk Archive https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ooj5btdttc9y4/Documents Back Up Email Patrick O'Sullivan Personal Fax 0044 (0) 709 236 9050 | |
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13444 | 20 July 2017 00:03 |
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 23:03:21 -0400
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Re: A Valediction, Forbidding Mourning | |
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From: "maureen e. Mulvihill" Subject: Re: A Valediction, Forbidding Mourning In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID: Paddy, you've done perfectly well, all around. And you framed a most useful message to list subscribers wishing access to the archives. All best with your endeavors, and with happy memories of you at Ireland House, NYC, MEM ____ On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Miller, Kerby A. wrote: > Well done, indeed! > Thanks, > Kerby > > On 7/19/17, 5:10 AM, "The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Patrick > O'Sullivan" request[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK> wrote: > > So let us melt, and make no noise, > No tear-floods, nor sigh-tempests move; > 'Twere profanation of our joys > To tell the laity our love. > > From Patrick O'Sullivan > > First of all, let me wholeheartedly thank Bill Mulligan for his > support and > friendship over the decades - and especially, on your behalf, for his > support of the Irish Diaspora List. I think it is in all our > experience of > trying to develop Irish Diaspora Studies that there are people who > just get > it - and, from the very beginning, Bill Mulligan got it. > > Bill and I have not actually met all that often. In 2009 he did > manage to > visit me, here in Yorkshire, and enjoyed a little voyage on my > narrowboat - > see the Ir-D message dated 05/04/2009, Bill et Paddy vont en bateau. > > (And, of course, it was only Patrick Maume who grasped that cultural > reference...) > > I don't think I ever reported that, on that voyage, Bill behaved with > his > usual calm when the throttle cable snapped... > > Pause for meditation. Yes, the throttle cable snapped. > > I also thank Anthony McNichols, for his continuing quiet support in the > background. > > One feature of the Irish Diaspora List is that it is self-referencing > - that > is, whenever an important change is made there is a message that > records > that change, on the list, and in its archives. So, let me continue > that > practice. > > Background > I founded our email discussion forum, the Irish Diaspora List, in > November > 1997 - when I had an academic base at the University of Bradford. In > 2004 I > moved the Irish Diaspora list to Jiscmail, the UK's academic Listserv. > > I did manage to preserve the archives of the Irish Diaspora list, from > the > very beginning. Through many vicissitudes. > > In 2011, we were able - with the help of the technicians at Jiscmail - > to > integrate the various incarnations of the Irish Diaspora List within > Jiscmail. So that the entire archive, from 1997 to the present, is > there > within Jiscmail. If you log into Ir-D at Jiscmail you can see the > archives > there, right back to 1997. > > In May 2012 I withdrew from the day to day management of the Irish > Diaspora > List. > > I do have to say that, for me, this was the right decision. Simply > put, I > have reached an age and a stage where I should take better care of > myself - > and that means rationing the amount of time I spend at keyboards and > computers. And maybe, given that I am supposed to be a working > writer, give > more time to just working at writing... > > In 2013 I stored away the archives of the Irish Diaspora List, as > things > stood at that point. This material, sixteen years of archives of the > Irish > Diaspora List, 1997-2013, is now stored on two computer discs. Copies > of > these discs have been lodged with the Glucksman Ireland House, NYU, > and with > the Mellon Centre for Migration Studies, Ulster-American Folk Park, > Omagh, > Northern Ireland. The covering letter that accompanied those discs > gave > permission to make further copies of the discs. The archive of the > Irish > Diaspora List were also picked up by the British Library Web Archive > project, as were various versions of my own web sites. > > As we all know, the people now associated with the day to day > management of > the Ir-D list - Bill Mulligan (Murray State University, USA) and > Anthony > McNichols (University of Westminister, UK) - have now indicated that > they > feel that it is time to bring the Ir-D list to an end. And we have > all had > that discussion. > > We would like to wrap things up in an orderly way, and insure that the > archive is safe. > > We have that in hand, and have negotiated a procedure with Jiscmail. > It > seems to us that any member of the Irish Diaspora List who wants to > have a > copy of the archives should have one, and we will create a procedure > for > doing that. Further message to follow... > > Not quite twenty years, 1997-2017. All the archives preserved. We > have not > done too badly... > > Paddy O'Sullivan > > Patrick O'Sullivan > Visiting Scholar, Glucksman Ireland House, New York University > http://irelandhouse.fas.nyu.edu/page/faculty > Patrick O'Sullivan's Whole Life Blog http://www.fiddlersdog.com/ Irish > Diaspora Studies http://www.irishdiaspora.net Song > http://www.songlyric.co.uk Archive > https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ooj5btdttc9y4/Documents > Back Up Email Patrick O'Sullivan Personal Fax > 0044 (0) > 709 236 9050 > > > > > | |
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13445 | 20 July 2017 12:16 |
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 11:16:28 +0100
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Re: A Valediction, Forbidding Mourning | |
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From: John McGurk Subject: Re: A Valediction, Forbidding Mourning In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: My many thanks too to Paddy and all concerned with the I D list ; I will miss it too even though I hardly count as Disapora in this Glen in Tourmakeady and still here! John McGurk -----Original Message----- From: Miller, Kerby A. Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 2:34 PM To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [IR-D] A Valediction, Forbidding Mourning Well done, indeed! Thanks, Kerby On 7/19/17, 5:10 AM, "The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Patrick O'Sullivan" wrote: So let us melt, and make no noise, No tear-floods, nor sigh-tempests move; 'Twere profanation of our joys To tell the laity our love. From Patrick O'Sullivan First of all, let me wholeheartedly thank Bill Mulligan for his support and friendship over the decades - and especially, on your behalf, for his support of the Irish Diaspora List. I think it is in all our experience of trying to develop Irish Diaspora Studies that there are people who just get it - and, from the very beginning, Bill Mulligan got it. Bill and I have not actually met all that often. In 2009 he did manage to visit me, here in Yorkshire, and enjoyed a little voyage on my narrowboat - see the Ir-D message dated 05/04/2009, Bill et Paddy vont en bateau. (And, of course, it was only Patrick Maume who grasped that cultural reference...) I don't think I ever reported that, on that voyage, Bill behaved with his usual calm when the throttle cable snapped... Pause for meditation. Yes, the throttle cable snapped. I also thank Anthony McNichols, for his continuing quiet support in the background. One feature of the Irish Diaspora List is that it is self-referencing - that is, whenever an important change is made there is a message that records that change, on the list, and in its archives. So, let me continue that practice. Background I founded our email discussion forum, the Irish Diaspora List, in November 1997 - when I had an academic base at the University of Bradford. In 2004 I moved the Irish Diaspora list to Jiscmail, the UK's academic Listserv. I did manage to preserve the archives of the Irish Diaspora list, from the very beginning. Through many vicissitudes. In 2011, we were able - with the help of the technicians at Jiscmail - to integrate the various incarnations of the Irish Diaspora List within Jiscmail. So that the entire archive, from 1997 to the present, is there within Jiscmail. If you log into Ir-D at Jiscmail you can see the archives there, right back to 1997. In May 2012 I withdrew from the day to day management of the Irish Diaspora List. I do have to say that, for me, this was the right decision. Simply put, I have reached an age and a stage where I should take better care of myself - and that means rationing the amount of time I spend at keyboards and computers. And maybe, given that I am supposed to be a working writer, give more time to just working at writing... In 2013 I stored away the archives of the Irish Diaspora List, as things stood at that point. This material, sixteen years of archives of the Irish Diaspora List, 1997-2013, is now stored on two computer discs. Copies of these discs have been lodged with the Glucksman Ireland House, NYU, and with the Mellon Centre for Migration Studies, Ulster-American Folk Park, Omagh, Northern Ireland. The covering letter that accompanied those discs gave permission to make further copies of the discs. The archive of the Irish Diaspora List were also picked up by the British Library Web Archive project, as were various versions of my own web sites. As we all know, the people now associated with the day to day management of the Ir-D list - Bill Mulligan (Murray State University, USA) and Anthony McNichols (University of Westminister, UK) - have now indicated that they feel that it is time to bring the Ir-D list to an end. And we have all had that discussion. We would like to wrap things up in an orderly way, and insure that the archive is safe. We have that in hand, and have negotiated a procedure with Jiscmail. It seems to us that any member of the Irish Diaspora List who wants to have a copy of the archives should have one, and we will create a procedure for doing that. Further message to follow... Not quite twenty years, 1997-2017. All the archives preserved. We have not done too badly... Paddy O'Sullivan Patrick O'Sullivan Visiting Scholar, Glucksman Ireland House, New York University http://irelandhouse.fas.nyu.edu/page/faculty Patrick O'Sullivan's Whole Life Blog http://www.fiddlersdog.com/ Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.irishdiaspora.net Song http://www.songlyric.co.uk Archive https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ooj5btdttc9y4/Documents Back Up Email Patrick O'Sullivan Personal Fax 0044 (0) 709 236 9050 | |
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13446 | 21 July 2017 08:01 |
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 07:01:08 -0700
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List Closure Update -- July 21 | |
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From: Bill Mulligan Subject: List Closure Update -- July 21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Again, thanks for the many kind words. The decision was not made lightly and the idea of closing the list first came up several years ago when I assumed control. If you look in the list archives you will see how little traffic there has been and how little of it has been discussion. There has been a clear trend. Communication is changing. We, especially Paddy, are working on preserving the list archives in an accessible way because it has been an important part of the growth of the field. My desire was for an organized end or transition to something else and to preserve what we had built. As I indicated I would, I looked into Facebook groups and it seems a viable alternative. We can have a closed group that only permits members to post and should eliminate spam and phishing. Posts can include graphics and other things jiscmail has not supported. I think it can be a good successor platform for continued communication. One must join Facebook, but you do not have to be my Facebook friend. (I checked on that.) I am nearly finished setting up a group -- Irish Diaspora Researchers -- I have to finish the summer meeting of a local historical group of which I am president before I have time to finish it and formally release it. The listserve format was effective for its time and I am quite proud of what IR-D did and what it facilitated. But, technology has moved on. I am sorry I will not be in Dublin due to my teaching schedule. I am sure it will be a great event. Thanks again for your support. Watch this space for more. Bill Mulligan | |
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13447 | 21 July 2017 10:39 |
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:39:41 -0500
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Re: Closure of the List | |
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From: Susan Hickey Subject: Re: Closure of the List In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-ID: I will be there and looking forward to meeting all of you. Yes this has been= something I looked forward to hearing about research. My late husband was a= bout to revise his study on the Cardiff Irish and found the listserv very us= eful. The listserv has inspired me to look into doing the comparative study o= f Chicago and Cardiff Irish communities.=20 I have issues using Facebook both personal and professional (being a clinica= l social worker). Thank you Paddy and Bill for the forum and for all of you allowing me to be p= art of the group! Susan Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:40 AM, Elizabeth Malcolm w= rote: >=20 > Is there an alternative to closure: a way to keep the list operating in a s= imilar or a different way? Are any list members attending next month's Globa= l Diaspora conference at UCD? Might be an opportunity to consider options. >=20 >=20 > Elizabeth >=20 >=20 > ________________________________ > Professor Elizabeth Malcolm, FRHistS, FASSA > Honorary Professorial Fellow > School of Historical and Philosophical Studies > University of Melbourne, VIC. 3010, Australia >=20 > ________________________________ > From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of J= oe Bradley > Sent: Friday, 21 July 2017 11:29:41 PM > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [IR-D] Closure of the List >=20 > I was/am surprised no one did Brenda - just began to think maybe I'm behin= d the times? > Joe >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Beha= lf Of Brenda Murphy > Sent: 21 July 2017 14:20 > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [IR-D] Closure of the List >=20 > None of us have said it Joe, but I suspect we are all thinking it I too wi= sh it wasn't closing. > Brenda >=20 >> On 21 Jul 2017, at 12:22, Joe Bradley wrote: >>=20 >> Everyone has spoken to eloquently, genuinely and accurately regarding the= closure of the list. There is little I can add without repeating the same s= entiments - apart from, 'I wish it wasn't closing'. Best wishes, well done a= nd thanks. >> Joe Bradley >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On >> Behalf Of Bill Mulligan >> Sent: 05 July 2017 01:20 >> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: [IR-D] Closure of the List >>=20 >> With considerable sadness I must inform list members that the list >> will cease operation on July 31, 2017. We will continue to post items >> of interest to Irish Diaspora Studies as well as information on >> accessing the list archives, etc./ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> After consulting my fellow list owner Anthony McNicholas and list founder= Paddy O'Sullivan this seems the reasonable thing to do. List traffic has de= clined dramatically and what traffic we have is largely announcements. It h= as been some time since we had a discussion of any length or spirit. >> Perhaps out high point was the spirited discussion of Richard Jensen's ar= ticle on the lack of discrimination against Irish Americans. More recently t= here was little response to a young (high school) student who published a pi= ece disproving his thesis and his response. Electronic media has evolved and= listserves are no longer new or innovative. I have noticed many groups movi= ng to Facebook pages. I see little real, engaged discussion. >> Technology moves on. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Over the next few weeks I will share some thoughts on what I think we hav= e accomplished and welcome other to share. I value the many people I have me= t through the list , several of whom invited me to stay in their homes befor= e they had actually met me. I will always remember hearing people whisper t= o the person next to them "that's what he looks like" when I gave some openi= ng remarks as a substitute at the Ireland Australia conference some years ag= o in Cork. The list has been a large part of my life and my career but its d= ay is over. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I want to remind everyone of the Diaspora conference at UCD next month. I= am sure it will be brilliant. I had very much been looking forward to it - b= ut we (Murray State) start unusually early this year. I am teaching several= courses that will be heavily first year students and I have learned from ex= perience not being with them for the beginning poses problems and is hard to= overcome. I will be there in spirit. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> To everything there is a season ... >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Bill >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> William H. Mulligan, Jr. , PhD >>=20 >> MSU Alumni Association Distinguish >>=20 >> Professor of History >>=20 >> ed Researcher 2012 >>=20 >> MSU Board of Regents Award for Teaching Excellence, 2005 >>=20 >> Murray State University >>=20 >> Murray KY 42071-3341 USA >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk] >>=20 >> President, Jackson Purchase Historical Society >>=20 >> President, Chapter 302 The Honor Society of Phi Kappa Phi >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University >> Rankings 2016/17 The University of Stirling is a charity registered in >> Scotland, number SC 011159. >=20 > -- > The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University Rank= ings 2016/17 > The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, > number SC 011159. | |
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13448 | 21 July 2017 11:22 |
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:22:23 +0000
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From: Joe Bradley Subject: Re: Closure of the List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Everyone has spoken to eloquently, genuinely and accurately regarding the c= losure of the list. There is little I can add without repeating the same s= entiments - apart from, 'I wish it wasn't closing'. Best wishes, well done= and thanks. Joe Bradley -----Original Message----- From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behal= f Of Bill Mulligan Sent: 05 July 2017 01:20 To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [IR-D] Closure of the List With considerable sadness I must inform list members that the list will cea= se operation on July 31, 2017. We will continue to post items of interest t= o Irish Diaspora Studies as well as information on accessing the list archi= ves, etc./=20=20 =20 After consulting my fellow list owner Anthony McNicholas and list founder P= addy O'Sullivan this seems the reasonable thing to do. List traffic has dec= lined dramatically and what traffic we have is largely announcements. It h= as been some time since we had a discussion of any length or spirit. Perhaps out high point was the spirited discussion of Richard Jensen's arti= cle on the lack of discrimination against Irish Americans. More recently th= ere was little response to a young (high school) student who published a pi= ece disproving his thesis and his response. Electronic media has evolved an= d listserves are no longer new or innovative. I have noticed many groups mo= ving to Facebook pages. I see little real, engaged discussion. Technology moves on.=20 =20 Over the next few weeks I will share some thoughts on what I think we have = accomplished and welcome other to share. I value the many people I have met= through the list , several of whom invited me to stay in their homes befor= e they had actually met me. I will always remember hearing people whisper= to the person next to them "that's what he looks like" when I gave some op= ening remarks as a substitute at the Ireland Australia conference some year= s ago in Cork. The list has been a large part of my life and my career but = its day is over. =20 I want to remind everyone of the Diaspora conference at UCD next month. I a= m sure it will be brilliant. I had very much been looking forward to it - b= ut we (Murray State) start unusually early this year. I am teaching severa= l courses that will be heavily first year students and I have learned from = experience not being with them for the beginning poses problems and is hard= to overcome. I will be there in spirit. =20 To everything there is a season ... =20 Bill =20 William H. Mulligan, Jr. , PhD MSU Alumni Association Distinguish=20 Professor of History ed Researcher 2012 MSU Board of Regents Award for Teaching Excellence, 2005 Murray State University=20 Murray KY 42071-3341 USA =20 Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk]=20 President, Jackson Purchase Historical Society President, Chapter 302 The Honor Society of Phi Kappa Phi=20 =20 --=20 The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University Ranki= ngs 2016/17 The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland,=20 number SC 011159. | |
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13449 | 21 July 2017 12:48 |
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 11:48:25 -0400
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From: Carmel McCaffrey Subject: Re: List Closure Update -- July 21 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: What about those of us who do not have, and do not want, a Facebook account? Would there be a way of accessing the list without having to sign up for Facebook? Carmel On 7/21/2017 10:01 AM, Bill Mulligan wrote: > Again, thanks for the many kind words. The decision was not made lightly and the idea of closing the list first came up several years ago when I assumed control. If you look in the list archives you will see how little traffic there has been and how little of it has been discussion. There has been a clear trend. Communication is changing. We, especially Paddy, are working on preserving the list archives in an accessible way because it has been an important part of the growth of the field. My desire was for an organized end or transition to something else and to preserve what we had built. > > As I indicated I would, I looked into Facebook groups and it seems a viable alternative. We can have a closed group that only permits members to post and should eliminate spam and phishing. Posts can include graphics and other things jiscmail has not supported. I think it can be a good successor platform for continued communication. One must join Facebook, but you do not have to be my Facebook friend. (I checked on that.) I am nearly finished setting up a group -- Irish Diaspora Researchers -- I have to finish the summer meeting of a local historical group of which I am president before I have time to finish it and formally release it. > > The listserve format was effective for its time and I am quite proud of what IR-D did and what it facilitated. But, technology has moved on. > > I am sorry I will not be in Dublin due to my teaching schedule. I am sure it will be a great event. > > Thanks again for your support. Watch this space for more. > > Bill Mulligan --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus | |
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13450 | 21 July 2017 14:29 |
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 13:29:41 +0000
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From: Joe Bradley Subject: Re: Closure of the List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: I was/am surprised no one did Brenda - just began to think maybe I'm behind= the times? Joe -----Original Message----- From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behal= f Of Brenda Murphy Sent: 21 July 2017 14:20 To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [IR-D] Closure of the List None of us have said it Joe, but I suspect we are all thinking it I too wis= h it wasn't closing. Brenda > On 21 Jul 2017, at 12:22, Joe Bradley wrote: >=20 > Everyone has spoken to eloquently, genuinely and accurately regarding the= closure of the list. There is little I can add without repeating the same= sentiments - apart from, 'I wish it wasn't closing'. Best wishes, well do= ne and thanks. > Joe Bradley >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On=20 > Behalf Of Bill Mulligan > Sent: 05 July 2017 01:20 > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: [IR-D] Closure of the List >=20 > With considerable sadness I must inform list members that the list=20 > will cease operation on July 31, 2017. We will continue to post items=20 > of interest to Irish Diaspora Studies as well as information on=20 > accessing the list archives, etc./ >=20 >=20 >=20 > After consulting my fellow list owner Anthony McNicholas and list founder= Paddy O'Sullivan this seems the reasonable thing to do. List traffic has d= eclined dramatically and what traffic we have is largely announcements. It= has been some time since we had a discussion of any length or spirit. > Perhaps out high point was the spirited discussion of Richard Jensen's ar= ticle on the lack of discrimination against Irish Americans. More recently = there was little response to a young (high school) student who published a = piece disproving his thesis and his response. Electronic media has evolved = and listserves are no longer new or innovative. I have noticed many groups = moving to Facebook pages. I see little real, engaged discussion. > Technology moves on.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Over the next few weeks I will share some thoughts on what I think we hav= e accomplished and welcome other to share. I value the many people I have m= et through the list , several of whom invited me to stay in their homes bef= ore they had actually met me. I will always remember hearing people whisp= er to the person next to them "that's what he looks like" when I gave some = opening remarks as a substitute at the Ireland Australia conference some ye= ars ago in Cork. The list has been a large part of my life and my career bu= t its day is over. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I want to remind everyone of the Diaspora conference at UCD next month. I= am sure it will be brilliant. I had very much been looking forward to it -= but we (Murray State) start unusually early this year. I am teaching seve= ral courses that will be heavily first year students and I have learned fro= m experience not being with them for the beginning poses problems and is ha= rd to overcome. I will be there in spirit. >=20 >=20 >=20 > To everything there is a season ... >=20 >=20 >=20 > Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 > William H. Mulligan, Jr. , PhD >=20 > MSU Alumni Association Distinguish >=20 > Professor of History >=20 > ed Researcher 2012 >=20 > MSU Board of Regents Award for Teaching Excellence, 2005 >=20 > Murray State University >=20 > Murray KY 42071-3341 USA >=20 >=20 >=20 > Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk] >=20 > President, Jackson Purchase Historical Society >=20 > President, Chapter 302 The Honor Society of Phi Kappa Phi >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University=20 > Rankings 2016/17 The University of Stirling is a charity registered in=20 > Scotland, number SC 011159. --=20 The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University Ranki= ngs 2016/17 The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland,=20 number SC 011159. | |
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13451 | 21 July 2017 14:40 |
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 13:40:29 +0000
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From: Elizabeth Malcolm Subject: Re: Closure of the List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: Is there an alternative to closure: a way to keep the list operating in a s= imilar or a different way? Are any list members attending next month's Glob= al Diaspora conference at UCD? Might be an opportunity to consider options. Elizabeth ________________________________ Professor Elizabeth Malcolm, FRHistS, FASSA Honorary Professorial Fellow School of Historical and Philosophical Studies University of Melbourne, VIC. 3010, Australia ________________________________ From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Jo= e Bradley Sent: Friday, 21 July 2017 11:29:41 PM To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [IR-D] Closure of the List I was/am surprised no one did Brenda - just began to think maybe I'm behind= the times? Joe -----Original Message----- From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behal= f Of Brenda Murphy Sent: 21 July 2017 14:20 To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [IR-D] Closure of the List None of us have said it Joe, but I suspect we are all thinking it I too wis= h it wasn't closing. Brenda > On 21 Jul 2017, at 12:22, Joe Bradley wrote: > > Everyone has spoken to eloquently, genuinely and accurately regarding the= closure of the list. There is little I can add without repeating the same= sentiments - apart from, 'I wish it wasn't closing'. Best wishes, well do= ne and thanks. > Joe Bradley > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On > Behalf Of Bill Mulligan > Sent: 05 July 2017 01:20 > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: [IR-D] Closure of the List > > With considerable sadness I must inform list members that the list > will cease operation on July 31, 2017. We will continue to post items > of interest to Irish Diaspora Studies as well as information on > accessing the list archives, etc./ > > > > After consulting my fellow list owner Anthony McNicholas and list founder= Paddy O'Sullivan this seems the reasonable thing to do. List traffic has d= eclined dramatically and what traffic we have is largely announcements. It= has been some time since we had a discussion of any length or spirit. > Perhaps out high point was the spirited discussion of Richard Jensen's ar= ticle on the lack of discrimination against Irish Americans. More recently = there was little response to a young (high school) student who published a = piece disproving his thesis and his response. Electronic media has evolved = and listserves are no longer new or innovative. I have noticed many groups = moving to Facebook pages. I see little real, engaged discussion. > Technology moves on. > > > > Over the next few weeks I will share some thoughts on what I think we hav= e accomplished and welcome other to share. I value the many people I have m= et through the list , several of whom invited me to stay in their homes bef= ore they had actually met me. I will always remember hearing people whisp= er to the person next to them "that's what he looks like" when I gave some = opening remarks as a substitute at the Ireland Australia conference some ye= ars ago in Cork. The list has been a large part of my life and my career bu= t its day is over. > > > > I want to remind everyone of the Diaspora conference at UCD next month. I= am sure it will be brilliant. I had very much been looking forward to it -= but we (Murray State) start unusually early this year. I am teaching seve= ral courses that will be heavily first year students and I have learned fro= m experience not being with them for the beginning poses problems and is ha= rd to overcome. I will be there in spirit. > > > > To everything there is a season ... > > > > Bill > > > > William H. Mulligan, Jr. , PhD > > MSU Alumni Association Distinguish > > Professor of History > > ed Researcher 2012 > > MSU Board of Regents Award for Teaching Excellence, 2005 > > Murray State University > > Murray KY 42071-3341 USA > > > > Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk] > > President, Jackson Purchase Historical Society > > President, Chapter 302 The Honor Society of Phi Kappa Phi > > > > -- > The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University > Rankings 2016/17 The University of Stirling is a charity registered in > Scotland, number SC 011159. -- The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University Ranki= ngs 2016/17 The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC 011159. | |
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13452 | 21 July 2017 16:20 |
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 15:20:02 +0200
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From: Brenda Murphy Subject: Re: Closure of the List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.1 (3251)) Message-ID: None of us have said it Joe, but I suspect we are all thinking it=20 I too wish it wasn't closing. Brenda > On 21 Jul 2017, at 12:22, Joe Bradley wrote: >=20 > Everyone has spoken to eloquently, genuinely and accurately regarding = the closure of the list. There is little I can add without repeating = the same sentiments - apart from, 'I wish it wasn't closing'. Best = wishes, well done and thanks. > Joe Bradley >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On = Behalf Of Bill Mulligan > Sent: 05 July 2017 01:20 > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: [IR-D] Closure of the List >=20 > With considerable sadness I must inform list members that the list = will cease operation on July 31, 2017. We will continue to post items of = interest to Irish Diaspora Studies as well as information on accessing = the list archives, etc./ =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > After consulting my fellow list owner Anthony McNicholas and list = founder Paddy O'Sullivan this seems the reasonable thing to do. List = traffic has declined dramatically and what traffic we have is largely = announcements. It has been some time since we had a discussion of any = length or spirit. > Perhaps out high point was the spirited discussion of Richard Jensen's = article on the lack of discrimination against Irish Americans. More = recently there was little response to a young (high school) student who = published a piece disproving his thesis and his response. Electronic = media has evolved and listserves are no longer new or innovative. I have = noticed many groups moving to Facebook pages. I see little real, engaged = discussion. > Technology moves on.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Over the next few weeks I will share some thoughts on what I think we = have accomplished and welcome other to share. I value the many people I = have met through the list , several of whom invited me to stay in their = homes before they had actually met me. I will always remember hearing = people whisper to the person next to them "that's what he looks like" = when I gave some opening remarks as a substitute at the Ireland = Australia conference some years ago in Cork. The list has been a large = part of my life and my career but its day is over. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I want to remind everyone of the Diaspora conference at UCD next = month. I am sure it will be brilliant. I had very much been looking = forward to it - but we (Murray State) start unusually early this year. = I am teaching several courses that will be heavily first year students = and I have learned from experience not being with them for the beginning = poses problems and is hard to overcome. I will be there in spirit. >=20 >=20 >=20 > To everything there is a season ... >=20 >=20 >=20 > Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 > William H. Mulligan, Jr. , PhD >=20 > MSU Alumni Association Distinguish=20 >=20 > Professor of History >=20 > ed Researcher 2012 >=20 > MSU Board of Regents Award for Teaching Excellence, 2005 >=20 > Murray State University=20 >=20 > Murray KY 42071-3341 USA >=20 >=20 >=20 > Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk]=20 >=20 > President, Jackson Purchase Historical Society >=20 > President, Chapter 302 The Honor Society of Phi Kappa Phi=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University = Rankings 2016/17 > The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland,=20 > number SC 011159. | |
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13453 | 22 July 2017 01:47 |
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 00:47:59 +0000
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From: Dymphna Lonergan Subject: Re: Closure of the List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: I agree with Elizabeth. We could wear some identification at the Congress f= or The Irish Diaspora Studies and make time to get together during the con= ference. I'll be meeting with Regina on the Monday, so I can make arrangeme= nts to have a roll of white sticky labels at registration. le gach dea ghu=ED Dymphna Dr Dymphna Lonergan Room 282 Humanities Ph: (08) 82012079 editorial team member Tinte=E1n https://tintean.org.au/ ________________________________ From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of El= izabeth Malcolm Sent: 21 July 2017 23:10 To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [IR-D] Closure of the List Is there an alternative to closure: a way to keep the list operating in a s= imilar or a different way? Are any list members attending next month's Glob= al Diaspora conference at UCD? Might be an opportunity to consider options. Elizabeth ________________________________ Professor Elizabeth Malcolm, FRHistS, FASSA Honorary Professorial Fellow School of Historical and Philosophical Studies University of Melbourne, VIC. 3010, Australia ________________________________ From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Jo= e Bradley Sent: Friday, 21 July 2017 11:29:41 PM To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [IR-D] Closure of the List I was/am surprised no one did Brenda - just began to think maybe I'm behind= the times? Joe -----Original Message----- From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behal= f Of Brenda Murphy Sent: 21 July 2017 14:20 To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [IR-D] Closure of the List None of us have said it Joe, but I suspect we are all thinking it I too wis= h it wasn't closing. Brenda > On 21 Jul 2017, at 12:22, Joe Bradley wrote: > > Everyone has spoken to eloquently, genuinely and accurately regarding the= closure of the list. There is little I can add without repeating the same= sentiments - apart from, 'I wish it wasn't closing'. Best wishes, well do= ne and thanks. > Joe Bradley > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On > Behalf Of Bill Mulligan > Sent: 05 July 2017 01:20 > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: [IR-D] Closure of the List > > With considerable sadness I must inform list members that the list > will cease operation on July 31, 2017. We will continue to post items > of interest to Irish Diaspora Studies as well as information on > accessing the list archives, etc./ > > > > After consulting my fellow list owner Anthony McNicholas and list founder= Paddy O'Sullivan this seems the reasonable thing to do. List traffic has d= eclined dramatically and what traffic we have is largely announcements. It= has been some time since we had a discussion of any length or spirit. > Perhaps out high point was the spirited discussion of Richard Jensen's ar= ticle on the lack of discrimination against Irish Americans. More recently = there was little response to a young (high school) student who published a = piece disproving his thesis and his response. Electronic media has evolved = and listserves are no longer new or innovative. I have noticed many groups = moving to Facebook pages. I see little real, engaged discussion. > Technology moves on. > > > > Over the next few weeks I will share some thoughts on what I think we hav= e accomplished and welcome other to share. I value the many people I have m= et through the list , several of whom invited me to stay in their homes bef= ore they had actually met me. I will always remember hearing people whisp= er to the person next to them "that's what he looks like" when I gave some = opening remarks as a substitute at the Ireland Australia conference some ye= ars ago in Cork. The list has been a large part of my life and my career bu= t its day is over. > > > > I want to remind everyone of the Diaspora conference at UCD next month. I= am sure it will be brilliant. I had very much been looking forward to it -= but we (Murray State) start unusually early this year. I am teaching seve= ral courses that will be heavily first year students and I have learned fro= m experience not being with them for the beginning poses problems and is ha= rd to overcome. I will be there in spirit. > > > > To everything there is a season ... > > > > Bill > > > > William H. Mulligan, Jr. , PhD > > MSU Alumni Association Distinguish > > Professor of History > > ed Researcher 2012 > > MSU Board of Regents Award for Teaching Excellence, 2005 > > Murray State University > > Murray KY 42071-3341 USA > > > > Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk] > > President, Jackson Purchase Historical Society > > President, Chapter 302 The Honor Society of Phi Kappa Phi > > > > -- > The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University > Rankings 2016/17 The University of Stirling is a charity registered in > Scotland, number SC 011159. -- The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University Ranki= ngs 2016/17 The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC 011159. | |
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13454 | 22 July 2017 12:29 |
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 11:29:59 +0930
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From: Fidelma Breen Subject: Re: Closure of the List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-ID: Hi all, New to the list but sad to see it go as it was a very useful resource. A clo= sed group on Facebook could be an alternative given Susan's concerns. Twitte= r is also an option since, in my experience, most academics use it in a prof= essional rather than personal capacity. Being an open forum, it may also att= ract new scholars. The downside, possible spam etcetera, is not as big an is= sue on Twitter as it is on Facebook. A little star struck at some of the names here, I am looking forward to meet= ing some of you in Dublin. Kind regards,=20 Fidelma Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Jul 2017, at 12:09 am, Susan Hickey wrote: >=20 > I will be there and looking forward to meeting all of you. Yes this has be= en something I looked forward to hearing about research. My late husband was= about to revise his study on the Cardiff Irish and found the listserv very u= seful. The listserv has inspired me to look into doing the comparative study= of Chicago and Cardiff Irish communities.=20 > I have issues using Facebook both personal and professional (being a clini= cal social worker). > Thank you Paddy and Bill for the forum and for all of you allowing me to b= e part of the group! > Susan >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 >> On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:40 AM, Elizabeth Malcolm = wrote: >>=20 >> Is there an alternative to closure: a way to keep the list operating in a= similar or a different way? Are any list members attending next month's Glo= bal Diaspora conference at UCD? Might be an opportunity to consider options.= >>=20 >>=20 >> Elizabeth >>=20 >>=20 >> ________________________________ >> Professor Elizabeth Malcolm, FRHistS, FASSA >> Honorary Professorial Fellow >> School of Historical and Philosophical Studies >> University of Melbourne, VIC. 3010, Australia >>=20 >> ________________________________ >> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of J= oe Bradley >> Sent: Friday, 21 July 2017 11:29:41 PM >> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: [IR-D] Closure of the List >>=20 >> I was/am surprised no one did Brenda - just began to think maybe I'm behi= nd the times? >> Joe >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Beh= alf Of Brenda Murphy >> Sent: 21 July 2017 14:20 >> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: [IR-D] Closure of the List >>=20 >> None of us have said it Joe, but I suspect we are all thinking it I too w= ish it wasn't closing. >> Brenda >>=20 >>> On 21 Jul 2017, at 12:22, Joe Bradley wrote: >>>=20 >>> Everyone has spoken to eloquently, genuinely and accurately regarding th= e closure of the list. There is little I can add without repeating the same= sentiments - apart from, 'I wish it wasn't closing'. Best wishes, well don= e and thanks. >>> Joe Bradley >>>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On >>> Behalf Of Bill Mulligan >>> Sent: 05 July 2017 01:20 >>> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK >>> Subject: [IR-D] Closure of the List >>>=20 >>> With considerable sadness I must inform list members that the list >>> will cease operation on July 31, 2017. We will continue to post items >>> of interest to Irish Diaspora Studies as well as information on >>> accessing the list archives, etc./ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> After consulting my fellow list owner Anthony McNicholas and list founde= r Paddy O'Sullivan this seems the reasonable thing to do. List traffic has d= eclined dramatically and what traffic we have is largely announcements. It h= as been some time since we had a discussion of any length or spirit. >>> Perhaps out high point was the spirited discussion of Richard Jensen's a= rticle on the lack of discrimination against Irish Americans. More recently t= here was little response to a young (high school) student who published a pi= ece disproving his thesis and his response. Electronic media has evolved and= listserves are no longer new or innovative. I have noticed many groups movi= ng to Facebook pages. I see little real, engaged discussion. >>> Technology moves on. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Over the next few weeks I will share some thoughts on what I think we ha= ve accomplished and welcome other to share. I value the many people I have m= et through the list , several of whom invited me to stay in their homes befo= re they had actually met me. I will always remember hearing people whisper= to the person next to them "that's what he looks like" when I gave some ope= ning remarks as a substitute at the Ireland Australia conference some years a= go in Cork. The list has been a large part of my life and my career but its d= ay is over. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I want to remind everyone of the Diaspora conference at UCD next month. I= am sure it will be brilliant. I had very much been looking forward to it - b= ut we (Murray State) start unusually early this year. I am teaching several= courses that will be heavily first year students and I have learned from ex= perience not being with them for the beginning poses problems and is hard to= overcome. I will be there in spirit. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> To everything there is a season ... >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Bill >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> William H. Mulligan, Jr. , PhD >>>=20 >>> MSU Alumni Association Distinguish >>>=20 >>> Professor of History >>>=20 >>> ed Researcher 2012 >>>=20 >>> MSU Board of Regents Award for Teaching Excellence, 2005 >>>=20 >>> Murray State University >>>=20 >>> Murray KY 42071-3341 USA >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk] >>>=20 >>> President, Jackson Purchase Historical Society >>>=20 >>> President, Chapter 302 The Honor Society of Phi Kappa Phi >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University >>> Rankings 2016/17 The University of Stirling is a charity registered in >>> Scotland, number SC 011159. >>=20 >> -- >> The University achieved an overall 5 stars in the QS World University Ran= kings 2016/17 >> The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, >> number SC 011159. | |
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13455 | 22 July 2017 14:14 |
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 13:14:35 +0930
Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List <IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
[IR-DLOG1707.txt] | |
Re: List Closure Update -- July 21 | |
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From: Fidelma Breen Subject: Re: List Closure Update -- July 21 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-ID: Hi Carmel, yes and no. You do still need a Facebook account but can set it t= o the highest security settings meaning only you can see it. Rather than usi= ng the Facebook mobile app, you can download the Groups app through which yo= u can access only the groups you are a member of. Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Jul 2017, at 1:18 am, Carmel McCaffrey wrote: >=20 > What about those of us who do not have, and do not want, a Facebook accoun= t? >=20 > Would there be a way of accessing the list without having to sign up for Fa= cebook? >=20 > Carmel >=20 >> On 7/21/2017 10:01 AM, Bill Mulligan wrote: >> Again, thanks for the many kind words. The decision was not made lightly a= nd the idea of closing the list first came up several years ago when I assum= ed control. If you look in the list archives you will see how little traffic= there has been and how little of it has been discussion. There has been a c= lear trend. Communication is changing. We, especially Paddy, are working on p= reserving the list archives in an accessible way because it has been an impo= rtant part of the growth of the field. My desire was for an organized end or= transition to something else and to preserve what we had built. >>=20 >> As I indicated I would, I looked into Facebook groups and it seems a viab= le alternative. We can have a closed group that only permits members to post= and should eliminate spam and phishing. Posts can include graphics and othe= r things jiscmail has not supported. I think it can be a good successor plat= form for continued communication. One must join Facebook, but you do not hav= e to be my Facebook friend. (I checked on that.) I am nearly finished settin= g up a group -- Irish Diaspora Researchers -- I have to finish the summer me= eting of a local historical group of which I am president before I have time= to finish it and formally release it. >>=20 >> The listserve format was effective for its time and I am quite proud of w= hat IR-D did and what it facilitated. But, technology has moved on. >>=20 >> I am sorry I will not be in Dublin due to my teaching schedule. I am sure= it will be a great event. >>=20 >> Thanks again for your support. Watch this space for more. >>=20 >> Bill Mulligan >=20 >=20 > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus | |
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13456 | 22 July 2017 19:52 |
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:52:14 -0300
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[IR-DLOG1707.txt] | |
Re: Closure of the List | |
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From: Guillermo Macloughlin Subject: Re: Closure of the List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: Sending again De: Guillermo MacLoughlin [mailto:gmacloughlin[at]ciudad.com.ar] Enviado el: s=C3=A1bado, 22 de julio de 2017 12:44 Para: The Irish Diaspora Studies List Asunto: Re: [IR-D] Closure of the List Dear Bill, I cannot add much to all that have been said, but I pay homege to all your = work and also to Anthony McNicholls and, specially, to Patrick Sullivan, fo= r gathering us for such a long period of time. I am sure that the new Facebook group or whatever will be useful. I am also attending the Diaspora Conference next month and will be happy if= we can all meet and have a special gathering as it was suggested. Regards to all Guillermo MacLoughlin Buenos Aires Argentina Dr. Guillermo MacLoughlin MacLOUGHLIN & ASOCIADOS Socio Director macloughlinyasoc.com.ar --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr=C3=B3nico en= busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus | |
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13457 | 5 August 2017 16:39 |
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 15:39:35 +0000
Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List <IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
[IR-DLOG1708.txt] | |
Re: List Closure Update -- July 21 | |
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From: "Stewart, Bruce" Subject: Re: List Closure Update -- July 21 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: Bill - I have just re-accessed my Ulster U account after a lapse of several years = since I left the university. I met the news of the passing of the List some= time ago and felt much sorrow at it - largely because it was such a fabulo= us source of information, stimulus and amusement for so long. But I do beli= eve that things pass - especially technologies - and the e-list has been la= rgely trumped by Facebook and other bloggish things. But I equally feel an = enormous sense of gratitude and admiration to you for sustaining the list s= o long and I would not for the world quarrel with your intention to close i= t. I am retired now - but, hey, I am actually in a new busy teaching career= in Brazil spreading the word about Irish studies .... Best wishes to you and all Diasporians Bruce Bruce Stanley George Stewart ________________________________ From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Fi= delma Breen Sent: 22 July 2017 00:44:35 To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [IR-D] List Closure Update -- July 21 Hi Carmel, yes and no. You do still need a Facebook account but can set it = to the highest security settings meaning only you can see it. Rather than u= sing the Facebook mobile app, you can download the Groups app through which= you can access only the groups you are a member of. Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Jul 2017, at 1:18 am, Carmel McCaffrey wrote: > > What about those of us who do not have, and do not want, a Facebook accou= nt? > > Would there be a way of accessing the list without having to sign up for = Facebook? > > Carmel > >> On 7/21/2017 10:01 AM, Bill Mulligan wrote: >> Again, thanks for the many kind words. The decision was not made lightly= and the idea of closing the list first came up several years ago when I as= sumed control. If you look in the list archives you will see how little tra= ffic there has been and how little of it has been discussion. There has bee= n a clear trend. Communication is changing. We, especially Paddy, are worki= ng on preserving the list archives in an accessible way because it has been= an important part of the growth of the field. My desire was for an organiz= ed end or transition to something else and to preserve what we had built. >> >> As I indicated I would, I looked into Facebook groups and it seems a via= ble alternative. We can have a closed group that only permits members to po= st and should eliminate spam and phishing. Posts can include graphics and o= ther things jiscmail has not supported. I think it can be a good successor = platform for continued communication. One must join Facebook, but you do no= t have to be my Facebook friend. (I checked on that.) I am nearly finished = setting up a group -- Irish Diaspora Researchers -- I have to finish the su= mmer meeting of a local historical group of which I am president before I h= ave time to finish it and formally release it. >> >> The listserve format was effective for its time and I am quite proud of = what IR-D did and what it facilitated. But, technology has moved on. >> >> I am sorry I will not be in Dublin due to my teaching schedule. I am sur= e it will be a great event. >> >> Thanks again for your support. Watch this space for more. >> >> Bill Mulligan > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the= use of the addressee and may contain information which is covered by legal= , professional or other privilege. If you have received this email in error= please notify the system manager at postmaster[at]ulster.ac.uk and delete thi= s email immediately. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of th= e author and do not necessarily represent those of Ulster University. The University's computer systems may be monitored and communications carri= ed out on them may be recorded to secure the effective operation of the sys= tem and for other lawful purposes. Ulster University does not guarantee tha= t this email or any attachments are free from viruses or 100% secure. Unles= s expressly stated in the body of a separate attachment, the text of email = is not intended to form a binding contract. Correspondence to and from the = University may be subject to requests for disclosure by 3rd parties under r= elevant legislation. The Ulster University was founded by Royal Charter in 1984 and is registere= d with company number RC000726 and VAT registered number GB672390524.The pr= imary contact address for Ulster University in Northern Ireland is Cromore = Road, Coleraine, Co. Londonderry BT52 1SA | |
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13458 | 5 August 2017 17:00 |
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 16:00:13 -0500
Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List <IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
[IR-DLOG1708.txt] | |
List Wrap Up | |
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From: Bill Mulligan Subject: List Wrap Up MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Colleagues and Friends, As you have seen wrapping things up has take a bit longer than I anticipated. Paddy, Anthony, and I wanted to insure the preservation of the list archives. Paddy has been working on that with Steven Sobol, a computer scientist who helped set it up. Paddy can send a copy of the list to anyone who would like a copy. Contact him at: pad[at]osull.com He will also be at the Diaspora Conference in Dublin. Paddy and Steve are working on other ways to make the archive accessible. IR-D has played an important role in the development of the field. I am not able to attend the Dublin conference because of my teaching schedule and also my back has not fully recovered from a fall I took. That has slowed things too. I have proposed August 12 as the terminal date. We will need to confirm that with JISCMAIL. I have set up a Facebook GROUP - only members of the group can post to it, although others can see the posts. This seemed preferable to as page which would only allow designated people to post. I'm involved in both. It should be protected from spam. I am a member of a number and spam has never been an issue. It is possible to have a good, spirited discussion. Society for Military History has them often. Graphics can also be accommodated. It is the next stage of technology for this type of communication at least for now it seems to me. We were probably slow to migrate. It is possible to invite people using their email address but I am not going to do that because some people expressed concerns about Facebook security. This will insulate them from any involvement. If you want to be invited personally -- send me an email at billmulligan[at]murray-ky.net otherwise find it through search on Facebook and ask to join. The group is Irish Diaspora Researchers and you should be able to find it through the search mechanism on Facebook using its name. The URL is https://www.facebook.com/groups/329004490890223/ No one will be signed up who does not request it. As this develops we can add additional administrators. As I said I am a member of a number of groups and they work well. There is a message in the queue about a Twitter group from Brian McGovern - our community will survive and flourish I am sure in new homes. I may post again if there are further developments and will still share messages. This may, however, be my last post here. Many of you took time to write very nice messages of support and I want to thank everyone who did so. I have enjoyed moderating the list and will always consider it a contribution. I am glad I got to know so many of you if not personally at least virtually. The community the list helped to create and nurture continues. It is moving to newer technologies and means of communication. The spirit of sharing and common enterprise that was its soul will endure. This is not good bye - those who will be in Dublin enjoy the conference. I look forward to seeing all of you on line or at a conference in the future. You are all welcome in Murray. Bill William H. Mulligan, Jr., PhD Professor of History MSU Alumni Association Distinguished Researcher, 2012 MSU Board of Regents Award for Teaching Excellence, 2005 Murray State University Murray KY 42071-3341 USA Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk] President, Jackson Purchase Historical Society President, Chapter 302 The Honor Society of Phi Kappa Phi | |
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13459 | 5 August 2017 21:07 |
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 20:07:46 +0000
Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List <IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
[IR-DLOG1708.txt] | |
Re: List Closure Update -- July 21 | |
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From: Bryan McGovern Subject: Re: List Closure Update -- July 21 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: Dear all, I have just started an IrishDiaspora list on twitter. If you are a twitter = user and interested in joining, I am [at]bmcgover. Just let me know and I can = add you to the list. ________________________________ From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of St= ewart, Bruce Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 11:39 AM To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [IR-D] List Closure Update -- July 21 Bill - I have just re-accessed my Ulster U account after a lapse of several years = since I left the university. I met the news of the passing of the List some= time ago and felt much sorrow at it - largely because it was such a fabulo= us source of information, stimulus and amusement for so long. But I do beli= eve that things pass - especially technologies - and the e-list has been la= rgely trumped by Facebook and other bloggish things. But I equally feel an = enormous sense of gratitude and admiration to you for sustaining the list s= o long and I would not for the world quarrel with your intention to close i= t. I am retired now - but, hey, I am actually in a new busy teaching career= in Brazil spreading the word about Irish studies .... Best wishes to you and all Diasporians Bruce Bruce Stanley George Stewart ________________________________ From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Fi= delma Breen Sent: 22 July 2017 00:44:35 To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [IR-D] List Closure Update -- July 21 Hi Carmel, yes and no. You do still need a Facebook account but can set it = to the highest security settings meaning only you can see it. Rather than u= sing the Facebook mobile app, you can download the Groups app through which= you can access only the groups you are a member of. Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Jul 2017, at 1:18 am, Carmel McCaffrey wrote: > > What about those of us who do not have, and do not want, a Facebook accou= nt? > > Would there be a way of accessing the list without having to sign up for = Facebook? > > Carmel > >> On 7/21/2017 10:01 AM, Bill Mulligan wrote: >> Again, thanks for the many kind words. The decision was not made lightly= and the idea of closing the list first came up several years ago when I as= sumed control. If you look in the list archives you will see how little tra= ffic there has been and how little of it has been discussion. There has bee= n a clear trend. Communication is changing. We, especially Paddy, are worki= ng on preserving the list archives in an accessible way because it has been= an important part of the growth of the field. My desire was for an organiz= ed end or transition to something else and to preserve what we had built. >> >> As I indicated I would, I looked into Facebook groups and it seems a via= ble alternative. We can have a closed group that only permits members to po= st and should eliminate spam and phishing. Posts can include graphics and o= ther things jiscmail has not supported. I think it can be a good successor = platform for continued communication. One must join Facebook, but you do no= t have to be my Facebook friend. (I checked on that.) I am nearly finished = setting up a group -- Irish Diaspora Researchers -- I have to finish the su= mmer meeting of a local historical group of which I am president before I h= ave time to finish it and formally release it. >> >> The listserve format was effective for its time and I am quite proud of = what IR-D did and what it facilitated. But, technology has moved on. >> >> I am sorry I will not be in Dublin due to my teaching schedule. I am sur= e it will be a great event. >> >> Thanks again for your support. Watch this space for more. >> >> Bill Mulligan > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus Avast | Download Free Antivirus for PC, Mac & Android www.avast.com Protect your devices with the best free antivirus on the market. Download A= vast antivirus and anti-spyware protection for your PC, Mac and Android. This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the= use of the addressee and may contain information which is covered by legal= , professional or other privilege. If you have received this email in error= please notify the system manager at postmaster[at]ulster.ac.uk and delete thi= s email immediately. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of th= e author and do not necessarily represent those of Ulster University. The University's computer systems may be monitored and communications carri= ed out on them may be recorded to secure the effective operation of the sys= tem and for other lawful purposes. Ulster University does not guarantee tha= t this email or any attachments are free from viruses or 100% secure. Unles= s expressly stated in the body of a separate attachment, the text of email = is not intended to form a binding contract. Correspondence to and from the = University may be subject to requests for disclosure by 3rd parties under r= elevant legislation. The Ulster University was founded by Royal Charter in 1984 and is registere= d with company number RC000726 and VAT registered number GB672390524.The pr= imary contact address for Ulster University in Northern Ireland is Cromore = Road, Coleraine, Co. Londonderry BT52 1SA | |
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13460 | 6 August 2017 11:39 |
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 10:39:45 -0500
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[IR-DLOG1708.txt] | |
Re: List Closure Update -- July 21 | |
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From: Susan Hickey Subject: Re: List Closure Update -- July 21 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-ID: Just sent request via twitter Thanks! Susan Hickey=20 Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Bryan McGovern wrote: >=20 > Dear all, >=20 >=20 > I have just started an IrishDiaspora list on twitter. If you are a twitter= user and interested in joining, I am [at]bmcgover. Just let me know and I can a= dd you to the list. >=20 >=20 > ________________________________ > From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of S= tewart, Bruce > Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 11:39 AM > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [IR-D] List Closure Update -- July 21 >=20 > Bill - >=20 >=20 > I have just re-accessed my Ulster U account after a lapse of several years= since I left the university. I met the news of the passing of the List some= time ago and felt much sorrow at it - largely because it was such a fabulou= s source of information, stimulus and amusement for so long. But I do believ= e that things pass - especially technologies - and the e-list has been large= ly trumped by Facebook and other bloggish things. But I equally feel an enor= mous sense of gratitude and admiration to you for sustaining the list so lon= g and I would not for the world quarrel with your intention to close it. I a= m retired now - but, hey, I am actually in a new busy teaching career in Bra= zil spreading the word about Irish studies .... >=20 >=20 > Best wishes to you and all Diasporians >=20 >=20 > Bruce >=20 >=20 > Bruce Stanley George Stewart > ________________________________ > From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Fi= delma Breen > Sent: 22 July 2017 00:44:35 > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [IR-D] List Closure Update -- July 21 >=20 > Hi Carmel, yes and no. You do still need a Facebook account but can set it= to the highest security settings meaning only you can see it. Rather than u= sing the Facebook mobile app, you can download the Groups app through which y= ou can access only the groups you are a member of. >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 >> On 22 Jul 2017, at 1:18 am, Carmel McCaffrey wrote: >>=20 >> What about those of us who do not have, and do not want, a Facebook accou= nt? >>=20 >> Would there be a way of accessing the list without having to sign up for = Facebook? >>=20 >> Carmel >>=20 >>> On 7/21/2017 10:01 AM, Bill Mulligan wrote: >>> Again, thanks for the many kind words. The decision was not made lightly= and the idea of closing the list first came up several years ago when I ass= umed control. If you look in the list archives you will see how little traff= ic there has been and how little of it has been discussion. There has been a= clear trend. Communication is changing. We, especially Paddy, are working o= n preserving the list archives in an accessible way because it has been an i= mportant part of the growth of the field. My desire was for an organized end= or transition to something else and to preserve what we had built. >>>=20 >>> As I indicated I would, I looked into Facebook groups and it seems a via= ble alternative. We can have a closed group that only permits members to pos= t and should eliminate spam and phishing. Posts can include graphics and oth= er things jiscmail has not supported. I think it can be a good successor pla= tform for continued communication. One must join Facebook, but you do not ha= ve to be my Facebook friend. (I checked on that.) I am nearly finished setti= ng up a group -- Irish Diaspora Researchers -- I have to finish the summer m= eeting of a local historical group of which I am president before I have tim= e to finish it and formally release it. >>>=20 >>> The listserve format was effective for its time and I am quite proud of w= hat IR-D did and what it facilitated. But, technology has moved on. >>>=20 >>> I am sorry I will not be in Dublin due to my teaching schedule. I am sur= e it will be a great event. >>>=20 >>> Thanks again for your support. Watch this space for more. >>>=20 >>> Bill Mulligan >>=20 >>=20 >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > Avast | Download Free Antivirus for PC, Mac & Android > www.avast.com > Protect your devices with the best free antivirus on the market. Download A= vast antivirus and anti-spyware protection for your PC, Mac and Android. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for th= e use of the addressee and may contain information which is covered by legal= , professional or other privilege. If you have received this email in error p= lease notify the system manager at postmaster[at]ulster.ac.uk and delete this e= mail immediately. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the au= thor and do not necessarily represent those of Ulster University. > The University's computer systems may be monitored and communications carr= ied out on them may be recorded to secure the effective operation of the sys= tem and for other lawful purposes. Ulster University does not guarantee that= this email or any attachments are free from viruses or 100% secure. Unless e= xpressly stated in the body of a separate attachment, the text of email is n= ot intended to form a binding contract. Correspondence to and from the Unive= rsity may be subject to requests for disclosure by 3rd parties under relevan= t legislation. > The Ulster University was founded by Royal Charter in 1984 and is register= ed with company number RC000726 and VAT registered number GB672390524.The pr= imary contact address for Ulster University in Northern Ireland is Cromore R= oad, Coleraine, Co. Londonderry BT52 1SA | |
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