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18 September 2000 10:06  
  
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:06:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Oxford Brogues 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.cccAB909.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Oxford Brogues 3
  
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Dymphna=20Lonergan?=
Subject: Re: Ir-D Oxford Brogues

In the Glossary of Irish words I compiled from
Anglo-Irish Writing between 1800 and 1989 you can see
a development in the use of bróg 'shoe' from a symbol
of poverty and/or ignorance from 1830-1922 eg Ulysses
1922 'as ignorant as a kish of brogues'to the
seventies and eighties 'highly polished brogues' and
'polished brown brogues', the bróg now symbol of good
old values. I suspect the value of the brogues
increased when Scottish landowners took up deer
hunting or the like, traipsing over moorland the
brogue (worn by the gilly?) being more successful in
keeping out the wet. The increased value inherent in
'brogue' in late twentieth century Anglo-Irish writing
was probably influenced by the British/Oxford usage
rather than a usage within Ireland itself.

Clearly there's a treatise or thesis or book to be had
from the two brogues we have been discussing!

Dymphna Lonergan
The Flinders University of South Australia
Dymphna_1[at]Yahoo.com

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18 September 2000 10:07  
  
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:07:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D The Irishmen - film MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.6bFCBdB908.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D The Irishmen - film
  
Forwarded for information...

P.O'S.

>From: PMCELT[at]cs.com
>Subject: See Irish Democrat Published London since 1939
>THE IRISHMEN
>An Impression of Exile
>
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>by Seamus Ennis
>and
>Phillip Donnellan
>which shares the life of the working Irish in Britain and celebrates their
>strength, skills, and their contribution to the building of this island.
>
>Including songs and music by Joe Heaney and Ewan MacColl
>
>This film, first made in 1965 now represents a social history of work and
>emigration.
>
>· films with a family in Conemara and follows one of its sons on his lonely
>journey to Euston.
>· rides with the men who drive the big earthmovers building a motorway.
>· joins the men at work deep under Oxford Circus driving tunnels that now
>carry thousands on the Victoria line.
>
>£15.00
>from
>Northampton Connolly Association
>5 Woodland Avenue
>Abington Park
>Northampton NN3 2BY
>Tel. 01604-715793
>E-mail: pmcelt[at]cs.com
>
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18 September 2000 10:16  
  
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:16:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Burr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.fB3Af1c7911.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Burr
  
joan hugman
  
From: "joan hugman"
Subject: Re: Ir-D Accent 6

Actually, 'burr' has Northumbrian roots - but given all the cross
migrations of Scots and Irish presumably it can be Scottish too. My
concise Oxford claims that it means 'to speak without clear
articulation'...
Joan Hugman
> Subject: Ir-D Accent 6
> Date: Thu 14 Sep 2000 10:00:00 +0000
> From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
> Reply-to: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
> To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk

>
> From: don.macraild[at]unn.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: Ir-D Accent 4
>
> I wonder, is the Scots 'burr' of the same import as the Irish 'brogue'?
> Burr, if my memory serves me correctly, is the downy bit of a Thistle.
>
> Don MacRaild
> Northumbria!!!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk [SMTP:irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:00 AM
> > To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
> > Subject: Ir-D Accent 4
> >
> >
> > From: "Bruce Stewart"
> > Subject: Re: Ir-D Accent 2
> >
> > That sounds improbable and convoluted, if amusingly turned. More
> > likely, since a 'brog' is a shoe in Irish and Irish shoes in the 17th c.
> > were noted by colonists for their uncouth appearance, the part
> > served for the whole (litotes). An added factor is the comparatively
> > rhotive character of the Irish accent as it strikes the English ear.
> > What is true of Irish is broadly true of Scottish speakers. The
> > modern brogue is a country shoe sported by English gentlemen in
> > emulation of their gillies - from whom, incidentally, they received
> > the useful word 'smashing', orig. as 'is maith sin'. Brogue still
> > seems a reasonable description of the general features of an
> > Hiberno-English accent though, like all such terms, it cannot be
> > freely used in view of stereotypical associations. The challenge for
> > the phonologist is to say in what way ALL Irish speakers differ from
> > ALL English speakers. The sum of that equation is the Brogue.
> > Bruce.
> >
> >
> > Subject: Ir-D Accent 2
> > Date sent: Tue 12 Sep 2000 14:00:00 +0000
> > From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
> > Send reply to: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
> > To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
> >
> >
> > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Dymphna=20Lonergan?=
> > Subject: Re: Ir-D Accent
> >
> >
> > Alex Peach mentioned his mother's 'brogue' which of
> > course is another word for 'accent'. Originally
> > applied to both Scots and Irish it became, I think,
> > exclusively applied to an Irish accent. Does any other
> > ethnic group have a single word that defines its
> > speech patterns? As for the origin of 'brogue' (to
> > digress) I'm now inclined to favour the'speech
> > impediment' definition and I think it may have been
> > the Irish deriding those who spoke English - not for
> > how they spoke it, but that they spoke such an
> > inferior language! eg Biarla 'English' but biarlagair
> > 'slang'
> >
> > Dymphna Lonergan
> > The Flinders University of South Australia
> > Dymphna_1[at]Yahoo.com
> >
> >
>

Joan Hugman
Department of History, Armstrong Building,
University of Newcastle NE1 7RU Tel 0191 222 6701
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18 September 2000 10:17  
  
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:17:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.3cFEEB4906.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI
  
It seems legitimate to help with queries like this, below - in that one more person in the
world will know something about Ireland. Can anyone suggest a book? Does Steve Bruce
count as 'ethnography'?

P.O'S.

From: JH
Reply-To: archcen[at]earthlink.net

Hello!
I am an anthropology student at the University of Missouri-St. Louis
and need help finding a book for an assignment. The only requirement is
that it be an ethnography. I am interested in inter-group relations
between the Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland. I realize
that many ethnographys have been written on Ireland, but my instructors
could think of none concerning the relationship between the Protestants
and Catholics. Professor Charles Orser suggested I send my request for
help through this e-mail address. Any information you may have would be
greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Debra Magruder
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19 September 2000 06:16  
  
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:16:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Research funding advice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.d2eC913.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Research funding advice
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From: Patrick O'Sullivan

Irish-Diaspora list member
Frances Morton, CB, NO, SE"
is a postgraduate student, now searching for funding to continue her PhD on Irish diaspora
and music in Glasgow.

Frances would be able to continue at the University of Durham, but finance is always a
problem. One option
she is considering is to formulate a co-sponsorship research proposal. But all the
possibilities (e.g. Arts Councils, Irish studies institutes etc.) do not seem to fund
postgraduate research.

Frances asks if anyone knows of research centres/ funding bodies who would take on such a
co-sponsorship. It would mean partnering with either the University of Durham, or the
Economic and Social Research Council.

In Frances's favour is the fact that she is a musician, and access to the field of
traditional music in Glasgow, where she lives, is guaranteed. She feels that this is a
major factor contributing to accuracy and quality of material and data collected.

I know it is always difficult, from a distance, to give anything but the vaguest research
funding advice. And of course the patterns of research funding change from country to
country, region to region, and time to time. But Frances would be grateful for any
suggestions. Suggestions can be made either here, to the Ir-D list, or direct to
Frances Morton

Patrick O'Sullivan


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19 September 2000 06:17  
  
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:17:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.e516DF4912.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI
  
Russell Murray
  
From: Russell Murray
Subject: Re: Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI

At 10:17 18/09/00 +0000, you wrote:
>
>It seems legitimate to help with queries like this, below - in that one
more person in the
>world will know something about Ireland. Can anyone suggest a book? Does
Steve Bruce
>count as 'ethnography'?

No! - and anyway Bruce is not relevant here. What she wants is:

Rosemary Harris (1972) "Prejudice and Tolerance in Ireland: a study of
neighbours and 'strangers' in a border community" Manchester: Manchester
University Press

The other sustained ethnographies (as opposed to journalistic accounts) to
come out of Northern Ireland are

Frank Burton (1978) "The Politics of Legitimacy: Struggles in a Belfast
Community" London: Routledge & Kegan Paul

Jeffrey Sluka (1989) Hearts and minds, water and fish: support for the IRA
and INLA in a Northern Irish ghetto" Greenwich, Conn.: AI Press

Both of these are PhD theses about exactly the same topic (why do Catholics
support the IRA), and come to the same conclusion.

Allen Feldman (1991) "Formations of Violence: The narrative of the body and
political terror in Northern Ireland" Chicago: University of Chicago Press
(He does a nice coverage of my own earlier work on 'doorstep murders' on pages
71-72!)

>
>P.O'S.
>
>From: JH
>Reply-To: archcen[at]earthlink.net
>
>Hello!
>I am an anthropology student at the University of Missouri-St. Louis
>and need help finding a book for an assignment. The only requirement is
>that it be an ethnography. I am interested in inter-group relations
>between the Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland. I realize
>that many ethnographys have been written on Ireland, but my instructors
>could think of none concerning the relationship between the Protestants
>and Catholics. Professor Charles Orser suggested I send my request for
>help through this e-mail address. Any information you may have would be
>greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
>
>Sincerely,
>Debra Magruder
>
Dr. Russell Murray
Honorary Visiting Research Fellow
Department of Peace Studies
University of Bradford
United Kingdom
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19 September 2000 10:16  
  
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:16:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Irish in Lille MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.68Eef1914.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Irish in Lille
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From: Patrick O'Sullivan



We have been asked - by Maurice O'Connell, an artist and community lecturer - if anything
is known about the Irish in Lille, in France.

This is all I can think of - does any one know more?

1.
There was, of course, an Irish College in Lille in the eighteenth century.

I have not been able to trace any specific study of the Irish College there.

The Irish College in Lille is famous amongst those who study the history of Irish
language. The main object of the colleges was, of course, to train priests for work in
Ireland - and some emphasis was placed on the study of the Irish language. There was a
controversy in 1764, when a new head was nominated in Lille who could not speak Irish.

References in Moody & Vaughan, eds, A New History of Ireland, Volume IV, The Eighteenth
Century, Oxford, 1986, p 383, p 645.

2.
O'Callaghan, Irish Brigades in the Service of France, 1870 (reprint 1968), p 260-1, has an
account of the 'gallant defence of Lisle', in 1708, involving the Irish.


P.O'S.


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Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit

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Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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19 September 2000 13:16  
  
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:16:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Irish in France MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.31cCFb1915.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Irish in France
  
Enda Delaney
  
From: Enda Delaney
Subject: Re: Ir-D Irish in Lille

Mary Ann Lyons (Marian.Lyons[at]spd.ie) at the Department of
History, St Patrick's College, Drumcondra completed her PhD on
Franco-Irish relations in the sixteenth century and would be the
best person to contact for the earlier period. Eamon O Ciosain,
Department of French, Maynooth, (eamon.ociosain[at]may.ie)is
currently researching the Irish in France in the seventeenth and
eighteenth centuries. Both would be able to provide useful
information and leads. A new volume due to be published by Four
Courts Press this month, The Irish in Europe, 1600-1800, edited
by Thomas O'Connor includes essays by both, and many other
interesting articles.

Enda Delaney
Queen's University Belfast
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19 September 2000 20:16  
  
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:16:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Irish in Lille MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.c165BBFf917.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Irish in Lille
  
Brian McGinn
  
From: "Brian McGinn"
Subject: Re: Ir-D Irish in France


Some other and older sources to check for Lille references:

Liam Swords, The Irish-French Connection, 1578-1978 (The Irish College,
Paris, 1978). "Only students from Leinster, and particularly from Meath,
were welcome at (the Irish College in) Lille". p. 19.

Richard Hayes, Biographical Dictionary of Irishmen in France (Dublin, 1949).
Also serialized in Studies, An Irish Quarterly Review, Vols 31-37. See
entries for Francis Nugent and Christopher Cusack, co-founders of College at
Lille.

J. O'Boyle, The Irish Colleges on the Continent (Dublin, 1935).

Tomas O Fiaich, "The Irish Colleges in France" The Humbert Summer School,
1988.
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19 September 2000 20:26  
  
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:26:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D GROUP ON ETHNIC POLITICS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.b3363916.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D GROUP ON ETHNIC POLITICS
  
Forwarded on behalf of
Karl Cordell at K.Cordell[at]plymouth.ac.uk
Stefan Wolff at S.Wolff[at]bath.ac.uk

RELAUNCH OF SPECIALIST GROUP ON ETHNIC POLITICS OF THE POLITICAL STUDIES
ASSOCIATION OF THE UK

The Specialist Group on Ethnic Politics of the Political Studies
Association of the United Kingdom has been reconvened under the joint
chairmanship of Dr Karl Cordell, University of Plymouth, and Dr Stefan
Wolff, University of Bath.

Building on the successes of the group in the mid 1990s, its re-launch now
after a period of inactivity seeks to foster intellectually stimulating
debates among academics, students and practitioners on all issues related
to research, teaching, and policy-making in the broadly defined field of
ethnic politics.
The primary focus of the groups activities will be the re-emergence of
ethnic/religious nationalism in various regions across the globe. However,
this should not serve either to narrow the focus of work, or to relegate
studies of other areas of interest to secondary status. The group also
encourages the serious academic study of global issues related to ethnic
politics, such as nationalism and nation-building, security studies,
defence studies, political sociology, and territorial politics.
In terms of audience and target membership, the group seeks to appeal to
Political Scientists in academia (including Postgraduates) as well as to
practitioners in our field, who have an interest in this sphere, to
researchers in the field from other disciplines, to research and
educational institutions, to governments, and to governmental and
non-governmental organisations worldwide.
For more information, check the website of the Specialist Group on Ethnic
Politics at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~mlssaw/ethnic_politics/home.htm.
Membership is free and includes subscription to an electronic discussion
list and newsletter. Interested individuals or institutions can join online
at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~mlssaw/ethnic_politics/join.htm or by emailing
Karl Cordell at K.Cordell[at]plymouth.ac.uk or Stefan Wolff at
S.Wolff[at]bath.ac.uk.
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19 September 2000 20:26  
  
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:26:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Research funding advice 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.1FdDA936.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Research funding advice 2
  
Anthony McNicholas
  
From: "Anthony McNicholas"
Subject: RE: Ir-D Research funding advice

I don't know how much use this would be, as she may well have tried this
already, but has Frances applied to departments outside of the Irish studies
field? I am doing my own PhD (on a bursary)on Irish migrant newspaper
history in a Communications department. My own university, Westminster has
people doing research on popular music, and various diaspora topics within
the field of communications. Cultural and Media studies departments are also
very interested in diaspora issues. There are people interested in Irish
issues in all sorts of departments. The head of my Graduate School for
example is a historian of the BBC Paddy Scannell, so you can see what I
mean.

Anthony McNicholas

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
[mailto:owner-irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk]On Behalf Of
irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Sent: 19 September 2000 07:16
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Ir-D Research funding advice



From: Patrick O'Sullivan

Irish-Diaspora list member
Frances Morton, CB, NO, SE"
is a postgraduate student, now searching for funding to continue her PhD on
Irish diaspora
and music in Glasgow.

Frances would be able to continue at the University of Durham, but finance
is always a
problem. One option
she is considering is to formulate a co-sponsorship research proposal. But
all the
possibilities (e.g. Arts Councils, Irish studies institutes etc.) do not
seem to fund
postgraduate research.

Frances asks if anyone knows of research centres/ funding bodies who would
take on such a
co-sponsorship. It would mean partnering with either the University of
Durham, or the
Economic and Social Research Council.

In Frances's favour is the fact that she is a musician, and access to the
field of
traditional music in Glasgow, where she lives, is guaranteed. She feels
that this is a
major factor contributing to accuracy and quality of material and data
collected.

I know it is always difficult, from a distance, to give anything but the
vaguest research
funding advice. And of course the patterns of research funding change from
country to
country, region to region, and time to time. But Frances would be grateful
for any
suggestions. Suggestions can be made either here, to the Ir-D list, or
direct to
Frances Morton

Patrick O'Sullivan
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20 September 2000 06:26  
  
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 06:26:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.6f5f32937.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI 3
  
Cymru66@aol.com
  
From: Cymru66[at]aol.com

I might also suggest Rural Landscapes and Communities. ed. Colin Thomas, 1986,
Irish Academic Press. This is a book of essays published as a tribute to
Desmond McCourt, a former colleague at Coleraine, whose seminal work never
saw a publishers imprint but became the most requested unpublished thesis in
its field in Northern Ireland and elsewhere. The book has a foreword by
E.Estyn Evans, for long the doyen of studies in this field. An excellent
source for a Ph.D. student but perhaps a little strong for an undergraduate.
Best,
John Hickey
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20 September 2000 06:26  
  
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 06:26:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.bC7F939.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI 2
  
Brian Lambkin
  
From: "Brian Lambkin"
Subject: Re: Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI

The classic study is:
Harris, R (1972), Prejudice and Tolerance in Ulster: A Study of Neighbours
and "Strangers" in a Border Community, Manchester University Press

Try also:
Buckley, A.D., (1982), A Gentle People: A Study of a Peaceful Community in
Ulster, Cultra, Ulster Folk and Transport Museum
Bufwack, M.S., (1982), Village Without Violence: An Examination of a
Northern Irish Community, Cambridge, Mass.: Schenkman
Donnan, H. and McFarlane, W.G. (1986), '"You Get On Better With Your Own":
Continuity and Change in Rural Northern Ireland' in Clancy, P, Drury S,
Lynch K and O'Dowd, (eds), Ireland: A Sociological Profile, Institute of
Public Administration and Sociological Association of Ireland

B K Lambkin (Dr)
Director
Centre for Migration Studies
at the Ulster-American Folk Park, Omagh
Northern Ireland BT78 5QY
Tel: +44 (0) 1662 256315
Fax: +44 (0) 1662 242241
www.qub.ac.uk/cms/
www.folkpark.com
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:17 AM
Subject: Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI


>
> It seems legitimate to help with queries like this, below - in that one
more person in the
> world will know something about Ireland. Can anyone suggest a book? Does
Steve Bruce
> count as 'ethnography'?
>
> P.O'S.
>
> From: JH
> Reply-To: archcen[at]earthlink.net
>
> Hello!
> I am an anthropology student at the University of Missouri-St. Louis
> and need help finding a book for an assignment. The only requirement is
> that it be an ethnography. I am interested in inter-group relations
> between the Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland. I realize
> that many ethnographys have been written on Ireland, but my instructors
> could think of none concerning the relationship between the Protestants
> and Catholics. Professor Charles Orser suggested I send my request for
> help through this e-mail address. Any information you may have would be
> greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
>
> Sincerely,
> Debra Magruder
>
>
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20 September 2000 06:27  
  
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 06:27:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.D7741E5938.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI 4
  
Cymru66@aol.com
  
From: Cymru66[at]aol.com
Subject: Re: Ir-D 'Ethnography' of NI

Perhaps I should have mentioned, also, my own book on Northern Ireland which
deals directly with the relationships between Protestants and Roman Catholics
in Northern Ireland. It is probably more accessible in the U.S. than the
other reference I gave. The details are -
Hickey, John Religion and the Northern Ireland Problem. 1984. Gill and
Macmillan Dublin/ Barnes and Noble, New York.
To the best of my knowledge, the book is available in most Universities in
America and can be obtained relatively easily through inter-library loan.
The research project on which the book was based was funded, in part, by the
Ford Foundation. The Irish administrators of that all-Ireland Grant are now
located in the Economics Dept. of U.C.D. where my first report on the
research, Community and Conflict in Northern Ireland: a study of Limavaddy,
is now lodged and achieving obscurity. However, the book itself could be of
help to a student focusing upon relationships bertween the two major
religious groups in Northern Ireland.

John Hickey
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20 September 2000 06:37  
  
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 06:37:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Research Funding MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.FED8C85940.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Research Funding
  
Cymru66@aol.com
  
From: Cymru66[at]aol.com

On another tack... Has the student looking for funding tried sources in the
U.S. or joint projects funded by the British Council.

John Hickey
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20 September 2000 06:47  
  
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 06:47:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Crook, Cult of Saints MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.c2f8e941.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Crook, Cult of Saints
  
Forwarded for information...

Thought might interest the Church historians...

P.O'S.


H-NET BOOK REVIEW
Published by H-Catholic[at]h-net.msu.edu (September, 2000)

John Crook. The Architectural Setting of the Cult of Saints in
the Early Christian West c.300-c.1200. Oxford: Clarendon
Press, 2000. xxv + 308 pp. Illustrations, notes, bibliography,
and index. $85.00 (cloth), ISBN 0-19-820794-8.

Reviewed for H-Catholic by John A. Dick
, European Centre for Ethics,
Catholic University of Leuven

Holy Bones and Ecclesiastical Architecture

The interested general reader as well as the specialized
historian will find this a fascinating and very worthwhile book.
John Crook explores the ways in which church architecture has
been shaped by holy bones -- the relics of those whom the church
venerated as saints -- from the earliest centuries of
Christianity. The church's holy dead continued to exercise an
influence on the living from beyond the grave; and their
physical remains provided a focus for prayer. Memoriae, house
churches, crypts in early Christian Rome, elaborate monuments
containing the bodies of bishops in Merovingian Gaul,
ring-crypts in the Carolingian empire, as well as crypts,
tomb-shrines, and high shrines in medieval England all
demonstrate how the presence of a holy body within a church
influenced its architecture.

Crook, who is an architectural historian, archeological
consultant for Winchester Cathedral, and a senior research
fellow at the University of Reading, begins his study with the
relics of St. Polycarp in the mid second century and concludes
with Thomas Becket's in the twelfth. He demonstrates very
convincingly how the cult of relics played a significant role in
determining the architecture and internal arrangement of
churches in the early medieval West. Previous researchers have
generally ignored the cult of relics and focused instead on the
effect of liturgy on church design. Crook's book is also the
first complete modern study of this hitherto somewhat neglected
aspect of medieval church architecture in western Europe.
Previously, the standard work had been Andre Grabar's
_Martyrium_ (published in two volumes between 1943 and 1946).
Grabar's study, however, was concerned primarily with Byzantine
art and architecture.

The first chapter introduces the subject of the cult of relics,
demonstrating that the cult of the saints was a very physical
affair which involved touching and kissing holy bones; crawling
beneath body shrines; creating contact relics; later
fragmentation of saintly bodies; and burials near the body of
the holy one. The remainder of the book consists of a
chronological description, analysis, and discussion of these
physical manifestations: the physical setting of relic cults up
to c.750 (chapter two), the physical setting of relic cults in
Rome and the architecture of the Carolingian Renaissance
(chapter three), the architecture and cult of saints from the
ninth to the early eleventh century (chapter four), relic cults
in Normandy and England in the tenth and eleventh centuries
(chapter five), relic cults in England in the twelfth century
(chapter six), and the development of shrines (chapter seven).
Crook draws heavily on contemporary literature as well as
archeological and historical discoveries. His well-documented
use of primary source material is impressive, along with his use
of equally well-documented studies of primary source materials.
More than a hundred illustrations provide concrete examples of
his observations; and an extensive bibliography and
well-constructed index make the book a helpful tool for the
reader's continued exploration.

Precision and specialization are the forte of this book; but
also its shortcoming. After reading the book, one is left with
the impression that the veneration of relics was the end-all and
be-all of early medieval Christian life. The reader here,
drawing from his or her own understanding of medieval
Christianity, must supply the balance. Nevertheless, I strongly
recommend this well-researched and, in may respects, unique
book.

Copyright (c) 2000 by H-Net, all rights reserved. This work
may be copied for non-profit educational use if proper credit
is given to the author and the list. For other permission,
please contact H-Net[at]h-net.msu.edu.
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20 September 2000 10:47  
  
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:47:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Irish Empire MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.Ffb1f0942.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Irish Empire
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Patrick O'Sullivan

My thanks to all of those who have contacted me about The Irish Empire television series.

Yes, in the end, I think it is good. The producers and the directors did listen to the
Irish Diaspora Studies community. The main contrast is, of course, with all those bad
television experiences...

The episode to be shown on BBC2 next Saturday is especially significant because it focuses
on the experiences of Irish women.

Yes, the series would make an excellent teaching tool...

There are two Irish Empire websites, one through RTE, Irish television, and another
through Clarence Pictures, which is allied to Little Bird (the Dublin production company).
The addresses are:

www.rte.ie/tv/irishempire

www.clarencepix.chamberwire.com

And I think that videotapes of the series can be purchased through those Web sites.

No, I have no intention of ever again using the phrase 'Not Irish Enough', and that phrase
is available for thesis titles, book titles and sound bites. Perhaps it can join
'Silence, Exile and Cunning' as the most over-used title in Irish Diaspora Studies.

And to those who admired the decor of my 'home' - silly people. The interview was filmed
in the London home of the series producer, Ritchie Cogan. MY home is scruffy and full of
books...

P.O'S.


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21 September 2000 06:26  
  
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:26:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Irish Empire MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.a6877cE944.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Irish Empire
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Patrick O'Sullivan

I am told that attempts to order The Irish Empire videos from the sites mentioned seem to
lead, by a roundabout route, to the BlackStar site
http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/7100000000275

And that the NTHS (North American) video version of the series is presently available at a
pre-release price of 11.99 (currency not specified), including airmail shipping. A
bargain, in any currency. As can be the way of good television you get a lot of
up-to-date research and thought.

Ritchie Cogan, the series producer of The Irish Empire, can be contacted at
ritchie[at]oneworld.org

Piaras and I did float the idea of inviting Ritchie Cogan to a Conference - media,
history, Irish Studies, Irish Diaspora Studies, whatever - to talk about the whole
business of turning scholarly research into television. There are now enough Irish
Diaspora series and films to do a compare and contrast exercise.

Interestingly - and most probably significantly - Ritchie Cogan has withdrawn from the
straightforward television business and now works for an organisation exploring media
representations of 'Third World' and development issues.

P.O'S.


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21 September 2000 06:27  
  
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:27:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Journals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.D24ae0e8943.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Journals
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Patrick O'Sullivan

The latest, bumper, issue of the Canadian Journal for Irish Studies lies before me.

And looking back at the Irish Studies journals that have appeared during the past months I
become aware that, really, we have seen a lot of high quality - and important - work in
the journals so far this year. An outstanding issue of Bullan, for example.

And many articles of specific Irish Diaspora Studies interest.

I have been loading up the various Tables of Contents. But I have delayed posting them to
the Ir-D list, because - feedback tells me - people like Tables of Contents with a few
comments and signposts. Pressure of work here, and other reasons, means that the comments
will be brief. The Tables of Contents are, in any case, in themselves worth posting - as
a way of helping us stay in touch with developments.

So, Journal information will follow. And anyone who wants to comment on a Journal or
article should feel free to do so.

P.O'S.


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21 September 2000 07:25  
  
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:25:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Bullan, IV, 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.17B3945.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0009.txt]
  
Ir-D Bullan, IV, 2
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

There was some discussion recently on the Ir-D list about the reappearance of the journal
Bullan, after a long gap.

I have pasted in below contact information, and an outline of the latest issue, Winter
1999/Spring 2000. Every now and again there appears an issue of a journal that is really
impressively strong - and this re-born issue of Bullan is one such. Very impressive
indeed - the Bullan team are to be congratulated.

[In the list of Contents, below, my own comments are in square brackets.]

I would especially recommend Chris Morash's review of John Harrington's book.

P.O'S.


Univerity of Notre Dame Press
Bullán
http://www.undpress.nd.edu/undpbullan.htm

Nathan Wallace
wallace.12[at]nd.edu

BULLAN
1148 Flanner Hall
Notre Dame, (Indiana) IN46556 usa
(219) 631-6250
USA

BULLAN
Volume IV Number 2
Winter 1999/Spring 2000

Contents

Essays

Factions and Fictions: Burke, Colonialism and Revolution
SEAMUS DEANE

Old Parchment and Water: The Boundary Commission of 1925 and the Copperfastening of the
Irish Border
MARGARET 0'CALLAGHAN

The Class of the Clitheroes: O'Casey's Revisions to The Plough and the Stars Promptbook
NICHOLAS GRENE
[This essay explains some long-worrying problems with the text of The Plough - the
Clitheroes cannot seem to make up their minds which social class they belong to. The
revisions were guided by Yeats and co, who wanted O'Casey to write only about his own
background. This, of course, anticipates Yeats' strictures about The Silver Tassie...]

'The shanachie of Belfast and its red-brick Gaeltacht': Cathal O'Byrne
RICHARD KIRKLAND

Thomas Moore's Wild Song: The 1821 Irish Melodies
MATTHEW CAMPBELL

Carleton's Ecclesiastical Context: The Ulster Catholic Experience
OLIVER P. RAFFERTY, S.J.

Robert Burns and the Ulster-Scots Literary Revival of the 1790s
LIAM McILVANNEY

Review Article
Brendan Bradshaw and John Morrill (eds.), The British Problem, c. 1534-1707: State
Formation in the Atlantic Archipelago
Brendan Bradshaw and Peter Roberts (eds.), British Consciousness and Identity: The Making
of Britain, 1533-1707
Colin Kidd, British Identities Before Nationalism: Ethnicity and Nationhood in the
Atlantic World, 1600-1800
HUGH F. KEARNEY

Reviews

John Kelly, Warwick Could, and Dierdre Toomey (eds.), The Collected Letters of W. B. Yeats
1896-1900
JONATHAN ALLISON

John P. Harrington, The Irish Play on the New York Stage 1874-1966
CHRIS MORASH
[Another very favourable review of John Harrington's book. But this review - brief as it
is - goes further than other reviews and outlines what might be an Irish Diaspora Studies
approach to the USES of literature. I'll ask Chris Morash for permission to distribute
the full text of this review on the Irish-Diaspora list...]


Christopher Highley, Shakespeare, Spenser, and the Crisis in Ireland
Willy Maley, Salvaging Spenser: Colonialism, Culture and Identity
Andrew Hadfield, Spenser's Irish Experience: Wilde Fruit and Salvage Soyl
RICHARD MCCABE

Steven Matthews, Irish Poetry: Politics, History, Negotiation: The Evolving Debate, 1969
to the Present
Peter McDonald, Mistaken Identities: Poetry and Northern Ireland
CAROL TELL

Mary J. Kelly and Barbara O'Connor (eds.), Media Audiences in Ireland
Eoin Devereux, Devils and Angels: Television, Ideology and the Coverage of Poverty
Robert J. Savage, Irish Television: The Political and Social Origins
LANCE PETTITT

Terry Eagleton, Crazy Jane and the Bishop and Other Essays on Irish Culture
RICHARD KEARNEY

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