1 | 19 November 1997 06:19 |
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Ir-D Over to you... | |
Dear list-members,
We have heard from one list moderator, Russell Murray. And I have just been told about the other two, Lynda Prescott and Brid Featherstone... Lynda is ill with the flu - this is the flu with the throbbing headache and the dizzy spells... Brid has sealed herself into a small room so that she can finish writing her book about post-modernism and social work... Which only goes to show why we need a team of people to watch over things here. But we can manage... The list can now begin... doing whatever it wants to do. Some lists like people to send in little potted CVs, about activities and interests. Others have highly organised book reviewing systems. We have to decide how we want to begin. I am not sure we have quite reached critical mass. So, the list should grow 'through invitation and introduction' - let people know. Thank you all, for your patience, and interest. Paddy O'Sullivan Patrick O'Sullivan Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora Yorkshire Playwrights http://www.poptel.org.uk/unholy/yp | |
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2 | 14 December 1997 08:09 |
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A Beginning... | |
Well, for a start, does anyone know (or wish to speculate on) how the
word 'Irish' became associated with the concept of 'luck' or 'good fortune'? This IS a serious research question, by the way! Thanks! Marion R. Casey Dept. of History New York University | |
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Luck of the Irish | |
It is, I think, a sign that the irish-diaspora list has not yet reached
critical mass that I cannot think of any way of answering Marion Casey's query about 'the luck of the Irish'. My first instinct was that we must be dealing with yet another sub-department of the 'native/settler' stereotype - in effect, 'the happy-go-lucky Irish'. But how you would search that out I don't know. Then I recalled that my father would say, whenever disaster threatened - which was often - 'The luck of the Irish!' With heavy irony. But also, when something good happened - which was rare - he would say, 'The luck of the Irish!' Almost jovially. I think this may be a question for Bruce Stewart, with his devastating databases. Bruce will be joining the list within the next few days. Paddy Patrick O'Sullivan Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora Yorkshire Playwrights http://www.poptel.org.uk/unholy/yp Marion R. Casey wrote: > > Well, for a start, does anyone know (or wish to speculate on) how the > word 'Irish' became associated with the concept of 'luck' or 'good > fortune'? This IS a serious research question, by the way! Thanks! > > Marion R. Casey > Dept. of History > New York University | |
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4 | 14 January 1998 11:05 |
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Ir-D New York, New York: a further comment | |
Date Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:57:11 GMT
From: don.macraild[at]sunderland.ac.uk (MACRAILD Don) Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: owner-irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Don MacRaild visited the Irish Diaspora Studies Web site, and, enthused thereby, went on to buy a copy of Bayor & Meagher. He writes... New York, New York: a further comment Ronald H. Bayor and Timothy J. Meagher, eds, The New York Irish , The Johns Hopkins University Press, Baltimore and London, 1996, 743 pp This is one of the most important studies in the canon of Irish Diaspora studies. It is a very good and a very overdue book. How could New York be overlooked in this way until now? Is it because its Irish heritage is too big and the story too important? Perhaps. Maybe the main problem has been that the New York Irish required a monumental team effort for anything meaningful to be produced in a single life-time. The range of this book is astonishing, and the way its components meet the wider brief is a credit to the organisational skills of the editors. This is a sort of academic community history project and I have never seen anything quite like it. Perhaps historians of Glasgow, Liverpool, Manchester or Newcastle might bring such methods and insights into our corner of the Diaspora? Don MacRaild, University of Sunderland | |
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5 | 20 January 1998 02:33 |
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Subject A Wonderful Place | |
I want to follow up on Donald MacRaild's comments on the Bayor & Meagher
volume, The New York Irish. As my own review - see the Irish Diaspora Studies web site, and Irish Studies Review (forthcoming) - made clear I do endorse Don's comments. This volume builds to the strengths of the multi-author project. At the end of my review I suggested that the other city that cried out for the 'Roundtable - Bayor & Meagher treatment' was London. And for a similar complex of reasons. First the economic, then the political. One of my publishers, Cassell, has indicated interest in seeing a formal proposal. I thought... a fairly long chronology - certainly including the eighteenth century. London as the economic power and Ireland as part of its hinterland. In various periods. London as the political centre of the empire - especially under the Union. Much on literature, especially theatre and drama - especially C18th (one of my interests) and C19th. And autobiography. And other cultural formations. Sport. Interactions between all these. Working title: A Wonderful Place: the Irish in London, 1413-2000 Eh? Paddy Patrick O'Sullivan Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora Yorkshire Playwrights http://www.poptel.org.uk/unholy/yp > Don MacRaild visited the Irish Diaspora Studies Web site, and, enthused > thereby, went on to buy a copy of Bayor & Meagher. He writes... > > > New York, New York: a further comment > > Ronald H. Bayor and Timothy J. Meagher, eds, The New York Irish , The > Johns Hopkins University Press, Baltimore and London, 1996, 743 pp > > This is one of the most important studies in the canon of Irish Diaspora > studies. It is a very good and a very overdue book. How could New York > be overlooked in this way until now? Is it because its Irish heritage is > too big and the story too important? Perhaps. Maybe the main problem has > been that the New York Irish required a monumental team effort for > anything meaningful to be produced in a single life-time. The range of > this book is astonishing, and the way its components meet the wider > brief is a credit to the organisational skills of the editors. This is a > sort of academic community history project and I have never seen > anything quite like it. Perhaps historians of Glasgow, Liverpool, > Manchester or Newcastle might bring such methods and insights into our > corner of the Diaspora? > > Don MacRaild, University of Sunderland > > | |
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6 | 20 January 1998 04:22 |
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London Irish | |
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To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Sender: owner-irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >From "Marion R. Casey" A book on the London Irish and their relationship to Ireland is a terrific idea! (By the way, Donald MacRaild's comments on Bayor & Meagher have warmed many hearts here in New York this winter!) One of the most surprisingly informative sessions for me at the recent Scattering Conference (Irish Centre for Migration Studies, University College Cork) was a paper by Dave Edwards of the UCC History Department on the London Irish, 1459-1650. I recall that he discussed Irish orchard owners from Kilkenny who were critical suppliers to the London costermonger trade, and who formed one of the first Irish community nuclei in London. It is important to approach city histories from aspects like this, because such things were elemental to urban development, to the eventual transformation into a metropolis. In New York, the equivalent would be the Irish in the 18th century linen trade. Marion R. Casey Department of History New York University | |
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7 | 21 January 1998 10:22 |
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Irish in London | |
Message from Don MacRaild:
Paddy'e idea seems a good one, though I'm sure that London is such a `Wonderful Place'! London is much underplayed as a political centre for the Irish - a city where MPs / jobbing journalists could earn a crust in the day-time before filibustering the night away at the Palace of Westminster. There are also flashes of an earlier, plebeian Irish political culture in, for example, Ian McCalman's brilliant book The Revolutionary Underworld - men such as the Binns brothers are just as important in their way as the great `Tay Pay' O'Connor, are they not? Yes, yes, there is much in London which demands the New York treatment. Cheers Don MacRaild | |
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8 | 30 April 1998 08:41 |
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Ir-D Irish Historians, Durham | |
My report on
Eleventh Conference of Irish Historians in Britain Memory and Commemoration in Irish History University of Durham, April 3-5, 1998 The sequence of Conferences of Irish Historians in Britain was started by Marianne Elliott and Roy Foster when they were - oooh - about so high. The Conference takes place every two years. This year in Durham. The last time the Conference was held in Durham it was at the height of the 'revisionist/anti-revisionist' controversy - a very rumbustious affair. This year was a much quieter event - and not as well attended. I like Marianne and Roy's Conferences. I like to watch the historian in her/his habitat (that is, surrounded by other historians). I like the determined effort to give space to younger scholars. It was a real pleasure being able to meet people who are just beginning their research, and wanting to talk about it, or thinking about publishing, or... And I like being able to put faces to names. So, highlights for me... As soon as I arrived I was plunged into conversation with Cathy Swift of Maynooth - who gave a paper on the High Kings of Tara. This was the by now standard conversation I have with archaeologists (eg with Charles Orser) about how archaeologists interpret evidence. The example Cathy gave was one that had puzzled me - ok we know how much wood you need to smelt bronze for one axe-head. But what does that really tell us about social organisation? Alan Ford and I have exchanged bits of paper about theology and history - and here he was, with a very neat moustache, talking about James Ussher. Kevin O'Neill was visiting from Boston, and gave a very well received paper on the Star-Spangled Shamrock - Irish-Americanism and militarism. In fact the audience reaction was very interesting - I assume every Irish-American lad learns of Patrick Henry O'Rourke at his mother's knee. Here it was all new. Alan Heesom on the Marquess of Londonderry and his County Down tenants - based on the Londonderry archives - gave fascinating insights into the finances of an Anglo-Irish landlord. And Edna Longley, on Poetry and Forgetting, was very good. I sometimes have trouble following Edna Longley - the sentences can be so precise, subtle, allusive, elusive and I cannot see quite how one sentence connects to the next. Here, on remembering, she suggested that in Northern Ireland the word 'remember' needs an aggrsssive preposition. 'We remember AT someone else.' And she suggested that, instead of remembering we should build a monument to Amnesia, and then forget where we put it. But where would that leave historians? I like visiting Durham anyway, for two reasons. One, it is a beautiful city, with that wonderful Norman cathedral - and yes I did go to pay homage at the tomb of Bede. The other is that Sheridan Gilley (editor of the Swift & Gilley volumes, biographer of Newman) lives there, and I am very fond of him. He has been unwell recently, and I see it as my job to take him for walks and make him laugh. (This meant - I have to say - that I missed some of the Conference papers.) At breakfast one day I told Sheridan the story of the fish goujon - he looked at me with kindly concern, and then began to laugh, and laughed till tears rolled down his face. A good day's work, I thought. Patrick O'Sullivan Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies University of Bradford Bradford BD7 1DP Yorkshire England Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora Yorkshire Playwrights http://www.poptel.org.uk/unholy/yp | |
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Ir-D Ir-D Irish Historians, Durham | |
Dear Paddy,
Such a touching recounting of your visit with Dr. Gilley.... I too admire his work, but I have had difficulty obtaining a copy of his critique of L. Perry Curtis' "Apes & Angels." Gilley's critique is titled "English Attitudes to the Irish in England, 1780-1900," in "Immigrants and Minorities in British Society," ed. C. Holmes (London: 1978), 81-110. If you have any means of finding this article, could you forward a copy to me at: 1370 Skiles Lane, St. Paul, MN 55112. I have not had an opportunity to redraft an abstract about "Work" that might appear on the calendar project. Let me know if that would absolutely assist in bringing the project to a more definite stage.... I look forward to your mail, every day. You're doing a marvelous job with the IDS list!!! All the best, Joel Hollander | |
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10 | 6 May 1998 08:47 |
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Ir-D Diaspora in World Art | |
Patrick,
I'd love to get through the millenium year with the Irish Diaspora in World Art. If AIB balks, can you interest a museum? In the U.S., such themed art calendars are major money-makers for the Smithsonian Museums, and others I'm sure. As for Monuments, I'm not so sure. In addition to Fontenoy, the celtic cross, with wolfhound, honouring the Irish Brigade at Gettysburg. The celtic cross honouring the WWI 16th (Irish) Division at Guillemot/Ginchy. The Robert Emmet statue in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park; in Emmetsburg, Iowa; on Massachussetts Avenue in Washington, D.C., and St. Stephen's Green, Dublin. I've been told there are 30 monuments to Robert in the U.S. alone, but cannot find a reference. Anyone? Also, Kevin Whelan thinks that the Emmet Monument (this one to Robert's older brother Thomas Addis) at St. Paul's Chapel, New York, includes the first inscription in Irish on an Irish monument anywhere in the world. This obelisk was erected in 1832. Can anyone confirm, or comment on, Dr. Whelan's theory? Brian McGinn Alexandria, Virginia bmcginn[at]clark.net | |
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Ir-D Great Hunger Commemoration Service, Liverpool | |
We have been asked to bring the following announcement to the attention
of the Irish-Diaspora list. Would Ir-D list members please pass on the announcement to other interested lists and groups. Booklet The Great Hunger Commemoration Service St. Anthony's Church Scotland Road, Liverpool, England Friday October 3 1997 Following the discovery of mass famine graves, and following on from a number of local history projects, a Service of Commemoration was held in St. Anthony's Church, Liverpool, on Friday October 3 1997. A booklet has now been produced, which records that Commemoration Service. This includes the texts of the following addresses: 'Liverpool, the Cemetery of Ireland' by Professor Frank Neal, University of Salford 'Time for Justice' by Tim Allen of CAFOD 'A New Covenant with the Poor' by Archbishop Patrick Kelly. The booklet includes a selection of newspaper items which trace chronologically the events in Liverpool during the awful year of 1847. Amongst these is a picture of the memorial to the ten Catholic priests who died that year, of typhus, contracted whilst ministering to the sick. The rest of the booklet is made up of two lists - a list of the names of the 2303 men, women and children who were buried at St. Anthony's during the year 1847, and the names of the 7219 paupers, with age and religious affiliation, who were buried by the poor law authorities in Liverpool that year. 73% of these were Catholics. The booklet, as well as being a work of commemoration, is thus also potentially a historical source. In his address Professor Frank Neal says: 'History tends to be written in terms of the lives of the rich and powerful. I believe that, where possible, the poor should be rescued from obscurity, if for no other reason than to remind us that the statistics of disease and death refer to real people...' Copies of the booklet are now on sale - cost 5.50. Cheques should be made payable to 'St. Anthony's History Account'. The address to write to is: Fr. Tom Williams St. Anthony's Church Scotland Road Liverpool England Proceeds from the sale of the booklet will go to the Liverpool Famine Memorial Committee and to CAFOD. End of Announcement Patrick O'Sullivan Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies University of Bradford Bradford BD7 1DP Yorkshire England Patrick O'Sullivan Irish Diaspora list Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora | |
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BOOKS: James Huston on Walvin and Tenzer | |
H-NET BOOK REVIEW
Published by H-CivWar[at]h-net.msu.edu (July, 1998) James Walvin. _Questioning Slavery_. London: Routledge, 1997. xi + 202 pp. Notes and index. $67.00 (cloth), ISBN 0-415-15356-5; $19.95 (paper), ISBN 04-415-15357-3. Lawrence R. Tenzer. _The Forgotten Cause of the Civil War: A New Look at the Slavery Issue_. Manahawkin, N.J: Scholars' Publishing House, 1997. xxvi + 273 pp. Illustrations, appendix, notes, bibliography, and index. $16.95 (paper), ISBN 0-9628348-0-7. Reviewed for H-CivWar by James L. Huston , Oklahoma State University Slavery is at the heart of the modern western European, American, and African experiences in respect to economics, social customs, and moral theorizing. So much is written on the subject because there is still so much to learn from it. James Walvin takes a broad look at the development of the institution in the British-speaking areas of North America while Lawrence Tenzer probes one particular reason for its ending. Walvin offers a refreshing synthesis of the literature that has appeared in the last twenty-five years, while Tenzer produces an interesting but debatable reason for the North's hostility to the peculiar institution. James Walvin has been engaged in investigating British slavery, especially in the Caribbean, for several decades. Besides authoring numerous books, he is one of the editors of the British Journal _Slavery and Abolition_ and thus has been in a position to observe the changing flow of studies on the institution. His work synthesizes the recent literature on the growth and demise of slavery in the British-speaking American world and thereby performs a welcome service for scholars who wish to keep abreast of the field. Nevertheless, the book is a sketch of scholarly developments that the author has molded to his purposes; as Walvin states in his introduction, the work does not present the points at issue in the innumerable controversies that rage over slavery, nor does it seek to include all topics relating to the institution. Walvin's subjects--actually, his chapter headings--are the European experience with slavery in the past, the origins of the institution, the reason for the enslavement of Africans, the impact of slavery upon the developing European economy, the means of domination and its effect upon the enslaved, the different roles of male and female slaves, slave resistance, and the demise of the institution. However, within these headings are distinct themes that Walvin hammers home. First, slavery was wholly an economic institution. Its purpose everywhere was to provide a labor supply. As an economic institution, slavery stimulated the European economy and assisted the rise of capitalism by fostering extensive commercial exchange between Europe and the Americas and by spreading the use of banking institutions to finance the slave trade. Into this discussion Walvin then injects the question, why Africans? His answer is twofold. First, European racial prejudice against Africans can be traced back to antiquity and certainly to Elizabethan England and, second, the other supply of cheap labor, Indians, either died out or proved unproductive. Indeed, Walvin insists that the racial argument developed because slaveowners found it the best means to justify slavery in the political realm--his evidence here is primarily with the West Indies planters. A second theme running throughout the book is the physical violence associated with slavery: "The Atlantic slave system was conceived in and nurtured by violence" (p. 50), and "Once again it is impossible to understand the realities of slave life without confronting the ubiquity, the inescapability, of physical punishment" (p. 58). Walvin notes that violence varied considerably with demography and circumstance: it was less violent in the American colonies and the United States, and it was worst in Haiti and Barbados. The extent of violence, Walvin intimates, ultimately caused the institution's downfall. In the eighteenth century, a humanitarian sensibility arose that attacked European practices of cruelty. This sensibility ultimately was the backbone of the moral crusade against slavery in Great Britain and the United States. And against it, slaveholders had few defenses except race. A third theme that Walvin develops is the unusual extent of paradoxes involved with slavery. This theme is clearly associated with the recent literature because it is here that Walvin makes use of the expanding literature on females and slave community social life. Only a few of these ironies will be illustrated in this review. Slaveholders based their public defense of slavery on race and keeping the races separate; yet interracial sex in the Caribbean was the norm, not a deviation. Slavery required domination of the slave, yet as a system slavery could not operate without individual freedom; the totally dominated slave was economically worthless. Slaves were property who were legally denied the fruits of their labor; yet in the Caribbean islands--Jamaica in particular--a slave market economy arose in which, Walvin states, some twenty percent of the currency was in the hands of the slaves. The paradoxes of slavery involve some of the most problematic parts of the book, and the problem has now been with the profession since the 1960s. Slavery was a system of oppression, but to follow the thought to its logical conclusion results in slaves having no autonomy and no personality--it leads to Stanley Elkins' Sambo. Thus we enter into the realm of resistance, negotiation, and the give-and-take of relations between master and slave. Some of this discussion, as it always has been, is strained. One simply cannot have extreme exploitation of slaves while simultaneously positing a vibrant, autonomous slave community. With this reservation aside, Walvin's book is an excellent read and highly informative. Of a different character is Lawrence Tenzer's book on the "hidden" cause of the Civil War. Tenzer's hidden cause is northern fear that slavery knew no racial boundaries and that eventually the institution would claim northerners as victims. Leaving aside momentarily the thesis, Tenzer's work inadvertently raises disturbing epistemological and methodological questions. Tenzer's argument is straightforward and quite logically presented. Slavery's definition depended on the mother's race; by law, any African blood meant an individual could be enslaved. However, because of interracial liasons, mulattoes appeared that began losing a dark skin color. Over the decades, a sizeable number of slaves appeared who had light skins: skin coloration, in fact, was ceasing to become the mark of slavery. That circumstance led Tenzer to conclude that instead of African slavery, the South was practicing white slavery. Race by the 1850s ceased to be the distinguishing feature of southern slavery. Northerners recognized this and feared that the continued existence of slavery would lead to northerners becoming enslaved. Because skin color no longer was any real guide, southerners could claim northern whites to be their runaway slaves and recapture them via the Fugitive Slave Law. Tenzer demonstrates that the term "white slavery" abounded in the appeals of abolitionists and Republicans and formed one of their main arguments to restrict and dismantle slavery. Thus the dread of "white slavery" becomes one of the hidden causes of the Civil War. The documentation is not in question. Most historians of the 1850s will find few documentary discoveries here, and virtually all scholars have run into this argument. In the literature, it is more appropriately subsumed under the "slave power conspiracy theory." The author calls it a hidden cause of the Civil War because he defines cause as "any political or social dynamic which exacerbated the tension between the North and the South" (p. xi). This definition is too broad for me, and what Tenzer has focused upon is one strand of argument that indeed existed in political antislavery. Tenzer would stand, I think, on firmer ground if he argued that northerners feared the competition between free and slave labor rather than stressing the apprehension about whites becoming slaves, but his basic point is correct: this argument existed and supporting evidence for it is unquestionable. It is at this point that epistemological and methodological problems arise. The methodological problem is Tenzer's reliance entirely upon documentary evidence taken from political tracts and speeches and then imputing from these sources motivations and concerns. Tenzer has done what virtually all historians--and particularly those interested in political ideology--have done, and that is to rely upon the written and spoken word. This work should serve as a caution against a too ready acceptance of parts of argument and a belief that words alone are sufficient to reconstruct the past. The problem is that Tenzer wants to argue that antebellum Americans did not think of slavery in racial terms. His methodological shortcoming is that while his documentary evidence is undisputed, he does not balance it against other evidence or try to assess whether it was central or a derivative part of more important arguments. To be specific, the whole South--with the exception of some strange folk like George Fitzhugh--justified slavery on the basis of race and claimed that white liberty depended on black slavery. More important, northern Democrats only sustained southern institutions because of race. If white slavery had indeed been a pervasive fear, northern Democrats would have reacted to it--and they did not. Tenzer is correct that slavery and its legal definition posed problems in regard to skin color, but the whole of the documentary evidence is that southern slavery was African slavery and white Americans knew it. The epistemological dilemma involves what historians do with the documentary record. In numerous instances, Tenzer yields a long quote from a tract or a speech, frequently of abolitionist origin. He then says northerners had easy access to this material and therefore absorbed the argument. For example, of abolitionist charges that southern slavery included white people, Tenzer summarizes (all in italics), "_The abolitionist newspapers in which accounts of white slavery appeared were widely read_" (p. 37). But historians have few ways of knowing what documents were actually read, how they were received--especially by the multitudes--what lessons were absorbed, and how people responded to them. Just to be precise on the point, Republican speeches probably normally carried five to six major antislavery themes, ranging from morality to economics to political to racial. Which of these prompted concern on the part of the northern public? The epistemological problem--and not just for Tenzer but for those employing the documentary record--is to figure out how the arguments were received and which ones actually motivated behavior. If this sounds familiar, it should. The issue, still unresolved, is the one that haunted the 1970s and 1980s, the one of literary postmodernism and deconstruction: it is the problem of the semiotics of the text. Although I doubt that historians will accept Tenzer's thesis, and they will probably be irked by his introductory concern over "political correctness" and his tendency to italicize so frequently, the book is nonetheless worth reading and the problem he poses worth considering. A fear that slavery would encompass whites did exist, although not as strongly as Tenzer would have us believe. The larger framework for consideration--one well suited for class discussion--is what were the long term ramifications of slavery? Could slavery be defined racially and the country be continuously divided into one realm of freedom and one realm of slavery? Were there no repercussions for free society by having slavery in its midst? It is in this area that I think Tenzer makes a worthwhile contribution. Copyright (c) 1998 by H-Net, all rights reserved. This work may be copied for non-profit educational use if proper credit is given to the author and the list. For other permission, please contact H-Net[at]H-Net.MSU.EDU. | |
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BOOKS: Barbara Beatty on Katz, _Improving Poor People_ | |
H-NET BOOK REVIEW
Published by H-Urban[at]h-net.msu.edu (July, 1998) Michael B. Katz. _Improving Poor People: The Welfare State, the "Underclass," and Urban Schools as History_. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1995. xi + 179 pp. Notes and index. $35.00 (cloth), ISBN 0-691-02994-6; $12.95 (paper), ISBN 0-691-01605-4. Reviewed for H-Urban by Barbara Beatty, , Wellesley College Michael Katz dedicates this set of essays summarizing his more than thirty years of work on the relationship of welfare policy, poverty, and schooling to his graduate students. Here is a historian at the top of his form writing about his career, his craft, and his concerns. Young postmodernists take note. The boundaries of personal and public history can be crossed, but it takes years of painstaking research aided by able graduate assistants to do so effectively. Katz begins by telling us how he became a historian in the sixties. He studied history and literature under Perry Miller and Oscar Handlin as an undergraduate at Harvard, got an M.A.T. in history, worked as a playschool director at the Cambridge Neighborhood House, and completed his doctorate in history of education at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. Of these experiences, he says, working with poor children and their families affected him the most. >From them Katz learned lessons that he (and I) did not learn at Harvard: about "what it took to survive poverty," and that stereotypes about poor people as passive, incompetent victims were patronizing and false (p. 146). This personal story provides the context for the central questions of _Improving Poor People_. What is the relationship between urban scholarship and urban activism? Can history play a role in helping to alleviate the problems of American inner cities? Do historians advance social reform or retard it? Would historians contribute more to society if they worked directly on urban problems by becoming social workers, public interest lawyers, or got degrees in public policy (p. 3)? Note what's missing from this list: becoming an urban schoolteacher. As someone who did become an urban schoolteacher after graduating from college, I share Katz's assessment of the transformative effects of working with poor children and their families. Though I may be biased on this account, Katz's omission of teaching is indicative of an ambivalence about education which appears here and elsewhere in his work. Katz begins each chapter of _Improving Poor People_ with an account of his personal involvement with the issue at hand. In 1992, he was appointed to Pennsylvania's Task Force on Reducing Welfare Dependency. He soon discovered that, for different reasons, everyone on the task force disliked welfare. Katz thinks historians can help by explaining why Americans have such antipathy to welfare and why welfare has been so impervious to real reform. He shows that American welfare policy has focused on reforming the morals and behavior of the "undeserving poor" rather than on providing much needed "outdoor relief." Tracing the development of poorhouses, "scientific" charity, welfare capitalism, and the limited public social security of what he calls our "semiwelfare state," Katz argues that the ideology and power of market models have prevented the growth of a concept of universal social insurance in the United States. The chapter on the "underclass" begins with an account of Katz's role as historian for the Social Science Research Council's Committee for Research on the Underclass, initiated by the Rockefeller Foundation in 1987. He thinks historians can help by showing how the concept of the "underclass" captured "poverty discourse" by comparing conditions in inner cities today with what they used to be, and by hypothesizing about alternative approaches to welfare that don't pathologize individual behavior. Katz discusses how the "undeserving poor" became the "underclass," a term he says is unhelpful because it "muddies debate and inhibits formulation of constructive policy" (p. 97). He thinks the situation in deindustrialized inner cities is truly new and more desperate than in the past, when there were more opportunities for work. Though I am not an urban economist, I think some disaggregation would be useful here. Despite Mayor Rudy Giuliani's current "civilizing" efforts, there is more street-level entrepreneurialism going on in parts of New York City, for instance, than in Detroit. But Katz is surely right that we need successful "place-based" strategies that will reduce urban isolation and provide jobs. He argues convincingly that although these strategies should be local, support from the federal government is needed to fund them. The chapter on urban schools focuses on the recent decentralization of public schools in Chicago. Katz describes how during his visit to Chicago for the first Social Science Research Council "underclass" conference, he learned from a television newscast about the election of local school councils made up of parents, teachers, and community members. Why had this momentous change received so little national attention, when Katz knew from his historical research how resistant school bureaucracies were to reform? So, funded by a grant from the Spencer Foundation, Katz and two colleagues from the University of Pennsylvania, social psychologist Michelle Fine and urban anthropologist Elaine Simon, began following what was happening in Chicago. To place decentralization in Chicago in context, Katz reviews his work on the history of organizational models of schooling. Although incipient bureaucracy won out over paternalistic voluntarism, corporate voluntarism, and democratic localism, this was not the inevitable outcome. By the turn of the century, however, urban schools had become age-graded, hierarchically-structured, mostly free and compulsory educational systems, administered and taught in by trained specialists (p. 102). Katz further notes that "the cultivation and transmission of cognitive skills and intellectual abilities as ends in themselves" was not one of the original purposes of public education (p. 110). Here is more of the ambivalence I mentioned earlier. Although character education and other social goals were certainly high on the list of rationales for public education, there is less evidence for lack of focus on academics. My own research and that of other scholars documents that many teachers, principals, and teacher educators were deeply interested in intellectual issues and strongly committed to the teaching of subject matter. In fact, Larry Cuban's _How Teachers Taught_ (New York: Teacher's College Press, 1993) and David Tyack and Larry Cuban's _Tinkering Toward Utopia_ (Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1995) suggest that teacher-centered, didactic academicism has been one of the most enduring characteristics of American public schools. Katz thinks school decentralization in Chicago is a true, broad-based social reform movement. He argues that reformers in Chicago have access to money and to a school improvement plan based on "a solid body of empirical evidence" and "carefully articulated theory" that emphasizes "the relation between educational change and governance" (p. 117). Note again what's missing from this plan: the relationship of teachers and teaching methods to educational reform. Recent research points to the critical importance of how individual teachers implement pedagogical innovations. As Richard Elmore, Penelope Peterson, and Sarah McCarthey show in _Restructuring in the Classroom_ (San Francisco: Jossey-Bass Publishers, 1996), the classroom is the level at which educational reform occurs or is subverted, in both centralized and decentralized schools. School administrators, especially principals, play a critical role, as do governance, school finance, teachers' unions, parents, and other societal factors. But like many academicians, Katz needs to pay more attention to the details of what's going on inside classrooms. Katz puts re-energizing and reeducating teachers at the top of his list of the implications of history for improving urban schools. Here too, more attention to teachers would be helpful. If Katz had examined the social history of urban teachers, he might have phrased this suggestion differently. Like poor people, teachers are often stereotyped as passive, incompetent, and in need of improvement. While many teachers do need help, imposing reeducation without understanding how reforms affect teachers' already overburdened workdays is not a promising strategy, as Kate Rousmaniere's _City Teachers_ (New York: Teachers College Press, 1997) suggests. So how is school reform in Chicago progressing? Katz knows genuine reform takes a long time and that it is too soon to tell. He cites research indicating that school reform in Chicago is going well. Katz attributes this improvement to democratic localism. But here again he doesn't show the connection between changes in governance and what goes on in individual classrooms and schools. Schools in Chicago have used their autonomy in different ways. We need to know more about the specifics and effects of these bottom-up reforms. And new, centralized curriculum standards have been instituted in Chicago since the experiment began, which may also be a factor. The question of the success of the Chicago experiment is very important. Katz describes Chicago school reform as a "vast engine of adult education" in which parents and community members are learning through the exercise of democratic localism. But although parent and community involvement increased in Chicago initially, data in the April and May 1998 issues of _Catalyst_ show a worrisome trend of declining participation in local school councils and elections, as Jeffrey Mirel notes in an upcoming book on urban education to be published by Brookings next year (personal correspondence, June 18, 1998). As Katz knows, children must learn from this experiment too. Scores on standardized tests given to schoolchildren in Chicago have been going up. Katz understands that these are not the only measures of success and briefly mentions new research on alternative forms of educational assessment. He invokes the mantra of portfolios, a wonderfully individualized way of evaluating students' work that is unfortunately also extremely time consuming for teachers and very vulnerable to subjectivity. So indicators are mixed but generally positive. In a larger sense, Katz thinks the outcome of school reform in Chicago is critical to the future of public education in America. Can urban school reform stave off increasing demands for privatization? Can reformers "create a sphere for democracy that resists the market?" (p. 137). If the Chicago experiment fails, Katz says, advocates of school "choice" will inherit the field (p. 137). This may be pinning too much on one case and one city. There are school reform efforts going on throughout the country. Research on educational reform and school choice emphasizes that it is the specific details of these plans that matter most, as Bruce Fuller and Richard Elmore's edited volume, _Who Chooses? Who Loses?_ (New York: Teachers College Press, 1996) documents. The recent donation of $100 million for a voucher program for poor children in the New York City Schools and approval of vouchers for religious schools by the Wisconsin Supreme Court is further evidence that privatization is a very real and rapidly increasing possibility. Given all this, I'm worried about making Chicago school reform the "high stakes test" for the future of public schools in the United States as a whole. In the conclusion of _Improving Poor People_, Katz asks how social institutions interact in shaping the lives of individuals and families and how poor people "navigate the terrain" of these institutions (p. 147). Drawing from qualitative case studies of Rose Warrington, Mary O'Brien, and Nellie Park, three poor women who lived in New York City around the turn of the century, Katz describes in moving detail the strategies individual poor people used to try to get support for themselves and their families. He traces routes into and out of dependence, such as illness and accidents, and remarriage and child labor. In these stories, mothers and sons seem to have bonded closely, but not all family members helped each other. Housing, of course, was a terrible problem. Housekeepers or concierges, positions that rarely exist today, were often very helpful. Political machines, on the other hand, did not come to the aid of these poor people, as some researchers have claimed. Elegantly written and very usable, _Improving Poor People_ illuminates the complexity of the history of welfare, poverty, and urban schools. Some institutions helped sometimes, but, looked at from a different perspective, "institutions reinforced existing social relations" (p. 165). In general, Katz says, schools were not among the institutions that helped. Education "as a source of mobility played almost no role in these stories about New York's poorest families" (p. 163). This finding should come as no surprise to readers of Katz's first book, _The Irony of Early School Reform_ (Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1968), in which he revised older scholarship on the positive effects of education. But why, then, does he place such high hopes on school reform in Chicago? The irony of Katz's work is that it has contributed to the ideology of school failure which has fueled the movement for privatization he opposes. Undoubtedly his research has also been an impetus for school reform and improvement. These are the unresolvable tensions between scholarship and activism with which a historian must live, as Michael Katz knows well. Copyright (c) 1998 by H-Net, all rights reserved. This work may be copied for non-profit educational use if proper credit is given to the author and the list. For other permission, please contact H-Net[at]H-Net.MSU.EDU. | |
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Martin's post and Paddy's answer prompted me to take McCaffrey's book off
the shelf and look at it from a new perspective. It is very curious that the word "diaspora" does not appear in the index. I find it once in the introduction, in a sentence that does not illuminate his choice of this particular word: "Perhaps the most important thesis of this book is the assertion that the Irish in the American Diaspora remain part of the totality of Irish history." American Diaspora? No mention in the conclusion. On the other hand the word "ghetto" is used liberally throughout the book to describe where the Irish lived in the United States. The word "refugees" is used frequently to describe Irish immigrants in the nineteenth century. Now these two words, "ghetto" and "refugees," practically add up to "diaspora" in popular culture given their association with the Jewish people in the twentieth century. Is it possible that the book's title was suggested by the publisher rather than McCaffrey? I think Martin Baumann's observation on "diaspora" as a 1990s phenomenon is sound. I did a quick Library of Congress subject search and they catalogued 47 items under "Jewish Diaspora" since 1975, most published in the late 1980s and 1990s. Marion R. Casey New York University | |
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What I did in my holidays...
Sometimes, when you are in a small tent with your children, and you are woken by the sound of the night time rain beating down, there is only one thing to do... Roll over, snuggle down, go back to sleep, and hope that everyone sleeps as long as possible in the morning. We awoke to a grey, flooded camp site... In the morning we did SOME of the things we had planned to do. We did visit a part of the Wall that the Roman Emperor Hadrian caused to be built across the narrow neck of (what is now) England, from Carlisle to Newcastle. Hadrian's Wall, now a 'world heritage site', remains extraordinary - a distinctive Roman structure, with distinctive Roman stonework, stretching for miles across the countryside. Much looted, over the centuries, of course. We were camped near a fourteenth century castle - near a gap in Hadrian's Wall. You could see at once that the castle had ben built with stones taken from the Wall. I was especially keen to visit the archaeological dig and the museum at Vindolanda - a major Roman fort and township, a 'vicus', a little way behind the Wall. There, a wonderful discovery, the archaeologists had discovered texts - everyday letters and military lists, written on wooden tablets, wonderfully preserved in the boggy conditions. The special rewards of archaeology in mud. The Roman soldiers worried about everyday things like dry socks (I can vouch for the importance of dry socks...) One of these texts gives us a new Latin word. In what seems to be a note about the military traditions of the natives one writer refers to the 'Brittunculi'. This word combines the word for the 'British' with the 'perjorative diminutive' - found still in English words drawn from Latin, like 'homunculus'. The Museum translates it as 'the wretched British', which seems a bit tame. I would suggest 'the nasty little British...' Continuities of imperialism..? [The texts have been published in Alan K. Bowman, Life and Letters on the Roman Frontier: Vindolanda and its people, British Museum, 1994. 'Brittunculi' appears on p. 106, where it is translated as 'the wretched British'. There are a number of Vindolanda sites on the Web.] The 'Irish' part of our journey was going to be a visit to 'Banna', another fort-site near Birdoswald. St. Patrick says that he was born in the 'vicus' of Bannaventae Berniae. This Banna is mentioned in the Ravenna Cosmography, and it has been suggested that 'Berniae' should be 'Berniciae' - the region north and south of Hadrian's Wall was known as Bernicia. There wasn't much to see through the rain - certainly no indication that Birdoswald was trading on its Patrick connections. So, I took my soggy children home... It is one of the mysteries of St. Patrick that no place on the island of Britain seems to have traded on its Patrick connections - compare the way in which any place with a Patrick connection in Ireland uses that to increase prestige and encourage pilgrimage. Already by the C7th century there was doubt about Patrick's birthplace - Muirchu, in his biography, says that he had established 'beyond doubt' that it was 'Ventre', Venta Silurum, Caerwent in Wales. Paddy O'Sullivan -- Patrick O'Sullivan Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies University of Bradford Bradford BD7 1DP Yorkshire England Patrick O'Sullivan Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora Irish-Diaspora list | |
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What I do on my holidays...
Each year I have my designated holiday fun book, carried everywhere with me to fill the doldrum moments... Last year it was K.M Elisabeth Murray, Caught in the Web of Words: James Murray and the Oxford English Dictionary, Yale Up, 1977 - which I recommend to all who love dictionaries. When I came to an exciting bit I would shout down to the family in the swimming pool, 'He's reached the letter D!' And every now and again the University (in this case, Oxford) would appoint yet another committee to enquire into Murray's slow progress - and yet again poor James Murray would have to go over the ground rules, which they had such difficulty understanding: that the purpose of the Dictionary was to describe usage, not prescribe... This year the holiday book is Anthony Grafton, The Footnote, a Curious History, Faber and Faber, 1997. A number of times this book has had me laughing out loud ('You've fine-tuned the footnote to a major networking device.' p. 13). But it has also helped me look at scholarly practice across a number of disciplines - and identifies one 'genuine paradox', which requires 'that one prove both that each sentence is original and that it has a source.' (p.143) My own footnotes have been criticised - and it is true that I do have a regrettable tendency to secrete little Borgesian essays in them. Is it possible to write a scholarly work that has no footnotes? Here it is the 'August Bank holiday weekend' - a time when, traditionally, the English drive to the seaside and sit in cars, eating fish and chips, whilst the rain cascades down the windscreen. Some traditions are sacred - so things will be quiet here for the next couple of days... Paddy O'Sullivan -- Patrick O'Sullivan Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies University of Bradford Bradford BD7 1DP Yorkshire England Patrick O'Sullivan Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora Irish-Diaspora list | |
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Re: Paddy's holiday reading
Paddy and others interested in dictionary-making might like to follow Murray's 'Caught in a web of words' (1977) with a book I read this summer: Simon Winchester's 'The surgeon of Crowthorne: a tale of murder, madness and the love of words', London:Viking/Penguin, 1998. It's about the relationship between Murray and one of the OED's most prolific contributors - a convicted American murderer confined in the English criminal lunatic asylum of Broadmoor. The book is rather self conscious in its writing style, but it presents a strange and fascinating story. As for a bizarre Irish angle: the murderer had a paranoid fear of the Irish who he was convinced were trying to murder him. This seems to have arisen out of an incident in which he was called upon to punish an Irish soldier during the American civil war. I've come across a case in a Lancashire asylum during the late 19th century of a patient also convinced he was being persecuted by the Irish - in this instance they were trying to rob rather than murder him. I wonder if 'Irish paranoia' was a feature of 19th-century English and American madness. Has anyone else encountered it? Re: Is Pat O'Farrell a New Zealander? O'Farrell discusses his own and his family's identity in his semi-autobiographical 'Vanished kingdoms: the Irish in Australia and New Zealand' (1990). In the introduction to that he describes himself as an Irish colonial of New Zealand birth and Australian citizenship - in other words, his identity is mixed. I don't think he would describe himself as a New Zealander, pure and simple. As an antipodean of Irish parentage myself, I understand his attitude. But I'm a second-generation returner who has lived longer in Ireland and England than I did in Australia - so what does that make me? I'm certainly not English and I don't feel Australian anymore and nor am I Irish. I think my identity is more to do with being an historian, an academic and a woman than with belonging to a particular nationality. But then I do spend my life studying things Irish!! Elizabeth Malcolm Irish Studies/Liverpool | |
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Thomas O'Malley Baines -papal soldier, Feninan, Australian prisoner,
California Kearneyite From: Patrick Maume. When working on the MAYO NEWS for the beginning of the twentieth century some time ago I came across a reprint from the autobiography of Thomas C. O'Malley Baines, born in Mayo (his family were evicted during the Famine). Baines describes his experiences in the Papal Army. On his return to Ireland, like many other Papal veterans, he secured a position on the Dublin Fire Brigade and became involved in the IRB. He was arrested & sent out to Western Australia with other Fenian convicts on the HOUGOMONT (the last boatload of convicts ever sent to Australia - incidentally I am related to another of them, John Sarsfield Casey alias "The Galtee Boy"). On his release he went to California, where he spent the rest of his life. The autobiography as published in the MAYO NEWS ends with his arrival in California, but according to editorial comment he was active in the California labour movement known as "Kearneyites" and spent his latter years as a pedler - he used to sell his autobiography, which he called MY LIFE IN TWO HEMISPHERES, in pamphlet form as he travelled around. He was married and had at least one son. He died in 1899. I wonder if members of the list can help me on a few points: (1) Has anyone else made use of this autobiography to your knowledge? (2) Do you know of any libraries which have the original pamphlet - perhaps in California? Does it end where the MAYO NEWS version ends or does it go on to cover his activities in California? (3) Is there any literature on the Kearneyites? I had heard of them before in connection with their agitation against Chinese labour which led to restrictions on Chinese immigration to California. I remember seeing a Nast cartoon showing a Kearneyite pulling a Chinaman by the pigtail. (Incidentally, did you see the recent NEW YORKER article on Nast which argued that he was not really anti-Irish or anti-Catholic but merely opposed to those who fostered divisiveness under the pretext of multiculturalism? Take a bow, Baron Munchausen.) (4) Has anyone got any ideas about where I might be able to publish this as a select document? I was thinking of getting it on disk when I have the time (I'm just finishing a book, hence the continued delay of my promised account of the Parnell Summer School) and seeing if IRISH HISTORICAL STUDIES might be interested. I'd be grateful for any help received. Yours sincerely, Patrick Maume | |
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The American Conference for Irish Studies (ACIS) has established a
committee of five (Monica Brennan, Kathryn Conrad, Adele Dalsimer, Susan Harris and Mary Helen Thuente) to 're-evaluate the mission and procedures of ACIS'. This committee is to produce a report by October 31 1998. All members of ACIS have now been sent a copy of the ACIS bylaws, plus a questionnaire and machine readable 'test form'. It is also possible to send comments by email to adhoc-camp[at]news.vill.edu Though emails and other mailings will not be responded to individually. As a very distant member of ACIS I am not sure that my views are directly relevant here. But I do know that some members of ACIS have expressed disquiet at the low priority given in the past to 'Irish Diaspora Studies'. The first question in the re-evaluation committee's questionnaire asks your opinion of this statement... 'The ACIS mission statement, as stated in section I.A, is adequate.' In fact, if you read the ACIS bylaws, there is no mention of the Irish outside Ireland or of Irish Diaspora Studies. You really have to push the sense of the words to find some niche into which you might put what we do. Bylaw I.A speaks only of 'Irish Studies', undefined - and you have to look on, to bylaw II.A, to find some definition of ACIS's activities and interests - 'aspects of Irish history, literature, the arts, sociology...' etc. I suppose you could argue that what we do is an 'aspect' of 'Irish history...' etc. But would it not be better if ACIS's Mission Statement included a welcoming acceptance of its members' interest in Irish Diaspora Studies? And would not a positive interest in Irish Diaspora Studies be welcomed by ACIS members who are not professional academics? Patrick O'Sullivan -- Patrick O'Sullivan Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies University of Bradford Bradford BD7 1DP Yorkshire England Patrick O'Sullivan Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora Irish-Diaspora list | |
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Ir-D Indian Councillor in nineteenth-century Derry | |
Patrick Maume | |
From: Patrick Maume
To whom it may concern: I was reading Rev. Cleary's famous expose of Orangeism, THE ORANGE SOCIETY recently (produced in Australia in the late 1890s, warning against the growth of Orangeism in Australia by reference to the Irish experience). The author I think was an Irish priest born in Wexford - anyone got more information about him? The book is an useful source of information on the more violent and discreditable aspects of nineteenth-centruy Orangeism, though marred by the fact that it is modelled on other nineteenth-century Catholic condemnations of secret societies - i.e. seeing it as being tightly controlled by a small group of desigining conspirators at the top, and thus unwilling to treat the rank and file as anything more than passive dupes. Thus for example he refers to William Johnston of Ballykilbeg's defiance of the Party Processions Act without realising that the official Orange leadership actually tried to stop Johnston for fear of antagonising the government. One item which particularly struck me was on p.391 of the 1897 edition, where he describes anti-Catholic discrimination on Derry and Belfast corporations. He complains about the denial of Catholic representation in Derry as shown by the defeat of a respectable Catholic merchant in a ward previously represented by "an Indian quack doctor of unsavoury reputation, who used to walk in the Apprentice Boys' Processions". Anyone know anything about this man? If he was really an Indian he must have been one of the earliest non-white elected representatives in Ireland. A reminder that Ireland experienced immigration as well as emigration, long before the Celtic Tiger ... Best wishes, Patrick. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:39:09 -0800 From: Michael Mullan Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Migration & mental health - another perspective Further to the discussion on health and migration - a report in the Madrid daily El PaÌs (3 March), headed 'Friendship is the best preventative of depression', quotes Manuel Trujillo, the Spanish-born head of psychiatry at Bellevue Hospital, New York, interviewed (by Albor RodrÌguez) at the First Psychiatric Updating Course organised in Madrid by the Castillo del Pino Foundation. It might be of interest to those on the Ir-D list interested in Irish migrant mental health issues. With acknowledgements - (c) El PaÌs 1998 - I offer a partial translation... Q - Are there mental illnesses directly attributable to the experience of migration? A - The immigrant has to deal with stresses arising from the loss of roots and the barriers of acculturation, that is, he/she has to adapt to new forms of social behaviour, which means an extra stress factor. In providing psychiatric services to this part of the community, it is often the case that cultural barriers increase the frequency of mis-diagnosis, and of patient/doctor misunderstandings, so that the treatment response is not always appropriate. In the USA there are some 180 different migrant communities, the largest being the Hispanics, who account for 25 per cent of those using our services. We have developed a programme which we call 'cultural competency', which tries to identify the features of their culture and to create a climate in which the patent can feel valued. Q - Is there any particular mental illness associated with Hispanics? A - For example, you get some presenting with untypical variants of conventional disorders; the Hispanic schizophrenic has a different symptomatic profile. Likewise manic-depressives. The Hispanic patient with depression is less likely to admit 'I feel sad', which is one of the indicators of depression, but may instead suffer from somatic disturbances (physical pains, lethargy, tiredness). There are some protective features in Hispanic culture: the emphasis on the family, on unconditional supportive friendship. But there are aggravating features too, like the stress women suffer because of male chauvinism. Q - Could 'emigrant nostalgia' be described as an illness? A - No, it's a marvellous, natural feeling which serves to maintain one's link with what has been left behind. It's a gradual mechanism for the resolution of loss. But if one gets stuck at that point, and is unable to get over the feeling of mourning, this can lead to illness. .................................. end MICHAEL MULLAN Research writer, public relations unit University of Bradford, West Yorkshire BD7 1DP, UK Tel. 01274- 233087 Fax 01274- 235460 | |
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