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17 January 2001 06:25  
  
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2001 06:25:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D March 2-4 GRIAN Conference MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.56A44d01331.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D March 2-4 GRIAN Conference
  
Forwarded on behalf of

Meaghan Marie Dwyer

Subject: March 2-4 GRIAN Conference

A Reminder: "Tradition and Ireland" is only 2 weeks away!

"Tradition and Ireland: Revision, Performance, Representation"

2-4 March 2001

The Third Annual Interdisciplinary Conference on Irish Studies
at New York University?s Glucksman Ireland House organized by The GRÍAN
Association

Plenary lecture by John Waters, newly appointed Assistant Professor of
Irish Literature at New York University

"Tradition and Ireland" also includes roundtable discussions, panel
presentations on Irish drama, literature, and the diaspora, as well as
musical performances. A preliminary schedule of events appears on the
GRÍAN website, www.grian.org

To register for "Tradition and Ireland," send the registration
form with conference fee of $15.00 to GRÍAN at the address below (the
form is available on the GRÍAN website). For more information,
contact Karen Overbey at kareneileen[at]excite.com or Jason Drake at
201-422-0741.

Glucksman Ireland House is located at One Washington Mews (5th Avenue
between 8th Street and Waverly Place) on the campus of New York University.

GRÍAN is also proud to announce the publication of the first issue of
Foilsiú, its semi-annual journal of Irish Studies. The first issue,
available for delivery in early March, will include selected proceedings
from GRÍAN?s first two conferences, "We Irish?" and "Technologies in
Transition."

The GRÍAN Association is a newly established not-for-profit organization
dedicated to the study, sponsorship, and enrichment of Irish Studies. In
addition to the journal and annual conference, GRÍAN organizes cultural
events in and around New York City. Comprised of emerging scholars,
artists, and playwrights, GRÍAN is working toward reuniting academia
with the art that fuels scholarly study.

The GRÍAN Association
131 Riverside Drive #12C
New York, NY 10024

All materials ©2001 by The GRÍAN Association. All rights reserved.

Please visit our website at: www.grian.org
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17 January 2001 13:44  
  
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:44:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Scotland's Shame MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.4CEE51228.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Scotland's Shame
  
Mary Hickman
  
From: Mary Hickman
Subject: Re: Ir-D Tom Gallager

Dear paddy

I am currently reading Scotland's Shame and would be
interested in Owen Dudley Edwards review. Can I get it
anywhere?

Best, Mary

Professor Mary J.Hickman
Director, Irish Studies Centre
University of North London
166-220 Holloway Road
London N7 8DB

Tel: +44-(0)20-7607 2789
Fax: +44-(0)20-7753 7069
email: m.j.hickman[at]unl.ac.uk
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17 January 2001 19:25  
  
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2001 19:25:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Gangs of New York 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.5FfBE5C1333.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Gangs of New York 2
  
Tyler Anbinder
  
From: Tyler Anbinder
Subject: Re: Ir-D Gangs of New York

I can't resist a comment on Gangs of New York. I read the script last
summer, just before they went to Rome to start shooting. The film is set
in Five Points, the infamous Irish-Americn slum in New York, and I am just
finishing a book on Five Points that will be out in September. There were
certainly many things I would have done differently, but the script was
not "ahistorical." In fact, it was clear that Scorsese has read
everything about old New York he could get his hands on. He has
compressed and condensed many things, and that
is difficult for a historian to swallow. But overall I thought he did a
pretty good job. As far as the contents of this list is concerned, the
way in which he most deviated from fact was to give the anti-Irish
nativist gangs far more political power, especially in Five Points, than
they ever had, so as to make the eventual triumph of the Irish seem more
dramatic. The Irish are portrayed in the movie as universally good, and
the natives as almost always evil, again not something a historian is
likely to condone. And I am sure a lot more changes have been made to
the script since I read it, meaning that there may be even more errors
than there were before. But if this movie gets people talking about the
adversity the Irish overcame in becoming Americans, it will do a lot more
good than the relatively minor factual errors I saw in the script.

Tyler Anbinder
History Department
George Washington University
Washington DC

On Sat, 17 Jan 2001 irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

>
> From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> Our attention has been drawn to the following item from the latest issue
of
> "Sight and Sound", the film magazine - about Martin Scorsese's current
> production "Gangs of New York".
>
> "Based on Herbert Asbury's 1928 non-fiction study of the rise of immigrant
> (mostly Irish) gangs in the slums of mid-19th century Manhattan, the
script
> tells of rising hood Amsterdam Vallon's efforts to avenge the death of his
> father at the hands of Bill 'The Butcher' Poole, respective heads of rival
> gangs the Dead Rabbits and the Native Americans." Leonardo DiCaprio plays
> Amsterdam.
>
> In fact there has been much discussion, off-list, about this film - and a
> similar one, an Irish version of The Godfather, planned by Jim Sheridan.
> Someone who has seen the Scorsese script describes it as 'a total
> ahistorical mess but will make a good gang movie heavy on the
> ultraviolence...'
>
> My own feeling is that the movie industry is now awash with Mafia scripts,
> particularly after the success of the television series The Sopranos - and
> there are orchestrated complaints from the Italian-American community.
>
> So, cross out 'Italian', insert 'Irish'...
>
> But I guess there are stories to tell here. A dear friend of mine was
> brought up in 1920s Chicago - his local god (or Godfather) was Dion
> O'Bannion (1892-1924). You may recall the old gangster movies - O'Bannion
> was the one who owned the flower shop. He was murdered, classic gang
style,
> in his shop. One man took O'Bannion's hand in greeting, and held it
whilst
> two others pumped bullets into him.
>
> His gang limped on without him - it was the remnants of his gang that was
> massacred on St. Valentine's Day, 1929. O'Bannion's gang was, I recall,
of
> a mixture of backgrounds - Irish, German, Italian. The usual view is that
> the Irish were driven out of organised crime by the Italians. But there
is
> a long Irish-American literary tradition about the Irish-American
gangster.
>
> P.O'S.
>
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17 January 2001 21:24  
  
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:24:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Scotland's Shame 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.70Cdce1229.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Scotland's Shame 2
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Mary,

The reference is

Owen Dudley Edwards
'Is the Cardinal Anti-Catholic? A Review Essay'
Scottish Affairs, No. 33, Autumn 2000, pp 1-22.

I must add that the essay represents Owen at his most ornate, convoluted and
verbose. I am very sad about the attack on Tom Gallagher - because I am
very fond of both men. The attack goes on for a few pages - it is one of
those attacks that moves forward by quoting the text attacked. And the
attack ends with a paragraph which is very difficult to understand. But the
upshot is that it seems to accuse Tom Gallagher of playing fast and loose
with his quotations. Which is impossible.

I understand that there is a certain amount of puzzlement in Scotland about
the vehemence of Owen's article. To give the discission some Irish Diaspora
content... I had wondered if the anti-Catholicism described in Scotland's
Shame - or asserted by Scotland's Shame - might not be in some of its forms
a manifestation of anti-Irish prejudice. But I would await comment from
Scotland...

P.O'S.



- -----Original Message-----
Sent: 17 January 2001 13:44
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Ir-D Scotland's Shame



From: Mary Hickman
Subject: Re: Ir-D Tom Gallager

Dear paddy

I am currently reading Scotland's Shame and would be
interested in Owen Dudley Edwards review. Can I get it
anywhere?

Best, Mary

- --
Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit

Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 284 1580
Fax International +44 870 284 1580

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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18 January 2001 06:44  
  
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:44:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Kenny, American Irish MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.4b18a0b21231.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Kenny, American Irish
  
Cymru66@aol.com
  
From: Cymru66[at]aol.com
Subject: Request

Dear Paddy,
I have lost the details of Kevin Kenny's book on the Irish in America.
Perhaps he could let us know the exact title, ISBN etc.
Thanks,
John Hickey
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18 January 2001 06:44  
  
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:44:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Scotland's Shame 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.7D1E11232.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Scotland's Shame 3
  
Danny McGowan
  
From: "Danny McGowan"

Subject: Re: Ir-D Scotland's Shame 2

Tom Gallagher's article in 'Scotland's Shame' seemed fairly reasonable to
me. I haven't read Owen Dudley Edwards article yet, but I am aware Ruth
Dudley Edwards seems to be something of an apologist for the Orange Order
these days...

Partly this seems to me because of the trend of 'revisionist' history in
Ireland to demonise Irish nationalism. Partly it appears a form of pluralist
'identity' politics which legitimises the Orange Order as expressing a form
of Protestant working class identity.
Conservative Catholics employ the pluralist argument as well, in 'Scotland's
Shame' and elsewhere. While this may be attractive theory the problem is
that not only do neither care too much about pluralism for their opponents,
but those they claim to represent are at best bored and embarrassed, if not
offended by their obsessions.

I would certainly agree that anti-Catholicism in Scotland stems from
anti-Irish racism. There is plenty of evidence that makes the link. The
Church of Scotland's infamous 'The Menace of the Irish Race to our Scottish
Nationality' in 1923 is pretty explicit about this..

One reason why Catholicism rather than Irish ethnicity identifies the
Diaspora in Scotland today is because the Scottish hierarchy itself was
anti-immigrant Irish. Scottish Catholic historiography (e.g.The Innes
Review) is heavily weighted towards medieval/Stuart periods. This
emphasises the Church's own aristocratic and indigenous pedigree, despite
the fact that around 80% of Catholics in Scotland are of immigrant Irish
origin, and experience disproportionately lower socio-economic indicators.

Norman Tebiit's 'cricket test' had precedents in Scottish football. My
recent favourite is the correspondence in the Edinburgh press last year
accusing Hibernian FC of 'sectarianism' for incorporating a Harp into their
club badge...The Irish flag flying at Celtic Park also received critical
comment from columnists in the same (Edinburgh) press last year. Its not
just a Glasgow thing. Scottish regiments in Ireland are also notorious

Gerry Finn, again in Scotland's Shame? and elsewhere deconstructs pretty
well the mythology of 'sectarianism', which obscures what is essentially
racism. He has the same pluralist framework however, which I think creates
problems in his argument

I could write forever on this, but instead will let folk know that my own
review of Scotland's Shame? is I believe to be published in the next
Scottish Labour History Journal, while a more substantial chapter on
'Scotland, Sectarianism and the Irish Diaspora' is to appear in a
forthcoming collection on the 'Political Economy of Modern Scotland',
edited by Neil Davidson. I will let people know when...

Oh, and I write from a Marxist perspective

Danny



- ----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 9:24 PM
Subject: Ir-D Scotland's Shame 2


>
> From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> Mary,
>
> The reference is
>
> Owen Dudley Edwards
> 'Is the Cardinal Anti-Catholic? A Review Essay'
> Scottish Affairs, No. 33, Autumn 2000, pp 1-22.
>
> I must add that the essay represents Owen at his most ornate, convoluted
and
> verbose. I am very sad about the attack on Tom Gallagher - because I am
> very fond of both men. The attack goes on for a few pages - it is one of
> those attacks that moves forward by quoting the text attacked. And the
> attack ends with a paragraph which is very difficult to understand. But
the
> upshot is that it seems to accuse Tom Gallagher of playing fast and loose
> with his quotations. Which is impossible.
>
> I understand that there is a certain amount of puzzlement in Scotland
about
> the vehemence of Owen's article. To give the discission some Irish
Diaspora
> content... I had wondered if the anti-Catholicism described in Scotland's
> Shame - or asserted by Scotland's Shame - might not be in some of its
forms
> a manifestation of anti-Irish prejudice. But I would await comment from
> Scotland...
>
> P.O'S.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: 17 January 2001 13:44
> To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
> Subject: Ir-D Scotland's Shame
>
>
>
> From: Mary Hickman
> Subject: Re: Ir-D Tom Gallager
>
> Dear paddy
>
> I am currently reading Scotland's Shame and would be
> interested in Owen Dudley Edwards review. Can I get it
> anywhere?
>
> Best, Mary
>
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18 January 2001 07:44  
  
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:44:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Kenny, American Irish 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.F03e4fA1230.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Kenny, American Irish 2
  
There you go...

The American Irish: A History
xix + 328pp, 2 maps, 16 illustrations, full bibliography
London and New York: Longman, 2000. ISBN: 0 582-27817- PPR

The book covers the full period since 1700 and is part of
the Longman series "Studies in Modern History" aimed at
students and general readers as well as specialists.

P.O'S.
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18 January 2001 19:05  
  
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2001 19:05:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Gangs of New York 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.b5ea78e61334.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Gangs of New York 3
  
Matt O'Brien
  
From: "Matt O'Brien"
Subject: Re: Ir-D Gangs of New York 2

Speaking of films about Irish gangs in New York, you might check out "State
of Grace," where the Irish Hell's Kitchen mob is being pushed out by the
more sophisticated Italian mob during the 1970s. It's based on a true story
(how closely I do not know), and there are some great subthemes about
Irish-American mobility and consequent loss of cohesion within the gang.
Matt O'Brien

- -----Original Message-----
From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Date: Saturday, February 17, 2001 2:41 PM
Subject: Ir-D Gangs of New York 2


>
>From: Tyler Anbinder
>Subject: Re: Ir-D Gangs of New York
>
>I can't resist a comment on Gangs of New York. I read the script last
>summer, just before they went to Rome to start shooting. The film is set
>in Five Points, the infamous Irish-Americn slum in New York, and I am just
>finishing a book on Five Points that will be out in September. There were
>certainly many things I would have done differently, but the script was
>not "ahistorical." In fact, it was clear that Scorsese has read
>everything about old New York he could get his hands on. He has
>compressed and condensed many things, and that
>is difficult for a historian to swallow. But overall I thought he did a
>pretty good job. As far as the contents of this list is concerned, the
>way in which he most deviated from fact was to give the anti-Irish
>nativist gangs far more political power, especially in Five Points, than
>they ever had, so as to make the eventual triumph of the Irish seem more
>dramatic. The Irish are portrayed in the movie as universally good, and
>the natives as almost always evil, again not something a historian is
>likely to condone. And I am sure a lot more changes have been made to
>the script since I read it, meaning that there may be even more errors
>than there were before. But if this movie gets people talking about the
>adversity the Irish overcame in becoming Americans, it will do a lot more
>good than the relatively minor factual errors I saw in the script.
>
>Tyler Anbinder
>History Department
>George Washington University
>Washington DC
>
>
>
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18 January 2001 21:05  
  
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2001 21:05:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Test 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.F64231326.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Test 3
  
Technical Test 3.

Please Ignore.

P.O'S.
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18 January 2001 21:05  
  
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2001 21:05:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D State of Grace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.4aa51323.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D State of Grace
  
Basic information about 'State of Grace' is available at the usual movie Web
sites... For example...

http://www.reel.com/movie.asp?MID=3041

EXTRACT BEGINS>>>
State of Grace (1990)
Starring: Sean Penn, Gary Oldman
Director: Phil Joanou
Synopsis: Dark, violent crime drama sleeper about a hardened Irish hood
returning to N.Y.C.'s Hell's Kitchen. Critics praised its deep
characterization, multi-layered plot. For genre fans seeking bleak yet
engrossing viewing.
Runtime: 134 minutes
MPAA Rating: R
Genres: Action, Drama

Close Movie Matches

GoodFellas (1990)
Starring: Robert De Niro, Ray Liotta
Director: Martin Scorsese
Epic-length portrait of life inside equally brutal Mafia family.

Laws of Gravity (1992)
Starring: Peter Greene, Edie Falco
Director: Nick Gomez
Extremely gritty, dialogue-heavy drama about small-time Brooklyn hustlers.

Mean Streets (1973)
Starring: Harvey Keitel, Robert De Niro
Director: Martin Scorsese
Rough-edged portrait of street-level toughs in Manhattan's Little Italy.

Creative Movie Matches

A Better Tomorrow (1986)
Starring: Chow Yun-Fat, Ti Lung
Director: John Woo
Hong Kong Gangster Classic has similar web of loyalties, betrayals.
EXTRACT ENDS>>>

See also...

http://mrshowbiz.go.com/reviews/moviereviews/movies/StateofGrace_1990.html

Etc. etc.

P.O'S.
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18 January 2001 21:05  
  
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2001 21:05:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D John Steinbeck MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.5e16de1324.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D John Steinbeck
  
Our attention has been drawn to the following item from...
Belfast Telegraph (17 Feb)...

"Research has uncovered that John Steinbeck's family came from Ballykelly,
Co. Londonderry. ... Verbal Arts Centre [in Londonderry] director Sam
Burnside said he had been attempting to confirm for some time that John
Steinbeck had Ulster roots. "During a recent visit to the Steinbeck Centre
I met Katie Rodger, interim director there. She was able to confirm that
John Steinbeck's mother Olive was descended from the Hamiltons of
Ballykelly" he explained. Mr Burnside said a lecture may be presented at
the Derry centre next year as part of the celebrations to mark the 100th
anniversary of Steinbeck's birth. "The lecture will be delivered by Dr
Susan Shillingham, Professor of English and Director of the Centre for
Steinbeck Studies. It will explore some of the cultural influences on
Steinbeck's work, particularly as mediated through his mother's influence,"
he added."

P.O'S.
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19 January 2001 06:05  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2001 06:05:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Gringoes, Dunbrody MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.ba551327.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Gringoes, Dunbrody
  
Forwarded with permission from...

THE IRISH EMIGRANT
Editor: Liam Ferrie February 19, 2001 Issue No.733

2 items...

1.
> > > > > > > > > THE IRISH ABROAD < < < < < < < < <

- - From Sao Paulo Kieran Gartlan tells me that he has launched Brazil's
first portal for the foreign community at http://www.gringoes.com
which aims to be a one-stop source of useful information, services
and contacts, as well as a virtual community where users can make new
friends and organize activities. The site is initially based in Sao
Paulo, but following strong demand, will soon be expanding to other
cities in Brazil and Latin America.

2.

- - Taoiseach Bertie Ahern was present at the launch of the "Dunbrody",
a replica of an emigrant ship, at New Ross last Sunday. The original
"Dunbrody" was built in Quebec in 1845 for a wealthy New Ross family,
and the idea of a successor, which took nearly ten years to complete,
was initiated by Sean Reidy, chief executive of the John F. Kennedy
Trust. The three-masted vessel was built by a workforce of local
trainees under the guidance of experienced shipwrights. Fittingly it
was Jean Kennedy Smith, former US Ambassador to Ireland, who formally
named the vessel and was on board as it sailed from dry dock to
quayside. She is of course, the sister of the late US President, who
had made an emotional visit to New Ross during his presidency. The
"Dunbrody" cost some IR4m to build, almost twice as much as
anticipated and a further IR700k is required if it is to be made
seaworthy. As there is no sign of additional funding it seems likely
that the ship will remain tied up at the quayside in New Ross, where
it will house a permanent exhibition telling the story of Irish
emigration.
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19 January 2001 06:05  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2001 06:05:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Irish language decline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.a27b1325.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Irish language decline
  
Our attention has been drawn to the following item...

Forwarded with permission from...

THE IRISH EMIGRANT
Editor: Liam Ferrie February 12, 2001 Issue No.732


A report in Monday's Irish Times claimed that the study of Irish
[language]in
second-level schools is at crisis level. The report is from the
National Council for Curriculum and Assessment (NCAA), which is
responsible for curriculum development and advising the Minister for
Education. It refers to the poor results attained by most students
in Irish and the lack of enthusiasm for the language shown by
students, despite many hours spent by students in Irish classes. One
point made was the high level of D3 passes gained by second-level
students in the Leaving Cert. A D3 in Irish is a minimum requirement
for entry into most college courses. Some educators fear that if
this entry requirement were dropped, interest in the subject would
fall to nothing. The NCAA intends to carry out a full review of the
subject, including a measurement of proficiency in Irish, with an
evaluation of listening, reading, speaking and writing. Tests will
be carried out by first and fifth-year students and will also involve
a survey of students on their attitudes to their use of Irish in
school and other contexts.
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19 January 2001 12:00  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2001 12:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Irish Seminar 2001: Contemporary Ireland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.23Ea4F1329.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Irish Seminar 2001: Contemporary Ireland
  
Forwarded for information...

Subject: Irish Seminar 2001: Contemporary Ireland

The Keough-Notre Dame Centre presents the Irish Seminar 2001: Contemporary
Ireland, Newman House, Dublin, 3-27 July

Please find complete details of the Irish Seminar on the Notre Dame website
at http://www.nd.edu/~irishstu

Application forms are also available at
http://www.nd.edu/~irishstu/seminar.shtml

Please contact the following email address if you require any additional
information
Irish Seminar
irishsem.irishsem.1[at]nd.edu
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2001 12:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Gangs of New York 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.bBaDE1328.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Gangs of New York 4
  
MacEinri, Piaras
  
From: "MacEinri, Piaras"
Subject: RE: Ir-D Gangs of New York 3

TG4 here in Ireland recently broadcast a documentary based on the life of
Vincent 'Mad Dog' Coll, a late 1920s Irish gangster in New York who came to
the inevitable sticky end. Much interesting photo footage, newspaper
cuttings and interviews. Worth a look if it turns up anywhere else - it's
made in Irish, subtitled in English.

Piaras Mac Einri

> -----Original Message-----
> From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
>
>
>
> From: "Matt O'Brien"
> Subject: Re: Ir-D Gangs of New York 2
>
> Speaking of films about Irish gangs in New York, you might
> check out "State
> of Grace," where the Irish Hell's Kitchen mob is being pushed
> out by the
> more sophisticated Italian mob during the 1970s. It's based
> on a true story
> (how closely I do not know), and there are some great subthemes about
> Irish-American mobility and consequent loss of cohesion
> within the gang.
> Matt O'Brien
>
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2001 12:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Irish in US textbooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.4fB5DF1330.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Irish in US textbooks
  
A recent article by one of our Yorkshire-based contacts will be of
interest...

Sidney Brown
'The textbook furore in the 1920s: The Irish-American angle'
in
Paradigm, Vol 2, Issue 2, Oct 2000, pp 12-18.

Paradigm, the Journal of the Textbook Colloquium, is edited by
John Issitt

Sidney Brown has written theses on the Irish Question in Anglo-American
Relations and on Daniel Florence Cohalan, and is now beginning to mine these
and develop his interests further.

This article takes a rumbustious, and necessarily brief, look at
Irish-American efforts to shoulder their way into an appropriate place in US
history textbooks, efforts that were aided by the 'fife and drum',
anti-British tradition of those textbooks. 'I want our school children
taught that our forefathers were right and the British were wrong on the
subject of taxation...'

P.O'S.

- --
Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit

Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 284 1580
Fax International +44 870 284 1580

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2001 14:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D PERSPECTIVES ON THE GLOBAL PAST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.bEfbA1336.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D PERSPECTIVES ON THE GLOBAL PAST
  
The following call for book proposals has been brought to our attention...

Announcing a New Series in World History from University of Hawai`i Press

PERSPECTIVES ON THE GLOBAL PAST

Contemporary globalization requires today's historians to develop new
perspectives and approaches for the construction of national and regional
histories and to increase their awareness and understanding of the wider
world. World history encompasses these changes in a particularly
meaningful way, and this series is an effort to extend the field in new
directions.

"Perspectives on the Global Past" welcomes a variety of analytical
approaches and the methods and insights of different disciplines. Books
may focus on specific cultural groups and regions or range comparatively
worldwide in analysis of large-scale processes, cross-cultural encounters,
and global themes.

Series Editors

JERRY H. BENTLEY, professor of history, University of Hawaii at
Manoa.
Author of "Old World Encounters: Cross-Cultural Contacts and Exchanges in
Pre-Modern Times" (New York, 1993) and coauthor of "Traditions and
Encounters: A Global Perspective on the Past" (Boston, 1999). He is the
editor of the Journal of World History.

ANAND YANG, professor of history, University of Utah. Author of
"Bazaar India: Markets, Society, and the Colonial State in Gangetic Bihar"
(1998) and "The Limited Raj: Agrarian Relations in Colonial India, Saran
District, 1793-1920" (1989). He was the editor of the Journal of Asian
Studies from 1995-2000.

We are now inviting submissions from interested authors. Your proposal may
take the form of

--a preliminary letter briefly describing the project; or
--a formal prospectus: a descriptive cover letter (include information
about length and illustrations), table of contents, introduction (if
available), sample chapter, and c.v.

Please send two copies of your prospectus or inquiry, one to each series
editor:

Jerry H. Bentley
History Department
Sakamaki A203
University of Hawaii-Manoa
Honolulu, HI 96822
jbentley[at]hawaii.edu

Anand Yang
Department of History
University of Utah
380 S. 1400 E. Rm. 211
Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0311
anand.yang[at]m.cc.utah.edu

For more information on University of Hawai`i Press and a complete list of
titles, please see our website at .
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2001 14:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Seamus O'Flattery 6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.a62Bc01335.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Seamus O'Flattery 6
  
noel gilzean
  
From: "noel gilzean"
Subject: Re: Ir-D Seamus O'Flattery 5

>From Noel Gilzean
rosslare51[at]hotmail.com

So what about those of us who don't get an invitation? Should we give up now
or will we get to go to the ball anyway.

Noel


From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Ir-D Seamus O'Flattery 5
Date: Fri 16 Jan 2001 11:25:00 +0000

From: Hilary Robinson
Subject: Re: Ir-D Seamus O'Flattery 3

Yeah, I got this too (hate to burst the balloon, paddy) -i assumed it was a
pretty inclusive trawl - maybe they just go through all the archives, and
if you've written more than 100 words in one posting they consider you
intelligent??!!
(can't believe i'm getting so cynical)
Hilary

>From: C McCaffrey
>Subject: Re: Ir-D Seamus O'Flattery
>
>I just got the same message this morning. It came in twice to my mailbox.
>Who are these people? I went onto the web site and the chief story was on
>OJ
>Simpson!
>Anyone else get this?
>Carmel
>
>
>irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:
>
>> Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>>
>> I have received the following...
>>
>> OOOOh I do feel important. At last someone has noticed how clever I am.
>>
>> Does anyone know more about IM-UR? What is the story here?
>>
>> P.O'S.
>>
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19 January 2001 17:00  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2001 17:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Irish Studies, Boston MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.CdBCCA1339.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Irish Studies, Boston
  
Forwarded on behalf of
savager[at]bc.edu
Robert Joseph Savage, Jr.
Subject: This week in Irish Studies


February 19
Poetry Seminar: Nuala N? Dhomhnaill, Connolly House, 4:00.

February 23
Seminar: Margaret Kelleher, National University of Ireland, Maynooth.
Woman's Land League Fiction:
The 19th century Novel as a Historical Source. Connolly House 1:00 p.m.

February 25
Irish Studies Film Series: Opening. American premier of Country, written and
directed by Kevin Liddy.
Introduction by Lance Pettitt, Center for Irish Studies, St. Mary's College,
Strawberry Hill, London.
Q&A with writer and director Kevin Liddy follows screening. West Newton
Cinema, 1296 Washington Street
Newton, (617-964-6060) 7:00 p.m.

----------------------
Robert J. Savage
Associate Director
Irish Studies
Boston College
savager[at]bc.edu
(617) 552-3966

web site: www.bc.edu/irish
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2001 17:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Seamus O'Flattery 7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.0Da54661337.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0101.txt]
  
Ir-D Seamus O'Flattery 7
  
C McCaffrey
  
From: C McCaffrey
Subject: Re: Ir-D Seamus O'Flattery 6

Noel,
This ball is not worth going to I think. When I went into their site after
I
got my 'invitation' I was a little bemused/insulted that they wanted me to
contribute to the rubbish I read there! God only knows where they got our
names
from. Some random means probably.
Carmel

irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

> From: "noel gilzean"
> Subject: Re: Ir-D Seamus O'Flattery 5
>
> >From Noel Gilzean
> rosslare51[at]hotmail.com
>
> So what about those of us who don't get an invitation? Should we give up
now
> or will we get to go to the ball anyway.
>
> Noel
>
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