>From Email Patrick O'Sullivan


Forwarded on behalf of
William Kaufman

Call for Contributors:
Encyclopaedia of British-American Relations, ABC-Clio Publishers

We are seeking contributors for a forthcoming 2-volume project, The
Encyclopaedia of British-American Relations (Oxford: ABC-Clio).
The project is designed to provide readily-accessible information
about the most important historical, cultural and political relations
between Britain and the Americas from the first encounter up to the
present day; the subject matter is multidisciplinary. The unifying factor
for such a wide-ranging, ambitious project is the crucial focus on
the British-American connection at the heart of each entry. Scholars
working in any area of British contact with North America, South
America, or the Caribbean who are interested in contributing to this
project are encouraged to contact one of the editors, with an indication
of your research interests and academic background. We welcome
enquiries from postgraduate students. Please do not send attachments.

Dr. Will Kaufman, Reader in English and American Studies,
University of Central Lancashire, UK. E-mail: wkaufman[at]uclan.ac.uk.

Dr. Heidi Macpherson, Senior Lecturer in English,
University of Central Lancashire, UK. E-mail: hrsmacpherson[at]uclan.ac.uk.

From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Dymphna=20Lonergan?=
Subject: Re: Ir-D US Civil War flag 2

Thanks for all help so far, especially that of mo
chara Brian McGinn who has tapped into his connections
in the US. I fell better that I was not the only one
who was having difficulty with the translation.

Dymphna Lonergan
Flinders University of South Australia

From: "Brian McGinn"
Subject: Re: Ir-D US Civil War flag

Discussion of translation can be found in the Forum on the Daltai na Gaeilge
site:
http://www.daltai.com/daltai.htm
Under Forums, go to Archive and scroll down to US Civil War/Union Brigade
Motto, 10/16/2000.

At some point, unknown to me, the 'clash of spears' motto came to be
associated with the Irish Brigade, whose 69th Regiment adopted its present
motto, "Gentle When Stroked, Fierce When Provoked."

Brian McGinn
Alexandria, Virginia

>From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Forwarded on behalf of

Dr Jacqueline Belanger
Centre for Editorial and Intertextual Research
School of English
Cardiff University
Cardiff CF10 3XB

Submissions are invited for an edited collection of essays on the
topic of ?Ireland and the Novel in the Nineteenth Century?. The aim
of the collection is to rethink and expand definitions of the Irish
novel in the period 1800-1900, and to interrogate current critical
discourse surrounding nineteenth century Irish fiction. The
collection will explore the generic, critical, and ideological
implications involved in such a rethinking of definitions of the
Irish novel, will investigate sub-genres or authors hitherto
overlooked during this period, and will examine the relationship
between the print cultures of Britain and Ireland (as well as others
such as North America, Australia, and South Africa) specifically as
it relates to the representation of Ireland in nineteenth century
fiction and to the production and reception of Irish novels.

In the first instance, please submit a detailed abstract of 600 words
outlining a proposal for an essay. The deadline for submitting
abstracts is 1 February 2002. Selection for inclusion in the
collection will be made on the basis of these abstracts. Essays will
be c6,000 words in length and completed essays will be due by 15
January 2003.

Queries and abstracts should be directed to:
Dr Jacqueline Belanger
Centre for Editorial and Intertextual Research
School of English
Cardiff University
Cardiff CF10 3XB
{ HYPERLINK "mailto:belangerj[at]cardiff.ac.uk" }belangerj[at]cardiff.ac.uk.
Dr Jacqueline Belanger
Centre for Editorial and Intertextual Research
School of English, Communication, and Philosophy
Cardiff University
Cardiff CF10 3XB
Wales, UK
Tel: +44 (0)29 2087 6339

>From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

This is an Ir-D Housekeeping item, and a request for views and feedback...

We now have our Database of the Irish-Diaspora list Archive up and running.
I have distributed the message again, because we have a number of new
members who should be aware of this resource.

Indeed, we have just passed our birthday - it is 4 years since the Ir-D list
was launched in November 1997, and we have in our database 3 full years of
Ir-D discussion, from November 1998 inwards.

I now want to turn to an issue that has been at the back of my mind for some
time...

Very early on we established the policy, or the tradition, that new members
do NOT send messages to the list introducing themselves. This was partly a
consequence of the way we grew up - from a small core who knew each other?s
work. But also I have found that such introductions are a waste of time -
it is the person who introduces themselves most fulsomely who drops out,
disgusted, after a week or so.

We did look at the possibility of establishing DIDI, the Database of Irish
Diaspora Interests - some sort of virtual place where Irish-Diaspora list
members could deposit a little note about themselves and their interests.
But, with the technology previously available to us, this was impossible
chore.

We have now developed simpler ways of doing things. We can set up
procedures where each individual member of the Irish-Diaspora list can make
such a note available, and be responsible for its accuracy and for updating
it.

We need to make policy decisions...

Policy A: go on as we have done. No DIDI, no Database of Irish Diaspora
Interests. People just chime into Ir-D discussions, when the mood takes
them.

Policy B: we establish DIDI, the Database of Irish Diaspora Interests. But
there is no requirement that people contribute information about themselves
to the database. We defend the right to lurk.

Under Policy B, we have two choices...

Policy B (1): the DIDI database should be PUBLIC, freely available on the
Web - in effect advertisements for ourselves and our work.

Policy B (2): the DIDI database should be PRIVATE, accessible only to
members of the Irish-Diaspora list. We would most probably keep the
database in our Restricted zone at irishdiaspora.net.

There are also some technical options...

Technical Option i - A Write-In or Copy and Paste procedure, whereby Ir-D
members would simply type or copy the note about themselves into the DIDI
database. This would need full Web access, and some Ir-D members may have
technical problems with that.

Technical Option ii - an Email procedure, whereby Ir-D members would send
their note as an email, FROM the email address by which they are known to
the Ir-D list, to a special DIDI email address. This special email address
would then automatically place the note in the DIDI database. We can set it
up so that a new email FROM your email address automatically deletes the
previous one - so that the updating of your note is in your hands.

I'd like some thoughts, please, before we go any further with this.

Paddy O'Sullivan

- --
Patrick O'Sullivan

Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/
Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net
Yorkshire Playwrights http://www.yorkshireplaywrights.com

Personal Fax National 0709 236 9050
Fax International +44 709 236 9050

Home Address
30 Randall Place
Heaton
Bradford BD9 4AE
Yorkshire
England

>From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

DIRDA - the Database of the Ir-D Archive...

New members will wish to be aware of this resource...

Go to
Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net

Click on Special Access, at the top of the screen.

Username irdmember
Password morash

That gets you into our RESTRICTED area.

Click on RESTRICTED, and you have access to EFORUM: DIRDA.

Click on that and you are in the first page of the database/archive.

You will see that we have 3 full years of Ir-D messages, November
1998 onwards, in a searchable database. Most recent first.

Log out by clicking on irishdiaspora.net at the top of the screen.

The database is currently restricted to Irish-Diaspora list members, and
maybe the occasional bona fide scholar or researcher.

Note that there are still a few untidynesses to sort out. Ir-D members may
occasionally find that the DIRDA database is offline and not available, as
the software is re-designed and fine-tuned.

We are grateful to Stephen Sobol, of SobolStones,
http://www.sobolstones.com
for his support and the development of this facility.

Patrick O'Sullivan

- --
Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit

Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/
Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net

Personal Fax National 0709 236 9050
Fax International +44 709 236 9050

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England

>From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Note the special areas of interest, including Irish-American authors.

P.O'S.

Forwarded for information...

On behalf of
James Donnelly at jsdonnel[at]facstaff.wisc.edu;
Thomas Archdeacon at tjarchde[at]facstaff.wisc.edu;
Michael Patrick Gillespie at michael.gillespie[at]marquette.edu;
Robert Mandel, Director of the University of Wisconsin Press, at
ramandel[at]facstaff.wisc.edu


Robert Mandel, Director of the University of Wisconsin Press, has announced
the launch of a new series that will publish studies devoted to the
examination of contemporary Irish writing and society. The Irish Literature
and Culture Series?under the general editorship of Michael Patrick
Gillespie?marks an important stage in the growth of the press. It
complements the Irish and Irish American History series edited by James
Donnelly and Thomas Archdeacon, and it taps the growing interest evinced by
a range of scholars in the field of Irish Studies.

The University of Wisconsin Press enjoys a strong national and international
reputation that will in itself attract the interest of top scholars who wish
to have their work associated with it. Working with the series advisory
board, made up of some of the most distinguished scholars working in this
field, the editor will seek out the best manuscripts and book proposals
available that match the high standards already evident to anyone who
surveys the current list of books in print at Wisconsin. This will entail
examining the widest range of scholarship, writing, and research in this
field with no prescriptive or exclusionary guidelines prohibiting
consideration of certain studies.

At the same time, since the University of Wisconsin Press has already
established pre-eminence in many areas relevant to the new Irish Literature
and Culture Series, the series will endeavor to draw upon the strengths
evident in the list of the press? books in print. In particular it will
give particular attention to the acquisition of scholarship, research and
writing in Irish Studies in the following areas:

Film Gay/Lesbian Studies

The works of James Joyce Plastic and performing arts

Biographies/memoirs Irish American authors


For more information contact the series editors: James Donnelly at
jsdonnel[at]facstaff.wisc.edu; Thomas Archdeacon at tjarchde[at]facstaff.wisc.edu;
Michael Patrick Gillespie at michael.gillespie[at]marquette.edu; or Robert
Mandel, Director of the University of Wisconsin Press, at
ramandel[at]facstaff.wisc.edu

From: Marion Casey

This might be of interest...

Subject: Fwd: FLAG INSCRIPTION
To: marion.casey[at]nyu.edu
From: Chuck Laverty
Subject: FLAG INSCRIPTION

Hi, Marion ... All's well here and trust with you as well... Am replying to
you directly now knowing exactly if the inquiry came from Ms Lonergan or
from Irish Diaspora ... In any event, yes, I can shed some light on the
subject, having helped restore/preserve three of the original 69th
regimental colors of the civil war (the 69th, 63rd and the 88th NY
Infantry). Each of them are inscribed (all embroidered by Tiffany) "Riam
nar druid o sbairn lann." Poetically, that's "Shrink not from the clash
of spears," while in literal translation it would be something like "...who
never retreated from the clash of spears..." I have lots more to add, but
must rush off now ... Kindly see if the flag owner would contact me
directly, to enable us here to add to an inventory of such flags. Thanks
in advance. Regards, Marion.
Charlie Laverty, Irish Brigade Assn, Fort Schuyler, Bronx NY

From: David Rose
Subject: Re: Ir-D I dream of DIDI

Very much in favour of DIDI and the possibility of contacting and being
contacted by others. My own fields (Wilde in London & Paris, and the Irish
in Paris 1870-1900) are ones that overlap many others, and I am happy to
exchange notes.

D.C. Rose
Department of English/Centre for Irish Studies
Goldsmiths College
University of London
SE14 6NW

- --On irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

>
>
>> From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> This is an Ir-D Housekeeping item, and a request for views and feedback...
>
> We now have our Database of the Irish-Diaspora list Archive up and
> running. I have distributed the message again, because we have a number
> of new members who should be aware of this resource.
>
> Indeed, we have just passed our birthday - it is 4 years since the Ir-D
> list was launched in November 1997, and we have in our database 3 full
> years of Ir-D discussion, from November 1998 inwards.
>
> I now want to turn to an issue that has been at the back of my mind for
> some time...
>
> Very early on we established the policy, or the tradition, that new
> members do NOT send messages to the list introducing themselves. This was
> partly a consequence of the way we grew up - from a small core who knew
> each otherís work. But also I have found that such introductions are a
> waste of time - it is the person who introduces themselves most fulsomely
> who drops out, disgusted, after a week or so.
>
> We did look at the possibility of establishing DIDI, the Database of Irish
> Diaspora Interests - some sort of virtual place where Irish-Diaspora list
> members could deposit a little note about themselves and their interests.
> But, with the technology previously available to us, this was impossible
> chore.
>
> We have now developed simpler ways of doing things. We can set up
> procedures where each individual member of the Irish-Diaspora list can
> make such a note available, and be responsible for its accuracy and for
> updating it.
>
> We need to make policy decisions...
>
> Policy A: go on as we have done. No DIDI, no Database of Irish Diaspora
> Interests. People just chime into Ir-D discussions, when the mood takes
> them.
>
> Policy B: we establish DIDI, the Database of Irish Diaspora Interests.
> But there is no requirement that people contribute information about
> themselves to the database. We defend the right to lurk.
>
> Under Policy B, we have two choices...
>
> Policy B (1): the DIDI database should be PUBLIC, freely available on the
> Web - in effect advertisements for ourselves and our work.
>
> Policy B (2): the DIDI database should be PRIVATE, accessible only to
> members of the Irish-Diaspora list. We would most probably keep the
> database in our Restricted zone at irishdiaspora.net.
>
> There are also some technical options...
>
> Technical Option i - A Write-In or Copy and Paste procedure, whereby Ir-D
> members would simply type or copy the note about themselves into the DIDI
> database. This would need full Web access, and some Ir-D members may have
> technical problems with that.
>
> Technical Option ii - an Email procedure, whereby Ir-D members would send
> their note as an email, FROM the email address by which they are known to
> the Ir-D list, to a special DIDI email address. This special email
> address would then automatically place the note in the DIDI database. We
> can set it up so that a new email FROM your email address automatically
> deletes the previous one - so that the updating of your note is in your
> hands.
>
> I'd like some thoughts, please, before we go any further with this.
>
> Paddy O'Sullivan
>
> --
> Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> Email Patrick O'Sullivan
> Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/
> Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net
> Yorkshire Playwrights http://www.yorkshireplaywrights.com
>
> Personal Fax National 0709 236 9050
> Fax International +44 709 236 9050
>
> Home Address
> 30 Randall Place
> Heaton
> Bradford BD9 4AE
> Yorkshire
> England
>

From: Dean_Holt[at]att.net
Subject: Early Modern Irish Diaspora

Can anyone recommend some primary sources or articles on
the Irish diaspora(on both sides of the Atlantic) in the
Early Modern period? I will be teaching a course on the
Tudor/Stuart era in the Spring and would like to talk
about internal and external migrations for one class.
Thanks,
Patrick Holt
St. Basil College
195 Glenbrook Road
Stamford, CT 06902-3099
phone: (203)324-4578
Fax: (203)357-7681
Dean_Holt[at]worldnet.att.net

From: Ultan Cowley
Subject: Book launch, Manchester

Dear members

My thanks to Paddy for announcing this event and agreeing to attend.

Unfortunately his announcement to the Irish-Diaspora list was accompanied by
an extract from the
publisher's press release. This press release is a disaster!

I don't know what the experience of other published Ir-D. members may have
been, but this press release has been the bane of my existence for a number
of months now. Despite several attempts to have it expunged, and
publisher's agreements to do so,it continues to surface to my intense
irritation and shame.

This one originated with a Wolfhound PR person who has since left the
company, which itself has just been acquired by another publishing house.

For a start, my book is sub-titled,'A History (not a Celebration) of the
Irish Navvy'; I see little to celebrate in the largely traumatic experience
of Irish migrant labourers.

The use of terms such as 'ragged', 'footsoldier', 'useless', 'drunken',
'underclass', and 'colonial riches' tells us a great deal about their
author but they neither accurately describe the Irish navvy nor reflect my
writings on the subject.

I apologise for any hurt which this travesty may have caused and appeal to
members not to be influenced by it.

Sincerely


Ultan Cowley

From: "joan hugman"

Subject: Re: Ir-D I dream of DIDI

Paddy
B(ii) sounds sensible to me. I must say I would appreciate
access to such a list..
I hope it doesnt generate too much extra work...
best
joan

Subject:
Ir-D I dream of DIDI Date: Thu 15 Nov 2001 06:00:00
+0000 From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Reply-to:
irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk To:
irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk



>From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

This is an Ir-D Housekeeping item, and a request for views and feedback...

We now have our Database of the Irish-Diaspora list Archive up and running.
I have distributed the message again, because we have a number of new
members who should be aware of this resource.

Indeed, we have just passed our birthday - it is 4 years since the Ir-D list
was launched in November 1997, and we have in our database 3 full years of
Ir-D discussion, from November 1998 inwards.

I now want to turn to an issue that has been at the back of my mind for some
time...

Very early on we established the policy, or the tradition, that new members
do NOT send messages to the list introducing themselves. This was partly a
consequence of the way we grew up - from a small core who knew each otherÆs
work. But also I have found that such introductions are a waste of time -
it is the person who introduces themselves most fulsomely who drops out,
disgusted, after a week or so.

We did look at the possibility of establishing DIDI, the Database of Irish
Diaspora Interests - some sort of virtual place where Irish-Diaspora list
members could deposit a little note about themselves and their interests.
But, with the technology previously available to us, this was impossible
chore.

We have now developed simpler ways of doing things. We can set up
procedures where each individual member of the Irish-Diaspora list can make
such a note available, and be responsible for its accuracy and for updating
it.

We need to make policy decisions...

Policy A: go on as we have done. No DIDI, no Database of Irish Diaspora
Interests. People just chime into Ir-D discussions, when the mood takes
them.

Policy B: we establish DIDI, the Database of Irish Diaspora Interests. But
there is no requirement that people contribute information about themselves
to the database. We defend the right to lurk.

Under Policy B, we have two choices...

Policy B (1): the DIDI database should be PUBLIC, freely available on the
Web - in effect advertisements for ourselves and our work.

Policy B (2): the DIDI database should be PRIVATE, accessible only to
members of the Irish-Diaspora list. We would most probably keep the
database in our Restricted zone at irishdiaspora.net.

There are also some technical options...

Technical Option i - A Write-In or Copy and Paste procedure, whereby Ir-D
members would simply type or copy the note about themselves into the DIDI
database. This would need full Web access, and some Ir-D members may have
technical problems with that.

Technical Option ii - an Email procedure, whereby Ir-D members would send
their note as an email, FROM the email address by which they are known to
the Ir-D list, to a special DIDI email address. This special email address
would then automatically place the note in the DIDI database. We can set it
up so that a new email FROM your email address automatically deletes the
previous one - so that the updating of your note is in your hands.

I'd like some thoughts, please, before we go any further with this.

Paddy O'Sullivan

- --
Patrick O'Sullivan

Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/
Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net
Yorkshire Playwrights http://www.yorkshireplaywrights.com

Personal Fax National 0709 236 9050
Fax International +44 709 236 9050

Home Address
30 Randall Place
Heaton
Bradford BD9 4AE
Yorkshire
England


Joan Hugman
Department of History, Armstrong Building,
University of Newcastle NE1 7RU Tel 0191 222 6701

From: Kevin Kenny
Subject: Re: Ir-D I dream of DIDI

>From Kevin Kenny, kennyka[at]bc.edu

Re: DIDI personal data

Dear Patrick

I'm in two minds about this. I'm glad the technology is
available and grateful, as ever, for your expertise and
energy on this matter. On the other hand, I wonder if we
really need personal introductions, and who would read
them.

If one of us on the list is interested in another,
then we can simply E-mail that person or, if they have an
institutional affiliation or personal website, get our
information that way.

The one area where I think putting individual biographies
on DIDI might be useful is to provide a partial "Who's Who"
of the field. For that purpose I think the data should be
public not private.

Finally, Technical Option i (A Write-In or Copy and Paste >
procedure, whereby Ir-D members would simply type or copy >
the note about themselves into the DIDI database) would
make most sense in an ideal world, reducing your workload
and allowing users more control. But some/many won't have
the technology or the expertise, and those who do may
nonetheless be deterred by the task.

Option ii (E-mail submissions) is probably more practical,
and while it would be more work for you, users could at
least update their own records as you suggest.

KK

----------------------
Kevin Kenny
Associate Professor of History
Department of History, Boston College
140 Commonwealth Avenue, Chestnut Hill, MA 02467
Phone(617)552-1196; Fax(617)552-3714; kennyka[at]bc.edu
www2.bc.edu/~kennyka/

From: Dean_Holt[at]att.net

Subject: Re: Ir-D I dream of DIDI
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:28:20 +0000

The DIRDA database has been wonderfully useful, especially for
those of us who missed the first few years of your
discussions. I would vote for Policy B(2) it would allow
list members a comprehensive place to look for
collaborators, conference participants, etc...without
leading to some people's concerns about general privacy.
Those off-list who want to find out about someone could
then ask directly, without having free access to the
information. It seems that this list has a wonderfully
impressive collection of lurkers and it would be nice for
list members to know a little something about them.

Patrick Holt
Saint Basil College
195 Glenbrook Road
Stamford, CT 06902

- --
St. Basil College - Ukrainian
Catholic Seminary
195 Glenbrook Road
Stamford, CT 06902-3099
phone: (203)324-4578
Fax: (203)357-7681
Dean_Holt[at]worldnet.att.net

>
>
> >From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> This is an Ir-D Housekeeping item, and a request for views and feedback...
>
> We now have our Database of the Irish-Diaspora list Archive up and
running.
> I have distributed the message again, because we have a number of new
> members who should be aware of this resource.
>
> Indeed, we have just passed our birthday - it is 4 years since the Ir-D
list
> was launched in November 1997, and we have in our database 3 full years of
> Ir-D discussion, from November 1998 inwards.
>
> I now want to turn to an issue that has been at the back of my mind for
some
> time...
>
> Very early on we established the policy, or the tradition, that new
members
> do NOT send messages to the list introducing themselves. This was partly a
> consequence of the way we grew up - from a small core who knew each
other?s
> work. But also I have found that such introductions are a waste of time -
> it is the person who introduces themselves most fulsomely who drops out,
> disgusted, after a week or so.
>
> We did look at the possibility of establishing DIDI, the Database of Irish
> Diaspora Interests - some sort of virtual place where Irish-Diaspora list
> members could deposit a little note about themselves and their interests.
> But, with the technology previously available to us, this was impossible
> chore.
>
> We have now developed simpler ways of doing things. We can set up
> procedures where each individual member of the Irish-Diaspora list can
make
> such a note available, and be responsible for its accuracy and for
updating
> it.
>
> We need to make policy decisions...
>
> Policy A: go on as we have done. No DIDI, no Database of Irish Diaspora
> Interests. People just chime into Ir-D discussions, when the mood takes
> them.
>
> Policy B: we establish DIDI, the Database of Irish Diaspora Interests.
But
> there is no requirement that people contribute information about
themselves
> to the database. We defend the right to lurk.
>
> Under Policy B, we have two choices...
>
> Policy B (1): the DIDI database should be PUBLIC, freely available on the
> Web - in effect advertisements for ourselves and our work.
>
> Policy B (2): the DIDI database should be PRIVATE, accessible only to
> members of the Irish-Diaspora list. We would most probably keep the
> database in our Restricted zone at irishdiaspora.net.
>
> There are also some technical options...
>
> Technical Option i - A Write-In or Copy and Paste procedure, whereby Ir-D
> members would simply type or copy the note about themselves into the DIDI
> database. This would need full Web access, and some Ir-D members may have
> technical problems with that.
>
> Technical Option ii - an Email procedure, whereby Ir-D members would send
> their note as an email, FROM the email address by which they are known to
> the Ir-D list, to a special DIDI email address. This special email
address
> would then automatically place the note in the DIDI database. We can set
it
> up so that a new email FROM your email address automatically deletes the
> previous one - so that the updating of your note is in your hands.
>
> I'd like some thoughts, please, before we go any further with this.
>
> Paddy O'Sullivan
>
> --
> Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> Email Patrick O'Sullivan
> Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/
> Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net
> Yorkshire Playwrights http://www.yorkshireplaywrights.com
>
> Personal Fax National 0709 236 9050
> Fax International +44 709 236 9050
>
> Home Address
> 30 Randall Place
> Heaton
> Bradford BD9 4AE
> Yorkshire
> England
>

From: Marion Casey
Subject: Re: Ir-D Early Modern Irish Diaspora


I recommend the infinitely fascinating but neglected book by Thomas M.
Truxes, Irish-American Trade, 1660-1783 (Cambridge: Cambridge
University Press, 1988).

Marion R. Casey
Department of History
New York University

- ----- Original Message -----
From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:19 pm
Subject: Ir-D Early Modern Irish Diaspora

>
> From: Dean_Holt[at]att.net
> Subject: Early Modern Irish Diaspora
>
> Can anyone recommend some primary sources or articles on
> the Irish diaspora(on both sides of the Atlantic) in the
> Early Modern period? I will be teaching a course on the
> Tudor/Stuart era in the Spring and would like to talk
> about internal and external migrations for one class.
> Thanks,
> Patrick Holt
> St. Basil College
> 195 Glenbrook Road
> Stamford, CT 06902-3099
> phone: (203)324-4578
> Fax: (203)357-7681
> Dean_Holt[at]worldnet.att.net
>
>

From: "Maria McGarrity"
Subject: Re: Ir-D Early Modern Irish Diaspora

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- -----Original Message-----
From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:28 PM
Subject: Ir-D Early Modern Irish Diaspora


>
>From: Dean_Holt[at]att.net
>Subject: Early Modern Irish Diaspora
>
>Can anyone recommend some primary sources or articles on
>the Irish diaspora(on both sides of the Atlantic) in the
>Early Modern period? I will be teaching a course on the
>Tudor/Stuart era in the Spring and would like to talk
>about internal and external migrations for one class.
>Thanks,
>Patrick Holt
>St. Basil College
>195 Glenbrook Road
>Stamford, CT 06902-3099
>phone: (203)324-4578
>Fax: (203)357-7681
>Dean_Holt[at]worldnet.att.net
>

From: Dymphna Lonergan
dymphna_1[at]yahoo.com]

Subject: Re: FLAG INSCRIPTION

Thank you everyone for your input into solving the
puzzle of riam nar druid o sbarin lann. I know now
that it means 'don't shrink from the clash of swords'.
Now that I know that I can see that riam is riamh
(ever). The word sbarin had me puzzled but it appears
that it is saparin (which still puzzles me). It's
always difficult to analyse something you haven't seen
yourself. In my case this came through as one of the
many translation requests I get on my site:
http://memoryireland.com The enquirer merely offered
the information that he owned the flag. Having seen
the wealth of information available on the
Irish-Disapora network and with the difficulty in
deciphering the spelling I thought the best thing was
to put it out there in the hope that someone has
already invented this wheel. I'm glad I did. As for my
own area of interest this is more evidence of the
Irish language in use outside Ireland. The problems
with spelling may well point to haste in construction
of the flag or the distance from a checking resource.
All very interesting for social historians no doubt. I
have put the enquirer in touch with those who were
interested in how he came by the flag so I hope those
connections happen. Once again buíochas as an cabhair
'thanks for the help'.

slán

Dymphna Lonergan
Flinders University of South Australia

>From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Our attention has been drawn to the following article...

P.O'S.

Title: "Oh, God, what a pity!": The Irish Brigade at Fredericksburg and the
creation of myth

Summary: Warren discusses how the Irish Brigade came to occupy a lofty
and often romantic place in the history of the Battle of Fredericksburg.
Postwar writings of brigade veterans David Power Conyngham, Father William
Corby, and St. Clair A. Mulholland forged a body of literature remarkable
for its propensity to mythologize Irish participation in the Civil War.

Source: Civil War History
Date: 09/01/2001
Citation Information: ISSN: 0009-8078; Vol. 47 No. 3; p. 193-221
Author(s): Craig A Warren

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From: Elizabeth Malcolm
Subject: Re: Ir-D Early Modern Irish Diaspora


Dear Patrick,

The following may help:

T. O'Connor (ed.), 'The Irish in Europe, 1580-1815', Dublin, 2000
(Several articles on the Irish in 16th/17th century France and Spain)

S. O'Callaghan, 'To Hell or Barbados', Dingle: Brandon, 2000 (Rather
popular on the 17th-century Caribbean)

D.H. Akenson, 'If the Irish Ran the World: Montserrat, 1630-1730',
Liverpool, 1997

P. O'Sullivan, 'Patterns of Migration' vol.1, Leicester, 1992
(Articles by Fitzgerald on the Irish in England 1560-1640 and by
McGurk on the Wild Geese)

D.B. Quinn, 'Ireland and America: their Early Associations,
1500-1640, Liverpool, 1991 (THE authority on early Irish-American
connections)

Elizabeth Malcolm
Melbourne

>From: Dean_Holt[at]att.net
>Subject: Early Modern Irish Diaspora
>
>Can anyone recommend some primary sources or articles on
>the Irish diaspora(on both sides of the Atlantic) in the
>Early Modern period? I will be teaching a course on the
>Tudor/Stuart era in the Spring and would like to talk
>about internal and external migrations for one class.
>Thanks,
>Patrick Holt
>St. Basil College
>195 Glenbrook Road
>Stamford, CT 06902-3099
>phone: (203)324-4578
>Fax: (203)357-7681
>Dean_Holt[at]worldnet.att.net
>

Professor Elizabeth Malcolm Tel: +61-3-8344 3924
Department of History Fax: +61-3-8344 7894
University of Melbourne email: e.malcolm[at]unimelb.edu.au
Parkville, Victoria
Australia 3010

From: "Padraic"

Subject: Re: Ir-D I dream of DIDI

Dear Patrick

I would go for option A: chime in when you want to; no boring self
aggrandising biopics!

Padraic Finn

- ----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:00 AM
Subject: Ir-D I dream of DIDI


>
>
> >From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> This is an Ir-D Housekeeping item, and a request for views and feedback...
>
> We now have our Database of the Irish-Diaspora list Archive up and
running.
> I have distributed the message again, because we have a number of new
> members who should be aware of this resource.
>
> Indeed, we have just passed our birthday - it is 4 years since the Ir-D
list
> was launched in November 1997, and we have in our database 3 full years of
> Ir-D discussion, from November 1998 inwards.
>
> I now want to turn to an issue that has been at the back of my mind for
some
> time...
>
> Very early on we established the policy, or the tradition, that new
members
> do NOT send messages to the list introducing themselves. This was partly a
> consequence of the way we grew up - from a small core who knew each others
> work. But also I have found that such introductions are a waste of time -
> it is the person who introduces themselves most fulsomely who drops out,
> disgusted, after a week or so.
>
> We did look at the possibility of establishing DIDI, the Database of Irish
> Diaspora Interests - some sort of virtual place where Irish-Diaspora list
> members could deposit a little note about themselves and their interests.
> But, with the technology previously available to us, this was impossible
> chore.
>
> We have now developed simpler ways of doing things. We can set up
> procedures where each individual member of the Irish-Diaspora list can
make
> such a note available, and be responsible for its accuracy and for
updating
> it.
>
> We need to make policy decisions...
>
> Policy A: go on as we have done. No DIDI, no Database of Irish Diaspora
> Interests. People just chime into Ir-D discussions, when the mood takes
> them.
>
> Policy B: we establish DIDI, the Database of Irish Diaspora Interests.
But
> there is no requirement that people contribute information about
themselves
> to the database. We defend the right to lurk.
>
> Under Policy B, we have two choices...
>
> Policy B (1): the DIDI database should be PUBLIC, freely available on the
> Web - in effect advertisements for ourselves and our work.
>
> Policy B (2): the DIDI database should be PRIVATE, accessible only to
> members of the Irish-Diaspora list. We would most probably keep the
> database in our Restricted zone at irishdiaspora.net.
>
> There are also some technical options...
>
> Technical Option i - A Write-In or Copy and Paste procedure, whereby Ir-D
> members would simply type or copy the note about themselves into the DIDI
> database. This would need full Web access, and some Ir-D members may have
> technical problems with that.
>
> Technical Option ii - an Email procedure, whereby Ir-D members would send
> their note as an email, FROM the email address by which they are known to
> the Ir-D list, to a special DIDI email address. This special email
address
> would then automatically place the note in the DIDI database. We can set
it
> up so that a new email FROM your email address automatically deletes the
> previous one - so that the updating of your note is in your hands.
>
> I'd like some thoughts, please, before we go any further with this.
>
> Paddy O'Sullivan
>
> --
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>
> Email Patrick O'Sullivan
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>
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