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16 November 2001 16:00  
  
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D DIDI 7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.cc4b2614.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D DIDI 7
  
William H. Mulligan, Jr
  
From: "William H. Mulligan, Jr"
Subject: Re: Ir-D I dream of DIDI

I support B (2), although I have no problem with B (1).

Bill Mulligan
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2642  
16 November 2001 16:00  
  
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D TROWEL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.6233487B2613.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D TROWEL
  
Forwarded on behalf of Trowel UCD
trowelucd[at]yahoo.com

Subject: request for theses lists


To Whom it Concerns,

We at Trowel, the student archaeological journal of
University College, Dublin are looking for lists of
archaeological theses with an Irish character. If any
of the students in your department are currently
researching a thesis on any aspect of Irish
archaeology, could you please forward the details to
us for inclusion in our upcoming volume. If you know
of anyone in your department who would be willing to
write a piece for our journal, please include their
details also.

Thank you for your co-operation.
The Editors
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2643  
19 November 2001 06:00  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D The Wish to Return 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.1f5fB2618.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D The Wish to Return 2
  
Subject: Re: Ir-D The Wish to Return
From: "michael j. curran"

Paddy
the research you mentioned is partly based on a number of approx. 100
elderly UK based Irish who were invited to Mayo last September by the Mayo
Emigrant Liaison Committee. I met some of them at a conference in Castlebar.
They enjoyed the obvious welcome, but it may not be wise to entice them to
return. The organiser was Kevin Bourke at 0035387 2439748.

Some descriptive/qualitative work with Irish elders has been done by
campaigning agencies but I wonder would it come under the remit of stringent
research.

Best wishes

Michael J. Curran
> Irish Diaspora Project
> Dept. of Psychology
> Aras an Phiarsaigh
> Trinity College
> Dublin 2 Ireland

(curranmj[at]tcd.ie)
> Phone : 003531 6081886, 0044 2890 839569(home in Belfast)
> FAX: 003531 6712006, 00442890 836042(home)
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2644  
19 November 2001 06:00  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D CFP Economics of Famine and Famine Relief MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.04C52616.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D CFP Economics of Famine and Famine Relief
  
Richard Jensen
  
From: "Richard Jensen"
Subject: Fw: CfP: The Economics of Famine and Famine Relief: Perspectives
from the Past and Present


- ----- Original Message -----
From:
Subject: CfP: The Economics of Famine and Famine Relief:


THE ECONOMICS OF FAMINE AND FAMINE RELIEF:
PERSPECTIVES FROM THE PAST AND PRESENT

A conference on "The Economics of Famine and Famine Relief:
Perspectives from the Past and Present", with funding from the
European Science Foundation, is being planned for late spring
2003 at a location in Europe still to be finalised. Papers on a
broad range of topics (e.g. markets and famine, famine and state
socialism, entitlements and famine, the problem of agency in
administering relief, short- and longer-term demographic
consequences, famine and war, the changing role of infectious
disease, the role of medical technology, urbanisation and famine,
transport/trade and famine, migration and famine) are envisaged.
New research on twentieth-century famines is particularly
welcome, but it is hoped to cover a wide field, both
chronologically and geographically.

Proposals for papers on historical and modern famines, from both
economists and other social scientists, are welcome. For further
info. write to Cormac Ó Gráda, University College, Dublin,
Ireland at cormac.ograda[at]ucd.ie.
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2645  
19 November 2001 06:00  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D DIDI 8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.0Ac0Fc2617.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D DIDI 8
  
  
From:
Subject: Re: Ir-D DIDI 2

Dear Paddy, I should like to support B(1)-on the basis of 'freely have we
received, freely give' yet with the traditional Ulsterman's caution -I
wonder how free is free? Best regard John McGurk.

- ----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:00
Subject: Ir-D DIDI 2


>
> From: "joan hugman"
>
> Subject: Re: Ir-D I dream of DIDI
>
> Paddy
> B(ii) sounds sensible to me. I must say I would appreciate
> access to such a list..
> I hope it doesnt generate too much extra work...
> best
> joan
>
> Subject:
> Ir-D I dream of DIDI Date: Thu 15 Nov 2001 06:00:00
> +0000 From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Reply-to:
> irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk To:
> irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
>
>
>
> >From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> This is an Ir-D Housekeeping item, and a request for views and feedback...
>
> We now have our Database of the Irish-Diaspora list Archive up and
running.
> I have distributed the message again, because we have a number of new
> members who should be aware of this resource.
>
> Indeed, we have just passed our birthday - it is 4 years since the Ir-D
list
> was launched in November 1997, and we have in our database 3 full years of
> Ir-D discussion, from November 1998 inwards.
>
> I now want to turn to an issue that has been at the back of my mind for
some
> time...
>
> Very early on we established the policy, or the tradition, that new
members
> do NOT send messages to the list introducing themselves. This was partly a
> consequence of the way we grew up - from a small core who knew each
otherÆs
> work. But also I have found that such introductions are a waste of time -
> it is the person who introduces themselves most fulsomely who drops out,
> disgusted, after a week or so.
>
> We did look at the possibility of establishing DIDI, the Database of Irish
> Diaspora Interests - some sort of virtual place where Irish-Diaspora list
> members could deposit a little note about themselves and their interests.
> But, with the technology previously available to us, this was impossible
> chore.
>
> We have now developed simpler ways of doing things. We can set up
> procedures where each individual member of the Irish-Diaspora list can
make
> such a note available, and be responsible for its accuracy and for
updating
> it.
>
> We need to make policy decisions...
>
> Policy A: go on as we have done. No DIDI, no Database of Irish Diaspora
> Interests. People just chime into Ir-D discussions, when the mood takes
> them.
>
> Policy B: we establish DIDI, the Database of Irish Diaspora Interests.
But
> there is no requirement that people contribute information about
themselves
> to the database. We defend the right to lurk.
>
> Under Policy B, we have two choices...
>
> Policy B (1): the DIDI database should be PUBLIC, freely available on the
> Web - in effect advertisements for ourselves and our work.
>
> Policy B (2): the DIDI database should be PRIVATE, accessible only to
> members of the Irish-Diaspora list. We would most probably keep the
> database in our Restricted zone at irishdiaspora.net.
>
> There are also some technical options...
>
> Technical Option i - A Write-In or Copy and Paste procedure, whereby Ir-D
> members would simply type or copy the note about themselves into the DIDI
> database. This would need full Web access, and some Ir-D members may have
> technical problems with that.
>
> Technical Option ii - an Email procedure, whereby Ir-D members would send
> their note as an email, FROM the email address by which they are known to
> the Ir-D list, to a special DIDI email address. This special email
address
> would then automatically place the note in the DIDI database. We can set
it
> up so that a new email FROM your email address automatically deletes the
> previous one - so that the updating of your note is in your hands.
>
> I'd like some thoughts, please, before we go any further with this.
>
> Paddy O'Sullivan
>
> --
> Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> Email Patrick O'Sullivan
> Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/
> Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net
> Yorkshire Playwrights http://www.yorkshireplaywrights.com
>
> Personal Fax National 0709 236 9050
> Fax International +44 709 236 9050
>
> Home Address
> 30 Randall Place
> Heaton
> Bradford BD9 4AE
> Yorkshire
> England
>
>
> Joan Hugman
> Department of History, Armstrong Building,
> University of Newcastle NE1 7RU Tel 0191 222 6701
>
>
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2646  
19 November 2001 14:00  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D NACBS Panel British Intellectuals and Ireland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.64aD4F2621.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D NACBS Panel British Intellectuals and Ireland
  
This message is forwarded on behalf of...
Douglas Kanter
Graduate Student
University of Chicago

Note: NACBS = North American Conference on British Studies
See
http://www.nacbs.org/

If anyone is interested, please contact Douglas directly...

P.O'S.


From: dnkanter[at]midway.uchicago.edu

Is anyone interested in putting together a panel for the 2002 NACBS on
"British Intellectual Engagement with Ireland"? I would like to present a
paper
on British intellectuals and the Repeal agitation, 1834-1848. I would also
be happy to hear from a pre-existing panel looking for another paper, if
mine would be a good fit. Please contact me directly at
dnkanter[at]midway.uchicago.edu.

Douglas Kanter
Graduate Student
University of Chicago
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2647  
19 November 2001 14:00  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D The Wish to Return 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.8DD0ed2620.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D The Wish to Return 3
  
Brennan Donal
  
From: Brennan Donal
donal.brennan[at]dublincorp.ie
Subject: Re Wish to return home



Hi Patrick

Just saw Anne O'Connor's intended research area. I am not sure if FIS
included
my M.SC in Social Work thesis entitled "Who Cares for the Irish?", 1996.
Although this was never published it may be useful to her. The research
looked
at older Irish Peoples use of their Social Services Department in the London
Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham. It involved quantitative research with 12
older Irish people looking at their journey to Britain and their experiences
of
living in London.. Various themes emerged which included a demand for
separate
services for Irish people.

All the best

Donal Brennan
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2648  
19 November 2001 14:00  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D DIDI 9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.e7dEAF2619.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D DIDI 9
  
Jessica March
  
From: Jessica March
Subject: DIDI A GO GO!

Hi Paddy,

I would welcome DIDI, and incline towards a preference for Policy B (2).

All the best,

Jessica March

St John's College,
Oxford.



In message
irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk writes:
>
>
> >From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> This is an Ir-D Housekeeping item, and a request for views and feedback...
>
> We now have our Database of the Irish-Diaspora list Archive up and
running.
> I have distributed the message again, because we have a number of new
> members who should be aware of this resource.
>
> Indeed, we have just passed our birthday - it is 4 years since the Ir-D
list
> was launched in November 1997, and we have in our database 3 full years of
> Ir-D discussion, from November 1998 inwards.
>
> I now want to turn to an issue that has been at the back of my mind for
some
> time...
>
> Very early on we established the policy, or the tradition, that new
members
> do NOT send messages to the list introducing themselves. This was partly a
> consequence of the way we grew up - from a small core who knew each other?
s
> work. But also I have found that such introductions are a waste of time -
> it is the person who introduces themselves most fulsomely who drops out,
> disgusted, after a week or so.
>
> We did look at the possibility of establishing DIDI, the Database of Irish
> Diaspora Interests - some sort of virtual place where Irish-Diaspora list
> members could deposit a little note about themselves and their interests.
> But, with the technology previously available to us, this was impossible
> chore.
>
> We have now developed simpler ways of doing things. We can set up
> procedures where each individual member of the Irish-Diaspora list can
make
> such a note available, and be responsible for its accuracy and for
updating
> it.
>
> We need to make policy decisions...
>
> Policy A: go on as we have done. No DIDI, no Database of Irish Diaspora
> Interests. People just chime into Ir-D discussions, when the mood takes
> them.
>
> Policy B: we establish DIDI, the Database of Irish Diaspora Interests.
But
> there is no requirement that people contribute information about
themselves
> to the database. We defend the right to lurk.
>
> Under Policy B, we have two choices...
>
> Policy B (1): the DIDI database should be PUBLIC, freely available on the
> Web - in effect advertisements for ourselves and our work.
>
> Policy B (2): the DIDI database should be PRIVATE, accessible only to
> members of the Irish-Diaspora list. We would most probably keep the
> database in our Restricted zone at irishdiaspora.net.
>
> There are also some technical options...
>
> Technical Option i - A Write-In or Copy and Paste procedure, whereby Ir-D
> members would simply type or copy the note about themselves into the DIDI
> database. This would need full Web access, and some Ir-D members may have
> technical problems with that.
>
> Technical Option ii - an Email procedure, whereby Ir-D members would send
> their note as an email, FROM the email address by which they are known to
> the Ir-D list, to a special DIDI email address. This special email
address
> would then automatically place the note in the DIDI database. We can set
it
> up so that a new email FROM your email address automatically deletes the
> previous one - so that the updating of your note is in your hands.
>
> I'd like some thoughts, please, before we go any further with this.
>
> Paddy O'Sullivan
>
> --
> Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> Email Patrick O'Sullivan
> Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/
> Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net
> Yorkshire Playwrights http://www.yorkshireplaywrights.com
>
> Personal Fax National 0709 236 9050
> Fax International +44 709 236 9050
>
> Home Address
> 30 Randall Place
> Heaton
> Bradford BD9 4AE
> Yorkshire
> England
>
>
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2649  
20 November 2001 06:00  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D DIDI 13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.8cE2a72625.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D DIDI 13
  
Michael McManus
  
From: Michael McManus
Subject: DIDI

Dear Paddy,

B2 for me please.

Mick.
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2650  
20 November 2001 06:00  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D DIDI 11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.aB0c2623.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D DIDI 11
  
Ultan Cowley
  
From: Ultan Cowley
Subject: DIDI

>
>My preference/s re. the above would be:
>Policy B(1); Technical Option ii.
>
>I believe these would offer the greater degree of openness and flexibility.
>
>Ultan Cowley
>
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2651  
20 November 2001 06:00  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D DIDI 12 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.0D0F2624.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D DIDI 12
  
MacEinri, Piaras
  
From: "MacEinri, Piaras"
Subject: RE: Ir-D I dream of DIDI

Hello Paddy

Here's my tuppence.

I too agree that people have the 'right to lurk' - or, if you prefer, they
should be free to browse, and maybe learn, without feeling they have to
contribute themselves. The whole point of information and the internet is
that it should be open and the environment should not be an intimating one
where, say, young or new scholars might feel obliged to 'justify'
themselves.

I support Policy B (1) - the more the word gets around, the better.

I can live with Option i or ii. I think you should go with whichever creates
the least additional work for you.

Regards

Piaras

Piaras Mac Éinrí Director/Stiúrthóir
Irish Centre for Migration Studies/Ionad na hImirce
National University of Ireland, Cork/Coláiste na hOllscoile, Corcaigh
email/post leictreonach migration[at]ucc.ie
web/idirlíon http://migration.ucc.ie
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2652  
20 November 2001 06:00  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D DIDI 14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.Be50C3a2626.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D DIDI 14
  
Jennifer Ridden
  
From: "Jennifer Ridden"
Subject: Re: Ir-D I dream of DIDI

I think a DIDI database would be a very useful resource, and am in favour
of Policy B (2): technical option ii.

Best wishes,
Jennifer Ridden
University of Cambridge
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2653  
20 November 2001 06:00  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D DIDI 10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.0f248cDF2622.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D DIDI 10
  
Molloy, Frank
  
From: "Molloy, Frank"
Subject: RE: Ir-D I dream of DIDI

Hello Paddy,

I think DIDI could be useful for all sorts of reasons, and would be happy
with B1 or B2; technical option ii looks easier.

Frank.
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2654  
20 November 2001 17:00  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D DIDI 15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.b8EB8AC2628.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D DIDI 15
  
Edmundo Murray
  
From: "Edmundo Murray"
Subject: Re: Ir-D DIDI 10

I don't know if I still have time to vote. Anyway, I think this could be a
good tool, whether B1 or B2 are implemented.

Edmundo Murray
Université de Genève
7, rue du Quartier Neuf
1205 Genève
Suisse
+41 22 739 5049 (office)
+41 22 320 1544 (home)
edmundo_murray[at]hotmail.com



>From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
>Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
>To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
>Subject: Ir-D DIDI 10
>Date: Tue 20 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000
>
>From: "Molloy, Frank"
>Subject: RE: Ir-D I dream of DIDI
>
>Hello Paddy,
>
>I think DIDI could be useful for all sorts of reasons, and would be happy
>with B1 or B2; technical option ii looks easier.
>
>Frank.
>
>
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2655  
20 November 2001 17:00  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Harry Potter and the Irish MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.fA40DB2627.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D Harry Potter and the Irish
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

I took my children to see the Harry Potter movie at the weekend...

Whatever you may think about J. K. Rowling's books (and, o lord, does she
not need a good editor) we cannot knock books that children enjoy and which
turn them into readers. My smaller boy adores the books, and loved the
movie.

I don't often bother to remark or complain about these things, but you
cannot help noticing that the movie has acquired a curious 'Irish' subtext,
a subtext that is not in the original books...

For example, Harry Potter readers will know that J. K. Rowling has hi-jacked
the English boarding school ('public school') story and given it a magical
twist. But her magic is an equal opportunities employer, and there are
representatives of all England's ethnic groups in her school - Chinese,
Indian and an Irish boy called Seamus Finnigan. Who is a decent sort.

There is also a clumsy boy, called Neville Longbottom (a Northern
England/Yorkshire name) - whose magical experiments, in a running gag, go
disasterously wrong.

In the MOVIE, same running gag - but the disasterously explosive magical
experiments have been given to the IRISH boy.

In the book, Hagrid (the school's gamekeeper person) buys Fluffy, the giant
three-headed dog, from 'a Greek chappie I met in the pub...' In the MOVIE
it becomes an Irishman he met in the pub...

The scriptwriter of the Harry Potter movie is Steve Kloves - who is an
American, with a good track record (Fabulous Baker Boys, etc.)

What does it all mean? I don't know. J. K. Rowling herself has clearly
worked hard to avoid this kind of sterotyping. These changes have come into
the story at the script development stage. Maybe these are simply further
examples of the curious shorthand uses which the word 'Irish' has acquired
in English-speaking cultures...

P.O'S.

- --
Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit

Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/
Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net

Personal Fax National 0709 236 9050
Fax International +44 709 236 9050

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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2656  
20 November 2001 19:00  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D DIDI 17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.6ab6a2631.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D DIDI 17
  
GRAINNE & FRED
  
From: "GRAINNE & FRED"
Subject: Didi

Dear Mr O'Sullivan,

I would agree with Mr Mac Einris' point of view.
As a research student I would feel ill at ease trying
to make myself sound interesting.

I think Policy B sounds good.

Grainne
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D DIDI 16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.f1fF2630.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D DIDI 16
  
Brian Lake
  
From: Brian Lake
Subject: Re: Ir-D DIDI 16


Hello Paddy,

Policy B(2), technical option (i) seems like the most practical/useful
arrangement. Successfully implementing such a system while keeping it
cost-effective can be a troubling experience. As someone who wears the web
developer's hat when not wearing the academic's hat, I would be please to
offer any technical advice that could further this project.


Regards

Brian

_________

Brian Lake
Acadia University
Email: brian.lake[at]brianlake.ca
Web: http://www.brianlake.ca
Icq: 13611240
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Harry Potter and the Irish 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.0DF3722629.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D Harry Potter and the Irish 2
  
Sarah Morgan
  
From: Sarah Morgan
Subject: Re: Ir-D Harry Potter and the Irish

Paddy,

yep, I noticed this too; it made my partner, who has not read any of the
books
really angry. I had to reassure him that this was not done in the books.
What
you don't draw out is the specific nature of the disasterous spells;
everything
explodes, including the attempt to turn water into rum (rum?! Why not
whiskey?). Certainly from a British context this has connotations of two
staples, Irish=IRA and the Irish as drunks.

Sarah Morgan.

On Tue 20 Nov 2001 17:00:00 +0000 irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

>
> From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> I took my children to see the Harry Potter movie at the weekend...
>
> Whatever you may think about J. K. Rowling's books (and, o lord, does she
> not need a good editor) we cannot knock books that children enjoy and
which
> turn them into readers. My smaller boy adores the books, and loved the
> movie.
>
> I don't often bother to remark or complain about these things, but you
> cannot help noticing that the movie has acquired a curious 'Irish'
subtext,
> a subtext that is not in the original books...
>
> For example, Harry Potter readers will know that J. K. Rowling has
hi-jacked
> the English boarding school ('public school') story and given it a magical
> twist. But her magic is an equal opportunities employer, and there are
> representatives of all England's ethnic groups in her school - Chinese,
> Indian and an Irish boy called Seamus Finnigan. Who is a decent sort.
>
> There is also a clumsy boy, called Neville Longbottom (a Northern
> England/Yorkshire name) - whose magical experiments, in a running gag, go
> disasterously wrong.
>
> In the MOVIE, same running gag - but the the disasterously explosive
magical
> experiments have been given to the IRISH boy.
>
> In the book, Hagrid (the school's gamekeeper person) buys Fluffy, the
giant
> three-headed dog, from 'a Greek chappie I met in the pub...' In the MOVIE
> it becomes an Irishman he met in the pub...
>
> The scriptwriter of the Harry Potter movie is Steve Kloves - who is an
> American, with a good track record (Fabulous Baker Boys, etc.)
>
> What does it all mean? I don't know. J. K. Rowling herself has clearly
> worked hard to avoid this kind of sterotyping. These changes have come
into
> the story at the script development stage. Maybe these are simply further
> examples of the curious shorthand uses which the word 'Irish' has acquired
> in English-speaking cultures...
>
> P.O'S.
>
> --
> Patrick O'Sullivan
> Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
>
> Email Patrick O'Sullivan
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>
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>
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>
> Irish Diaspora Research Unit
> Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
> University of Bradford
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> Yorkshire
> England
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

-----------------------
Dr.Sarah Morgan
s.morgan[at]unl.ac.uk
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Harry Potter and the Irish 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.de5fA82636.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D Harry Potter and the Irish 4
  
Patrick Maume
  
From: Patrick Maume
Subject: Re: Ir-D Harry Potter and the Irish 3

From: Patrick Maume

Does Richard Harris sound/ look Irish at any point in the film?
Patrick

On Wed 21 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000 irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
wrote:


> >From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> Our remarks here on the Irish-Diaspora list about the weird 'Irish'
elements
> that have appeared in the Harry Potter movie are being circulated
further.
>
> This comment has been sent to us by a non-member...
>
> P.O'S.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MaireGaffney[at]aol.com
> Subject: Re: Ir-D Harry Potter and the Irish
>
>
> Dear Paddy
>
> I didn't think the prejudice was in the original, but the changes
are enough
> to be at least suspicious. I can't think of another reason to
deliberately
> make these changes except to invoke a damaging stereotype. Bearing
in mind
> there are more of these movies in the pipeline a word in the ear of
some
> Hollywood
> type would be a good idea. They may well not listen, but are they
aware of
> the size of the audience that they are alienating?
>
> Maire
>
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D CFP WOMEN'S HISTORY: IRISH/CANADIAN CONNECTIONS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884592.c148e2632.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0111.txt]
  
Ir-D CFP WOMEN'S HISTORY: IRISH/CANADIAN CONNECTIONS
  
Forwarded for information...

FINAL CALL FOR PAPERS
WOMEN'S HISTORY: IRISH/CANADIAN CONNECTIONS
Saint Mary's University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
21-24 August 2002


Hosted by the D¹Arcy McGee Chair Of Irish Studies,
Saint Mary's University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
In Association With
The Women's Education, Research And Resource Centre (WERRC),
University College Dublin (UCD), Ireland


Historians and researchers of Irish and Canadian women's history are invited
to a women's history conference to be held at Saint Mary's University,
Halifax, Nova Scotia on 21-24 August 2002. The conference is being run by
an organising committee associated with the Women's Education, Research and
Resource Centre (WERRC), University College Dublin and the D¹Arcy McGee
Chair of Irish Studies, Saint Mary's University. This conference will
provide an important venue for: 1) the exchange of ideas and information
between Irish and Canadian historians of women, and 2) the cultivation of
a cross-cultural network of scholars working in a wide variety of areas of
Canadian and Irish women¹s history.

The Conference Keynote will be delivered by distinguished Irish historian,
Margaret MacCurtain. Other conference highlights include: Margaret Conrad
(Acadia University), Mary Daly (University College Dublin), Linda Kealey
(University of New Brunswick), Maria Luddy (University of Warwick), Ailbhe
Smyth (WERRC, University College Dublin), and Margaret Ward (Democratic
Dialogue, Belfast).

The conference will be loosely organised around the following themes: 1)
Documenting Women¹s Lives in Ireland and Canada, 2) Women, Politics and
Citizenship, and 3) Women¹s History: Social Movements and Social Change.
Sessions will have a broad chronological range, and will focus on issues in
women¹s history such as religion, education, medical issues, social
movements, politics, nationalism, economics, labour, immigration/emigration,
demographics, ethnicities, colonial legislative and penal systems, images of
women in literature and the visual arts, and women's writing, from an Irish,
Canadian, or comparative Irish/Canadian perspective. We encourage
submissions that analyse conditions of gender, class, sexuality, race and
ethnicity within these broad frameworks.

The organising committee invites proposals for formal papers approximately
30 minutes in length, as well as proposals for research presentations
approximately 15 minutes long, in the above areas. A specific session will
be set aside for summaries of new or ongoing research projects. Proposals
for papers should consist of a title, an abstract (up to 250 words),
together with a short (1 page) CV. Please submit your proposal by post (3
copies) or e-mail, including your address, phone/fax nos and e-mail by 31
January 2002 to: Marie Hammond Callaghan, c/o Women's Education, Research
and Resource Centre (WERRC), Arts Annexe, University College Dublin, Dublin
4, Ireland, e-mail: marie.hammond[at]novaworx.ca or
marie.hammondcallaghan[at]ucd.ie.

Please note that the organisers intend to publish as a volume a collection
of papers from the conference. Candidates whose proposals are successful,
who wish their papers to be considered for publication, will be expected to
submit completed conference papers in advance of the conference in 2002.
This deadline, along with publication guidelines, will be provided upon
approval of their conference proposal submissions.

The members of the organising committee for this conference are:
Grainne Blair (University of Warwick) e-mail: grainne.blair[at]ucd.ie
Cyril Byrne (Saint Mary¹s University) e-mail: cyril.byrne[at]STMARYS.CA
Marie Hammond Callaghan (WERRC, UCD) e-mail: marie. hammondcallaghan[at]ucd.ie
OR marie.hammond[at]novaworx.ca
Pádraig Ó Siadhail (Saint Mary¹s University) e-mail:
padraig.osiadhail[at]STMARYS.CA
Rosemary Raughter (WERRC, UCD) e-mail: rraughter[at]eircom.net

Saint Mary's Irish Studies website:
http://www.stmarys.ca/academic/arts/irishst/welcome.htm

WERRC website: http://www.ucd.ie/~werrc

Conference homepage: http://www.ucd.ie/~womenhist.html
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