From: njh35

Paddy
If the material is large is it possible/ feasible for it to be
'collected' and
then distributed, say, once a month? Or placed directly onto the
database on
the website? This might at least free up the List for other matters and
members would have the resource in a more manageable form. If this makes
more
work, though, don't do it. someone else may have a better idea...
best Joan

From: Elizabeth Malcolm
Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movie


Peter,

Can't tell you exactly how to get a copy, but 'Sight and Sound', the
English film magazine, used to have adverts from companies offering
to get you videos of any film you wanted. I ordered from a few. The
only one I can find a record of is: MovieMail in Hereford, with a
website: http://www.moviem.co.uk. But I don't know if UK videos are
comparable with Canadian systems. UK videos work here, but not UK TVs
or video players!!

I too saw 'Parnell' (1937) long ago on TV and wasn't impressed -
thought it marginally worse than the English film about Captain
Boycott (1947), although Robert Donat was a better Parnell in that.
But Myrna Loy defends the film at some length in her autobiography as
striving for accuracy and tells a story about Randolph Churchill
visiting the set and advising on British parliamentary procedures.
She also claims that it contains Gable's 'best love scene' ever??
With her of course!

The following is from Graham Greene's snide review: 'Poor though the
picture may be, it is pleasing to think how clean a film magnate's
wish-fulfilments are, how virginal and high-minded the tawdry and
pathetic human past becomes when the Mayers and Goldwyns turn the
magic ring'.

Parnell - 'tawdry', 'pathetic' ?!?

Elizabeth Malcolm
Melbourne


>From: Peter Hart
>Subject: Re: query
>
>
>Does anyone know of a way to get a copy of the 1930s ('37 I think)
>movie `Parnell'? It starred Myrna Loy and Clark Gable (the queen and
>king of Hollywood), played wonderfully fast and loose with the facts of

>their relationship, and has been named as one of the 50 worst movies of

>all time. Perhaps for this reason, I have never found a cassette copy
>for sale. I have seen it, years ago, on late-night TV, but lately it
>has even vanished from there.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Peter Hart
>
>Memorial University of Newfoundland

Dr Elizabeth Malcolm
Gerry Higgins Professor of Irish Studies
Department of History, University of Melbourne
Parkville, Victoria, 3010, AUSTRALIA

Telephone: +61-3-8344 3924; FAX: +61-3-8344 7894
Email: e.malcolm[at]unimelb.edu.au

From: patrick maume
Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movie 3

From: Patrick Maume
Harry and Michael Medved THE FIFTY WORST MOVIES OF ALL TIME (AND
HOW THEY GOT THAT WAY)(1978) has a summary and some stills on
pp176-80. Apparently Carole Lombard (who commented "If Parnell
was as woozy a goof as Gable portrayed him in that picture,
Ireland still wouldn't be free") acquired a collection of
Parnell publicity material and liked to wind up Gable by
producing it at embarrassing moments.
In his autobiography Leon O Broin recalls being invited to a
private showing of the film by the film censor,Dr. Richard
Hayes, along with several other historians and people with links
to the Irish Parliamentary Party. Gable refused to wear a beard
when playing Parnell because he was afraid his fans wouldn't
recognise him. As the lights went up at the end, Hayes turned
to his guests and declated "Gentlemen, I call that a barefaced
travesty".
On the Irish Diaspora angle - apparently the film, which I
have never seen, ends with Irish and American flags being
displayed on screen while an American patriotic tune is played.
It was quite specifically aimed at Irish-Americans (though I
don't know if they made anything out of Parnell's being
half-American).
Does anyone know what the Hayes Office thought of it? I
imagine they would have taken an interest in it given the
adultery/divorce theme (& the studio would certainly have had to
take notice given that the majority of the self-identifying
Irish-American audience would have been Catholic and influenced
by the Legion of Decency and similar bodies). The Hayes Office's
records apparently have survived in bulk, and a lot has been
written about the Office's negotiations with studios before films went
into production about how particular plots should be handled if they
were to have any hope of getting approval. Do any of
these accounts (or any Gable biographies) mention PARNELL?
Gerard O'Shea (the son of Captain and Mrs. O'Shea, who got
his mother to write her memoirs in the vain hope of vindicating
his father against the charge of collusion) was hired as a
consultant on the film - to buy him off, I suspect (but perhaps
I do him an injustice.
Perhaps if Peter got in touch with the Irish Film Centre in
Temple Bar, Dublin they might be able to help. I don't know
their web-address offhand, but a Google search should turn it
up. They should certainly have a copy of the film, which can be
consulted in Dublin - though this may not be much help when
you're in Newfoundland! They should know about its availability
or otherwise on video/DVD, etc.
Hope this is some use.
Best wishes,
Patrick

On 04 February 2003 05:59 irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

>
>
> From: "jamesam"
> To:
> Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movie
>
> Funny how this bad penny keeps rolling around!! I asked the same
> question several months ago and have heard nothing to date. I've
> searched the internet movie data base to no avail.
>
> Patricia Jameson-Sammartano
>
>
>

----------------------
patrick maume

From: Peter Hart
Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movie 4

As I remember it, the amusing thing about the plotting was that the
romance is presented as unconsummated - so there was no adultery. This,
of course, makes the accusations false and Parnell a wronged man brought
down by slanderers. On the other hand, there was great attention paid
to accuracy on other levels. Davitt, a minor character in the film,
looks the part, including the missing arm. I think the movie starts
with Parnell arriving home from the States in 1880.

Thanks for the advice so far.

Peter

From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Forwarded on behalf of
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From Email Patrick O'Sullivan


Not even a hint? Go on, give us a hint. Ah, go on. Go on, go on, go
on, go on.

Paddy O'Sullivan


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Subject: Ir-D Mental Health services: Irish community consultation 3

From: WallsAMP[at]aol.com
Subject: Re: Ir-D Mental Health services: Irish community consultation 2

The feedback from all the events will be written up as part of a report
on
the consultation to be completed during Feb/March and will then
available
from the Federation of Irish Societies.

Paddy Walls

From: Sara Brady
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk

Dear Paddy,

I was wondering if you could post the following message to the diaspora
list:

We've just updated our website, www.grian.org and for anyone who'll be
in the New York area in early March, GRIAN will be holding our 5th
annual conference as well as presenting a GRIAN community event: the
U.S. premiere of the Irish-language short film AQUA. See www.grian.org
for details.

Many thanks!

Sara Brady
The GRIAN Association
sara.brady[at]grian.org

From: McCaffrey
Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movie 5

Peter,
There is another Parnell 'life' done by the BBC sometime in the 1980s I
think. It was a little better than the movie but took some leaps also -

O'Shea was influenced by the Catholic Bishops to take his action and Tim

Healy simply was jealous of Parnell's success hence his betrayal of the
hero, who by the way, is depicted as arrogant and unfeeling as regards
his own party. The more interesting theory, of Healy's blackmail by the

British [and turning informer] does not surface.

Carmel McC




irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

>From: Peter Hart
>Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movie 4
>
>As I remember it, the amusing thing about the plotting was that the
>romance is presented as unconsummated - so there was no adultery.
>This, of course, makes the accusations false and Parnell a wronged man
>brought down by slanderers. On the other hand, there was great
>attention paid to accuracy on other levels. Davitt, a minor character
>in the film, looks the part, including the missing arm. I think the
>movie starts with Parnell arriving home from the States in 1880.
>
>Thanks for the advice so far.
>
>Peter
>
>

From: "jamesam"
To:
Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movie

Funny how this bad penny keeps rolling around!! I asked the same
question several months ago and have heard nothing to date. I've
searched the internet movie data base to no avail.

Patricia Jameson-Sammartano

From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

I'd like some advice, and feedback, from Ir-D members about a problem
that has become more pressing over the past 3 months.

As you all know, we like to distribute via Ir-D notices of relevant
Irish Diaspora Studies books, articles and other resources. This has
the merit of keeping Ir-D members aware of the 'state of play' and
seeing how their own work fits into the patterns - and, of course, such
information is then stored in our database at www.irishdiaspora.net

We have been investing and negotiating, and now have better software and
better coverage of more databases. Further, more and more research
material is becoming available online - there are more databases, more
journals have some sort of web presence. Many of those databases, as
well as moving forward in time, as time passes, are moving BACKWARDS in
time, collating resources as databases become linked and as more
journals have online Tables of Contents.

The upshot is that we are now becoming aware of far more relevant Irish
Diaspora Studies material than has been the pattern in the past. Some
of this material is, in fact, quite old - part of this backward
collating pattern. I look at some of the material now turning up in
those databases and wonder how a normal human researcher, in the old
days, could even have become aware of it.

As I say, this pattern has really become visible to us in the past few
months. I am really not at all sure how to handle this.

Should we just continue to distribute everything we come across, at the
risk, maybe, of at times swamping the Ir-D list? Should we try to
become more selective? But on what basis? Should we just direct
people's attention to the publicly available databases and say, Search
for yourself?

I now have something of a backlog of material which has collected during
my usual winter of minor illness. I am trying to think this through
myself. I would value any comments, suggestions and advice from
Irish-Diaspora list members.

Paddy

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England

From: "peter holloran"
To:
Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movies

There are two films on Parnell. The 1937 Hollywood melodrama, Parnell,
starred Clark Gable as Parnell and Myrna Loy as Katie O'Shea. The other
is a 1990 BBC film, Parnell and the Englishwoman, with Trevor Eve as
Parnell and Francesca Annis as Katie O'Shea. Both films were not well
received by movie critics.

Peter Holloran
Worcester State College

From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Forwarded on behalf of
Peter Sharpe
p.a.sharpe[at]bham.ac.uk

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Click on
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and follow the link to "Latest News" for the provisional conference
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Assistant to the Programme Director ESRC Devolution Programme Institute
for German Studies University of Birmingham Pritchatts Road Edgbaston
BIRMINGHAM B15 2TT p.a.sharpe[at]bham.ac.uk


?DEVOLUTION IN NORTHERN IRELAND ? RECORD AND PROSPECTS?
A One Day Conference at Stormont Hotel, Belfast, 4 March 2003

The Economic and Social Research Council (ESRC) UK Research Programme on
Devolution and Constitutional Change is staging a major conference event
on devolution in Northern Ireland. This will take place in Belfast at
the Stormont Hotel on 4 March 2003.

The confirmed keynote speakers are David Trimble and Mark Durkan, the
recent First and Deputy First Ministers, and Garret FitzGerald, former
Taoiseach of the Republic of Ireland. A senior member of the UK
government may also be present.

Our aim in arranging the conference ?Devolution in Northern Ireland
Record and Prospects? is twofold:

First, we are looking to demonstrate the potential of top quality social
science research to engage with key policy issues (our target audience
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Second, we hope that a major event such as this will stimulate some new
thinking on the further development of devolution in Northern Ireland
(whether or not the Assembly remains suspended).

The two themes which will run through the day are:
(a) to look back and identify what devolution has delivered so far and
(b) to look forward and explore the future possibilities and
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You can see a draft programme for the conference by following the link
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and also obtain a downloadable booking form.

For further information please contact Peter Sharpe, Conference
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About the Research Programme
The ESRC Research Programme on Devolution and Constitutional Change is a
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the 35 research projects we are funding around the UK, six are located
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Our Northern Ireland research naturally deals in part with the devolved
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From: Fintan Vallely
To:


Crosbhealach an Cheoil - The Crossroads Conference 2003
At University of Ulster, Magee Campus, Derry, N. Ireland
25-27 April 2003

theme:

Education in Traditional Music

Offers of papers for this conference are now being assessed, but those
interested in the updates to the programme, accommodation, etc., please
consult the website

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Further information from info[at]cros2003.com

From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

As will be gathered, my brain is having a clear-out of Ir-D Housekeeping
items...

As you know we run 2 web sites...

Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/
...is an 'old-fashioned' hand-crafted HTML site, at the University of
Bradford's web site.

Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net
...was developed for us and is hosted for us by Dr. Stephen Sobol and
his Sobolstones partnership. This makes use of Cold Fusion web database
technology, and - as far as we are concerned - is much easier to use
than HTML.

I have discussed with a number of Ir-D friends the problems we have had
with the University of Bradford web site. They seem to be common
problems. Suffice it to say that the problems have now become
insupportable - with the University insisting on a complete redesign of
the site. The University's reasons may be good ones. But I have
decided that the work involved is not a legitmate use of our time.
Accordingly we have relinquished control of the University of Bradford
web site - it is no longer updated and will no doubt disappear in time.

Instead there will be a brief, basic Irish Diaspora Studies contact and
information web page on the web site of the Department of Social
Sciences and Humanities of the University of Bradford - we are grateful
to the Department for their support in this matter. That brief web page
will direct visitors to http://www.irishdiaspora.net - which we will
continue to use and update.

I think I have moved everything of importance from the University of
Bradford web site to http://www.irishdiaspora.net.

Paddy

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From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Forwarded on behalf of
Alexander Gonzalez
GONZALEZ[at]cortland.edu
Subject: Publishing opportunity for literary scholars


- -----Original Message-----

Dear Friends:

I am pasting on a CFP. If you yourself are not interested, please pass
= this on to someone else who might be.

Thanks!

Alexander G. Gonzalez
Professor of English
gonzalez[at]cortland.edu

CALL FOR PAPERS

Established scholars and qualified advanced graduate students are =
invited to contribute articles for inclusion in a forthcoming volume =
titled IRISH WOMEN WRITERS: AN A-TO-Z GUIDE. Scheduled for publication
= by Greenwood Press in 2005, this book will serve as a comprehensive =
reference guide to seventy-five significant Irish women writers.

In design and format this volume will be very similar to Greenwood's =
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Bannister, Ivy (1500)
Bardwell, Leland (1500)
Beckett, Mary (1500)
Berkeley, Sara (1500)
Binchy, Maeve (3000)
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Bourke, Angela (2000)
Bowen, Elizabeth (3000)
Boylan, Clare (1500)
Brennan, Elizabeth (1500)
Browne, Frances (1500)

Callahan, Mary Rose (1500)
Cannon, Moya (2500)
Carr, Marina (3000)
Casey, Juanita (1500)
Colum, Mary M. (1500)
Crottie, Julia (1500)
Cummins, Geraldine (1500)

Daly, Ita (2000)
Day, Suzanne (1500)
Deevy, Teresa (2500)
Devlin, Anne (3000)
Dillon, Eilis (2500)
Donoghue, Emma (2500)
Dorcey, Mary (2500)

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Hartigan, Anne (2500)
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Jenkinson, Biddy (2000)
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Tynan, Katharine (2000)

Wingfield, Sheila (1500)

From: patrick maume
Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movie 5

From: Patrick Maume
The same is true of CAPTAIN BOYCOTT - there is a man made up
to look like Davitt on the platform beside Robert Donat, though
he never says a word and none of the characters mentions Davitt.
THe big oddity about CAPTAIN BOYCOTT is that the characters go
to Mass in Ballinrobe, then set out for Parnell's meeting in
Ennis and arrive later that afternoon (by horse and cart). I
suppose the film-makers assumed audiences wouldn't be familiar
enough with the geography of Ireland to know the distance
involved so they didn't bother moving the speechfrom its
historical site in Ennis to somewhere like Irishtown or
Westport, which would have fitted better.
Best wishes,
Patrick
On 04 February 2003 05:59 irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

>
> From: Peter Hart
> Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movie 4
>
On the other hand, there was great attention paid
> to accuracy on other levels. Davitt, a minor character in the film,
> looks the part, including the missing arm.
>

From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

This might interest some Ir-D colleagues - I have certainly recently
been sent very interesting draft articles about ships and shipping.

P.O'S.

Forwarded on behalf of
David Lambert [drl23[at]cam.ac.uk]

- -----Original Message-----
Subject: CFP: Historical Geographies of the Sea

From: David Lambert [drl23[at]cam.ac.uk]

"Historical Geographies of the Sea" Call for Papers

RGS-IBG Annual Conference
London 2003, 3rd - 5th September

Organised by Dr David Lambert, Dr Luciana Martins and Dr Miles Ogborn

This session seeks to address historical geography's lack of attention
to
the sea and to demonstrate the significance of maritime geographies in
shaping economics, politics and culture at all scales, from the local to

the global. The session seeks empirically-grounded papers that address
the
geographies of oceanic, maritime and coastal worlds, particularly those
connected to the creation of new global systems from the early modern
period onwards. We aim to include papers that address and reorient the
key
concerns of contemporary historical geography - including globalisation,

empire, mappings, and the making of geographical knowledge - through
attention to the sea. Papers are welcomed on the geographies of oceanic
exploration and colonisation, maritime trade and piracy; on the
sea-borne
carriage and circulation of people, goods and ideas; on the cultures and

politics of the seas, ports and coasts that arose from contact, commerce

and population movement (both forced and unforced); on the politics of
representing and displaying the seas and seafarers; and on the
construction
of geographical knowledge as a marine endeavour.

Presentations are expected to be around 20 minutes in duration. Offers
for
papers, comprising author, address, title and abstract (of not more than

200 words) should be submitted to Dr David Lambert by e-mail or hard
copy
no later than Friday 7th February 2003.

Dr David Lambert
Department of Geography
Downing Place
Cambridge, CB2 3EN
Email: drl23[at]cam.ac.uk

From: McCaffrey
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1)
Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0

The momentum for this theory gained ground from a reference in Michael
Collins' diary which suggested that an informer at the castle might be
Tim Healy. Tim Pat Coogan suggests that the Britis had blackmailed
Healy into this situation by threatening to frame him with the Phoenix
Park murders. I can't remember right now what his evidence for this
was. Interesting, anyway. Healy remains a puzzle.
Carmel

irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

>From: Patrick Maume
>
> The concept of Healy as informer was developed by Sean
>MacBride. Healy's definitive biographer Frank Callanan seems
>to regard this as wishful thinking.
>


[Moderator's Note:
For Frank Callanan's book on Timothy Michael Healy see
http://www.ucc.ie/corkunip/syntmh.htm

There's a little essay on Healy by E. O'Mahony at
http://www.geocities.com/eomahony/Healy.htm

P.O'S.]

From: patrick maume
Sender: P.Maume[at]Queens-Belfast.AC.UK
Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell X 2


From: Patrick Maume
PARNELL AND THE ENGLISHWOMAN was a mini-series, not a film.
The script was by Hugh Leonard, who also published a
novelisation.
The concept of Healy as informer was developed by Sean
MacBride. Healy's definitive biographer Frank Callanan seems
to regard this as wishful thinking. (There were, incidentally,
separatists in the early twentieth century who thought Mrs.
O'Shea was a British agent - just as there were people who
thought Parnell had faked his own death and gone to South Africa
to begin a new career as the Boer guerrilla leader Christian De
Wet!)
Peter's revelation that in the Clark Gable film the
Parnell-O'Shea relationship is unconsummated is very striking -
none of the accounts of the film I've seen made this clear.
Maybe this influenced Eamonn McCann's school history teacher,
who is described in WAR AND AN IRISH TOWN informing his pupils
that the notion that Parnell and Mrs. O'Shea had been anything
more than good friends was a British slander!
Best wishes,
Patrick

On 04 February 2003 05:59 irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

>
> From: "peter holloran"
> To:
> Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movies
>
> There are two films on Parnell. The 1937 Hollywood melodrama, Parnell,

> starred Clark Gable as Parnell and Myrna Loy as Katie O'Shea. The
> other is a 1990 BBC film, Parnell and the Englishwoman, with Trevor
> Eve as Parnell and Francesca Annis as Katie O'Shea. Both films were
> not well received by movie critics.
>
> Peter Holloran
> Worcester State College
>

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patrick maume

From: "jamesam"
To:
Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movie 2

I did a quick search for the movie at the address given but found
nothing. IMDB does not list anything for sale, and I've never seen it
for sale on eBay. I know about the 1947 Captain Boycott and the
mini-series; don't know about the availability.

If you go to the Internet movie database(imdb.com), they sometimes tell
you about television listings through a service called gist.com. If
anyone sees this listed, please give the list a heads-up. I read
somewhere that Gable was so disgusted with this movie that he almost
gave up playing historical roles.

Patricia

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>
> From: Elizabeth Malcolm
> Subject: Re: Ir-D Parnell, the movie
>
>
> Peter,
>
> Can't tell you exactly how to get a copy, but 'Sight and Sound', the
> English film magazine, used to have adverts from companies offering to

> get you videos of any film you wanted. I ordered from a few. The only
> one I can find a record of is: MovieMail in Hereford, with a
> website: http://www.moviem.co.uk. But I don't know if UK videos are
> comparable with Canadian systems. UK videos work here, but not UK TVs
> or video players!!
>
> I too saw 'Parnell' (1937) long ago on TV and wasn't impressed -
> thought it marginally worse than the English film about Captain
> Boycott (1947), although Robert Donat was a better Parnell in that.
> But Myrna Loy defends the film at some length in her autobiography as
> striving for accuracy and tells a story about Randolph Churchill
> visiting the set and advising on British parliamentary procedures. She

> also claims that it contains Gable's 'best love scene' ever?? With her

> of course!
>
> The following is from Graham Greene's snide review: 'Poor though the
> picture may be, it is pleasing to think how clean a film magnate's
> wish-fulfilments are, how virginal and high-minded the tawdry and
> pathetic human past becomes when the Mayers and Goldwyns turn the
> magic ring'.
>
> Parnell - 'tawdry', 'pathetic' ?!?
>
> Elizabeth Malcolm
> Melbourne
>