3761 | 6 February 2003 05:59 |
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Email Patrick O'Sullivan | |
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Time to draw attention to John Herson's very nice web site about his work on Irish Families in Victorian Stafford, England. Note that one of John's essays is available on the web site, at the bottom of the section, The Project. Note, too, that this web site reaches out to those who are interested in their own family histories - seeing them as both a community to be servied and as in themselves sources and resources. P.O'S. Web site... http://cwis.livjm.ac.uk/soc/families/ John Herson tells us... 'The aim of this site is to try to make contact with the descendants of Irish families who settled or passed through 19th century Stafford. I want to build up a more sophisticated picture of a range of families experiences in migration and the diaspora as well as on their own attitudes to their history.' | |
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3762 | 6 February 2003 05:59 |
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Ir-D More books about Eliza Lynch 2 | |
patrick maume | |
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Subject: Re: Ir-D More books about Eliza Lynch From: Patrick Maume The current issue of the LITERARY REVIEW has a review by Richard Gott of one of these books. Gott hints that he takes a more favourable view of Eliza Lynch and Solano Lopez; he claims that the great war was triggered by Paraguay's neighbours, that Paraguay fought in self-defence, and that hostile contemporary accounts of Eliza Lynch reflect the prejudices of the Asuncion social elite. This I suspect says more about Gott's fondness for South American autarkic-populist-nationalist leaders (he is currently a prominent eulogist of President Chavez of Venezuela) than about actual events. Just as a matter of curiosity, has any independent scholar (as distinct from Paraguayan nationalists and official eulogists) ever seriously argued this view of the case? Best wishes, Patrick On 06 February 2003 05:59 irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote: > > >From Email Patrick O'Sullivan > > For information... > > >From The Guardian Web site... > > http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/biography/0,6121,885684,00.html > > EXTRACT BEGINS>>> > The Lady Macbeth of Paraguay > > Frances Wilson is bemused by the mythologisation of Elisa Lynch, which > continues with biographies from Siân Rees and Nigel Cawthorne > > Saturday February 1, 2003 > The Guardian | |
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3763 | 6 February 2003 05:59 |
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Ir-D More books about Eliza Lynch | |
Email Patrick O'Sullivan | |
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
For information... From The Guardian Web site... http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/biography/0,6121,885684,00.html EXTRACT BEGINS>>> The Lady Macbeth of Paraguay Frances Wilson is bemused by the mythologisation of Elisa Lynch, which continues with biographies from Siân Rees and Nigel Cawthorne Saturday February 1, 2003 The Guardian The Shadows of Elisa Lynch: How a Nineteenth Century Irish Courtesan Became the Most Powerful Woman in Paraguay by Siân Rees 256pp, Review, £14.99 The Empress of South America by Nigel Cawthorne 320pp, Heinemann, £12.99 Perhaps more surprising than the appearance in the same month of two books on the same subject and with the same number of pages and duplicate opening scenes, is that, after years of neglect, suddenly three people have cottoned on to the chilling story of Elisa Lynch, the Lady Macbeth of Paraguay. The first was Anne Enright, whose novel The Pleasure of Eliza Lynch was published last autumn. Now come two biographies. The Shadows of Elisa Lynch is Siân Rees's second book, The Empress of South America is Nigel Cawthorne's 32nd; both seem to have been written at lightning speed, their previous publications being still hot off the press... EXTRACT ENDS>>> | |
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3764 | 7 February 2003 05:59 |
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Ir-D More books about Eliza Lynch 4 | |
Oliver Marshall | |
From: Oliver Marshall
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D More books about Eliza Lynch Yes, Gott's line is (or has been) supported by scholars who have pointed to, for example, the post-war deliberate destruction (by the Brazilian co-victors) of iron works developed by Solano in order boost foreign sales. But serious historians of Paraguay tend to argue that Solano's achievements of economic independence/modernization were wildly exaggerated, that its means were limited and that, in any case, Paraguay as a prize just wasn't that important. Yes, what a few months for books on Paraguay! And just published is yet another with at least some mention of Eliza Lynch - and including rather more on the Australian utopian socialists and their descendants in present-day Paraguay: John Gimlette, At the tomb of the inflatable pig (London: Hutchinson, 2003). Oliver Marshall Centre for Brazilian Studies University of Oxford --------------- > > From: patrick maume > Subject: Re: Ir-D More books about Eliza Lynch > > From: Patrick Maume > The current issue of the LITERARY REVIEW has a review by Richard > Gott of one of these books. Gott hints that he takes a more > favourable view of Eliza Lynch and Solano Lopez; he claims that > the great war was triggered by Paraguay's neighbours, that > Paraguay fought in self-defence, and that hostile contemporary > accounts of Eliza Lynch reflect the prejudices of the Asuncion > social elite. This I suspect says more about Gott's fondness > for South American autarkic-populist-nationalist leaders (he is > currently a prominent eulogist of President Chavez of Venezuela) > than about actual events. > Just as a matter of curiosity, has any independent scholar > (as distinct from Paraguayan nationalists and official > eulogists) ever seriously argued this view of the case? > Best wishes, > Patrick [Moderator's Note... See... http://www.wanderlust.co.uk/reviews/bkrev56.html P.O'S.] | |
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3765 | 7 February 2003 05:59 |
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Justin Corfield | |
From: Justin Corfield
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Re: Mme Lynch and Paraguay For the last four years I have been working on a history of the British and Australians in Paraguay and I have to confess being somewhat overwhelmed by three new books on Mme Lynch in the last six months ! I have just ordered the last two books so I cannot comment on what they do cover - and thank this list for bringing them to my attention. However the last email by Patrick Maume raised some queries on the start of the War of the Triple Alliance. I feel it is too easy to see the actions of Francisco Solano Lopez in 1865 as either 'self-defence' or, as others allege, blatant aggression. And I certainly do not wish to be either an apologist for, or critic of Lopez. At the start of the war he was essentially coming to the aid of what was the Government of Uruguay to stop either Brazil or Unitarist Argentina from dominating the region - - and could never have expected that Brazil and Argentina would join with a new government of Uruguay to attack Paraguay. Within a short space of time (after the fall of the Berro government in Montevideo) Francisco Solano Lopez found that his gamble had not paid off but felt that his defences at Humaita would prevent his country from being attacked. History proved him wrong. As to the other matter (raised in The Guardian article) about the plots against Francisco Solano Lopez, I feel that they were, in large part, genuine (although some people were certainly only involved at the discussion stage), and that his response to them only persuaded others to embark on further plots and schemes to oust him as President. In addition with a number of prominent Paraguayans fighting alongside the Brazilians in such a bitter war it is easy to see how Lopez could view the relatives of these emigres as conspirators. I would certainly welcome anybody else interested in the story contacting me at justinc[at]ggscorio.vic.edu.au. Justin Corfield Geelong, Australia | |
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3766 | 7 February 2003 05:59 |
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Subject: Final CFP: CAIS 2003 The Canadian Association for Irish Studies L?Association canadienne d?études irlandaises Conference / Réunion 2003 University of New Brunswick, Fredericton May 21-24 mai 2003 Theme : ?Ireland Old and New? / « L?Irlande: Vieux et nouveaux The Canadian Association for Irish Studies (CAIS) solicits submissions for its 2003 conference. With our topic ?Ireland Old and New,? we are looking for a wide variety of papers from a broad spectrum of discourses. Contributions on historical questions, political developments, literary analyses, broad cultural investigations, or presentations on specific issues in Irish literature, theatre, film, television, radio, music, visual arts, etc. are welcome. A maritime province, New Brunswick is also Canada?s only officially bilingual province; thus, papers on the role of the Irish in the culture of the Maritime provinces and on bilingualism in Canada and Ireland would be especially welcome. Topics could include: ? Emerging voices in Irish literature, theatre or arts ? Examinations of mediaeval narrative ? The role of globalisation in Irish culture ? The place of Irish in the country?s past or future ? The Northern peace process: its prospects or roots ? The legacy of the 1798 rising ? The impact on Irish culture of immigration and emigration ? Ireland and the European Union ? Changing interpretations of 19th century Ireland ? Cultural nationalism and the ?new Ireland? of the 1990s ? The importance of material culture in Irish history ? Various ?new Irelands? in Ireland?s past (e.g. 2003 is the bicentennial of the Emmet uprising) ? Memory, remembering and Irish culture CAIS prides itself on the diversity of its membership; as such, potential presenters are asked to bear in mind the interdisciplinary and often non-academic character of conference participants. Presenters must also be scrupulous about keeping their presentations to 20 minutes. Presenters must also be paid-up members of CAIS. To submit to the conference, send a short abstract, preferably via email, in English or in French, and no later than 15 February 2003, to: Dermot McCarthy Conference Chair, CAIS 2003 Department of English Huron University College 1349 Western Road London, Ontario N6G 1H3 Email: mccarthy[at]uwo.ca | |
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3767 | 8 February 2003 05:59 |
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Email Patrick O'Sullivan | |
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
The folowing item has been brought to our attention... P.O'S. From The Irish Echo (NY), January 15-21, 2003: Language declines in Gaeltacht, but in U.S. it's hot. By Sarah Freeman Excerpt begins: "Where were you the last time you heard someone speak Irish? Chances are that it was in the United States, not Ireland. At least, that is the impression one might get from a recent survey carried out in the Gaeltacht areas of Ireland, areas where Irish is spoken fluently and is the currency of the day. The survey, carried out by Donncha O hEalaithe, a language enthusiast and lecturer at the Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology, shows that only 25 percent of households in Gaeltacht areas are fluent in Irish. This contrasts with the ever-increasing demand for Irish language classes in New York and the United States in general. Why the surge of interest in the language here when it appears to be languishing at home? A single search on the internet turns up a plethora of classes and schools for Irish. It would seem that, in New York at least, the language has never been more popular. Is it due to a rise in ethnic pride and the trendiness of all things Irish, or is it a thirst for a tradition that does not exist here?" See full text at: http://www.irishecho.com/archives/archivestory.cfm?newspaperid=12500&iss ueid=285 [Note: your own email line breaks might fracture that long Web address.] Copyright 2003 Irish Echo Newspaper Corp. | |
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3768 | 10 February 2003 05:59 |
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patrick maume | |
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To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D John Ford and James Joyce From: Patrick Maume When browsing the Web recently I came across an essay in the American Catholic magazine CRISIS which argues that THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE is actually a concealed adaptation of THE DEAD (John Wayne as Michael Furey, James Stewart as Gabriel, Vera Miles as Gretta). Any takers, or is this too farfetched for words? Best wishes, Patrick http://www.crisismagazine.com/october2002/feature3.htm ---------------------- patrick maume | |
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3769 | 10 February 2003 05:59 |
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Ir-D Book, Voyage of the Catalpa | |
Email Patrick O'Sullivan | |
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From The Guardian web site... http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/history/0,6121,890485,00.html Free the Fremantle six CL Dallat is gripped by Peter Stevens's account of how a group of Irish rebels staged a daring nautical escape from an Australian convict colony, The Voyage of the Catalpa Saturday February 8, 2003 The Guardian Buy The Voyage of the Catalpa at Amazon.co.uk The Voyage of the Catalpa: A Perilous Journey and Six Irish Rebels' Escape to Freedom by Peter Stevens 328pp, Weidenfeld, £14.99 "Ripping" maritime escapades have little place in Ireland's prolific liberation literature - with its contemplative prison journals, ballads of ambushes in lonely glens and dramas of gunfire on city streets - or indeed in Irish writing at large, a striking absence given a sea-faring tradition at least as enduring as that of its sea-girt, wave-ruling neighbour... | |
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3770 | 13 February 2003 05:59 |
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Ir-D Seminar - Music traditions among Protestants | |
Fintan Vallely | |
From: Fintan Vallely
Seminar - Music traditions among Protestants Swinging Shoulders, Dancing Feet Music traditions among protestant people in Ireland A one-day seminar organised by the Academy for Irish Cultural Heritages at University of Ulster's York Street (College of Art) campus in Belfast. Feb 22nd, 2003, 10am - 5.30pm Music in Northern Ireland often functions as a divisive force. Many Protestants believe Irish traditional music makes, and is used to make, a political statement and feel threatened by its performance. Catholics are offended by the language of "loyalist" songs, by the Lambeg drum and by the aggressive style of some bands. However, many Protestants have been at the forefront of organisations which sought to document and "preserve" aspects of Irish language and culture, and certainly some of the most eminent commentators on and collectors of Irish music were Protestants. In any case, Traditional Irish dance music and song have significant English and Scottish origin or influence, while the dance has European links. This symposium will explore the issue by presenting aspects of Protestant music traditions. It hopes to identify and clarify elements which are held in common with other cultural and regional groups within Ireland and Britain, and will also observe the involvement of Protestants in the past and present practice and transmission of Traditional music, song and dance, and of solo and marching band musics. The key-note address by John Gray, director of the Linenhall Library, Belfast, will be supported by a series of 20-minute talks by people from a variety of music interests. The proceedings be published, and thereby it is hoped that the availability of well-founded information about the nature of Protestant music traditions and their relationship to other music traditions in Ireland, Britain and Europe will enhance mutual understanding, assist the establishment of common cultural ground and help disperse feelings of insecurity. Draft Programme 10.00 am Introduction Vallely, Fintan (flute player and researcher, Academy for Irish Cultural Heritages, University of Ulster) Introduction: Perceptions of Traditional musics 10.20 am Cultural Overview John Gray, (Director, Linenhall Library, Belfast): Social And Cultural Views Of The Presbyterian 10.45am - 11.15 coffee 11.15 Existing practices, revival initiatives and Teaching Mullen, Pastor Alvin (flute aficionado and musician, Enniskillen) The Flute Band Tradition 11.40 Hanna, David (cultural organiser, Altnaveigh House Trust): Revival And Education In A Traditional Music Aesthetic. 12.05 Singleton, Lewis (cultural organiser, Co. Armagh) - Reviving And Promoting Fiddling And Piping In Markethill 12.30 Bailie, Sam (piping instructor and educationalist): Popular Education In Piping And Drumming 13.00 Lunch 2.00 Instrumental dedication' Garvin, Wilbert (piper, researcher, and educationalist, Co. Antrim): Uilleann Pipes And Piping In Ulster And Ireland 2.25 Bingham, Tara (flute player, Traditional music, Comber and Dublin) Growing Up With Dance Music In Co. Down 2.50 Wilson, Fionnuala (fiddle player and radio producer, Portglenone) Fiddling In Antrim 3.15 coffee 3.45 Antiquarianism, collecting and song Hamilton, Colin (flute maker and researcher Belfast and West Cork): The 19th Century Music And Song Collectors. 4.10 Moulden, John (song collector and researcher): Ulster-Scots Influence On The Sam Henry Song Collection 4.35 Singing Traditions Mullen, Brian (BBC Foyle, singer, collector and radio presenter): Orange Songs Within The Irish Tradition 5.00 Radford, Katy (anthropologist and researcher): Loyalist Song And Singing Practices 5.25 Questions, discussion, conclusion Registration fee £8 (includes coffee and light lunch) Contact John Moulden JMoul81075[at]aol.com Fintan Vallely Tel: 028 7137 5304 Fax 028 7137 5435; Mobile 07966 51 51 54 Email - f.vallely[at]ulster.ac.uk http://www.arts.ulst.ac.uk/academy/events.htm | |
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3771 | 13 February 2003 05:59 |
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Ir-D CFP Irish Geographies and Contested Spaces of the Atlantic | |
Dave Featherstone | |
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djfeath[at]liverpool.ac.uk] Subject: CFP Irish Geographies and the Contested Spaces of the Atlantic (fwd) Conference of Irish Geographers, May 2nd-4th 2003 Trinity College Dublin Session on: Irish Geographies and the Contested Spaces of the Atlantic The contested circuits and networks that make up the Atlantic world have acquired renewed prominence in debates in geography, history and social and cultural theory (Gilroy, 1993, Linebaugh and Rediker, 2000, Ogborn, 2000, Roach, 1996). These debates have a particular relevance for engagements with the geographies of both Ireland and the Irish (Rogers, 1996, Whelan, 1996, Wilson, 1998). Linebaugh and Rediker's work has situated the Irish as part of motley alliances of a multi-ethnic Atlantic Working Class in the early modern period. Noel Ignatiev's work by contrast has focused on how the Irish 'became white' through adopting particular exclusionary ways of negotiating their location within trans-Atlantic networks (Ignatiev, 1995). This session seeks to bring together both theoretical and empirical engagements with these debates. It seeks to consider what geography can gain from an engagement with current work on the spaces of the Atlantic, particularly from an insistence on viewing Ireland as bound up with cultural and political networks that traverse the Atlantic. The session seeks to explore what thinking geographically can add to these debates. It also seeks to consider how detailed contextual work on the geographies of Ireland and the Irish might reconfigure debates on the cultural and political spaces of the Atlantic. Themes that could be addressed include: . What are the shifting geographies of multi-ethnic co-operation and antagonism? . How were trans-Atlantic networks negotiated and produced through official or subaltern political activity? . What do these debates mean for contemporary Irish identities? . What can thinking geographically add to debates about contested Atlantic political and cultural networks? . What kind of gendered dynamics are produced through these networks? . How does this work revision existing imaginative geographies of Ireland? Those interested in submitting a paper should send an abstract of up to 300 words by 28th February 2003 to: Dave Featherstone, Department of Geography, University of Liverpool. djfeath[at]liv.ac.uk Department of Geography, Roxby Building, Liverpool University, Liverpool L69 7ZT. 0(0 44) 151 7942845. See also conference website at http://www.tcd.ie/Geography/CIG/ | |
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3772 | 13 February 2003 05:59 |
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njh35 | |
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Subject: RE: Ir-D John Ford and James Joyce I cannot decide whether this is fiendishly clever or decidedly dubious! I guess the trick would be to explore the background and work of Dorothy Johnson who wrote the original(The Man Who shot Liberty Valance-The film was adapted by Willis Goldbek and James Warner Bellah) If a connection (Irish? or Joyce?) can be made then I suppose its possible... Joan ===== Original Message From irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk ===== >From: patrick maume >To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk >Subject: Ir-D John Ford and James Joyce > >From: Patrick Maume >When browsing the Web recently I came across an essay in the American >Catholic magazine CRISIS which argues that THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY >VALANCE is actually a concealed adaptation of THE DEAD (John Wayne as >Michael Furey, James Stewart as Gabriel, Vera Miles as Gretta). Any >takers, or is this too farfetched for words? > Best wishes, > Patrick > >http://www.crisismagazine.com/october2002/feature3.htm >---------------------- >patrick maume | |
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3773 | 14 February 2003 05:59 |
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Email Patrick O'Sullivan | |
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For information... P.O'S. TI: Rural women and urban extravagance in late nineteenth-century Britain AU: Helland_J JN: Rural history, Oct 2002, Vol.13, No.2, pp.179-198 AB: This essay discusses two exhibitions that romanticised the rural Celtic fringes of Britain for consumption in London, the `metropolis of the world'. Alice Hart's reconstructed Donegal Village at the Irish Exhibition (1888), organised under the auspices of the Donegal Industrial Fund, assuaged the reality of poverty in the Congested Districts; the Duchess of Sutherland's faux Highland cottage at the Victorian Era Exhibition (1897), organised by Scottish Home Industries, suggested hunting, fishing and scenic views rather than land reform and emigration. While the differences between the organisations inform the parts they played in exhibitions, they clearly and precisely converge in one respect: both advertised, glorified and sold the rural when existence in Donegal and in the Highlands was financially precarious and disappearing. They also share another characteristic: the female patrons, their associations and the female workers have ironically disappeared from historical writings while still visible are the colonised representations of exhibitions in which they participated. This essay seeks to recollect the historical moment at which the two associations flourished, examine how each group performed its self-appointed task and analyse their places as urban enthusiasts of the rural experience. Reprinted by permission of Cambridge University Press. An electronic version of this article can be accessed via the internet at http://journals.cambridge.org IS: 0956-7933 DT: Article DC: Anthropology SD: History Rural studies Rural history Women Exhibitions Rural poverty Industrial history Victorian Age GD: United Kingdom Northern Ireland Scotland | |
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3774 | 14 February 2003 05:59 |
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WallsAMP@aol.com | |
From: WallsAMP[at]aol.com
Subject: Census questions Dear Paddy, The Census data (so far), despite of the lack of detail already raises some interesting issues. It does seem as though, as you say, people of Irish-born parentage or heritage did not seem to define themselves as Irish in great numbers. The number of Irish-born people would be interesting to know, as these numbers have inevitably declined during the 1990s. Scotland was not entirely left out of the analysis on religion (there is a UK table), but the detail on Catholics was not available and Scottish statistics on ethnicity do appear to be missing. Both these points are interesting in relation to the Irish as there was a lot of resistance in Scotland to including an Irish ethnic category and changing 1991 ethnic categories overall, and an initial desire not to have a religion question at all. Overall it looks as though our arguments about the large Irish ethnic group will have to be revised..... In my recent consultations with the Irish community on mental health, people keep referring to the issue of Irish people not referring to themselves as such (meaning second generation). It is inferred that this is a problem. But is it? Paddy Walls | |
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3775 | 14 February 2003 05:59 |
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Peter Hart | |
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Subject: Re: a note from Newfoundland Whether retention of immigrant ethnicity (or self-conscious ethnicity) is positive or negative is a matter of personal or political perspective. However, the fact of its absence, at least as recorded in the census, is very interesting, and I look forward to the debate as to its meaning. There is a possibly similar phenomenon in Newfoundland, whereby declared Irish ethnicity or descent has always (since the 1940s) lagged far behind the actual proportion of the population descended from Irish settlers - and well behind the Catholic population, often taken as a very rough equivalent. Interestingly, this doesn't seem to change very much when people are allowed to give multiple replies - although most then give Irish and English or French, showing an interesting acknowledgement of mixed heritage. This despite a common public (and positive) presumption - now shared and even encouraged by govt. agencies - that Newfoundland is peculiarly Irish. So the census appears to run very much against expectation and - in one sense - reality. Many Newfoundlanders seem to identify with the island and its history, or with the Canadian federation (and previously, perhaps, with the empire/commonwealth). Given that most Irish migrants to Newfoundland arrived before 1830, this is a very well- and long-established - even founding - group, and so different indeed from the British situation. However, there may be factors in common. It would be terrifically interesting to see a conference organized on this question.... Peter Hart | |
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3776 | 14 February 2003 05:59 |
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Gary Kenneth Peatling | |
From: Gary Kenneth Peatling
Subject: Re: Ir-D UK Census 2001, 'White Irish' 2 Dear Paddy and Paddy From a broader perspective on migration, it may be worth commenting that the census results are interesting in this and a number of other ways in suggesting (if interpreted at face value at any rate) that the UK population is less diverse and changing less rapidly than is often suggested. Not only is the number of "Irish" in Britain smaller than many expected, but so too, of course, was the proportion of Catholics in Northern Ireland, and is the proportion of non-whites in Britain. I seem to remember a story in certain British newspapers in Sept 2000 which suggested that whites were "bound" to be a minority in Britain by 2100 (and, incidentally, if you believe the Daily Express and MigrationwatchUK amongst others, you'd get the impression that such a development is likely to happen inside a couple of months ...) There are issues of course about the accuracy of census data, and, as Paddy W. suggests, about whether certain groups are reluctant to describe themselves in a certain way. But the range of such issues that these results are forcing us to talk about are strikingly different from those discussed when the census was actually conducted. I seem to remember in April 2001 certain UK newspapers (e.g., Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail) suggesting that the way the census was formulated was part of a conspiracy (it's not an inappropriate term to use) to underrepresent "middle England" (you know the sort of argument: "why is there a box for Irish and not for English, etc"). The results actually suggest altogether different elements of the UK population are underrepresented. Indeed, I notice today that the Telegraph (at least in its "expat newsletter") has dropped all thought of such a conspiracy, and is instead euphoric about the fact that 71% of the population apparently describe themselves as "Christian" (headline "Census proves the force of Christianity"), such facts demonstrating presumably that the loathed "multiculturalists" actually represent a microscopic proportion of the British population. Whatever happens the journalists are always right, you see. But I have started ranting, so I shall end the message now. Gary Kenneth Peatling | |
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3777 | 14 February 2003 05:59 |
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Email Patrick O'Sullivan | |
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Our thanks to Ir-D members who brought these issues to our attention. Some results of the UK 2001 Census have now been released, are discussed on the National Statistics web site, and are being discussed in the media... The census data on ethnicity and religion are (sort of) available. The discussion on the web site is quite basic - and you find yourself (irritatingly) having to get out your calculator to try and work out the figures upon which this discussion is based. More work obviously needs to be done on the detail of the Irish. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/default.asp http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/profiles/commentaries/ethnicity. asp http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=293 On the question of ethnic identity (NOT, remember, place of birth) the web site says... 'White Irish people make up 1.2 per cent of the population of England and Wales as a whole, with the highest proportion in the London borough of Brent (6.9 per cent of the population). The largest proportions of White Other (that is, not White British or White Irish) people are in central London, particularly the borough of Kensington and Chelsea (25.3 per cent).' Scotland seems to be left out in this part of the analysis. Scotland also seems to be left out of the analysis of religion. All this would suggest that not a great number of people of Irish parentage or heritage felt able or willing to identify themselves as 'White Irish' in the UK Census of 2001. P.O'S. - -- Patrick O'Sullivan Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit Email Patrick O'Sullivan Email Patrick O'Sullivan Personal Fax 0044 (0) 709 236 9050 Irish-Diaspora list Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/ Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net Irish Diaspora Research Unit Department of Social Sciences and Humanities University of Bradford Bradford BD7 1DP Yorkshire England | |
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3778 | 16 February 2003 05:59 |
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Sarah Morgan | |
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To: Subject: Fw: PG Studentship This was originally posted to the social policy list. I really think the topic - "Leadership in transition? Inter-generational conflicts and social capital in ethnic minority communities" - would be very suited to the study of the Irish in Britain. Please pass on to all budding researchers! Sarah Morgan. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Phillipson" To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: PG Studentship APOLOGIES FOR CROSS-POSTING KEELE UNIVERSITY DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINOLOGY AND SCHOOL OF SOCIAL RELATIONS ESRC/ODPM RESEARCH STUDENTSHIP Leadership in transition? Inter-generational conflicts and social capitalin ethnic minority communities An opportunity has arisen for a suitably-qualified person to conduct research leading to a PhD into questions of leadership in ethnic minority communities. The research will seek to address the impact of changing patterns of leadership on conflict and cohesion within those communities,and on the capacity of minority communities to access public institutions and social resources. The fieldwork will be conducted in Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent. The project will be supervised by Dr. Ian Loader (Criminology) and Profs. Chris Phillipson and Pnina Werbner (Social Relations), in collaboration with the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister. The studentship will be full-time for 3 years from September 2003 and be paid at a starting stipend of #11,000 p.a., plus research expenses. University fees will be met in full. Informal enquiries are welcome and can be made to Chris Phillipson c.r.phillipson[at]keele.ac.uk) or Ian Loader (i.loader[at]keele.ac.uk). Further particulars and application forms available from: Postgraduate Office, Keele University, Staffs, ST5 5BG. Tel: 01782 584126; fax: 01782 632343; email: m.terry[at]keele.ac.uk Closing date for applications: Wednesday 5 March 2003. Interviews will be held on: Monday 17 March 2003 ---------------------- Chris Phillipson Professor of Applied Social Studies and Social Gerontology Centre for Social Gerontology, Keele University Keele, Staffs Tel. (0)1782 584062 Email: c.r.phillipson[at]keele.ac.uk | |
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3779 | 17 February 2003 05:59 |
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Email Patrick O'Sullivan | |
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
For information... P.O'S. - -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Jean Cormack Email: CormackM[at]cofc.edu Call for Papers: Saints and Pilgrims around the Atlantic A conference with the provisional title "Saints and Pilgrims around the Atlantic" is being planned at the College of Charleston in South Carolina for the spring of 2004, probably late February - a wonderful time to be in the south! Although the precise format of the conference is still under discussion, we want participants to be able to read the papers in advance of the conference itself to enable us to organize respondents and/or panel discussions. We also hope to publish a proceedings fairly rapidly. This means that we will be looking for complete, annotated papers by the end of Dec. 2003. As for the topic itself, we are looking for papers focusing on the cult of saints - veneration, pilgrimage, etc. - with the Atlantic as the connecting factor if possible. Ideal papers would, for example, compare the cult of a given saint, or forms of devotion in general, in Europe and among the immigrant community in the US; discuss pilgrimage practices on either side of (or across) the Atlantic; look at how vitae or motifs change with time and place; etc. Studies of specific saints or cults in areas washed by the Atlantic will also be acceptable, and we would like to have a variety of approaches - historical, art historical, archaeological, etc. If interested, please contact: Margaret Cormack cormackm[at]cofc.edu | |
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3780 | 17 February 2003 05:59 |
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Email Patrick O'Sullivan | |
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
I am off to Donegal tomorrow for a week or so, for rest and recuperation... If any member of the Ir-D list is going to be in Inishowen over the next few days, let me know - and we can meet for a natter. Russell Murray has kindly agreed to take over the running of the Irish-Diaspora list. Emails sent to will be picked up by Russell and redistributed in the usual way. Emails sent to my personal email addresses will await my return. My thanks to Russell. Paddy - -- Patrick O'Sullivan Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit Email Patrick O'Sullivan Email Patrick O'Sullivan Personal Fax 0044 (0) 709 236 9050 Irish-Diaspora list Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/ Irish Diaspora Net Archive http://www.irishdiaspora.net Irish Diaspora Research Unit Department of Social Sciences and Humanities University of Bradford Bradford BD7 1DP Yorkshire England | |
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