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30 April 1999 07:04  
  
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:04:24 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Irish ethnomusicology exhibition MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.DBD5cB242.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9904.txt]
  
Ir-D Irish ethnomusicology exhibition
  
Is any Irish-Diaspora list member who is based in Ireland able to visit
this exhibition and share impressions?

P.O'S.


Forwarded on behalf of...
Tony Galt

Irish ethnomusicology and oral history exhibition

On April 18th, 1999, the multi-media exhibition entitled "The
Northern Fiddler" was launched at the O'Neil Interpetive Center for
Irish Music in Smithfield, Dublin. The exhibition is based on
ethnomusicological and oral history fieldwork conducted by cultural
anthropologist Allen Feldman between 1974 and 1979 in Southwest
Donegal and Southern Tyrone, and a visual ethnography by his
collaborator, photographer and artist Eamonn O' Doherty.

The Northern Fiddler Project was the first, and to-date, the only,
effort to conduct salvage anthropology of regional Irish performance
culture through an interdiscplinary synthesis of ethnography,
ethnomusicology, oral history, and visual anthropology. The project
documented, contextualized and analyzed the music and life and oral
histories of a generational cohort of elderly musicians and story-
tellers who are now all deceased. The fieldwork resulted in the book
"The Northern Fiddler: Music and Musicians of Donegal and Tyrone (
Blackstaff Press: 1980) by Feldman and O'Doherty which is now out-of-
print. The exhibition displays photographs,drawings and maps by
O'Doherty and features transcripts of both oral history material and
field recordings collected by Feldman, who also contributed an up-
dated ethnographic introduction for the exhibition.

(Allen Feldman is better known as the author of Formations of
Violence: the Narrative of the Body and Political Terror in Northern
Ireland, University of Chicago Press: 1991). The exhibition is
sponsored by the Irish Traditional Music Archive, the Arts Council of
Northern Ireland, and the Arts Council of Ireland. The "Northern
Fiddler" exhibition will be on view in Dublin until September 1999 at
which time it will move to the Ulster Folk and Transport Museum
outside of Belfast. The exhibition will travel to the United States
and Europe in 2000.
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30 April 1999 18:03  
  
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:03:24 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Guinan Novel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.1f18E1f243.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9904.txt]
  
Ir-D Guinan Novel
  
Patrick Maume
  
From: Patrick Maume

Guinan Novel


From: Patrick Maume
Thanks for the reference. Does the
Library of Congress do inter-library
loans?
THE ISLAND PARISH is by Guinan -
there are some startlingly patronising
attitudes to the parishioners (at one
point the priest trips over a cradle &
finds it contains a piglet!) but it's a
nice enough piece of its type with a few
nice slaps at Canon Sheehan for his
overelaborate & melodramatic plots. I
don't think the other book is by the
same Guinan.
Guinan is an interesting figure - I
think he wrote better than Sheehan
though he was less intellectually
sophisticated. He certainly gives a
more concrete sense of how poor the
people he describes were than Sheehan
(who tends to sentimentalise on the
issue). Catherine Candy & J.H. Murphy
have written well on him but I think
there's more to be said.
He certainly had a big diaspora
readership - like Sheehan - & the
decision to publish THE PATRIOTS in
America only reflects this (tho' it also
infuriates those of us on this side of
the Atlantic who hunt in vain for a
copy).
Best wishes,
Patrick.


On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:50:24 +0100
irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

> From:irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:50:24 +0100
> Subject: Ir-D Guinan Novel
> To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
>
>
> From
> Brian McGinn
> Alexandria, Virginia
> bmcginn[at]clark.net
>
>
> Paddy,
>
> Some months back there was a query on
the Ir-D List about a Canon Guinan novel
> called The Patriots. I made a mental
note of the author/title, but cannot
> recall the name of the poster. I was
at the Library of Congress last
> Friday, for the first time in six
months, researching my aforementioned
> 'First Irishman' encyclopedia entry.
While waiting--lots of that at the LC,
> where there's no stack access and
books take 40 minutes or longer to
> arrive--I checked the computer
catalogue for Guinan's work.
>
> Here is what I found, for you to pass
along to the querist if it's not too
> late:
>
> AUTHOR: Guinan, Joseph, 1870?-
> TITLE: The patriots, by Joseph Canon
Guinan, with introduction by Michael
> J. Curley
> PUBLISHED: New York, Benziger, 1928
> DESCRIPTION: 332 p. 19 cm.
> CALL NUMBER: PZ3.G943 Pa
>
> Other Guinan holdings at the LC
include The soggart (sic) aroon, by Rev.
> Joseph Cannon (sic) Guinan (Dublin,
Cork: Talbot Press, 1944) and two
> others whose author/s may not be the
Canon:
>
> AUTHOR: Guinan, Joseph
> TITLE: There's a rainbow forming; by
Joseph Guinan, [instr....
> PUBLISHED: [n.p., n.d.]
> REQUEST IN: Performing Arts Reading
Room
>
> and
>
> AUTHOR: Guinan, Joseph
> TITLE: The island parish
> PUBLISHED: 1908 Dublin and Waterford,
M.H. Gill & son ltd....
>
>
> Brian McGinn
> Alexandria, Virginia
> bmcginn[at]clark.net
>
>
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3 May 1999 11:40  
  
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:40:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Celtic Minstrels and Orange Songsters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.c4EE4245.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D Celtic Minstrels and Orange Songsters
  
David Cooper, University of Leeds, England...
  
From David Cooper, University of Leeds, England...

Dear Paddy

You may be interested in my next little foray into Ulster musical studies:

http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/DeptInfo/Staff/DGC/celtmus.htm

best wishes

Dr David Cooper

Senior Lecturer
Director of the Electronic Studio
Dept of Music
University of Leeds
Leeds LS2 9JT
U.K.

Tel. 0113 233 2578
Fax. 0113 233 2586

http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/DeptInfo/Staff/DGC/dgc.html

And this is the first paragraph of that 'foray'...

Lámh Dearg: Celtic Minstrels and Orange Songsters
David Cooper (University of Leeds)

'The leap from flautist in an Orange band to 'Celtic Musician' may at
first sight seem fraught with difficulty. On one side of the chasm which
appears to separate these two musical and cultural dispositions lies the
loyalist triumphalism of 'The Sash My Father Wore', an encomium to the
Protestants who fought in William of Orange's Irish campaign and their
successors, and on the other, the plaintive tone of songs like Máire
Bhuí Ní Laoghaire's 'Cath Chéim an Fhia', which describes a battle
between the mid-eighteenth-century agrarian protestors, the Whiteboys,
and the English army. The chasm seems so wide, that, in some parts of
Northern Ireland, the attempt to cross it can result in ostracism or
even physical violence....'

P.O'S.


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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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3 May 1999 11:48  
  
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:48:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Guinan Novel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.D36fAff244.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D Guinan Novel
  
Brian McGinn
  
From: "Brian McGinn"


In answer to Patrick Maume's query:

Yes, the Library of Congress does make inter-library loans, to libraries in
and outside the U.S.
For policies and prices, go to http://lcweb.loc.gov/rr/loan/

Another possibility would be to check with U.S. antiquarian and
out-of-print book dealers that specialize in Irish titles. Two of the
better ones, from personal experience:

Carney Books (operated by John and Margaret Carney), 44 Elm St., Oneonta,
NY 13820. Telephone: 607-432-5360. No fax or e-mail listed.

Quixote Books (operated by Denise Byrne Gogarty), P.O. Box 59101, Potomac,
MD 20854.
Tel: 301-469-6215. Fax: 301-365-4606. E-Mail: dgogarty[at]erols. com
Web site: http://www.quixotebooks.com

Other Ir-D members in the U.S. can undoubtedly add to these two
suggestions.


Brian McGinn
Alexandria, Virginia
bmcginn[at]clark.net
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4 May 1999 14:40  
  
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:40:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Arts News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.878Dd249.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D Arts News
  
[Two items of arts news might be of interest, below... In her little
book, Roderic O'Conor, Paula Murphy (1992) says, p. 27: 'He was an
infrequent visitor to Ireland throughout his life and seems to have been
totally unconcerned with his roots. On the death of his father he
inherited the family estate in Roscommon, which obliged him to maintain
contact, mostly by letter, and his subsequent landlord status gave him
considerable financial independence...'

I have never seen an O'Conor print, and wonder what such an obsessive
colourist would do in that medium. Reports from Pont-Avon would be
welcome. P.O'S.]



- - The National Gallery [of Ireland]
paid Stg182k for an old master featuring an
Irish-born Spanish diplomat. The full-length portrait of Richard
Wall is by Louis-Michel van Loo (1707-1771). Wall was born in
Waterford in 1694 and emigrated to Spain at the age of 24. He
eventually became Ambassador to Britain before returning to Spain
where he was appointed foreign minister and later secretary of state.

- - An exhibition of the prints of Roderic O'Conor (1860-1940) is
currently showing at the Museum of Pont-Avon, Place de l'Hotel de
Ville, Pont-Avon, France. O'Conor, considered to be one of the most
advanced Irish artists of his generation, spent many years in France.
This exhibition details O'Conor's relationship with the French
printmaker Armaud Seguin, who introduced O'Conor to the technique of
etching. O'Conor's prints are rare, as he did not publish them as
editions and this exhibition presents a wonderful opportunity. For
more information contact +33-2-98-06-14-43.

taken from

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
The Irish Emigrant Arts Review
Cathedral Building, Middle Street, Galway, Ireland.

Editor: Miriam Stewart

Tel: +353-91-569158 Email: miriam[at]emigrant.ie Fax: +353-91-569178
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 0521605
Fax International +44 870 0521605

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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4 May 1999 14:48  
  
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:48:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Ellis Island website MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.F65d5D8248.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D Ellis Island website
  
The National Park Service, USA, has created a useful web site
that serves as a guide to the monument and to the museum, archives, and
library. Below are the URL and contents.

Ellis Island


Ellis Island History

Visitor Activities

Activities for School Groups

Museum Exhibits

Museum Collections, Archives & Library

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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 0521605
Fax International +44 870 0521605

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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4 May 1999 16:40  
  
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:40:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Scots-Irish MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.12E7e6F250.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D Scots-Irish
  
On the Scotch-Irish/Scots-Irish...

I find I have the following item in my databases. Clearly not a very
substantial piece of work. But maybe a first trawl through the material
and the debates?

P.O'S.


ERIC_NO: ED360981
TITLE: The Scots-Irish Americans: A Guide to Reference and Information
Sources for Research.
AUTHOR: McNeal, Michele L.
LANGUAGE: English
DESCRIPTORS: Annotated Bibliographies; Archives; *Audiovisual Aids;
*Ethnic Groups; *Information Sources; *Library Collections; Museums;
Organizations (Groups); Reference Materials; Research Tools; *Resource
Materials; Scholarly Journals; United States History
IDENTIFIERS: *Scotch Irish Americans
ABSTRACT: An introduction is provided to the materials available on
Scots-Irish Americans. It combines historical and bibliographic research
to create both a guide to sources, and a base list upon which
collections on the Scots-Irish American experience can be created. The
introduction provides a survey of the Scots-Irish American experience in
America. This section is followed by an annotated list of English
language reference and other sources on this ethnic group. Sources are
arranged in the following categories: (1) general reference works (8
sources); (2) special reference works (4 sources); (3) works devoted to
Scots-Irish Americans (20 sources); (4) general works (24 sources); (5)
periodical articles (15 sources); (6) audiovisual materials and
unpublished manuscripts (8 sources); and (7) libraries, archives,
museums, and organizations (15 sources). A subject index provides access
to specific topics. (SLD)
GEOGRAPHIC_SOURCE: U.S.; Ohio
CLEARINGHOUSE_NO: IR054664
PUBLICATION_TYPE: 042; 131
PUBLICATION_DATE: 1993
EDRS_PRICE: EDRS Price - MF01/PC03 Plus Postage.
COMMENTS: 58p.; Master's Research Paper, Kent State University.
PAGE: 58; 1
LEVEL: 1


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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 0521605
Fax International +44 870 0521605

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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4 May 1999 21:40  
  
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:40:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D John H. Finlay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.06Ab1b251.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D John H. Finlay
  
Patrick Maume
  
From: Patrick Maume

Scots-Irish; John H. Finlay novel


From: Patrick Maume
As we're on the subject, does anyone
know anything about a certain John H.
Finlay who in 1915 published at
Cincinnati a novel called THE ORANGEMAN,
a highly idealised account of his 1820s
Co. Monaghan ancestors. He seems to
have been a Presbyterian, for in Chicago
his book was sold by a Presbyterian
Church publisher [according to Brown
IRELAND IN FICTION]. The book's
picture of Orange saints persecuted by
Catholic savages is downright hilarious
to anyone familiar with the actual
history of early nineteenth-century
Monaghan Orangeism, but it has some
interesting examples of anti-Catholic
prejudice and of the Ulster-Scots origin
legend (some of the latter still recur
in secularised form in certain
contemporary thrillers).
I know it is highly unlikely that
anyone on this list will actually have
information about Mr. Finlay, but as I
plan to write a paper on the book next
year I thought this request migth be
worth a try.
Best wishes,
Patrick Maume

On Tue, 4 May 1999 16:40:56 +0100
irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

> From:irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:40:56 +0100
> Subject: Ir-D Scots-Irish
> To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
>
>
>
> On the Scotch-Irish/Scots-Irish...
>
> I find I have the following item in my
databases. Clearly not a very
> substantial piece of work. But maybe
a first trawl through the material
> and the debates?
>
> P.O'S.
>
>
> ERIC_NO: ED360981
> TITLE: The Scots-Irish Americans: A
Guide to Reference and Information
> Sources for Research.
> AUTHOR: McNeal, Michele L.
> LANGUAGE: English
> DESCRIPTORS: Annotated Bibliographies;
Archives; *Audiovisual Aids;
> *Ethnic Groups; *Information Sources;
*Library Collections; Museums;
> Organizations (Groups); Reference
Materials; Research Tools; *Resource
> Materials; Scholarly Journals; United
States History
> IDENTIFIERS: *Scotch Irish Americans
> ABSTRACT: An introduction is provided
to the materials available on
> Scots-Irish Americans. It combines
historical and bibliographic research
> to create both a guide to sources, and
a base list upon which
> collections on the Scots-Irish
American experience can be created. The
> introduction provides a survey of the
Scots-Irish American experience in
> America. This section is followed by
an annotated list of English
> language reference and other sources
on this ethnic group. Sources are
> arranged in the following categories:
(1) general reference works (8
> sources); (2) special reference works
(4 sources); (3) works devoted to
> Scots-Irish Americans (20 sources);
(4) general works (24 sources); (5)
> periodical articles (15 sources); (6)
audiovisual materials and
> unpublished manuscripts (8 sources);
and (7) libraries, archives,
> museums, and organizations (15
sources). A subject index provides
access
> to specific topics. (SLD)
> GEOGRAPHIC_SOURCE: U.S.; Ohio
> CLEARINGHOUSE_NO: IR054664
> PUBLICATION_TYPE: 042; 131
> PUBLICATION_DATE: 1993
> EDRS_PRICE: EDRS Price - MF01/PC03
Plus Postage.
> COMMENTS: 58p.; Master's Research
Paper, Kent State University.
> PAGE: 58; 1
> LEVEL: 1
>
>
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5 May 1999 09:40  
  
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:40:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Scots-Irish MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.302c247.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D Scots-Irish
  
FNeal33544@aol.com
  
From: FNeal33544[at]aol.com

Subject: Re: Ir-D Scots-Irish

For what its worth, a book I have may be of interest. It is

James G Leyburn, THE SCOTCH-IRISH: A SOCIAL HISTORY, (University of
North Carolina Press,1962)

ISBN 0-8078-0843-1

Frank Neal
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5 May 1999 09:45  
  
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:45:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D ACIS Conference MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.Ce3A5e77246.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D ACIS Conference
  
Johann Norstedt
  
From: Johann Norstedt

A revised-up-to-date-but-probably-not-quite-final PROGRAM for next week's
(12-15 May 1999) ACIS convention is up at the ACIS website at

http://www.english.vt.edu/ACIS/FRONTPAGE.HTML

just click on ACIS 37TH ANNUAL CONFERENCE PROGRAM.

As you'll see, there are still a few chairs available, and there might be
some slight sessional rearrangement.

Get in touch with me if you have questions or comments:

jnorsted[at]vt.edu

I'll see some of you next week!

Johann
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6 May 1999 09:40  
  
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:40:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Interesting Times MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.dAcea4253.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D Interesting Times
  
Interesting times in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern
Ireland...

After today's elections Scotland will have a Parliament, and Wales will
have an Assembly - and whatever constitutional constraints there may be
on such bodies the indications are that, at the very least, they provide
a focus. By the way, the received wisdom on Scottish reasons for
finally growing weary of the United Kingdom indites the radical, right-
wing assault by the governments of Mrs. Thatcher and Mr. Major on the
cherished Scottish educational system, the health service, and the
Scottish professions.

Now, the Scots seem to be picking and choosing from their heritage and
traditions (I put no scare quotes around 'traditions'). The Welsh seem
to be making it up as they go along. One consequence of these
developments - intentional, no doubt - is that they relativise the
partition of Ireland. If the larger island can be divided into three
parts, it becomes unremarkable that the smaller island is divided into
two.

Ireland is often cited in the discussions of possible futures for Wales
and Scotland, though whether it is Ireland in the post-colonial turmoil
and isolation of the 1920s and 1930s or Ireland as the Celtic Tiger of
the 1990s depends on your source. The indications are that the new
bodies in Wales and Scotland want a new relationship with Ireland. The
details of that new relationship are hard to follow in the English media
- - but the media here have at last begun to develop a debate about
'Englishness', as opposed to 'Britishness'.

So, what of the future of the United Kingdom? An interesting scenario
was recently proposed by Jeremy Hardy, a left wing, radical,
intellectual comedian. (Yes, we still have them here.) He could
foresee Scotland opting out of the United Kingdom, then Wales. Finally
England would pull out of the United Kingdom, and say to the Ulster
Unionists, 'You're it.'

P.O'S.
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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 0521605
Fax International +44 870 0521605

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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6 May 1999 09:45  
  
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:45:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Life of Fr. Thomas Burke MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.dbf81252.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D Life of Fr. Thomas Burke
  
Patrick Maume
  
From: Patrick Maume
Subject: W.J. Fitzpatrick's Life of Fr. Thomas Burke


From: Patrick Maume
I have been (rather hastily) reading
some books from the University
library here which I are slightly
overdue and I need to give back.
One of these is W.J.
Fitzpatrick's life of Fr. Thomas
Burke (1830-83), the famous
Dominican preacher. I had got it
out from curiosity after hearing a paper
on Burke at last year's ACIS conference.
Having read it I thought it might be a
good idea to share a few observations
with the List.
(1) Use of Irish - Burke's parents
were irish-speakers and he spent his
early childhood with an Irish-speaking
nurse in Clifden. He could certainly
speak Irish (one anecdote depicts him
speaking it to convince a foreigner that
he could speak Chinese!) but does not
seem to have preached in it.
(2) Burke comes across as a jovial
and good-humoured personality, perhaps
with a masochistic streak (though it is
not easy to judge someone who
lived in a world without
anaesthetics and operated within a
religious worldview more ascetic than
might be found at the present day). His
mother used to beat him very severely
when he was a child - indeed the picture
of Mrs. Burke which emerges from the
book is by no means as unreservedly
sunny as her son & his biographer
assume.
(3) There are some interesting
sidelights on the culture of charity
sermons (though Fitzpatrick take sit for
granted that his readers are acquainted
with the practice) - alas, some of
Burke's eloquent pronouncements on the
benevolence of Catholic orphanages and
Magdalen asylums, the proper role of
women, and the supernatural virtues of
priests make sad reading nowadays though
he seems to have lived up to
them himself.
(4) There is a definite tension in
Burke between patriotic/nationalist
sentiments (most famously expressed in
his refutations of Froude, delivered on
a lecture tour of America - he said
that only when he came to America did
he feel a free man) and a basic
conservatism. He was a stout defender,
nay idealiser, of the Pope's Temporal
Power - he was trained at Perugia
in the Papal States and had many
friends in the Curia (though at the
Vatican Council, where he attended as a
theologian advising the Bishop of
Dromore, he opposed the definition of
infallibilty as inopportune)and had a
wide circle of friends among the
Catholic Whig element - he was a friend
of Judge Keogh, Cardinal Cullen, Bishop
Moriarty (of 'hell is not hot enough for
the Fenian leaders' fame) T.H. Burke
(the Under-Secretary murdered in the
Phoenix Park in 1882) and of Cardinal
McCabe. Though Fitzpatrick does not
dwell on this, it is clear that Burke
shared McCabe's distrust of the Land
League - towards the end of his life he
remarked to a friend apropos of Land
League criticism of conservative clerics
that it was a pity that as England
showed signs of moving back to
Catholicism Ireland should start moving
away from it. (He was almost as active
a preacher in England as in Ireland; he
spent some years as Master of Novices
for the English Province of the
DOminican Order.) He was rather
embarrassed at the fervour of some of
his nationalistic expressions in his
American lectures - which were
delivered extempore and recorded by
shorthand reporters - especially when
Cardinal Cullen got to hear of them. At
the same time it is clear that he loved
Ireland & felt the Irish Catholics were
still oppressed. This tension might
provide material for some student of
nineteenth-century Irish Catholicism and
its ambivalent relations with
nationalism.
Anti-semitism: At one point
Fitzpatrick unsettlingly remarks that
Burke was by no means as prejudiced
against Jews as one might think from his
sermons on the Passion (which are not
quoted). He defended Pius IX's handling
of the Mortara case.
Darwin; Some specimens are given of
his denunciations of Darwinism. Denny
Lane the Cork Young Irelander suggests
that his conversation with Burke showed
that he was not utterly hostile to the
idea of evolution, but a sermon excerpt
on the very next page shows that Lane
was mistaken and simply projected his
own views onto Burke. This material
might be interesting for anyone studying
the Irish reception of Darwinism. (Greta
Jones of the University of Ulster has
done some useful work in this area.)
In many ways Burke does come across
as an impressive figure and I hope I'm
not being too harsh on them. It is
striking how often he was compared with
his namesake Edmund, & hailed as one of
the great orators of the age. He was
right to be unimpressed by his
contemporary fame - Sic transit gloria
mundi.
Anyone out there interested in Burke?


Patrick Maume
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:40:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Irish History in East Anglian Archives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.5Ed15a254.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D Irish History in East Anglian Archives
  
We simply can't report on every item sent to us - but this is an
interesting one. A possible model for ways of getting at all that
material of Irish interest lodged - or lost - in foreign archives...

Irish History in East Anglian Archives
Tutors Anthony Breen and Anne Jarvis
A Day School at Wensum Lodge, King Street, Norwich, England
Saturday June 19 1999
Course Fee £17 - reductions for students and unwaged

'During the 300 years of British rule Ireland was visited by statesmen,
soldiers, clerics and tourists who brought back a wealth of papers. The
day, using East Anglian examples, will trace the history of these
contacts.'

Extra-Mural Studies
Centre for Continuing Education
University of East Anglia
Norwich NR4 7TJ

No email or Web contact given in the information sent to us.

P.O'S.
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Ir-D History of Race in Science
  
The following database - brought to our attention by the Scout Report -
is a bit of a pain to use, and hardly mentions the Irish. (We are
working on that.)

But it provides a very helpful background - in effect an outline of the
issues, key figures, and key debates - for those of us who are
developing projects about physical health and mental health issues
within the Irish Diaspora.

P.O'S.

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RaceSci: History of Race in Science
http://di-145c.mit.edu/racesci/

RaceSci functions as a centralized collection of information resources
relevant to the study of the history of race in science. The site provides
comprehensive bibliographies on current scholarship; university syllabi on
race and science in regard to medicine, eugenics, rhetoric, and social
studies; recent journal articles and news items on affiliated topics;
briefly annotated links to associated sites; and a list of requests for
comment, calls for papers, and announcements for lectures and conferences.
Maintained at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, RaceSci is edited
by Evelynn Hammonds, associate professor of history of science, Michelle
Murphy, postdoctoral fellow in women's studies, and Stephanie Higgs, a
graduate student in the Program in Science, Technology, and Society. [AO]


Copyright Susan Calcari and the University of Wisconsin Board of Regents,
1994-1999. The Internet Scout Project (http://scout.cs.wisc.edu/), located
in the Computer Sciences Department of the University of Wisconsin-Madison,
provides information about the Internet to the U.S. research and education
community under a grant from the National Science Foundation, number
NCR-9712163. The Government has certain rights in this material. Permission
is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of the entire Scout
Report provided this paragraph, including the copyright notice, are
preserved on all copies.

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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:40:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Interesting Times MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.33E2a408256.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D Interesting Times
  
ppo@aber.ac.uk (Paul O' Leary)
  
From: ppo[at]aber.ac.uk (Paul O' Leary)
Subject: Re: Ir-D Interesting Times


Interesting times, indeed. I have yet to cast my vote for the National
Assembly of Wales today, but I look forward to doing so later, using a PR
system for the first time. You are right about the changing relationships
between Wales and Scotland, on the one hand, and the two parts of Ireland,
on the other. Both Edinburgh and Cardiff now have Irish consulates, both of
which seem to be intended as more than passport-stamping offices. Of course,
if the Council of the Isles comes into existence as planned in the Good
Friday agreement, then diplomatic contacts between the different parts of
the 'British' Isles will take on a new complexion.

There is another dimension to this, which you allude to, that is the
perception that the Republic has been a 'good European', and done rather
well out of it, whereas both Wales and Scotland have been locked into the
Little Englander mentality of Thatcherism and have, consequently, been
unable to participate and benefit fully from membership of the European
union. This is a complete turn around from the perception of Ireland which
once predominated as an impoverished backwater. Perhaps a re-structuring of
relationships within these islands will be accompanied by a re-orientation
towards Europe, with all that implies for Britishness and Englishness.

Paul O'Leary




>
>Interesting times in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern
>Ireland...
>
>After today's elections Scotland will have a Parliament, and Wales will
>have an Assembly - and whatever constitutional constraints there may be
>on such bodies the indications are that, at the very least, they provide
>a focus. By the way, the received wisdom on Scottish reasons for
>finally growing weary of the United Kingdom indites the radical, right-
>wing assault by the governments of Mrs. Thatcher and Mr. Major on the
>cherished Scottish educational system, the health service, and the
>Scottish professions.
>
>Now, the Scots seem to be picking and choosing from their heritage and
>traditions (I put no scare quotes around 'traditions'). The Welsh seem
>to be making it up as they go along. One consequence of these
>developments - intentional, no doubt - is that they relativise the
>partition of Ireland. If the larger island can be divided into three
>parts, it becomes unremarkable that the smaller island is divided into
>two.
>
>Ireland is often cited in the discussions of possible futures for Wales
>and Scotland, though whether it is Ireland in the post-colonial turmoil
>and isolation of the 1920s and 1930s or Ireland as the Celtic Tiger of
>the 1990s depends on your source. The indications are that the new
>bodies in Wales and Scotland want a new relationship with Ireland. The
>details of that new relationship are hard to follow in the English media
>- but the media here have at last begun to develop a debate about
>'Englishness', as opposed to 'Britishness'.
>
>So, what of the future of the United Kingdom? An interesting scenario
>was recently proposed by Jeremy Hardy, a left wing, radical,
>intellectual comedian. (Yes, we still have them here.) He could
>foresee Scotland opting out of the United Kingdom, then Wales. Finally
>England would pull out of the United Kingdom, and say to the Ulster
>Unionists, 'You're it.'
>
>P.O'S.


Dr. Paul O'Leary
Adran Hanes a Hanes Cymru/Dept. of History and Welsh History
Prifysgol Cymru Aberystwyth/University of Wales Aberystwyth
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Ir-D Famine Refugees
  
I have been having discussions by email with a postgraduate student at
the University of Toulouse, in France

Laurent Giraudeau

Home address
Laurent Giraudeau
"Jauzac"
47500 Fumel
France

[Yes, Giradeau is spelt wrongly in the email address - a mistake by the
otherwise excellent M. Wanadoo]

Laurent, who seems a very serious person, is writing a thesis on the
Irish Famine and migration to the United States. The first section of
his thesis is mostly based on Kerby Miller (yes, they have a copy of
Emigrants and Exiles in Toulouse), on Christine Kinealy and on Edwards &
Williams. And Bayor & Meagher, The New York Irish. (They don't seem to
have copies of Woodham-Smith, O Grada, or Peter Gray, the little New
Horizon volume or the new book.)

The thesis is really about Irish-American perceptions of the Irish
Famine, and the place of the Famine in the Irish-American world view.
So, Laurent is collecting material, like letters from America by Famine
refugees, reflections on family history by the descendants of Famine
refugees.

As a step towards the development of Irish Diaspora Studies and study of
the Irish Famine in France I am going to haul down a few such items from
my own shelves, photocopy them, and mail them to Laurent's postal
address - above.

I would urge every member of the Irish-Diaspora list with an interest in
the Irish Famine, and who is in a position to do so, to do the same.
Remember to include full citation information with anything you do send
to Laurent Giradeau.

Patrick O'Sullivan
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Ir-D Irish History in East Anglian Archives
  
Carmel McCaffrey
  
From: Carmel McCaffrey

Subject: Re: Ir-D Irish History in East Anglian Archives


Now which '300 years' would that be?? Maybe we Irish count differently?

Carmel McC.



> 'During the 300 years of British rule Ireland was visited by statesmen,
> soldiers, clerics and tourists who brought back a wealth of papers. The
> day, using East Anglian examples, will trace the history of these
> contacts.'
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:40:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Television and the Navvy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.DFd5ba8265.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D Television and the Navvy
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From: Patrick O'Sullivan

I have been communicating - by email and phone - with...

Emma Riggs, Development Co-ordinator
email: emma.riggs[at]independent-pictures.com
Tel. +353-1-605 3700, Fax +353-1-676 6137
37-39 Fitzwilliam Square, Dublin 2

Emma Riggs is currently researching PADDY ON THE RAILWAY, a proposed
documentary on Irish Navvies for Independent Pictures, an independent
television production company.

I will spare the Irish-Diaspora list the resume of the proposed
documentary - but that is how television works... List the cliches on
the back of an envelope, attract funding, THEN do some real research.
But, anyway, a historical approach is suggested.

Independent Pictures is most probably Ireland's largest independent
production company producing broadcast and commercials for the national
and international market. It has a good track record in producing
television documentaries - but mostly for the lighter end of the market,
and, as far as I know, nothing much with historical content. It has
ventured before into material with Irish Diaspora Studies content - I am
told that We're Here, We're Queer, We're Irish was a New York television
festival award winner.

I have the full company profile here, as an email - which I can send out
to anyone who is interested. Email me personally at
Patrick O'Sullivan

There is a Web site for Agtel, a subsidiary of Independent Pictures
at http://www.agtel.ie

If this television film gets off the ground, it might be interesting -
an exploration, perhaps, of Irish maleness? Anyone who is interested in
getting involved should contact Emma Riggs directly. Usual warnings
about work for television companies apply - but, hey, we're all grown up
people.

Patrick O'Sullivan
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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 09:40:56 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D New Island/Greater Ireland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.eDe1e261.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9905.txt]
  
Ir-D New Island/Greater Ireland
  
Brian McGinn
  
From: "Brian McGinn"



New Island/Greater Ireland

Approaching the New Island on a slightly different tack, I was struck by
the synonymous use of the term "greater Ireland." Which apparently derives
from Norse mythology, specifically the Iceland Sagas (Landnamabok,
eyrbyggja saga) in which a country alternately known as Hvitramannaland
(country of white people/white man's Land) and Irland it mikla (Ireland the
great) is discovered in the Western ocean, near Vinland (often identified
as Newfoundland).

Some modern scholars theorise that the Norse Sagas were influenced or even
inspired by Ireland's Brendan legend, which was available in Icelandic
translation as Brandanus Saga. See Regis Boyer, "The Vinland Sagas and
Brendan's Navigatio: A Comparison" in ATLANTIC VISIONS, Proceedings of the
First International Conference of the Society of Saint Brendan, Dublin and
Kerry, 1985, edited by John de Courcy Ireland and David C. Sheehy (Dun
Laoghaire: Boole Press, 1989). See also William Kearns, "Saint Brendan in
the North American Classroom" and many other excellent essays in the same
volume.

Irish-Norse connections are also evoked by the nickname of Ireland the
great's discoverer, Hlymreksfari. After the Irish city he had previously
visited, Hlymrekkr (Limerick).

David B. Quinn, in his Ireland and America: Their Early Associations,
1500-1640 (Liverpool UP, 1991), places the Norse legend of a "Great
Ireland" in the context of mystical lands more closely linked to Irish
mythology: the Isle of Brasil (Hy-Brasil) and the Isle of St. Brendan. An
important point to remember, in both Norse and Irish mythology, is that
these legendary lands were almost always conceptualized as insular. On this
latter point, see William H. Babcock, Legendary Islands of the Atlantic
(New York: American Geographical Society, 1922).

I have no evidence that either Yeats or Lady Gregory was specifically aware
of Ireland the great. But given their interests, it seems almost
inevitable. In The Celtic Twilight (1893), for example, Yeats reports on
fishermen who claimed to have reached Hy-Brasil.

Did a Norse legend, perhaps inspired by an Irish one, provide the framework
in which the term "The New Island" became a common Irish metaphor for
America the Continent?

Brian McGinn
Alexandria, Virginia
bmcginn[at]clark.net
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Ir-D RePEc
  
Below is some information about a very useful Web resource for those of
us who are interested in economics, economic theories and the
questioning of economic theories - and which of us is not?

Using the RePEc starting point, for example, I was able to locate, and
download, a series of papers by Aidan Hollis (University of Calgary) and
Arthur Sweetman (University of Victoria) on The Irish Loan Funds, 1720 -
1920.

It also turns out to be an easy way of keeping track of that busy man,
Cormac O Grada - for example, I hadn't known he had written a paper
about the Emigrants Savings Bank, New York, 'Immigrants, Savers and
Runners: The Emigrant Industrial Savings Bank in 1850's.'

P.O'S.



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Economics Working Papers on the Web: RePEc

RePEc stands for Research Papers in Economics and is a vast collection of
working papers, articles and software components contributed by over 80
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This tremendous database is accessible for free through several services.
IDEAS http://ideas.uqam.ca/ allows users to browse through all paper
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subscribe to email reports with abstracts and download details of all new
additions to RePEc. There are over 40 field-specific mailing lists to
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available and are described at http://ideas.uqam.ca/ideas/services.html.

You are invited to explore these free services. Individuals, institutions,
and journals are invited to participate.. Details are available at

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