From: Dr Joan Allen
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: RE: Ir-D St. Patrick's Day Competition? 2

Paddy
I think we have very good reason for having a traditional Irish diaspora
list
St Patrick's Day competition. So how about it? Can you make it a bit
easier
than last year's poser, too....?
best
Joan

>===== Original Message=====
>From
>Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
>I take it you don't want a traditional Irish-Diaspora list St.
>Patrick's Day Cometition, then?
>

Lecturer in Modern British History
School of Historical Studies
University of Newcastle
NE1 7RU
Tel 0191 222 6701

From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

I have been getting a few emails from Ir-D members asking if we are
going to hold our traditional Irish-Diaspora list St. Patrick's Day
Competition this year... None of them, oddly enough, from previous
winners of our Competitions.

Our St. Patrick's Day Competition last year was not a great success - I
don't think people were in the mood. Will people be in the mood this
year, for the soupcon of scholarly whimsy that is our traditional
Competition?

Well, we can certainly have our traditional St. Patrick's Day
Competition, if we want it. I find it difficult to read the mood of the
meeting. Is our St,. Patrick's Day Competition just what is needed in a
world gone mad?

I should also report that I have received one or two messages that tried
to begin here a debate about the looming war in the Middle East - the
main argument in them being that, since everyone else in the world was
discussing the possible war, we should discuss it here too. In
rejecting such messages I have stressed that our rubric says that we do
not necessarily discuss 'current political crises'. In fact our
guidelines were originally framed in those terms in order to prevent
interminable discussion of every twist and turn of events in Northern
Ireland. And to prevent this list being hi-jacked by one group or
another.

I STILL stress that messages to the Irish-Diaspora list should be
relevant to Irish Diaspora Studies. The strong possibility that this
will be the St. Patrick's Day war makes that all too easy...

All list moderators are having to pussyfoot around these issues. I see
that the H-Catholic list finally got round to discussion of the possible
war by allowing discussion of the Catholic theology of a just war.
Elsewhere I have seen an email list that I value practically destroyed
because one group shouted down another. Bill Shankly is supposed to
have said... 'Some people believe football is a matter of life and
death... I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.'
And so it is with Irish Diaspora Studies.

Paddy


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From:
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Ir-D You are Irish, I think 12

William
I think American perceptions of Irishness differ enormously from
British ones - and both differ again from those of the 'native'Irish
domiciled here in Ireland.

Claims of Irish descent are received positively in the United States
because, ultimately, everyone living there (other than native Americans)
has to have originated somewhere else. And the Irish are perceived as
having contributed positively (on the whole - 'gangs of NY' & gangsters
of later vintage notwithstanding) to America. How far the Irish here are
prepared to accept claims of 'Irishness' beyond the second generation by
Americans is a moot point.

In Britain, on the other hand, Irishness is on the whole not considered
a national asset by the indigenous white British, as this discussion
makes clear. Many Irish emigrants in pre-Rivedance days tended to concur
in this to the extent of downplaying their Irishness outside of their
own ethnic group. This in spite of an impressive record of service to
Britain in various capacities over several centuries.

I have lived and worked amongst the second-generation Irish in England
and have seen at first hand their eagerness to assert their Irishness at
all times. This can cause difficulties in Britain but these are as
nothing compared with what happens when they attempt to do so in
Ireland.

The 'native'Irish are on the whole non-plussed by individuals with
English accents claiming to 'just as Irish as they are' and demanding to
be accepted as such. These incidents rarely end happily.

I have attempted to tease out some of the issues involved in a recent
article published in The Irish Post entitled, 'Generation Game' (March
10th, p.10). This is available on: www.irishpost.co.uk

The merit of raising this contentious issue there, rather than in an
academic journal, lies in its accessability to individuals who don't
feel constrained by the niceties of scholarly discourse and who will
react accordingly.

Ultan Cowley

[Note from Moderator: the Irish Post web site does not seem to work
...]

<
< Patrick Maume raises a very important issue for those of us who
< study the Diaspora--just who is "Irish" and how is that determined. <
Since his post I have been thinking about the issue both in terms of my
< research and my own "life experience." <
Bill Mulligan
<

Subject: Re: Ir-D War on 17 March? 2
From: Eileen A Sullivan

Ruth-Ann

I agree 100% with your judgment of a coming War with Iraq and have not
met a pro war individual in my travels. Wonder about the Boston parade
not allowing anti war marchers at the parade. Any pro war marchers?

Eileen

Dr. Eileen A. Sullivan, Director
The Irish Educational Association, Inc. Tel # (352)
332
3690
6412 NW 128th Street E-Mail :
eolas1[at]juno.com
Gainesville, FL 32653

From: "Ruth-Ann M. Harris"
Subject: Re: Ir-D War on 17 March?

Daryl,
You there in the rest of the world must think we Americans are
living in a madhouse -- and we are. I don't know of a single person who

supports the war -- and wouldn't know what to say to them if I met
them. We are being rushed into it by a gang of thugs. It is truly a
dismal time to have to contemplate the future. But like many others,
I'm
bombarding members of the Security Council and our senators and
congressmen
to do something to stop the madness.
Our local [Boston] St. Paddy's day parade has banned a group of

Persian Gulf veterans who oppose the war from marching. That's how that

group is dealing with things!
Ruth-Ann Harris
[thankful she can claim having grown up Canadian]


>From: Daryl Adair
>Subject: War on 17 March?
>
>Dear Colleagues,
>
>Has there been any disquiet among the Irish-American community about
>President Bush's declaration that war is expected to begin on - of all
>dates - 17 March? Teddy Kennedy, of course, is a vehement opponent of
>the proposed Iraqi conflict. If America does go to war as planned on 17

>March, St Patrick's Day mass is likely be all the more poignant for
>this Democrat Senator. It will be interesting, too, to see how St
>Patrick's Day parades around America respond (if at all) to the
>imminent crisis. St Paddy's Day in the US is as much about American
>patriotism as Irish lineage.
>
>Some ponderings from Downunder, where the Irish President will be
>speaking on 17 March.
>
>Daryl Adair
>University of Canberra
>Australia

From: Daryl Adair
Subject: War on 17 March?

Dear Colleagues,

Has there been any disquiet among the Irish-American community about
President Bush's declaration that war is expected to begin on - of all
dates - 17 March? Teddy Kennedy, of course, is a vehement opponent of
the proposed Iraqi conflict. If America does go to war as planned on 17
March, St Patrick's Day mass is likely be all the more poignant for this
Democrat Senator. It will be interesting, too, to see how St Patrick's
Day parades around America respond (if at all) to the imminent crisis.
St Paddy's Day in the US is as much about American patriotism as Irish
lineage.

Some ponderings from Downunder, where the Irish President will be
speaking on 17 March.

Daryl Adair
University of Canberra
Australia

From: Fergusjcam[at]aol.com
Dr Fergus Campbell,
Dept. of Modern History,
NUI Maynooth

Please distrbute...

Land, Politics and the State: New and Comparative Perspectives on the
Irish land question, 1879-1973

NUI Maynooth Conference
9-10 May, 2003

Programme
Friday 9 May

Registration, 7.00-7.30 p.m. Geography room, Rhetoric House, South
Campus.

7.30 p.m.

Keynote speaker

Prof. Paul Bew (QUB), ?Land and the national question in Ireland:
revisited?.

Followed by wine reception.


Saturday 10 May


Geography Room. Tea/coffee and registration: 9.30-10.00

Session one: 10.00-12.30

Rewriting the Irish land question

Chair: Dr. Terry Dooley (NUI Maynooth)

Dr. Fergus Campbell (NUI Maynooth), ?Rewriting the Ranch War: agrarian
conflict in Ireland, 1903-14?.

Dr. Tony Varley (NUI Galway), ?Clan na Talmhan and the Irish land
question?.

Dr. David Seth Jones (National University of Singapore), ?State
financing of land division in the Irish Republic?.
Lunch: 12.30-2.00


Session two: 2.00-4.00

Comparative perspectives on the Irish land question

Chair: Prof. Peter Hart (Memorial University, Newfoundland)

Dr. Jocelyn Alexander (University of Bristol), ??Squatters?, veterans
and the state: post-independence land reform in Zimbabwe?.

Prof. William Beinart (University of Oxford), ?Land reform in South
Africa: an argument against recommunalisation?.

Prof. Alan Knight (University of Oxford), ?The rise and fall of
revolutionary land reform in twentieth century Mexico?.

Tea/coffee: 4.00-4.30

Session three: 4.30-5.30 : Review of conference/discussion

Chair: Prof. R. V. Comerford (NUI Maynooth)

Conference dinner: 7.00



**This conference has been kindly sponsored by the Department of Modern
History, NUI Maynooth. The organisers would like to express their
gratitude to Prof. R.V. Comerford and Ms Anne O?Donoghue for their
support and their help.



Booking details

Name: ___________________________________________________________

Address: ___________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
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Affiliation: __________________________________________________________
Phone: ___________________________________________________________

E mail: ___________________________________________________________

Conference fee

Waged: ?40
Student/unwaged: ?25

Conference dinner (optional): ?35

Please make cheques, money orders or bank drafts payable (for conference
fee and conference dinner (if required)) to ?Dept. of Modern History,
NUIM?, and submit completed form and remittances by 12 April to:

Dr. Terry Dooley,
Dept. of Modern History,
NUI Maynooth,
Co. Kildare,
Republic of Ireland.
E mail: Terence.A.Dooley[at]may.ie

Bed and continental breakfast from ?29 per night is available from:
Maynooth campus: conference and accommodation
Tel. +353 (0) 1 7084511 (early booking recommended).

Subject: RE: Ir-D You are Irish, I think 12
From: "Murray, Edmundo"


On 09/03/2003 06:59 Bill Mulligan wrote:

> It is very clear that Irish-born emigrants/immigrants who
arrived in the Michigan Copper Country in the middle of the
nineteenth-century were seen as "Irish" by the larger society and saw
themselves as Irish.

A comparative remark. There is some evidence showing that the Irish in
Argentina did not see themselves as Irish until the 1870s (and for some
of them as recently as during the 1982 Malvinas/Falklands war).
Generally speaking, they were 'ingleses' and very proud of their British
citizenship, bearing close family and social ties with the English
merchant community in Buenos Aires. In 1844-52, most of them had a Union
Jack on the roof of their camp houses, which was not only a security
measure suggested by the British Consul against gauchos, but also a sign
of identity towards criollos and immigrants from other origins than the
British Isles. The local creole society, who indeed called 'inglés'
everyone speaking English (only a few families from Co. Clare spoke
Irish), further encouraged the Britishness values of the Irish by
exercising notorious Anglocentric attitudes: at that time in Argentina,
for the local creole bourgeoisie, everything local (gaucho, indian) was
barbarian and everything European, particularly English, was civilised
(cf. Sarmiento). Things begun changing in the mid-1870s, when both the
Catholic Irish chaplains (eg. Patrick Dillon from _The Southern Cross_)
and writers of the 'Gauchesca' literature (most notably, Hernandez's
_Martin Fierro_) created a paradigm of the Irish separate from the
English, and closer to the gaucho. William Bulfin (1900) and Thomas
Murray (1919) further accentuated the identity shift.

I wonder if similar stories occurred in other parts of the Irish
Diaspora, or the story was everywhere like in Michigan Copper Country as
mentioned by Bill Mulligan.

Edmundo Murray
U. de Genève

[...]
> So, the issue Patrick Maume raises is a significant one I think
for
>Diaspora studies -- how do we determine who in the Diaspora is Irish?
>And, just what does that mean? Will we, the people who study the
>Diaspora, let people opt out? What does it really mean to be Irish? I
>still think I am, but I'm not sure about some of the others :-)

From: "MacEinri, Piaras"
To: "'irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk'"
Subject: RE: Ir-D St. Patrick's Day Competition?

Paddy,

I have strong views myself on the threatened Bush/Blair campaign and the
unpredictable consequences of world dominance through the pre-emptive
use of weapons of mass destruction, but I have to say that I think you
are right to insist on the primordial importance of keeping the list
focused on its original purpose. There are plenty of places for those of
us with strong feelings of whatever persuasion about the Middle East to
express ourselves.

Best

Piaras

From: "Richard Jensen"
To:
Subject: Re: Ir-D War on 17 March? 2

Ruth-Ann M. Harris from Boston College writes

>
Ms Harris needs to move in wider circles. I would be happy to talk to
her if she really wants to find out what the majority thinks.

Actually the Congress already voted for war by heavy margins--

Ms Harris should check with Senator Kerry of her state--who voted for
war and is one of four leading Democratic candidate for president
(alongside Senator Lieberman, Senator Edwards and Representative
Gephardt, who also voted for war, as did Senator Hilary Clinton and
Senate Democratic leader Daschle. Bill Clinton strongly supports a
war.) (There are some antiwar Democrats in the race. The strongest is
ex-Governor Dean who has 2% support among Democrats.)

Polls show strong support for Bush among Republicans and Independents
(and from about a third of the Democrats). Catholics and Irish
Catholics seem to be voting much like everyone else. As governor Romney
of Massachusetts put it, >

Richard Jensen rjensen[at]uic.edu [from New Hampshire, where the entire
Congressional delegation supports the war.]

From: "Edmundo Murray"
Subject: New Address for 'Irish Diaspora Studies in Argentina'

Dear Friends,

The 'Irish Diaspora Studies in Argentina' web site announces improved
design
and contents in its new address: {http://mypage.bluewin.ch/emurray/}

Some of the current contents include:
1. Introduction: 'Why This Web Site' (a declaration of principles), and
the
updated 'Bibliography of the Irish in Argentina'
2. The Origins: articles about the sending areas in Ireland, with
obvious
emphasis on the Midlands and Co. Wexford.
3. The Journey: 'The Irish Road to Argentina', about the means of
transportation used by the Irish emigrants bound to Argentina. 4. The
Settlement: 'Irish Place Names and Landmarks in Argentina', letters
and memoirs, and other articles about the establishment of the Irish in
the
River Plate.
5. The Culture/s: 'Representations and Voices', 'Shared Values', and
links
to 'The Southern Cross' and 'Irlandeses' web sites.

I hope this web site will create a global network among people
interested on
Irish Argentina, and will be a contribution to the formation of the
much-talked about (and badly needed) Irish-Argentine Historical Society.
As
Thomas Murray did 84 years ago, I encourage your participation: 'Whether
you
be young or old, man or woman, if you know anything worth while, bearing
on
the Irish in Argentina, set to and write it off to some paper - get it
into
print, and you have done something - you have laid your stone on the
"carn"
of the race' (_The Story of the Irish in Argentina_, 1919).

Have a happy - and above all - a peaceful St. Patrick's Day,

Edmundo Murray
edmundo_murray[at]hotmail.com
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/emurray

From: Oliver Marshall
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Ir-D Brazilians in Roscommon

Yesterday I found a copy of the Irish Times (dated 10 March 2003) on the
seat next to me on the London underground. Much to my amazement, pretty
well a full-page of the paper was given over to three articles on the
Brazilian community of Roscommon. There are supposedly 500 Brazilians in
the town (10 percent of its population), many of whom work in meat
plants, bringing with them their experience of Brazilian
slaughterhouses. The elements of the stories are all very familiar
(specialist labour, chain migration, a local priest who the migrants are
very dependent on), but the Brazilian-Irish combination is a curious
one. I'd be happy to share the articles with anyone who might be
interested.

Oliver Marshall

Centre for Brazilian Studies
University of Oxford

oliver.marshall[at]brazil.ox.ac.uk

From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Our attention has been drawn to the following item...

P.O'S.

THE NEWSLETTER
Tuesday, March 11 2003

Emigrants who Brought a Piece of America Back Home

THE Genealogy Centre in Londonderry devotes endless hours to researching
the Ulster ancestry of those tens of thousands who emigrated to the New
World so long ago.

There, in every name on the passenger lists, is a human story of love
and tragedy, hope and heartbreak.

Not all of those emigrants, however, stayed away and made a fortune in
America or died in a New York gutter from booze or from brawl.

Genealogy Centre researcher Janet Hancock has been uncovering the saga
of what became known as the "Returned Yank".

These are the people who didn't stay away, those who came back home,
some with the streetwise swagger of the characters in The Gangs of New
York.

Brian Mitchell, the centre's manager, said research shows that many of
the returned emigrants failed to talk about the hardships of life in
America.

To access complete text:
{http://www.newsletter.co.uk/fullfeatures.asp?DJID=8564}

C 2002 Century Newspapers Limited - A Trinity Mirror Business

Subject: RE: Ir-D St. Patrick's Day Competition? 5
From: "Jeanne Armstrong"

Paddy,

I agree with Daniel. As a U.S. member of this list, I would real
appreciate the distraction of a St. P's day competition, especially
since St. Patrick's Day has now become associated with this depressing
war.

Jeanne Armstrong

From: "Richard Jensen"
To:
Subject: College of Charleston Conference on Saints and Shrines

From: Cormack, Margaret Jean (CormackM[at]cofc.edu)

Call for Papers Saints and Pilgrims around the Atlantic

A conference provisionally titled ´Saints and Pilgrims around the
Atlantic´ will be held at the College of Charleston in South Carolina,
from Friday, Feb. 20 to Sunday, Feb. 22 2004. Papers should focus on
the cult or veneration of saints, pilgrimage, or related topics. They
might, for example, compare the cult of a given saint, or forms of
devotion in general, in Europe and among the immigrant community in the
US; discuss pilgrimage practice son either side of (or across) the
Atlantic; examine the folklore associated with saints, or look at how
vitae or motifs change with time and place. Studies of specific saints
or cults in areas washed by the Atlantic will also be acceptable, and we
would like to have a variety of approaches - historical, art historical,
archaeological, etc. We would like to emphasize that the conference does
not deal exclusively with Christian saints; papers on veneration of holy
individuals from other religious traditions, or even more secular icons,
will be welcome.

Completed papers must be submitted by Dec. of 2003 so that they can be
distributed to participants; the conference itself will take the form of
discussions of individual papers and/or panel discussions of papers on a
given topic. We hope to submit a selection of the papers for publication
soon after the conference.

Please send, by email or regular mail, a 500 word abstract and copy of
your CV (including, for graduate students or others not holding the PhD,
the name of one or two individuals who can attest to their ability to
produce a scholarly paper within the time frame required) by March 31
to:

Margaret Cormack
Dept. of Philosohpy and Religious Studies
College of Charleston
66 George St
Charlston SC 29401
cormackm[at]cofc.edu

From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Michael Curran has produced, as a 50 page A4 booklet, an interim summary
of his research on the well-being of Irish people in London, England.

Michael J. Curran
Across the Water: The acculturation and health of Irish people in
London
Allen Library, Dublin, 2002
ISBN 0952 602237

There are 4 chapters, followed by a Discussion, Bibliography and
Appendix...

1. Irish migration
2. Culture and Health, Migration and Health
3. Wembley Study
4. Brent/Merton Study
Discussion
Bibliography
Appendix: Comments from participants

The theoretical background makes much use of observations from within
the discipline of psychology, in particular the work of John Berry -
still fairly unusual within Irish Diaspora Studies. The Bibliography is
very thorough. The core of the project is provide by the analysis of
the Irish populations in the 3 study areas and by the some 600 responses
to questionnaires.

Michael Curran is offering to send a copy of this work to any member of
the Irish-Diaspora list within the United Kingdom who sends a large, A4
size, self-addressed envelope, stamped with a 96p UK stamp, to...

Michael J. Curran PhD
Irish Diaspora Project
Dept. of Psychology
Aras an Phiarsaigh,
Trinity College
Dublin 2, Ireland

Michael Curran has bases in Dublin and Belfast, and will be able to
arrange for the booklet to be posted to you within the UK.

Irish-Diaspora list members in other parts of the world should contact
Michael Curran directly
EMAIL: michaeljcurran[at]btinternet.com
And negotiate some sort of deal. I am sure that Michael will want to be
helpful.

Patrick O'Sullivan


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From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

On a train of thought, following Richard Jensen's posting here of the
Call for Papers on Saints and Pilgrims of the Atlantic, the following
article on Benedeit's Le Voyage de Saint Brendan has been noticed...

It looks very interesting - anyone seen it? Not a journal I am familiar
with.

From the Désert Liquide to the Sea of Romance: Benedeit's Le Voyage de
Saint Brendan and the Irish Immrama
Neophilologus, April 2003, vol. 87, no. 2, pp. 193-207(15)
Sobecki S.I.[1]
[1] St John's College, Cambridge CB2 1 TP, UK E-mail:
s_sobecki[at]web.de

Abstract:
Benedeit's poem Le Voyage de Saint Brendan is not a mere adaptation of
the popular Latin Navigatio Sancti Brendani Abbatis. By comparing
Benedeit's creative use of the sea- and pilgrimage-motives, it appears
that the Anglo-Norman poem is in many aspects closer to the Irish
immrama than to its presumed source, the Latin Navigatio. As a result,
both the relationship between the two Brendan-voyages as well as the
alleged dependence of the immrama on the Latin Navigatio are challenged.

Language: English Document Type: Research article ISSN: 0028-2677

Publisher: Kluwer Academic Publishers

For background see
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/brandan/

See also Robert Sanderson's pages...
http://www.o-r-g.org/~azaroth/cv.html
Especially his essays at...
http://www.o-r-g.org/~azaroth/university/

http://www.utqueant.org/doc.3.Bren.II.html

P.O'S.


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From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

A further thought...

For those unfamilar with John Berry's work...

John W. Berry's home page is at Queen's University, Ontario
http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/faculty/berry/berry.html

Where there are outlines of his work and links to sites like...
International Comparative Studies of Ethnocultural Youth (ICSEY)
http://www.ceifo.su.se/en/Proj/icsey.htm

New on that site is a study of the Kurdish Diaspora in Europe.

P.O'S.


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From: "Sean Byrne"
To:
Subject: RE: Ir-D Interculturalism and the Irish

Hello Jones,

You might be interested in my book (1997) Growing Up in a Divided
Society: the Impact of Conflict on Belfast Schoolchildren. the book used
a story based methodology to elicit young people's images of conflict in
integrated and nonintegrated schools in Belfast.

Sean

- -----Original Message-----
From: "Jones Irwin"
To:
Subject: RE: Ir-D Interculturalism and the Irish

Hi everybody,

I am curently working on the issue of 'inter-culturalism' in Ireland,
with especial emphasis on intercultural education(or the lack of it!).
As part of this work, I am very interested in looking at studies of
relations between Irish communities and other communities outside
Ireland. I am especially interested in relations in the UK between Irish
communities and other 'immigrant' communities. Any references to books
or articles would be very helpful.

Many thanks in advance,

Jones

From: Kerby Miller
Subject: Re: Ir-D Reinventing Ireland

RE-INVENTING IRELAND receives a very strong, positive review (by
Conor McCarthy) in the latest IRISH LITERARY SUPPLEMENT (Spring
2003), as does McCarthy's own MODERNISATION, CRISIS AND CULTURE IN
IRELAND, 1969-1992, in the same vein.

Wish I had time to read them, but I live in hope . . . .

I would appreciate a reference to Chinn's book on the Irish in
Birmingham.

Thanks,
Kerby Miller
U. of Missouri.