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publication
Journal of Contemporary History

ISSN
0022-0094 electronic: 0022-0094

publisher
SAGE Publications

year - volume - issue - page
2003 - 38 - 3 - 395

article

Projecting the Nation through Sport and Culture: Ireland, Aonach
Tailteann and the Irish Free State, 1924-32

Cronin, Mike

abstract

This article explores the attempt by the newly-independent Irish state
to stage a major sporting and cultural event, Aonach Tailteann, in the
1920s and 1930s. The event has to be understood in the context of a new
nation trying to promote itself on the world stage by defining, through
sporting and cultural happenings, those ideals which the state would
embrace. The article reveals that, despite the high idealism of Aonach
Tailteann, the whole event was hamstrung by the financial realities of
statehood and the problematics caused by a long-neglected national
economy. Such financial conservatism also demonstrates that the state,
while built on the ideals of revolutionary Sinn Féin, was loath actively
to support such an explicit recognition of cultural revivalism. The
article also illustrates a central problem that would dog the whole
lifetime of the Free State: whether or not to champion traditionalism in
the face of cultural and political modernism.

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Online ISSN: 1099-1220 Print ISSN: 1077-3495
International Journal of Population Geography
Volume 9, Issue 4, 2003. Pages: 275-280

(Special Issue: Geographies of Diaspora . Issue Edited by Caitríona Ní
Laoire.)
Published Online: 24 Jul 2003

Copyright © 2003 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.


Editorial introduction: locating geographies of diaspora
Caitríona Ní Laoire *
National Institute for Regional and Spatial Analysis, NUI Maynooth,
Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland

email: Caitríona Ní Laoire (caitriona.nilaoire[at]may.ie)

*Correspondence to Caitríona Ní Laoire, National Institute for Regional
and Spatial Analysis, NUI Maynooth, Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland.

Abstract
This special issue of the International Journal of Population Geography
continues a theme raised in previous issues, that is, the perceived need
for a greater engagement between population geography and other parts of
the discipline and of the social sciences more generally. It is
suggested that new approaches to the study of geographies of
international migration, such as diaspora studies, may represent a
valuable space of interdisciplinary connection. In this spirit, this
special issue on Geographies of Diaspora aims to demonstrate the
contribution that geographers can make to the study of diaspora, as well
as the potential for geographies of diaspora to enable a greater
engagement between population geography, human geography and other
disciplines. Papers by Paul White, Kathy Burrell, Michael Samers, David
Howard, Alison Blunt and Yvonne McKenna all contribute to our
understandings of diasporic groups and processes, while engaging with
current debates in the theorisation of diasporas and transnationalism. A
particular contribution of this collection is its demonstration of the
potential for approaches grounded in everyday practices or in
political/economic structures to address critiques of postmodern
approaches to diaspora, without losing the value of non-essentialised
approaches to identity. Furthermore, the papers demonstrate the need for
approaches that can recognise the specificity of diasporic experiences
and the contingency of historical and material processes that give rise
to different diaspora spaces. The special issue, then, contributes to
the ongoing re-conceptualisation of the concept of diaspora, and
reflects the contribution that can be made to this process by
geographical approaches. Copyright © 2003 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.

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publication
Historical Journal - London

ISSN
0018-246X electronic: 1469-5103

publisher
Cambridge University Press

year - volume - issue - page
2003 - 46 - 2 - 295


article

THE EXPERIENCE OF SURVIVAL DURING THE 1641 IRISH REBELLION

COPE, JOSEPH

abstract

In recent scholarship, the problem of violence has dominated work on the
1641 Irish rebellion. Unfortunately, no scholarship has addressed the
means by which victims of the war survived this conflict. This article
uses microhistorical evidence from the 1641 depositions for county Cavan
to reconstruct the range of possible survival strategies. Philip
MacMulmore O'Reilly, a member of the Irish gentry and kinsman to the
Cavan rebels, balanced support for the rebellion with attempts to assist
endangered Anglo-Protestant settlers. Although deponents questioned
O'Reilly's motives, they agreed that he was instrumental in protecting
settlers. George Creichton, a Scottish minister and planter, provides a
distinctly different example. Despite his religious views and politics,
Creichton forged strong ties to neighbouring Irish before the rising.
Although in danger, Creichton mobilized a network of friends, kin, and
sympathetic neighbours to protect himself and to assist less fortunate
Anglo-Protestant neighbours. These two examples reveal the wider
existence of early seventeenth-century social relationships that crossed
ethnic and religious lines. In the midst of the chaos of 1641, a
significant number of settlers benefited from fragmentation in the rebel
ranks and often built their survival strategies upon the social
relationships that they had forged in more stable times.

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The following item has been brought to our attention.

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Belfast Telegraph Home > News

Ulster Scots musical gets US backing

By Staff Reporter

newsdesk[at]belfasttelegraph.co.uk

26 August 2003

A MUSICAL about Ulster Scots emigrants to the US could help to end

sectarianism in Northern Ireland, the former US President, Jimmy
Carter,
has said.
The musical, 'On Eagle's Wing', written by composer John Anderson,
tells
the tale of 18th-century Ulster Scots emigration to America, and
received
Mr Carter's endorsement after a special viewing in Atlanta,
Georgia.
In a letter to Lord Laird, the chairman of The Ulster-Scots Agency
Mr
Carter, who is of Ulster Scots descent, said the musical would
promote the
parity of esteem initiated under the Good Friday Agreement.
He added: "Just as Riverdance was successful in portraying Irish
culture
through music and dance, so will On Eagle's Wing facilitate a
better
appreciation for the story of the Scots-Irish."
Mr Carter has a particular interest in the musical as one of his
ancestors
emigrated from Ulster around the time the story is set.
He is a descendant of Scots-Irish settler Andrew Cowan through a
great
grandmother on his father's side.
Cowan, no relation to Irish Foreign Minister Brian Cowen, was one
of the
first residents of Boonesborough, South Carolina in 1772.
His descendants later converted from the Presbyterian to the
Baptist
Church and moved to Georgia.
"I wish this production every success in achieving its goals of
education,
enlightenment and entertainment as it supports efforts towards
reconciliation, peace and acceptance of cultural differences," Mr
Carter
said in his letter.
He wrote his letter after joining over 100 of Atlanta's society
leaders
last month to hear singer Peter Corry do a repertoire from the
show
accompanied by piper Robert Watt.
Lord Laird said he was "personally greatly touched and motivated"
by the
letter.
'On Eagle's Wing' is due to be shown in Belfast's Odyssey in
October and
expected to tour in the US next year.

From: "Murray, Edmundo"
To:

Dear listers,

I would like to know more about Col. Alyner (?), who in 1819-1921 led a
regiment in Bolivia. The memoirs of an Irish immigrant in Argentina,
Edward Robbins, include the following entries:

'1819. My uncle James Deehan, brother to my mother, went a Captain in
Colonel Alyner's Regiment to Bolivia, South America. He met great
disappointments there, he left a comfortable home he kept a flour Mile
near Cloghan, called Black Mills. He was a dashing young man, a credit
to any farmer to have him as a son, but he was too gay. [...] 1821. My
uncle James Deehan died in Bolivia.'

Does anybody know this Col. Alyner and his regiment in Bolivia? Thank
you,

Edmundo Murray
Irish Argentine Historical Society
Maison Rouge
1261 Burtigny Switzerland
+41 22 739 5049
edmundo.murray[at]irishargentine.org
Irish Diaspora Studies in Argentina: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/emurray

From: "Guillermo MacLoughlin"
To:
Subject: RE: Ir-D Aylmer in Bolivia

Aylmer?

Yes, I have information on Col. Aylmer which I will send you soon. He
was one of the members of the Irish Brigades in Gral. Bolivar´s Army.

Best regards.
Guillermo MacLoughlin
Buenos Aires
Argentina

gmacloughlin[at]ciudad.com.ar


- -----Mensaje original-----
De: owner-irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
[mailto:owner-irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk]En nombre de
irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Enviado el: Miércoles, 01 de Enero de 2003
05:59 a.m.
Para: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Asunto: Ir-D Aylmer in Bolivia



From: "Murray, Edmundo"
To:

Dear listers,

I would like to know more about Col. Alyner, who in 1819-1921 led a
regiment in Bolivia. The memoirs of an Irish immigrant in Argentina,
Edward Robbins, include the following entries:

'1819. My uncle James Deehan, brother to my mother, went a Captain in
Colonel Alyner's Regiment to Bolivia, South America. He met great
disappointments there, he left a comfortable home he kept a flour Mile
near Cloghan, called Black Mills. He was a dashing young man, a credit
to any farmer to have him as a son, but he was too gay. [...] 1821. My
uncle James Deehan died in Bolivia.'

Does anybody know this Col. Alyner and his regiment in Bolivia? Thank
you,

Edmundo Murray
Irish Argentine Historical Society
Maison Rouge
1261 Burtigny Switzerland
+41 22 739 5049
edmundo.murray[at]irishargentine.org
Irish Diaspora Studies in Argentina: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/emurray

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Shrews are extraordinary little creatures - as small as you can get and
still be a mammal.

This genetic research suggests that the Irish pygmy shrew population is
unlike that of Britain - its genetic make up is more like that of
northern Spain. The conclusion of this research is that the a very
small number of pygmy shrews arrived in Ireland as stowaways on a ship -
thus evidence of trade links, or human travel. Unfortunately the
researchers are as yet unable to say quite when this shrew migration
occurred.

P.O'S.

publication
Proceedings of the Royal Society of London - B

ISSN
0962-8452 electronic: 1471-2954

publisher
Royal Society

year - volume - issue - page
2003 - 270 - 1524 - 1593


article


How did pygmy shrews colonize Ireland? Clues from a phylogenetic
analysis of mitochondrial cytochrome b sequences

Mascheretti, Silvia - Rogatcheva, Margarita B. - Gündüz, Islam - Fredga,
Karl - Searle, Jeremy B.


abstract

There is a long-standing debate as to how Ireland attained its present
fauna; we help to inform this debate with a molecular study of one
species. A 1110 base pair fragment of the mitochondrial cytochrome b
gene was sequenced in 74 specimens of the pygmy shrew, Sorex minutus,
collected from throughout its western Palaearctic range. Phylogenetic
analysis of these sequences revealed several well-supported lineages.
Most of the 65 haplotypes belonged to a northern lineage, which ranged
from Britain in the west to Lake Baikal in the east. The other lineages
were largely limited to Iberia, Italy and the Balkans. One exception,
however, was a lineage found in both Ireland and Andorra. This affinity,
and the large difference between the mitochondrial sequences of Irish
and British individuals, suggest that pygmy shrews did not colonize
Ireland via a land connection from Britain, as has been previously
supposed, but instead were introduced by boat from southwest continental
Europe. All the Irish pygmy shrews analysed were identical or very
similar in cytochrome b sequence, suggesting an extreme founding event.


keyword(s)

COLONIZATION, IRELAND, MTDNA, CYTOCHROME B, PYGMY SHREW, SOREX MINUTUS,

From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

For information...

Ir-D members will be familiar with the work of Ir-D member Paddy
(Patricia) Walls - most recently as advisor to Dr. Sashi Sashidaran, who
is drafting the British Government's policy on mental health and
ethnicity.

This article is part of her previous work, with Rory Williams, MRC
Social and Public Health Sciences Unit, Glasgow.

P.O'S.

publication
Ethnic and Racial Studies

ISSN
0141-9870 electronic: 1466-4356

publisher
Routledge - Part of the Taylor and Francis Group

year - volume - issue - page
2003 - 26 - 4 - 632

article

Sectarianism at work: Accounts of employment discrimination against
Irish Catholics in Scotland

Walls, Patricia - Williams, Rory

abstract

This article examines accounts of discrimination in employment against
Irish Catholics in Glasgow from both majority and minority ethnic and
- -religious perspectives. It reveals evidence of continuing experience of
sectarian discrimination in work. Of particular note is the existence of
discriminatory practice affecting Catholic (Irish-descended) attempts to
move up the social scale. This evidence disputes the thoroughness of
analyses which ignore discrimination experience as relevant to the
current social-class position of Glasgow's Irish Catholic community. The
analysis presented here also questions the practice of excluding 'white'
ethnic groups from most studies of ethnicity in Britain and considers
whether sectarianism or racism might most aptly describe experiences
marked out by religious belonging but clearly denoting ethnic origin. As
part of a wider study of prolonged and continuing health disadvantage
among the Irish in Britain, it is suggested that discrimination is one
component in any explanation of the health of the Irish or Irish
Catholic minority, whose minority experience is usually overlooked by
researchers of ethnicity.


keyword(s)

Catholic, Irish, discrimination, racism, sectarianism, whiteness,

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I do not currently have access to Recusant History. But this item fell
into our nets, and I thought it worth noting - though I have not been
able to locate an Abstract.

English Catholicism has very much taken Dominic Barberi into its heart,
perhaps because of that defining moment, the reception of Newman into
the church. It would be interesting to see something about the Irish
element in all this...

P.O'S.


RECUSANT HISTORY 25 (2000)

HAMER DS, 'The Impact of the Irish on the Missionary Activities of
Dominic Barberi 1840-49', p670

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For information...

I am trying to chase up this article - partly in order to have a look at
its sources.

P.O'S.

Medline Abstract

P Nolan and A Sheridan

In search of the history of Irish psychiatric nursing.

Int Hist Nurs J, January 1, 2001; 6(2): 35-43.

School of Health Sciences, University of Birmingham, England.

Based on a paper given at the Cinderella Services conference at South
Bank University, London, in April 2001, this paper explores the origins
and development of the asylum system in Ireland, and traces the
relationship between the politics and practice of mental health care.
The role of the attendants is illuminated in so far as the limited
primary source material allows. Although some aspects of the history of
Irish mental health services have been subject to scholarship,
psychiatric nursing is an area that has not. In particular, very little
attention has been paid to the role that attendants and asylum nurses
played in the Irish asylum system, especially during the late nineteenth
and early twentieth centuries. The government constructed an extensive
network of asylums and workhouses to deal with the growing numbers of
mentally disordered and impoverished people. Irish asylum nurses tended
to come from rural stock, and have agricultural skills; they were able
to communicate with patients in either English or Gaelic. They were
encouraged to impart to patients skills that would permit them to find
employment or contribute to the upkeep of the asylum. Publication Types:

Historical article
Journal article

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We have had a query about movies set in Ireland during World War II -
specifically was there a sort of 'Ealing comedy' set in a prisoner of
war camp.

I think this must be...

The Brylcreem Boys (1997)

Starring: Billy Campbell, Angus MacFadyen, Jean Butler, Gabriel Byrne,
William McNamara
Directed by: Terence Ryan
Produced by: Alan Latham, Bernie Stampfer, Terence Ryan, Paul Madigan

This was the movie in which Jean Butler was the love interest, and did a
bit of dancing.

There is some disagreement in the reference works about the correct
spelling of 'brylcreem' - but a web search under that spelling will turn
up basic info.

Also of interest is...

Caught In A Free State
(C4 1984)
A four-part series dramatising the attempt by German Intelligence to
establish agents in neutral Ireland during the Second World War.

Starring Peter Jankowsky, Joan O'Hara and Barry McGovern as Irish
Priminister Eamon de Valera

Brian Lynch's story was directed-produced by Peter Ormond.

P.O'S.

From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

This is an Ir-D Housekeeping item...

Over the past weeks I have been besieged by unwanted emails - spam,
emails generated by computer viruses, and emails responding to emails
generated by viruses. Remember that some of these viruses and spam
merchants forge the FROM line of their emails.

On one day in August I received over 1000 of these unwanted emails - and
regularly since then each working day has begun by my having to wade
through hundreds of the things.

This is, of course, all a direct consequence of my email addresses being
'Out There', on web pages, in discussion groups, and in email address
books.

One particularly inconventient thing is that our list address,
irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk, has been picked up by the spam merchants
and the viruses. I cannot simply delete all 'Non member' emails to that
address - because many interested non-members use it as a contact point.
And many actual Ir-D members insist on sending in emails from addresses
other than the one that they originally supplied. So... Each one of
those messages must be individually checked...

Of course I was not the only person so affected. And, of course, each
time I sent out an Ir-D message I created a further flurry of stuff - as
our messages were rejected by systems that had simply closed down for
the worst days, or by the systems of Ir-D members whose email Inboxes
were full... Of spam and virus chaff.

So, I have let things go quiet over the past 2 weeks. And things have
got a bit quieter. I have experimented further with spam-blocking
systems. I am currently using Mailwasher
http://www.mailwasher.net/

And - as an indication of how careful you must be - compare and contrast
http://www.mailwasher.com/
which looks like an email collecting trap created by a spamster.

I have to say that I had a moment of despair on that 1000 email day...
What am I doing, what am I doing? And later that day I called into the
University of Bradford, to check my mail and sort my library books. In
the University Library I idly glanced at that shelf, by the front door,
of discarded books - on sale for 50 pence.

Amongst these was a copy of Vinyard, The Irish on the Urban Frontier,
1976. This is one of a very rare Arnos Press collection, The
Irish-Americans - Advisory Editor, Lawrence J. McCaffrey.

I stood there, looking at that discarded book, and thought, What am I
doing? I rescued the book, of course - it is now on my shelves...
But...

I am now answering all the sensible emails rescued from the rubbish - I
hope I have managed to spot and rescue all the genuine material.

Anyway - as I say - things have got quieter, and now we plod on...

Paddy


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Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit

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For information...

The 'crisis-based nature of gender regime negotiation' seems a good
point.

P.O's.

publication
European Journal of Women's Studies

ISSN
1350-5068 electronic: 1350-5068

publisher
SAGE Publications

year - volume - issue - page
2003 - 10 - 1 - 65

article

Durability and Change in State Gender Systems: Ireland in the 1950s

Connolly, Eileen

abstract

This study of Ireland's gender contract at the end of the 1950s is a
country-specific analysis of gender regime change at the level of the
state. It is based primarily on Irish parliamentary debates for the
years 1957 and 1958, the point at which Ireland embarked on a process of
economic modernization. In describing the detail of this gender system,
it provides a benchmark against which the reforms of the late 1960s and
1970s can be measured. It also points to two salient features of a
state's gender regime that may be applicable in other situations: first,
the comparative 'stickiness' of the gender contract once it has been
established and second the episodic or crisis-based nature of gender
regime negotiation.

keyword(s)

1950s, first-wave feminism, gender, gender contract, gender regime,
Ireland, public policy, state,

Sender: P.Maume[at]Queens-Belfast.AC.UK
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Ir-D Alyner in Bolivia 2

From: Patrick Maume
Members of the Aylmer family were involved in the 1798 rising in
Kildare. Is this a relative of theirs?
Best wishes,
Patrick

On 01 September 2003 05:59 irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

>
> From: "Guillermo MacLoughlin"
> To:
> Subject: RE: Ir-D Alyner in Bolivia
>
> Aylmer?
>
> Yes, I have information on Col. Aylmer which I will send you soon. He
> was one of the members of the Irish Brigades in Gral. Bolivar´s Army.
>
> Best regards.
> Guillermo MacLoughlin
> Buenos Aires
> Argentina
>
> gmacloughlin[at]ciudad.com.ar
>

Thread-Topic: Ir-D Aylmer
From: "Murray, Edmundo"
To:


Dear Brian,

Thank you very much! It looks like Edward Robbins in his memoirs
mispelled both Aylmer as 'Alyner' and Bolivar as 'Bolivia' (though the
last one is an understandable mistake). We should add the name of
Robbin's uncle James Deehan as a Captain in Col. Aylmer's regiment
1819-1821. He died this last year in South America.

Thanks again and best wishes,

Edmundo Murray
Irish Argentine Historical Society
Maison Rouge
1261 Burtigny Switzerland
+41 22 739 5049
edmundo.murray[at]irishargentine.org
Irish Diaspora Studies in Argentina: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/emurray

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
[mailto:owner-irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Sent: 03 September 2003 07:59
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Ir-D Aylmer



From: "Brian McGinn"
To:
Subject: Re: Ir-D Aylmer

As Guillermo MacLoughlin has pointed out and Patrick Maume has
suggested, the surname is properly spelled "Aylmer". See bibliography at
http://www.irishdiaspora.net/ (Item 14) for Martin Tierney's summary of
the life of this 1798 veteran and soldier of fortune. I also note
numerous references to William Aylmer in index to Vol II of Eric
Lambert's _Voluntarios Britanicos e Irlandeses en La Gesta Bolivariana_.

Brian McGinn
Alexandria, Virginia

From: John FitzGerald
jfitz[at]mun.ca
Subject: Fwd: Gangs of New York, Catholicism and the historical record


Hello Paddy,

Perhaps this emerging thread on H-Catholic might be of interest to list
readers who might have something to discuss about how the film portrayed

Irishness.

Best regards,

John FitzGerald
Memorial University of Newfoundland

- -----Original Message-----
From: H-Net Discussion List on International Catholic History
To: H-CATHOLIC[at]H-NET.MSU.EDU
Subject: Gangs of New York, Catholicism and the historical record


From: Harold Rennie
Email: hrennie[at]hfx.eastlink.ca

I recently saw Gangs of New York on video (finally!). Of course, it's
a
movie, not a piece of historical research. Still, it "illustrates" a
period in the nineteenth century when people of many different creeds,
colours and nationalities were starting to meet, mingle and occasionally
fight it out in large urban centres in the U.S.

On this list, certainly, I have been privileged to sit in on discussions
about race and religion that have broadened my understanding of those
topics. This movie reminds me of some of the discussions about the
assimilation of the Irish, the Conscription Riots during the Civil War
and the rise of Tammany Hall, all of which were covered, I believe, in
the scholarly book _How the Irish Became White_. That having been said,
the film did not elucidate my understanding of those dynamics; rather,
it was the historical discussions on this and other H-Net listservs that
enabled me to make sense of the action in the movie.

There were a few things that I liked in Gangs of New York, but there was
a lot that I didn't like, including the portrayal of Catholicism. I am
not prone to lose my cool about any and every negative portrayal of
Catholicism in the popular media, so I figured the portrayal in this
particular movie must be pretty bad if even I got upset about it. (And
yes, I know it's directed by someone who grew up in the Catholic
tradition and who claims that the drama of Catholic liturgy helped to
inspire his filmmaking. But, as my younger colleagues say, I am sooooooo
not going there!)

Anyway, I went hunting for some historical sources to fill in the gaps.
I found that the following websites give some good solid historical
background (and some necessary balance):

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/03/0320_030320_oscars_gangs
.html
"Gangs of New York: Fact versus Fiction"--aspects of urban development,
archaeology and demography

http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon_1_14_03ws.html
"What Gangs of New York misses"--later acceptance of Irish into
mainstream

http://www.city-journal.org/html/7_2_a2.html
"How Dagger John Saved New York's Irish" (Dagger John being Archbishop
John
Hughes)

http://www.catholicherald.com/articles/03articles/dagger-john.htm
"Dagger John" and the "Gangs of New York"--Catholic Herald--ditto

These are certainly not primary sources, and of course they promote
their own particular agendas, but I recommend them as quick reads that
also provide useful correctives to many popular misconceptions
(including some of my own, I must admit!)

I also did a quick search of the discussion logs of H-NET between
January 2001 and July 2003 to look for other discussions of this film.
H-ETHNIC of Fri, 31 Jan 2003 ran a story from Mt Holyoke College Home
College Street Journal, citing "New York Expert Czitrom Gives Gangs of
New York Failing Grade." On the other hand, John McClymer liked it in
his post on the same listserv on January 2, 2003. There was some
discussion on H-URBAN, for and against, with Jim Wunsch suggesting
(tongue in cheek? maybe) that the movie might actually cause some
students to ask what exactly is a Catholic or a Protestant, and thereby
learn that the two groups had had conflicts long before the historical
period portrayed in the film.

Interestingly enough, I found no discussions of the movie on H-Catholic.
Could it be that I'm the only one that had problems with the portrayal
of Catholicism in "Gangs"? Or is everyone else on this list as far
behind in their film viewing as I am?

Anyway, this is not an attempt to do justice to the full range of issues
that the film raises for professional and independent scholars, nor
should it be seen as a final comment on the usefulness of commercial
movies to teach history. Certainly, any film that has people talking on
three different H-Net listservs must be hitting a few nerves. I just
wanted to share the results of my searches with others on this list.

Pax,

Hal in Halifax

.

From: "Brian McGinn"
To:
Subject: Re: Ir-D Aylmer

As Guillermo MacLoughlin has pointed out and Patrick Maume has
suggested, the surname is properly spelled "Aylmer". See bibliography at
http://www.irishdiaspora.net/ (Item 14) for Martin Tierney's summary of
the life of this 1798 veteran and soldier of fortune. I also note
numerous references to William Aylmer in index to Vol II of Eric
Lambert's _Voluntarios Britanicos e Irlandeses en La Gesta Bolivariana_.

Brian McGinn
Alexandria, Virginia

From: "Catherine.E.Foley"
Subject: The Irish Dance Research Forum

The Irish Dance Research Forum
15th October, 2003
The Irish World Music Centre
University of Limerick

The Irish Dance Research Forum (IDRF) is an international, inclusive and
all-embracing society for dance scholarship in Ireland. It includes in
its remit the study of dance in Ireland in all its manifestations and
aims at promoting and supporting dance scholarship in Ireland. The
Dance Forum was launched by Dr Catherine Foley on the 28th June, 2003,
at the Society of Dance History Scholars' Annual International
Conference, Dance History on Shannon's Shores which was hosted by the
Irish World Music Centre, University of Limerick. This was the first
time in 26 years that this conference was hosted outside North America
and it was also the first international dance conference to be held in
Ireland. Launching the Irish Dance Research Forum at this convention
provided an international platform for dance scholars in Ireland to
share and to contribute to the wider discourse in international dance
scholarship.

The establishment of the Irish Dance Research Forum is timely given the
increased number of postgraduate and post-doctorate scholars researching
dance in Ireland in the last decade, and the increased number of third
level programmes in Ireland which include dance scholarship. The Dance
Forum provides a platform for presentation, discussion, and critical
reflection on issues relating to dance and welcomes dance scholars from
all scholarly traditions of dance in Ireland. It is important that
Ireland is represented within the global discourse in dance studies and
all perspectives and disciplines relating to dance are included in these
discourses. These include, Ethnochoreology, Dance History, Gender
Studies, Irish Studies,
Reconstruction, Documentation and Performance Studies.

15th October, 2003
11.00. 13.00 Meeting of the Irish Dance Research Forum
The Irish World Music Centre, University of Limerick

14.30 - 17.00
Irish Dance Research Forum:
Presentation of Work-in-Progress by Irish Dance Research Scholars.

Chair: Dr Catherine Foley

Speakers: Olive Beecher, Irene Horgan, Dorothy Morrissey, Orfhlaith Ni
Bhriain, and Victoria O'Brien

From: patrick maume
Sender: P.Maume[at]Queens-Belfast.AC.UK
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Ir-D Canadian Journal of Irish Studies - O'Connell and
duels

From:Patrick Maume

P.O'S wrote...
>
> I found especially interesting an article by Bruce Dolphin, based on a

> find in the Hardinge Collection at McGill University - some notes of
> an interview with Daniel O'Connell in 1830, when O'Connell was almost
> sucked into fighting another duel. O'Connell is clearly trying to
> find a way of preserving honour, without killing or being killed.
>
> I have already mentioned this article in a discussion about duels on
> another list. In the background to Dolphin's article is the famous
> (in Irish history) 1815 duel between Daniel O'Connell and John
> D'Esterre, a classic example of the duel as a continuation of politics

> by other means
> - O'Connell as the representative of Irish Catholic nationalism,
> D'Esterre the Orange party. There are discussions of O'Connell and
the
> dueling codes of his time in the standard lives - eg Oliver MacDonagh.
> One reading of that chain of events is that it was an attempt to
remove
> O'Connell and O'Connellism from politics. In the event O'Connell
killed
> D'Esterre.

Anyone interested in the issue of O'Connell and duelling codes
might like to consult the edition of THE REPEALER REPULSED by
William McComb which I have just brought out in UCD Press's
CLASSICS IN IRISH HISTORY series [for details see the UCD Press
website at www.ucdpress.ie] . The book is a hostile account of
O'Connell's 1841 visit to Belfast and the debating challenge
issued to him by the conservative Presbyterian leader Henry
Cooke. My introduction argues that Cooke's challenge reflects a
variant of the honour-code which underpinned duelling, and that
the whole thing represented an attempt to show O'Connell's
unfitness for citizenship by ritual shaming and ridicule.
One reference which I unfortunately didn't discover until
after the book had gone to press is Gavan Duffy's account in MY
LIFE IN TWO HEMISPHERES; Duffy (like other pro-O'Connell
observers) takes the view that O'Connell's courage was
sufficiently vindicated by going to Belfast at all, and he
compares the journey to Belfast with the D'Esterre duel.
I hope this doesn't smack too much of self-promotion, but I
thought it was unquestionably relevant to the subject under
discussion.
Best wishes,
Patrick

From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

We have been sent the TOC of the latest issue of the Canadian Journal of
Irish Studies by a helpful Ir-D member.

CJIS 27/2, 28/1, the last under the editorship of Michael Kenneally, is
as ever beautifully designed, and full of intriguing matter.

I found especially interesting an article by Bruce Dolphin, based on a
find in the Hardinge Collection at McGill University - some notes of an
interview with Daniel O'Connell in 1830, when O'Connell was almost
sucked into fighting another duel. O'Connell is clearly trying to find
a way of preserving honour, without killing or being killed.

I have already mentioned this article in a discussion about duels on
another list. In the background to Dolphin's article is the famous (in
Irish history) 1815 duel between Daniel O'Connell and John D'Esterre, a
classic example of the duel as a continuation of politics by other means
- - O'Connell as the representative of Irish Catholic nationalism,
D'Esterre the Orange party. There are discussions of O'Connell and the
dueling codes of his time in the standard lives - eg Oliver MacDonagh.
One reading of that chain of events is that it was an attempt to remove
O'Connell and O'Connellism from politics. In the event O'Connell killed
D'Esterre.

The Back Burner piece at the end of the list is by me - it is
essentially a review of Christopher Morash, Writing the Irish Famine.
This piece creates resonances within this volume of CJIS, for the
photo-essay by LUCIENNE PAYAN & FRANCE LABERGE looks at the monuments
and surviving buildings of Grosse Ile. I am very grateful to editor
Michael Kenneally for rescuing from my back burner my homage to Chris
Morash and his book.

P.O'S.


Subject: CJIS - Table of Contents


Canadian Journal of Irish Studies

Vol 27, No 2, Fall 2001

Vol 28, No 1, Spring 2002

Contents

8 Beckett is Vertical: Proselytizing With The Littles, 1929-1938 - CRAIG
MONK

20 Seamus Heaney and the Ethics of Translation - EUGENE O'BRIEN

38 Daniel O'Connell: An Interview from the Archives - BRUCE DOLPHIN

44 Photo Essay: Grosse-Île. Dans la matière, des ténèbres vers la
lumière: un
voyage symbolique - LUCIENNE PAYAN & FRANCE LABERGE

66 An Interview with Ben Barnes - KATE BLIGH

78 Gerry Adams, Moving Target - HEATHER ZWICKER

96 Poems - MOYA CANNON

102 The Northern Ireland Peace Process and Europeanization: A Critical
Response - GARY PEATLING

112 Profiles of Irish-Canadians: Paul Kane - LORRIE BLAIR

117 Review Essay by John Wilson Foster

121 Book Reviews

Robert Mahony
Francis M. Carroll
Ron Rudin
Ben Novick
Paul O'Mahony
John P. McCarthy
John Bradley
Joseph Morrison Skelly
Nicholas Allen
John Swan
Claire Delisle
Brian John
Christine St. Peter
Joseph M. Hassett
Peter Kuch
Michael Patrick Gillespie
Christine Hunt Mahony
Dawn Duncan
Finn Gallagher
Christine Neufeld

Briefly Noted entries by Finn Gallagher, Brian John, Robert Aitken

164 From the Back Burner by Patrick O'Sullivan

166 Contributors