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23 June 1999 14:41  
  
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:41:28 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D UCC Conference: Management of Government MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.4cEd5348.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D UCC Conference: Management of Government
  
Neil Collins
  
From: Neil Collins
Conference: Management of Government


The Department of Government and the Department of Law at University
College, Cork are organising a conference "Management of Government in the
new Millennium". The conference is scheduled for Friday and Saturday,
October 1st and 2nd 1999, in U.C.C.

The conference will deal with S.M.I. [Strategic Management Initiative, the
Irish government reform programme] in general. It is anticipated that
the focus of the sessions will deal with Quality Customer Service, Freedom
of Information, Performance Management, Management of Cross Cutting Issues.

The debate on these topics in Ireland draws heavily on experience in
Australia, New Zealand, North America and Britain. It would be useful,
therefore, to have contributions from members of the Irish-Diaspora list
who might have research or other interests in NPM [New Public Management,
generic term for similar reforms elsewhere] etc.

Thank you

Neil Collins
Dept of Government
UCC

Professor Neil Collins,
Department of Government,
National University of Ireland, Cork,
Western Road,
Cork, IRELAND

Tel +353-21-902770
Fax +353-21-903135
E-Mail n.collins[at]ucc.ie
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23 June 1999 21:00  
  
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:00:28 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Interviews London for Documentary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.CAb1D349.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Interviews London for Documentary
  
DanCas1@aol.com
  
From: DanCas1[at]aol.com

Subject: Interviews in London June 29 and June 30-for Television Documentary


Dear Ir-D List Members:

We are conducting interviews on camera on June 29 and 30th at the Kypriana
Hotel 89 Chalk farm Road, London; telephone 0171-267-3912.

I would be especially interested in speaking with scholars on the Orange Order and
on the Irish in Britain. Interviews can usually be done (like a dental
appointment) in under an hour. We would prefer to conduct the interviews at
the hotel for reasons of lighting and sound, but will travel if necessary.

Please contact me at if you might be interested, or call at
the Kypriana.

We leave for Ireland on July 1, and will be doing interviews there (primarily in the
"6 counties") July 2-13.

Thanks & Best Regards

Daniel Cassidy
Producer
Global Vision Inc.
NYC, NY
212-246-0202
415-821-4482 (home)
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24 June 1999 13:00  
  
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:00:00 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Through Irish Eyes Conference, Ballarat, MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.481C5341.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Through Irish Eyes Conference, Ballarat,
  
Jill Blee
  
From: "Jill Blee"
Organization: University of Ballarat

Subject: Through Irish Eyes Conference, Ballarat,


The Australian Studies Centre at the University of Ballarat invites
you to participate in Through Irish Eyes, a conference to investigate
the Irish contribution to Federation and the Australian Identity, to
be held in Ballarat on December 3 -5, 1999.

The Conference Programme, together with booking and accommodation
information can be obtained from our website:
http://www.ballarat.edu.au/bssh/asc/throughi.htm

Abstracts can be sent to:
Jill Blee
School of Behavioural and Social Sciences and Humanities
University of Ballarat,
PO Box 663
Ballarat
Victoria 3353
Telephone: 0353 27 9710
Fax: 0353 27 9840
email: j.blee[at]ballarat.edu.au
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24 June 1999 16:00  
  
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:00:00 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Archaeology at Ballykilcline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.6CE728D1344.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Archaeology at Ballykilcline
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Patrick O'Sullivan

I am getting requests for further information about Charles Orser's
archaeology at Ballykilcline.

This is what I know, and any one who knows more than I do can chime in.

Basically the site has been untouched since it was abandoned/cleared in
1847, at the height of the great famine.

The site is near Strokestown in County Roscommon. The site is off the
road from Scramoge to Roosky on the shore of Kilglass Lough, right
across the road from the Glebe House, before you reach Kilglass
Cemetery. It is about 4-5 miles from the Leitrim border. If you suddenly
find yourself in Roosky, you've gone too far.

Charles Orser does have a web-site, but he feels it needs more work on
it. Next year it will be much better. Its address is
.

Charles is happy for anyone who is interested to visit. The dates when
there will be work on the site are July 5 - August 7.

Also... various events are planned for the weekend around August 7.
There will be the usual end-of-dig-shindig. More formal events will
involve eminent scholars and some 100 Irish Americans, some of whom are
descended from the people who left Ballykilcline in 1847.

Paddy O'Sullivan
- --
Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 0521605
Fax International +44 870 0521605

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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24 June 1999 16:01  
  
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:01:00 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Men behind bars MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.C58D342.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Men behind bars
  
The following book review might be of interest to Irish-Diaspora list
members who are interested in the cultures of masculinity, bar rooms,
and the like - and current thinking in those areas. Good references.

P.O'S.

Reviewed for H-Urban by Perry Duis
Madelon Powers. _Faces Along the Bar: Lore and Order in the
Workingman's Saloon, 1870-1920_. Historical Studies of Urban
America. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1998. xii + 323
pp. Notes, illustrations, and index. $25.00 (cloth), ISBN
0-226-67768-0; $16.00 (paper), ISBN 0-226-67769-9.
http://www.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=12228926450205

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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 0521605
Fax International +44 870 0521605

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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24 June 1999 16:40  
  
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:40:28 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D The Dark Side... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.5f1EE5Ce343.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D The Dark Side...
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Patrick O'Sullivan

Few Ir-D strands in recent times have provoked as much comment as 'The
Dark Side...' - people have been stopping me to discuss it in hushed
tones, and private emails refer to it.

So, thank you to Carmel McCaffrey for starting the discussion. Some of
the key players in that discussion have gone on holiday - so it looks as
if the discussion will peter out with Anthony McNicholas's thoughtful
and moving contribution. Thank you to Anthony.

I always feel that we on the Ir-D list should do a little bit more...
When I have a moment I'll write up a little note on what I think what
was happening in 'The Dark Side discussion'. It was a Diaspora-wide
discussion.

Meanwhile - amongst the things brought to our attention is this, from
our New York correspondent: an item from Time Out New York, Stephen
Talty on Shane MacGowan (founder member of The Pogues...)

'McGowan is the world's premier drunken Irish genius, in the tradition
of writer Brenda Behan. He is an alcoholic's alcoholic... How can you
not admire a man who seems to have walked through every gutter in the
world... and still managed to write some of the most romantic songs in
pop history?...'

And the writer, Stephen Talty, goes on... 'The start of my fascination
with MacGowan coincided with an intense chapter in my own mick history.
I was raised Irish Catholic... I have gone about as far into the mick
experience as you can go without tattooing a harp across your face. But
I never bought into the official Irish-American culture epitomized by
St. Patrick's Day: a sentimental mash of victimhood, boosterism and
fake cheer. When I travelled back to Clare ten years ago, I saw a
different Ireland firsthand: I slept in the bed where my young aunt had
dies of TB years earlier, a victim of poverty and botched medical
care... the songs of Shane MacGowan... are equal to the Ireland I knew,
to its essential terror and wildness...'

A piece not without its own internal contradictions then... But it
continues the theme.

P.O'S.


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Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 0521605
Fax International +44 870 0521605

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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26 June 1999 11:40  
  
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:40:28 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D New Hibernia Review, Vol. 3. No. 2, Summer 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.4eD8C71345.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D New Hibernia Review, Vol. 3. No. 2, Summer 1999
  
Forwarded on behalf of "Redshaw, Thomas D" ...


Dear Readers of the Irish-Diaspora List:

The second issue of volume three of New Hibernia Review goes out in
the post the first week of July. We at the Center for Irish Studies regret
the delay of one week. End-of-term duties and the wonderful, luxurious ACIS
meeting Roanoke, Virginia, have distracted us, alas.

This Summer, 1999, issue contains an assortment of articles, many of
which touch upon views of the North and the "Troubles." Amidst that
assortment are two features we hope readers will make special note of.
First, our advisory editor for Irish folklore has sent us our second "Letter
from Ireland" article. Second, we have managed to gather together a wee
section of short articles concerned with issues of the translation of Irish
writing -from Gaeilge into English and from English into Spanish-and both
into the New Europe.

Here is a brief rundown of the articles in this tenth issue of New
Hibernia Review since its inauguration in 1997.

Brian Ferran, of the Arts Council of Northern Ireland, on the
painting of Basil Blackshaw, who provided the artwork for the covers of the
inaugural volume of NHR.

The "Letter from Ireland" by Ray Cashman describing the life and
death of traditions in the west Tyrone townland of Ballymongan.

Richard Haslam on the narratological patternings of Neil Jordan's
films.

A suite of classically framed, rich war poems by Michael Longley.

Paul F. Power on the implications of the Good Friday Accord for the
future of republicanism in Ireland.

An analysis by Karen Steele of Maud Gonne's writings in the United
Irishman in the first decade of the twentieth century.

An analysis by Brian Liddy of John McGahern's fictional renderings
of 1950s and 1960s Ireland.

Mark Harman on Seamus Heaney's translations of Buile Suibhne,
followed by Kaarina Hollo's views of Paul Muldoon's versions of Nuala Ni/
Dhomhnaill's poetry, followed by Maribel Butler de Foley reflecting on her
many translations of Irish fiction into Spanish.

James Blake reporting on Irish-language theater in the 1990s.

Book reviews, cover note, and news of NHR authors round out this
issue.

Readers of the list interested in contributing to future issues of
New Hibernia Review should contact James Rogers, Managing Editor, during the
months of July and August. His e-mail address is: jrogers[at]stthomas.edu
. After August, please send enquiries to
Thomas Dillon Redshaw, Editor, at: tdredshaw[at]ststhomas.edu
.

Thanks for taking a few moment out of your summer to read this.

Thomas Dillon Redshaw, Editor
New Hibernia Review
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28 June 1999 12:01  
  
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:01:00 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Call for Papers, Food MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.dBd0dF346.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Call for Papers, Food
  
This Call for Papers might interest scholars of the Irish Famine, and
Irish famines - famine issues are specifically mentioned, and the Irish
Famine does have that peculiar privileged place in 'the discourse of
famine'...

P.O'S.

------- Forwarded message follows -------
From: MReger1301[at]aol.com


PROTEUS: A Journal of Ideas

Call for Papers

Food

For its Spring 2000 issue, Proteus: A Journal of Ideas seeks essays and
scholarly articles that examine food in a wide range of contexts and from a
wide range of perspectives.

Submissions are encouraged from every discipline including, but not limited
to, literature, the sciences, sociology, psychology, business, philosophy,
women's studies, cultural studies, and history. We seek both broad
theoretical inquiries into the issues of food, food production, and food
consumption as well as more focused inquiries into specific topics.

Submissions may address the politics, philosophy, economics, and science of
food; food in literature, the arts, and film; the issues of famine and
starvation; food and diet as cultural and/or historical phenomena; eating
disorders; and the relationship between health and nutrition. We also
encourage submission of creative essays relating to the themes of food and
eating as well as poetry, photographs, or slides.

Deadline (postmark) for manuscripts is October 1, 1999.
Publication date is April 2000.
Manuscripts must be typed, double-spaced, and should follow the Chicago text
format when possible. (For style sheet, send request along with
self-addressed, stamped business envelope to the address below.)

Articles may not exceed 5,000 words with 3,000 words or fewer preferred.
Send FIVE manuscript copies to:
Proteus Managing Editor, Old Main 302, Shippensburg University, 1871 Old
Main
Drive, Shippensburg PA 17257-2299.
(Tel: 717-532-1206)

Include a self-addressed, stamped 9x12 envelope if you would like the
manuscript returned. Manuscripts chosen for publication must be transferred
to 3 1/2 inch computer disk and edited to Chicago Text format.

A member of Pennsylvania's State System of Higher Education

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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 0521605
Fax International +44 870 0521605

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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29 June 1999 09:01  
  
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:01:00 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Northern Ireland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.bcfDDd352.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Northern Ireland
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Patrick O'Sullivan

The Irish-Diaspora list, as a corporate entity, does not track the
twists and turns of events in Northern Ireland - there are many other
places on the Internet that do that. I usually direct people who are
closely interested in events in Northern Ireland to Chris Gilligan's
list. And here we try to concentrate on things that we can do well.

But the individual members of the Irish-Diaspora list are, of course,
deeply concerned about events in the northern part of Ireland. I don't
usually like to comment on events - it is far too easy to say things
that make matters worse, and very difficult, at a distance, to say
anything that makes matters better.

There are deeply significant times of year that attract danger and
incident. One is St. Patrick's Day, March 17 - and events this year
were just too distressing to comment on. Another is the anniversary of
the Battle of the Boyne, on July 1 (old style, Julian calendar), or July
12, or maybe July 11 (new style, Gregorian calendar). These dates carry
even greater weight this year, and our thoughts are with our friends in
the North of Ireland.

Patrick O'Sullivan
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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 0521605
Fax International +44 870 0521605

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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29 June 1999 09:20  
  
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:20:00 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Archaeology at Ballykilcline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.eAe3b10e351.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Archaeology at Ballykilcline
  
Elizabeth Creely
  
From: "Elizabeth Creely"

Subject: RE: Ir-D Archaeology at Ballykilcline


I will be in Ireland August 3rd to August 17th- I'm still developing an
itinerary. Is the web site the best way to get in touch with Charles
Orser?

"Elizabeth Creely"






>From Patrick O'Sullivan

I am getting requests for further information about Charles Orser's
archaeology at Ballykilcline.

This is what I know, and any one who knows more than I do can chime in.

Basically the site has been untouched since it was abandoned/cleared in
1847, at the height of the great famine.

The site is near Strokestown in County Roscommon. The site is off the
road from Scramoge to Roosky on the shore of Kilglass Lough, right
across the road from the Glebe House, before you reach Kilglass
Cemetery. It is about 4-5 miles from the Leitrim border. If you suddenly
find yourself in Roosky, you've gone too far.

Charles Orser does have a web-site, but he feels it needs more work on
it. Next year it will be much better. Its address is
.

Charles is happy for anyone who is interested to visit. The dates when
there will be work on the site are July 5 - August 7.

Also... various events are planned for the weekend around August 7.
There will be the usual end-of-dig-shindig. More formal events will
involve eminent scholars and some 100 Irish Americans, some of whom are
descended from the people who left Ballykilcline in 1847.

Paddy O'Sullivan
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29 June 1999 09:21  
  
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:21:00 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Confederate comparisons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.Fe83350.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Confederate comparisons
  
Patrick Maume
  
From: Patrick Maume





From: Patrick Maume
One of the smaller Ulster Independence groups here (formerly the
Ulster wing of the National Front) has established links with
neo-Confederate groups in the United States and taken to comparing
protests against Confederate commemorations in America with protests
against Orange marches here, complaining that both reflect worldwide
persecution of the Scots-Irish yadda yadda yadda. Has anyone done
any work on comparing the two controversies. (For those unfamiliar
with the American controversies I am not talking about just the Ku
Klux Klan here; I'm talking about complaints, especially by black
groups, that flying the Confederate flag, having Confederate war
memorials, eulogising Robert E Lee etc is racist not only because of
their association with segregation but because the Confederates were
racists who fought to maintain slavery and therefore don't deserve to
be commemorated.)
I'm going to Dublin for a ten-day research trip, so I'll leave you
this to chew over.
Best wishes,
Patrick.

From: Patrick Maume
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29 June 1999 09:23  
  
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:23:00 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Cassidy's Travels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.d8cda8F354.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Cassidy's Travels
  
[Danny Cassidy is now on his way from San Francisco to London, England, and to
Ireland. I have pasted in, below, his two recent messages - to remind Ir-D members
in England and in Ireland of Danny's plans. P.O'S.]



From: DanCas1[at]aol.com

Subject: Interviews in London June 29 and June 30-for Television Documentary


Dear Ir-D List Members:

We are conducting interviews on camera on June 29 and 30th at the Kypriana
Hotel 89 Chalk farm Road, London; telephone 0171-267-3912.

I would be especially interested in speaking with scholars on the Orange Order and
on the Irish in Britain. Interviews can usually be done (like a dental
appointment) in under an hour. We would prefer to conduct the interviews at
the hotel for reasons of lighting and sound, but will travel if necessary.

Please contact me at if you might be interested, or call at
the Kypriana.

We leave for Ireland on July 1, and will be doing interviews there (primarily in the
"6 counties") July 2-13.

Thanks & Best Regards

Daniel Cassidy
Producer
Global Vision Inc.
NYC, NY
212-246-0202
415-821-4482 (home)


From: DanCas1[at]aol.com


I am currently beginning production on a documentary film I am producing and
directing for Global Vision in New York City; Danny Schechter is executive
producer.

The film, "CHURCHES OF FIRE - Ireland & America" will attempt to examine
issues of race, ethnicity, so-called "minority communities," and religious
sectarianism in Ireland and the United States, in both a historic and
contemporaneous context. I will be filming in Ireland, the UK, and the United
States and am primarily interested in talking with community people and
activists who are "on the ground," so to speak, and having to confront these
increasingly lethal and volatile questions in their everyday lives. I am also
interested in talking with artists, writers, musicians, scholars,
journalists, religious people, and/or just general troublemakers, who might
be willing to contribute to an analysis of these subjects, either on or off
camera.

First principal photography and interviews will begin in London on June 29,
30, and morning of July 1st. We will then be on the Garvaghy Road in
Portadown from approximately July 2nd-6th. After that we will be in Belfast,
Coalisland, Derry and Dublin. We will try to be in Clare at least one day. We
depart on July 14th.

We will then be filming in the southern United States, NYC and Boston. We are
hoping to complete the production in the spring of 2000.

Please e-mail me at dancas1[at]aol.com; or phone: 415-241-1302, ext.714, or
415-821-4482, fax:415-285-5947 with any suggestions or information.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Sincerely,

Daniel Cassidy
Producer
Churches of Fire
Global Vision
NYC, NY

Director
Irish Studies Program
An Leann Eireannach
New College of California
766 Valencia St.
San Francisco, Ca. 94131



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Patrick O'Sullivan
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29 June 1999 10:01  
  
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:01:00 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Database - First or Third? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.827b1b42353.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Database - First or Third?
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Patrick O'Sullivan

Entries for the database of Irish-Diaspora list members' interest are
coming in. We'll be processing them, and pasting them up on the
website's secret Ir-D lists members' page over the next week or so.

A completely foreseeable problem has arisen, and I should have foreseen
it.

Should 'statements' for the database be written in the First Person? -
'I am Patrick O'Sullivan and this is what I do...'
or the Third Person? -
'Patrick O'Sullivan does this, this and this, and would like to do
this...'

Actually, it turns out that how you respond depends on which form you
meet first. If you meet first a statement in the First Person, then
statements in the Third Person give you an impression of people who are
prim and stuffy. If you meet first statements in the Third Person then
statements in the First Person give you an impression of people who are
bubbly airheads.

So, we have to have a standard. And, on balance, we have decided to go
for the more formal, Third Person, style.

People who have sent in statements in the more informal, First Person,
style need not worry - I will re-write them.

Paddy O'Sullivan


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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Irish-Diaspora list
Irish Diaspora Studies http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/diaspora/

Personal Fax National 0870 0521605
Fax International +44 870 0521605

Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:21:00 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Confederate comparisons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.7ac2ddC5356.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Confederate comparisons
  
Brian Dooley
  
From: Brian Dooley


Subject: Ir-D Confederate comparisons


I didn't really touch on this in my book Black and Green, but there's some
stuff in there in Paisley and his links to the Bob Jones University, which
upheld segregation until very recently, also a brief discussion of surface
similarities between the Klan and the Orange Order.
Hope this helps
Brian Dooley
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:22:00 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Transcomm News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.FE021355.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9906.txt]
  
Ir-D Transcomm News
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Patrick O'Sullivan

There is a new issue out of Transcomm News, the Official Newsletter of
the ESRC Transnational Communities Programme.

You can be put on the mailing list by contacting Anna Winton, tel. 01865
274711, fax 01865 274718, email

A quarterly news brief 'Traces' appears on the ESRC Transnational
Communities Programme web site
http://www.transcomm.ox.ac.uk

Has anyone been following developments within this research programme,
and does anyone have any comments?

[Background information - the ESRC is the main funder of 'social
science' research in the United Kingdom of GB and NI. We put
considerable effort into getting the word 'Irish' (and the word 'women')
into the original Transnational Communities research programme proposal.
But no Irish subject matter research was funded. The Irish do appear in
the background bibliographies on the transcomm web site, but I see no
sign that insights from the Irish material are being taken on board.]

I think I can be allowed some sour grapes within protective embrace of
the Irish-Diaspora list. So far I am finding the material emanating
from this research programme very disappointing. A real feeling that
buzzwords, like 'transnational communities' and 'diaspora', are being
attached to the same old post-colonial agenda.

And now I find myself quarrelling with myself. Thus, I am aware that
the ESRC likes its 'social science' to be very 'science-y'. It likes to
fund research that will be of interest to 'research-users' - which tend
to be government or quasi-government bodies, interested in 'problems'
and 'crises'. Maybe that shapes the research agenda.

I will stop now.

Paddy O'Sullivan
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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
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England
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Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:44:18 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Confederate comparisons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.0DFBBE357.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9907.txt]
  
Ir-D Confederate comparisons
  
Eileen A Sullivan
  
From: Eileen A Sullivan

Dear Patrick,

Hopefully, I will see you at the Carleton Summer School. I will be there
from Aug 3-6.

On the Confederate issue, while I was at Queens U in Belfast (1995), I
mentioned the similarities between the KKK and the violent Orangemen to a
scholar there. She was totally horrified that I should make such a
comparison. It doesn't mean that all of the slavery supporters were
such people. John Mitchel, for instance, who lost two sons in the Civil
War. I am trying to organize a panel discussion on Mitchell and Meagher
who helped to get Mitchel's prison release after the war.



Eileen A. Sullivan Tel # (352) 332 3690
6412 NW 128th Street E-Mail : eolas1[at]juno.com
Gainesville, FL 32653



------- Forwarded message follows -------



From: Patrick Maume





From: Patrick Maume
One of the smaller Ulster Independence groups here (formerly the
Ulster wing of the National Front) has established links with
neo-Confederate groups in the United States and taken to comparing
protests against Confederate commemorations in America with protests
against Orange marches here, complaining that both reflect worldwide
persecution of the Scots-Irish yadda yadda yadda. Has anyone done
any work on comparing the two controversies. (For those unfamiliar
with the American controversies I am not talking about just the Ku
Klux Klan here; I'm talking about complaints, especially by black
groups, that flying the Confederate flag, having Confederate war
memorials, eulogising Robert E Lee etc is racist not only because of
their association with segregation but because the Confederates were
racists who fought to maintain slavery and therefore don't deserve to
be commemorated.)
I'm going to Dublin for a ten-day research trip, so I'll leave you
this to chew over.
Best wishes,
Patrick.

From: Patrick Maume
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5 July 1999 20:44  
  
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:44:18 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Sociology of the Irish Diaspora MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.3dDcEcF1358.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9907.txt]
  
Ir-D Sociology of the Irish Diaspora
  
FROM
  
FROM
Dr. Jim McAuley
Reader in Behavioural Sciences
School of Human & Health Sciences
The University of Huddersfield
West Yorkshire
HD1 3DH
England

Internal Telephone: extension 2691
Telephone: +44(0)1484 - 472691
Mobile: 0850 - 144239

-------------------------------------------------------

The Irish Journal of Sociology/
Iris SocheolaÌochta na hÉireann

Call for Papers:

Special Edition on 'The Sociology of the Irish Diaspora'


The Irish Journal of Sociology is the journal of The Sociological
Association of Ireland/Cumann Socheoláiochta na hÉireann, which was
founded in 1973. It is publishing a special edition of the journal in
late 2000 focusing on the major social aspects of Irish emigration, the
Irish diaspora and the lifestyles, politics and cultures of the Irish
abroad.

The Irish Diaspora is a focus for those many social researchers
recognising that Irish culture, politics, subjectivity and identity are
increasingly contested contemporary debates. This special edition of the
Irish Journal of Sociology seeks to engage with important theoretical
and political shifts in the approaches to questions of 'difference' and
of the social construction of 'Irishness'. It also seeks to involve
those who analyse such changes in gendered and racialised discourses
regarding identity and state practices.

Much of the material currently available on the Irish diaspora lies
along a history/literature axis. While this material is clearly
worthwhile in its own right, this volume of the Irish Journal of
Sociology seeks to act as a useful redress in this balance. It is the
first leading social science journal of which we are aware to devote an
entire issue to this theme.

Priority will be given to those working primarily within the
sociological tradition. However, the intention is also to include, if
possible, papers in fields related to sociology such as comparative
history, cultural studies, social policy, social geography, social
anthropology, postcolonial studies and women's studies.

Papers will be published in Irish or in English.

Submission of an abstract, or an article based on it, is not a guarantee
of publication. All submissions will be subject to peer-review and all
material submitted will be subject to a final decision by the Editorial
Board.

Anyone interested in contributing should send an abstract of about 500
words, or a completed paper for peer review, by Friday 24th September
1999
to:

Dr. James W. McAuley
Guest Editor, Irish Journal of Sociology
School of Human and Health Sciences
The University of Huddersfield
West Yorkshire
England
HD1 3DH
Telephone: +44(0)1484-472691
E-Mail: j.w.mcauley[at]hud.ac.uk

OR

Dr. Denis O'Hearn
Irish Journal of Sociology,
Department of Sociology and Social Policy,
Queen's University of Belfast,
Belfast BT7 1NN,
N. Ireland
E-Mail: D.Ohearn[at]qub.ac.uk


Those authors whose work is to be included will be informed by Friday
1st October 1999. The special volume of the Irish Journal of Sociology
will be published in October 2000.

Further details of The Irish Journal of Sociology can be found at
http://www.qub.ac.uk/ss/ssp/ijsoc.htm and details of the Sociological
Association of Ireland at http://www.qub.ac.uk/ss/ssp/sai.htm
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:21:28 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Heriberto MacLoughlin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.a5FFef359.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9907.txt]
  
Ir-D Heriberto MacLoughlin
  
Brian McGinn
  
From: "Brian McGinn"

Subject: Heriberto MacLoughlin


Guillermo MacLoughlin has informed us of the recent death of his father,
Heriberto MacLoughlin, at age 81 in Buenos Aires. The late Sr. MacLoughlin
was a farmer and businessman who traced his family roots to an 1844
immigrant to Argentina from Glascorn, Mullingar, Co. Westmeath. The funeral
mass at San Tarcisio church was followed by burial at Mercedes cemetery, in
a family vault built in 1890 by Guillermo's great grandfather Thomas
Maguire. (Like most Irish families in Argentina, the MacLoughlins trace
their Irish roots to ancestors from three counties in - in this case Maguires
and MacLoughlins from Westmeath, Garrahans from Longford, and Rossiters
from Wexford). At the graveside, the president of the Sociedad Rural of
Suipacha a prominent agricultural institution of which the late Heriberto
MacLoughlin was a founder paid tribute, and the superior of the Pallotine
Order, Fr. Jeremy Murphy, offered prayers in English. Our condolences to
Guillermo and his family.

Brian McGinn
Alexandria, Virginia
bmcginn[at]clark.net
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:22:28 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Book review - nineteenth century Fermanagh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.F3A6361.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9907.txt]
  
Ir-D Book review - nineteenth century Fermanagh
  
Patrick Maume
  
From: Patrick Maume
Subject: Book review - nineteenth century Fermanagh


From : Patrick Maume
Seamas Mac Annaidh FERMANAGH BOOKS, WRITERS AND NEWSPAPERS OF THE
NINETEENTH CENTURY (Marmara Denizi, Enniskillen & Belfast, 6, Upper
Celtic Park, Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh, 1999) ISBN 0 9534747 0 4
pbk pp113 9.95 stg
Seamas MacAnnaidh prides himself on being the first Fermanagh-born
novelist since Shan Bullock (1865-1935). He has written several
novels in Irish including CUIFEACH MO LONDUBH BUI and MO DHA MHICI.
While working at the Fermanagh County Library in Enniskillen he
noticed that many local historians tended to rely on local
histories like Fr. Peadar Livingstone's FERMANAGH STORY and
William Copeland Trimble's [no relation of David] three volume
HISTORY OF ENNISKILLEN as comprehensive rather than as
starting-points, and became aware of the need for a Fermanagh county
bibliography similar to those existing for several other Irish
counties. He decided as a first step to offer one for the nineteenth
century because of its formative role in shaping present-day
Fermanagh. The book covers those who were born or spent a large part
of their adult working lives in Fermanagh, who published while living
in Fermanagh, or who were bishops or other high officials of the
Catholic or Anglican dioceses of Clogher. (Thus Oscar Wilde and HF
Lyte do not get a look in).
The book certainly sheds some interesting lights on the politics of
nineteenth-century Fermanagh, including United Irishmen, Orangemen,
Land Leaguers and controversialists of all stripes (some distinctively
opportunistic, such as the Catholic journalist Edward Duffy who ran "a
milk and water paper, neither one thing or the other.. he divides his
talents and his articles are as frequently Orange as they are
Catholic" or the Orangeman Captain William Gabbett who played a
discreditable role in the execution of Ignatius MacManus after a
party fight in 1829, but by 1835 had changed his political colours
and was involved in the demolition of an Orange arch in Enniskillen).
It also includes accounts of trials involving famous or notorious
individuals (such as Percy Jocelyn, Anglican Bishop of Clogher, whose
deposition after being discovered committing sodomy with a soldier was
often quoted by critics of the Established Church or Fr. Tom Maguire,
the Catholic controversialist whose trial for seduction -in which he
was successfully defended by Daniel O'Connell - has recently been
discussed by Pronsias O Duigeanain the Leitrim historian and inspired
Vincent Woods' play THE CRY OF THE YELLOW BITTERN, and JGV Porter, the
eccentric Buttite landlord and proponent of Lough Erne drainage, whose
comments on Lord Erne's style of railway management cost him 300 in
libel damages).
Students of the Irish diaspora will be interested in its coverage of
Irish-born emigrant writers - for example, Hugh Hastings (1818-83) who
spent much of his life as a journalist and editor in Albany (New
York) or Patrick Neeson Lynch, RC bishop of Charleston SC who acted as
a Confederate envoy to the Vatican in 1863.
The accounts of Fermanagh publishers and titles and of local
newspapers (which MacAnnaidh has used in searching out information
about obscure authors) adds considerably to the value of the work. It
might have been improvedc further by a detailed index and by more
information on where copies of these books and newspapers can be
found, but it should be remembered that this is a labour of love and
likely to have a small circulation.
Speaking as someone who came to Femanagh history through an interest
in the novelist Shan Bullock (by the way a one-day Shan Bullock
commemorative event is being held this October by the National Trust
Heritage centre on the Crom estate, where Bullock was born and spent
his childhood; I'll post further details as I get them) I think it is
a great pity that more attention is not paid to Fermanagh (perhaps
because Northern Ireland historians tend to focus on industrialism
and Presbyterians, both of which were in short supply in
nineteenth-century Fermanagh). Its large Church of Ireland population
made it an early centre of Orangeism, and its larger gentry like the
Ernes, Enniskillens and Belmores were at the core of
ninenteenth-century Irish Toryism and early Ulster Unionism - I think
it could provide an useful case-study of the process of
identity-foration (on both sides) along an ethnic border. Its
agrarian history - severely hit by the Famine, and a major centre of
Land League activity with some Protestant involvement - also deserves
more attention. I was glad to find at the recent ACIS conference that
Joan Vincent of Barnard is currently working on the Land War in
Fermanagh, and hope this will spark more interest in Fermanagh local
history. In the meantime I would urge anyone who has an interest in
the area to buy MacAnnaidh's book - these sort of locally produced
books tend to have a small circulation so I'm posting this review in
the hope of increasing it.
In honour of the current season I'll leave you with a humorist's
view of ab Protestant cleric's criticism of certain aspects of the
Twelfth in 1863:
He's got so far in with the Band of Hope, he won't stan' drinkin'
whiskey in the church, or Prodestan' pukin' in the pews - what a
herrytick! As for himself on the Twelfth it's what he preached a
Prodestan' sermon for Prodestan' childer, thinkin' maybe, that was a
Prodestan' way of keepin' up the holiday - But it was coul' stuff for
hot heads sich wether. Howaniver, the boys got the rale stuff from
the Presbyterian clargy, an' no wondher, seein' the gloryus Billy was
a rale blackmouth homself, an' had no gra for the bishops.

Patrick Maume
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:23:28 +0100 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D J. M. O'Neill, etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884590.e6330bF0360.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9907.txt]
  
Ir-D J. M. O'Neill, etc.
  
Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Patrick O'Sullivan

Those of you who have been lying awake at night, worrying about poor
Ultan Cowley unable to get copies of the novels of J. M. O'Neill...

Ultan tells me that that useful man Chris Ryan was able to help, and
Ultan is now avidly reading the navvy novels.

Chris Ryan produces a regular catalogue which he is happy to mail to
Irish-Diaspora list members.

Chris Ryan
Ryan's Books of Irish Interest
18 Trinity Court
Grays Inn Road
London WC1X 8JX

Tel 0171 837 1869
Fax 0171 833 4434

P.O'S.
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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
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Personal Fax National 0870 0521605
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Department of Interdisciplinary Human Studies
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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