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25 April 2004 05:00  
  
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 05:00:00 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D British Muslims the 'New Irish'? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884593.BEAa4819.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0404.txt]
  
Ir-D British Muslims the 'New Irish'?
  
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From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

It has been brought to my attention by friends here in Bradford that this
article, "British Muslims the 'New Irish'?", by Jack O'Sullivan, appeared
first in Q-News, October, 2003. Q-News is a politically moderate
English-language Muslim cultural and political journal. There is a web site
www.q-news.com

In an odd conflation of material, this article in Q-News is illustrated with
(uncredited) photographs, downloaded from The Gypsy Collections at the
University of Liverpool - I recognise 'Irish Travellers on the Road, c.
1950' Photo: Donal Sheehan, and 'Passive Resistance by Irish Travellers,
Ballyfermot 1964' Photo: Max Mulvihill...

Q-News says of the writer: 'Jack O'Sullivan writes on Islam and is a former
columnist of the Catholic Herald. He is also a co-founder of Fathers
Direct.' So, this article appeared in a Muslim journal, and has been
followed up in a sort of left-wing journal, the New Statesman, and a
Catholic journal, the Tablet.

In the same issue of Q-News is an interesting obituary of Edward Said by
Professor Mohammed Bakari.

P.O'S.

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26 April 2004 05:00  
  
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:00:00 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D The Blackwater Lightship, on tv 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884593.a8EB54821.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0404.txt]
  
Ir-D The Blackwater Lightship, on tv 2
  
patrick maume
  
From: patrick maume
Sender: P.Maume[at]Queens-Belfast.AC.UK
To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Ir-D Review, The Blackwater Lightship, on tv


Makes a change from THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE?

----------------------
patrick maume


On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:00:00 irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk wrote:
>
> >From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
> The following item has been brought to our attention...
>
> P.O'S.
>
>
> Angie, Baby!(Arts&Entertainment)(Review) New York Observer, The, Feb
> 2, 2004
>
> Byline: Rex Reed
>
> This is not your mother's Angela Lansbury. In fact, when a generation
> that faithfully watched Murder, She Wrote every Sunday night for 12
> years gets a look at the woman they came to know as mystery writer and
> crime solver Jessica Fletcher in The Blackwater Lightship, they will
> not believe their eyes. The fact that this next presentation on the
> prestigious Hallmark Hall of Fame, scheduled to be broadcast Feb. 4 on
> CBS, is better than any feature film shown so far in 2004 is due in no
> small part to Ms. Lansbury's artistry. But what she looks like in the
> role of a crusty old Irish biddy saddled with the responsibility of
> taking care of a grandson dying of AIDS ... well, get ready to be
> aghast, then amused, then deeply moved to the bottom of your heart.
> From the glam honky-tonk queen who terrorized Judy Garland in The
> Harvey Girls to the pie-making hag in Broadway's Sweeney Todd, versatility
was always her middle name...
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26 April 2004 05:00  
  
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:00:00 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Review, The Blackwater Lightship, on tv MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884593.2fEae8fC4820.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0404.txt]
  
Ir-D Review, The Blackwater Lightship, on tv
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

The following item has been brought to our attention...

P.O'S.


Angie, Baby!(Arts&Entertainment)(Review)
New York Observer, The, Feb 2, 2004

Byline: Rex Reed

This is not your mother's Angela Lansbury. In fact, when a generation that
faithfully watched Murder, She Wrote every Sunday night for 12 years gets a
look at the woman they came to know as mystery writer and crime solver
Jessica Fletcher in The Blackwater Lightship, they will not believe their
eyes. The fact that this next presentation on the prestigious Hallmark Hall
of Fame, scheduled to be broadcast Feb. 4 on CBS, is better than any feature
film shown so far in 2004 is due in no small part to Ms. Lansbury's
artistry. But what she looks like in the role of a crusty old Irish biddy
saddled with the responsibility of taking care of a grandson dying of AIDS
... well, get ready to be aghast, then amused, then deeply moved to the
bottom of your heart. From the glam honky-tonk queen who terrorized Judy
Garland in The Harvey Girls to the pie-making hag in Broadway's Sweeney
Todd, versatility was always her middle name. With no cosmetics, flour-sack
dresses under battered cardigans, two hideous wigs that are a far cry from
Mame and wrinkles that took hours in the makeup department, in this 218th
production of the Hallmark Hall of Fame, Ms. Lansbury is merely marvelous.

She is not alone. Based on the novel by Colm Toibin, The Blackwater
Lightship is an intelligently written, beautifully photographed, intensely
emotional, creatively challenging and physically demanding work with a
uniformly excellent cast of superb actors, directed with great sensitivity
and skill by the estimable John Erman, whose many fine credits include Roots
and An Early Frost. The story focuses on three generations of Irish women
whose strained relationships have soured through decades of
misunderstandings, now reluctantly reunited by a family tragedy. Ms.
Lansbury plays Granny, a tough old bird as briny as the rocks on the cliffs
outside her boarding house on the Irish coast. Dianne Wiest is her daughter
Lily, a self-centered businesswoman who lives in a fancy house in Wexford
and has always placed material success above the needs of her family. Gina
McKee is Lily's daughter Helen, who felt neglected and abandoned as a child
after her father died of cancer and Lily left her and her brother Declan to
be raised by their Granny. Helen hasn't spoken to her mother for 10 years.
Suddenly, they all find themselves back in the rugged seaside village of
Blackwater, dominated by childhood memories of the lighthouse on the beach
constructed from parts of a ship. As foreign to each other as snowbound
strangers in a mountain lodge, the three women, estranged from each other by
miles and temperaments, are forced to resolve their differences and declare
a truce when Declan is revealed to be in the final stages of AIDS and
desperately in need of some tender, loving care. Lily is horrified and, in
her selfish way, furious because nobody told her that her son was even gay.
Helen is overcome with rage and helplessness. But it is Granny who opens her
house and her heart to her difficult and perplexing daughter Lily, her
granddaughter Helen, her grandson Declan (a piercing performance by terrific
Dublin newcomer Keith McErlean), and his two dedicated and implacable gay
friends, Larry (Brian F. O'Byrne) and Paul (Sam Robards), who invade the
tranquillity of the Irish countryside as Declan's primary caregivers. Granny
has never known a homosexual in her life, and every time a car drives up to
her stone cottage by the sea, she drags her arthritic legs to the window,
parts the curtains and sighs, "Here comes another one of them." But she's
been through the hardscrabble school, and nothing much rattles her cage.
This is not your sweet little "Land sakes alive, luv, I smell the porridge
burnin' on me stove" Irish granny, and Ms. Lansbury doesn't play her that
way. She's prickly as an alligator pear, suspicious of strangers, allergic
to modern conveniences, never suffers fools easily and refuses to even own a
telephone. But when life kicks her in the shins, she puts the kettle on and
goes to work applying Band-Aids and good, common horse sense. "Nothin'
shocks me any more," she declares to the whiners in her kitchen. "When you
been through the life I've had, there's nothing left you haven't seen." It's
thrilling to watch this versatile actress playing an 84-year-old trout with
a pluperfect Irish accent (Ms. Lansbury is half-Irish and lives part of the
year in County Cork), making beds, ironing linen and slicing bread like she
was excavating for the pyramids.

Quietly, reservedly and with the ultimate moment-by-moment naturalism of
real life, the script by Shane Connaughton strips away the defenses of a
house full of disparate characters, revealing the humanity beneath each one
until you feel like they're all old friends. Mr. Connaughton was
Oscar-nominated for his memorable screenplay, My Left Foot. He knows what
he's doing. There isn't a false note in his characters' actions, feelings or
dialogue. In the end, Granny's strength, resilience and indomitable spirit
rub off on the others. Lily and Helen peel away their resentments until they
reach the core of their mother-daughter problems, while Granny's acceptance
of the changing dynamics around her leads to some traditional surrenders of
her own. By the time everyone says goodbye, she's growing quite fond of her
new cell phone, and one of the gay guys is redecorating her house. You
laugh. You cry. You are enriched by the positive ways people who never
dreamed their lives would lead them to this predicament learn to cope and
join together and make their differences work. Unlike most of the first-run
movies that are made today, The Blackwater Lightship has a central,
life-affirming theme: We all make mistakes, but forgiveness is the thing
that defines love and leads to peace. What is a film this simultaneously
heartbreaking and life-affirming doing on television?
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27 April 2004 05:00  
  
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:00:00 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Programme CAIS Conference 2004 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884593.ae224824.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0404.txt]
  
Ir-D Programme CAIS Conference 2004
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Forwarded on behalf of...
Jean Talman
jean.talman[at]utoronto.ca
Subject: CAIS Conference 2004

Hello everyone

The preliminary programme for CAIS 2004, the Annual Conference of the
Canadian Association for Irish Studies to be held at Saint Mary's
University, Halifax, May 26-29 is now available on the CAIS website
http://www.irishstudies.ca Please note that this programme is subject to
change.
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27 April 2004 05:00  
  
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:00:00 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Research Studentship, Leeds, Media & Ireland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884593.400bF0e04825.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0404.txt]
  
Ir-D Research Studentship, Leeds, Media & Ireland
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

For information...

Please distribute...

P.O'S.


________________________________

Graduate Research Studentship

Proposals are invited for Ph.D study at the School of Cultural Studies,
Leeds Metropolitan University, Yorkshire, England under the following topic:

'Cinema, Television and/or New Media in or about Ireland'
Director of Studies: Dr Lance Pettitt

CLOSING DATE: 17 MAY 2004

The studentship carries a bursary of £9,000 plus fees equivalent to EU or
home student rate, plus opportunity for some part-time teaching. Conference
allowance also available. Studentships offered for up to three years subject
to satisfactory progress.

For further details and application, contact Debby Williams at
d.j.williams[at]leedsmet.ac.uk

[Source: TIMES HIGHER EDUCATION SUPPLEMENT, 23 April 2004, p.61]
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27 April 2004 05:00  
  
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:00:00 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D London Mayor Livingstone on Gypsy/Travellers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884593.246Fe4d4822.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0404.txt]
  
Ir-D London Mayor Livingstone on Gypsy/Travellers
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

I have received the following notes from a contact who attended a Seminar in
London yesterday on the needs of the Gypsy and Traveller communities. The
notes give a summary/outline of the speech by London Mayor Ken Livingstone -
which in turn gives a summary of the position of Roma/Gypsy/Travellers in
this country.

P.O'S.

- -----Original Message-----
Subject: Ken Livingstone Speech at Gypsy and Traveller seminar

Below is a record of Ken Livingstone's speech... Regards...
Mayors speech  Site provision for Londons Traveller and Gypsy community,
Monday 26 April 2004

Welcome delegates.

Acknowledge that the event is being co-hosted with the Traveller
Law Reform Coalition (TLRC) and thank both TLRC and the London Traveller and
Gypsy Unit (LTGU) for assisting with the organisation of the seminar.

The Gypsy and Traveller community is one of the most socially excluded
and discriminated against in the country, and is very under-represented at
all political levels.

Since the loss of the statutory duty on local authorities to
provide sites, there has been a reduction in the number of sites which has
entailed the forced use of unauthorised encampments; a policy emphasis on
crime, disorder and environmental damage rather than on needs and rights;
and the exacerbation of already fragile relations with local residents.7
During this period there has been a lack of systematic data collection
across key public services on the Gypsy and Traveller population. Although
some local authorities do continue to make counts, Gypsies and Travellers
are not included in national or local ethnic monitoring schemes. Therefore
there is no baseline data

The structural shortage of sites for Gypsies and Travellers, poses
serious consequences for their lives, especially access to services,
potentially even threatening the future of travelling.

Although Gypsies and Travellers are recognised as an ethnic minority
within the terms of the Race Relations Act 1976 and their communities have
rights under Human Rights legislation, racist and hostile attitudes are all
too common at all levels of society.

A prime example is the recent moral panic over potentially
large-scale immigration of Roma Gypsies from the 10 countries joining the EU
on 1 May 2004 when available evidence suggests that while there may be some
immigration, most Roma in Central Europe and the Baltic states are settled
and have strong ties to their local area.

Gypsies and Travellers are stereotyped as threatening,
untrustworthy and messy, a stereotype that is all too often reinforced in
media coverage which serves to further exacerbate negative public opinion.

Evidence from general studies shows a high number of racist incidents
against Gypsies and Travellers; low levels of trust in police handling of
Gypsies and Travellers cases; high sentencing patterns; high stop and search
patterns; high rate of deaths in custody of Irish Travellers and the
tendency to stereotype Gypsies and Travellers as criminals.

However it should be noted that there is good practice by the MPA which
now has a Gypsy and Traveller independent advisory group to monitor
incidents and comment on investigations.

There is a whole range of other areas where Gypsies and Travellers suffer
adversely ranging from education and health to housing and employment.

Access of Gypsies and Travellers to public services is poor, for three
main reasons:

1. Mobility and lack of stable address;

2. Discrimination;

3. Lack of interest and knowledge: e.g. Over 70% of councils with
unauthorised encampments in their area do not mention Gypsies and Travellers
in their homelessness strategies. Only about 30% of local authorities
nationally have a written Traveller accommodation policy and coverage of
Gypsies and Travellers is low in race equality strategies.

All this is true of London - although some boroughs do represent models
of good practice in tacking site provision and social exclusion issues.

The issue of unauthorised encampments serves to exacerbate the existing
socially excluded position of Gypsies and Travellers.

The lack of suitable permanent accommodation is key to the social
inclusion of Gypsies and Travellers in other areas such as health, education
and employment, yet there is much policy ignorance about the way of life,
needs, even the numbers, of Gypsies and Travellers, and this makes adequate
social provision unlikely.

Much more needs to be known about Gypsies and Travellers to assess the
type and extent of their needs. This is true of housing and site provision
as of all public services.

It is unacceptable that Gypsies and Travellers continue to suffer
prejudice and harassment. There is a danger that the continual moving on
of many Gypsies and Travellers, threatens their identity and a travelling
way of life.


Realistic assessments of need will only work in consultation with
Gypsies and Travellers.
What is to be done?

I am pleased to see that a number of agencies (CRE, IPPR and ODPM) are
taking up these issues and I welcome and support their work.

Government and statutory agencies need to openly recognise the acute
shortage of sites for Gypsies and Travellers in London and the key adverse
effect of this on the lives and access to public services of this already
very marginalised group of Londoners.

I support recommendations by major expert bodies in the field to
reinstate the statutory duty of local authorities to provide sites for
Gypsies and Travellers, and to coordinate site provision at national and
regional levels (through regional spatial strategies and regional housing
boards). Without a firm central lead, local authorities and their residents
hold back, fearing that their site provision initiatives will cause the
influx of Gypsies and Travellers to their area.

Supplementary support for a statutory duty is also necessary, for
example, support to local authorities for realistic central funding to
provide sites, especially transit sites which are resource intensive.

Proper investigation is needed into the reasons for the absence of
transit sites in London and the degree of demand for their provision in
future.

I will investigate the feasibility of developing London targets for the
provision of both permanent and transit sites for the next review of the
London Plan (2006).

I will ensure that the accommodation needs of Gypsies and Travellers are
considered for Unitary Development Plans of London Boroughs in the context
of the London Plan. (Following commitments made in London Plan, Policy
3.11).

I will continue to liaise with the Traveller Law Reform Coalition and
other London Gypsies and Travellers groups on issues of concern for Gypsies
and Travellers in London, and support consultation with Gypsy and Traveller
groups by all bodies concerned with relevant policy development.

I support the promotion of exchange of experience and good practice in
this field between boroughs, in association with the Association of London
Government and I call upon the ALG to work to promote better data recording
and monitoring by London Boroughs, on a consistent basis, of Gypsy and
Traveller access to public services.

Section 2 of the Local Government Act 2000, enables local authorities to
take positive steps to promote community well-being. This, when taken in
conjunction with the RRAA 2000 (which recognises Gypsies and Travellers as a
racial group), gives local authorities a positive power to do something to
tackle the social exclusion of the Gypsy and Traveller community. By
positively exploring the duties and powers of local authorities to promote
good community relations, diversity and equality, polices can actively be
developed to support that group and develop social cohesion in society.

The ALG has a responsibility to raises awareness, encourage, assist and
educate the boroughs to take forward these powers in respect of the issues
facing the Gypsy and Traveller community in Londons boroughs.

Todays seminar is an opportunity for the statutory agencies and Gypsies
and Travellers to discuss ways of addressing the serious problem of the lack
site provision for the Gypsy and Traveller community in London and to share
experience and good practice in this area.

Finally, I would like to bring your attention to Romafest, an event
taking place on Wednesday 18 August in Trafalgar Square, as part of
Trafalgar Squares summer programme. Romafest is a celebration of Roma
culture, music and dance featuring a range of London based artists providing
an uplifting celebration of one of the capitals communities.
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27 April 2004 05:00  
  
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:00:00 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D A LITHOGRAPH, THE MEN OF 98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884593.2e2Fe254823.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0404.txt]
  
Ir-D A LITHOGRAPH, THE MEN OF 98
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Like everyone I am besieged by family history queries - so much so that I
now have a Standard Response, which I have also put on irishdiaspora.net,
under LINKS....

But sometimes the query comes in a form that can actually be answered, with
little effort - and we must do our duty. Example, below...

P.O'S.


- ---Original Message (edited)

To: P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: LOOKING FOR A LITHOGRAPH OR PAINTING THE MEN OF 98


My grandfather Patrick Lynch served in the Boer War and raised his children
in Glasgow, Scotland. When he came to New York he brought a painting or a
lithograph about 24' x36". It was called the men of 98. In the center in a
shallow fortified position is Father Michael Murphy and about 5 men some
wounded and falling. Bordering the Picture are portraits of Heroes of the
time. Wolfe Tone, Robert Emmett and I can't remember who else but there were
about 10. I am trying to find a duplicate of it. I went to the web and
picked you. Perhaps you are familiar with it.

Yours truly
Tom O'D...


- ---MY REPLY
Subject: RE: LOOKING FOR A LITHOGRAPH OR PAINTING THE MEN OF 98

Tom,

What an interesting story...

Patrick Lynch's decision to buy and display this image was an interesting,
as we would say now, 'declaration of identity'...

Two thoughts...

1.
There were many such images made at the time of the centenary
commemorations, in the 1890s onwards - and your image sounds like one of
those. Though I cannot recall seeing one precisely as you describe.

If you look in Kevin Whelan, Fellowship of Freedom: The United Irishmen and
1798, Cork University Press, 1998, you will see how pictures of 1798 have
changed, and have been used, over time. Kevin Whelan has, on page 138, a
poster from 1908 which has the Leaders of the United Irishmen in little
portraits, but covering the entire poster, not placed around the edge - as
you describe. On page 126 are some lithographs, including one of Father
Murphy, taken from popular journals of the 1890s and 1900s...

2.
Now... I happen to know that the National Library of Ireland has begun to
catalogue its collection of images, graphics and pictures...

If you have full web access you can go to http://www.nli.ie/ And search the
catalogue yourself.

The catalogue takes a bit of negotiation... Do a search for Men 98 Murphy.

Looking there I see 2 items...

The men of '98, Wolfe Tone, Michael Dwyer, William Orr, Ld. Edward
Fitzgerald, A. Hamilton Rowan, Thomas A. Emmet, Death of Father Michael
Murphy at Arklow, 9th June 1798 [graphic] Dublin published by John Arigho,
Christchurch Place [between ca. 1901 and 1912] Subjects Tone, Theobald
Wolfe, 1763-1798

Description: 1 print chromolithograph image 72.2 x 44.5 cm., on sheet 77.9
x 52.2 cm.

The men of '98, Wolfe Tone, Michael Dwyer, William Orr, Ld. Edward
Fitzgerald, A. Hamilton Rowan, Thomas A. Emmet, Death of Father Michael
Murphy at Arklow, 9th June 1798 [graphic] Dublin published by John Arigho,
Christchurch Place [between ca. 1901 and 1912] Subjects Tone, Theobald
Wolfe, 1763-1798

Description: 1 print chromolithograph image 72.2 x 44.5 cm., on sheet 76 x
54.5 cm.

So, the NLI has 2 copies. There are links to the Image, but unfortunately
these do not work for me. You might want to chase the NLI about that, and
tell me how you get on.

But this chromolithograph sounds very like the one you describe, and seems
itself to be an example of the material outlined above... I do not know
much about the publisher John Arigho, but if you do a web search for that
name you will see that this publishing house published nationalist and
religious material...

Eg
http://db.museumsofmayo.com/WebX?50[at]171.YsB3jltH1Wq.0[at].ee86ec1

The NLI now says that it can provide slides or photographs of most of its
material - but I am just a poor scholar, and know nothing about that.

Patrick O'Sullivan


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Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit

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O'Sullivan Personal Fax 0044 (0) 709 236 9050

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Irish Diaspora Research Unit
Department of Social Sciences and Humanities University of Bradford Bradford
BD7 1DP Yorkshire England
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29 April 2004 05:00  
  
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:00:00 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D Book Announced, Kenny ed. Ireland and British Empire MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884593.A4E5ae54829.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG0404.txt]
  
Ir-D Book Announced, Kenny ed. Ireland and British Empire
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
News of a forthcoming book...

Kevin Kenny, ed., Ireland and the British Empire (Oxford University Press,
ISBN 0-19-925183-5).

This book will be published in the UK on May 27, to launch the new Oxford
History of the British Empire Companion Series. The series will feature a
range of thematic and regional titles building on the original five-volume
OHBE, with volumes on gender and the black experience also appearing this
summer.


Table of Contents:

Chapter 1: Ireland and the British Empire: An Introduction Kevin Kenny

Chapter 2: A Laboratory for Empire?: Early Modern Ireland and English
Imperialism Jane Ohlmeyer

Chapter 3: Ireland, Empire, and Union, 1690-1801 Thomas Bartlett

Chapter 4: The Irish in the Empire Kevin Kenny

Chapter 5: Ireland, the Union, and the Empire, 1800-1860 Alvin Jackson

Chapter 6: Fiction and Empire: The Irish Novel Vera Kreilkamp

Chapter 7: Ireland, the Empire, and the Commonwealth Deirdre McMahon

Chapter 8: Historiography Stephen Howe

Chapter 9: Postcolonial Ireland Joe Cleary


Here is an excerpt from Kevin Kenny's Preface...

EXTRACT BEGINS
PREFACE
This book presents a history of Ireland and the British Empire from the
origins of the Empire in the early modern era through its demise in the
contemporary period. The course of modern Irish history was largely
determined by the rise, expansion, and decline of the British Empire. And
the course of British imperial history, from the age of Atlantic expansion
to the age of decolonisation, was moulded in part by Irish experience. The
authors of this book seek to determine the shifting meanings of empire,
imperialism, and colonialism in Irish history over time. They examine each
phase of Ireland's relationship to the Empire: conquest and colonisation in
the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries; consolidation of Ascendancy rule in
the eighteenth century; formal integration under the Act of Union in the
period 1801-1921; and, thereafter, independence and the eventual withdrawal
of republican Ireland from the Commonwealth in 1948. In addition, several of
the contributors examine the participation of Irish people in the Empire
overseas, as merchants and migrants, as soldiers and administrators, and as
missionaries. The book also considers the ways in which British policies in
Ireland served as a laboratory for social, administrative, and
constitutional policies subsequently adopted elsewhere in the Empire, and
how Irish nationalism provided inspiration for independence movements in
other colonies.

The nine chapters of the book are arranged in a flexible chronological
framework with common themes interwoven throughout the narrative. After an
opening chapter that surveys the topic as a whole, the second chapter
examines English colonial expansion in Ireland in the early modern era, from
the early sixteenth century through the end of the seventeenth. The third
chapter considers Ireland's position and role in the British Empire from the
1690s through the Act of Union. The fourth chapter is devoted to the story
of the Irish in the Empire at large over the full period covered by the
book. Chapter 5 examines Ireland's, and then Northern Ireland's, colonial
status and imperial involvement from the Act of Union to the outbreak of the
'Troubles' in Northern Ireland in the 1960s, while the sixth chapter
considers the relationship between Irish fiction and Empire under the Union
and in its aftermath.. Chapter 7 offers a history of Irish politics and
nationalism in an imperial context, from the Home Rule movement of the 1880s
to Ireland's departure from the Commonwealth and subsequent reorientation
toward the European Union. The eighth chapter examines the writings of
historians and cultural critics on Ireland and the Empire. The final chapter
considers postcolonial Ireland, with particular reference to politics,
culture, and the construction of a new nation state.
EXTRACT ENDS
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Ir-D CFP Anglo-Irish Identities 1600-1800
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Forwarded on behalf of
David Valone (David.Valone[at]quinnipiac.edu)

Please distribute...

P.O'S.


- -----Original Message-----

From: "Valone, David Prof."
Subject: CFP: Anglo-Irish 1600-1800 Identities

Articles sought for book collection on Anglo-Irish Identities, 1600-1800.
Currently, we have initial expressions of interest in this project from two
publishers. We seek 20-25 page essays from historians and literary critics
to complement existing contributions. Submissions should explore the
complex relationships between native Irish, Anglo-Irish, and English
communities in Ireland, with a focus on the following topics, writers, or
periods:

Theories of race/ethnicity
Nationalism and colonialism
Anglo-Irish poetry
Anglo-Irish drama
George Berkeley
Edmund Burke
Maria Edgeworth
Sidney Owenson
1600-1700
1750-1800


Please send 200 word abstract, draft of essay, and short cv to both:
Jill Bradbury (jmbnpa[at]rit.edu) and David Valone
(David.Valone[at]quinnipiac.edu).

Deadline for submission: June 1. Final drafts of essays not required at
this time. Deadline for submission of final drafts will be Aug. 15.
If you have questions, contact either co-editor.

David Valone, CL-AC3
Director Of Cultural Programming
College of Liberal Arts
275 Mt. Carmel Ave.
Hamden, CT 06518
203-582-5269
203-582-3471(f)

Jill Bradbury
Assistant Professor,
NTID-RIT
Rochester, NY 14623
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Ir-D Article, Composition of founding population, Iceland
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

And following my recent posting on the Faroes - I thought this item about
Iceland of interest...

The last line...
Received: 2 April 2001; Accepted: 30 June 2003
Perhaps tells a story. Or is that delay normal in this field?

The name of the Irish researcher in this group, Barra Ó Donnabháin of UCC,
will be familiar to those who study the archaeology of medieval Ireland.

P.O'S.


American Journal of Physical Anthropology

Copyright © 2003 Wiley-Liss, Inc., A Wiley Company

Research Article

Composition of the founding population of Iceland: Biological distance and
morphological variation in early historic Atlantic Europe

Benedikt Hallgrímsson 1 *, Barra Ó Donnabháin 2, G. Bragi Walters 3, David
M.L. Cooper 4, Daníel Gubjartsson 3, Kari Stefánsson 3
1Department of Cell Biology and Anatomy, University of Calgary, Calgary,
Alberta T2T 4N1, Canada
2Department of Archeology, University College Cork, Cork, Ireland
3deCODE Genetics, Reykjavik 101, Iceland
4Department of Archeology, University of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta T2T 1N4,
Canada

email: Benedikt Hallgrímsson (bhallgri[at]ucalgary.ca)

*Correspondence to Benedikt Hallgrímsson, Department of Cell Biology and
Anatomy, University of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta T2T 4N1, Canada

Funded by:
NSERC; Grant Number: 238992-02
University of Calgary
Royal Irish Academy
deCODE Genetics

Keywords
nonmetric traits ? bioarcheology ? biodistance ? migration ? Medieval Europe
? Iceland ? Norway ? Ireland


Abstract
We examined the composition of the founding population of Iceland through
the study of morphological traits in skeletons from Iceland, Ireland,
Norway, and Greenland. This is the first study to address this issue from
the Settlement Period of Iceland and contemporary samples from Ireland. We
pose the following questions: 1) Was the founding population of Iceland of
mixed or homogeneous origin? 2) Is there evidence for a significant Irish
cohort in the founding population, as suggested in medieval Icelandic
literature? Analysis of biodistance revealed that both Settlement Age and
later samples from Iceland showed a greater degree of phenetic similarity to
contemporary Viking Age Norwegians than to samples obtained from early
medieval Ireland. Analysis of among-individual morphological variation
showed that the Settlement Age population of Iceland did not exhibit an
increase in variation in comparison to other populations in the sample,
suggesting a relatively homogenous origin. However, estimation of admixture
between the Irish and Norwegian populations indicated that 66% of the
Icelandic settlers were of Norwegian origin. Comparison of the Icelandic
samples to hybrid samples produced by resampling the Viking Age Norwegian
and early medieval Irish samples revealed that the Icelandic samples are
much closer to the Norwegian samples than expected, based on a 66:34 mixture
of Norwegian and Irish settlers. We conclude that the Settlement Age
population of Iceland was predominantly (60-90%) of Norwegian origin.
Although this population was relatively homogenous, our results do not
preclude significant contributions from Ireland as well as other sources not
represented in our analysis.

Am J Phys Anthropol, 2003. © 2003 Wiley-Liss, Inc.
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Ir-D Article, Origin of population of Faroe Islands
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Following up on my general interest in the archipelagos of the eastern
Atlantic... I have been reading up on the history of the Faroe Islands.
Especially interesting is the Faroes relationship with Copenhagen - compare
Ireland/London...

Anyway...

I came across this recent article, which chimes with earlier Ir-D
discussion...

P.O'S.


Human Genetics
Publisher: Springer-Verlag Heidelberg
ISSN: 0340-6717 (Paper) 1432-1203 (Online)
DOI: 10.1007/s00439-004-1117-7
Issue: Online First

Original Investigation
The origin of the isolated population of the Faroe Islands investigated
using Y chromosomal markers
Tove H. Jorgensen1 , Henriette N. Buttenschön1, August G. Wang2, Thomas D.
Als1, Anders D. Børglum3 and Henrik Ewald1

(1) Institute for Basic Psychiatric Research, Department of Psychiatric
Demography, Aarhus University Hospital, Skovagervej 2, 8240 Aarhus, Denmark
(2) HS Amager Hospital, Copenhagen University Hospital, Copenhagen, Denmark

(3) Institute of Human Genetics, Aarhus University, 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark

Received: 10 July 2003 Accepted: 17 February 2004 Published online: 9
April 2004

Abstract Historical, archaeological and linguistic sources suggest that the
ancestors of the present day population in the Faroe Islands may have their
origin in several different regions surrounding the North Atlantic Ocean. In
this study we use binary and microsatellite markers of the Y chromosome to
analyse genetic diversity in the Faroese population and to compare this with
the distribution of genotypes in the putative ancestral populations. Using a
combination of genetic distance measures, assignment and phylogenetic
analyses, we find a high degree of similarity between the Faroese Y
chromosomes and the Norwegian, Swedish and Icelandic Y chromosomes but also
some similarity with the Scottish and Irish Y chromosomes. Diversity
measures and estimates of effective population sizes also suggest that the
original gene pool of the settlers have been influenced by random genetic
drift, thus complicating direct comparisons with other populations. No
extensive immigration from Iceland to the Faroe Islands can be documented in
the historical record. We therefore hypothesise that the high degree of Y
chromosome similarity between the two populations arose because they were
colonised at approximately the same time by males originating from the same
regions of Scandinavia and, to a lesser extent, from the British Isles.
In respectful memory of Professor Henrik Ewald, 1958?2004

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Tove H. Jorgensen
Email: Tove.Hedegaard[at]sysbot.lu.se
Phone: +45-77892805
Fax: +45-77892899
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Ir-D TOC Eire-Ireland, Fall-Winter, 2003
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
Time to remind people that the full text of recent issues of Eire-Ireland
continues to be available at LookSmart Findarticles...

If you go to the Index of journals and click on the E section you can see
what is available

http://www.findarticles.com/PI/index.jhtml

I have pasted in below the Table of Contents of the latest issue... As will
be seen much of interest to us, and specifically much of interest to our
members in Canada...

Angela Bourke looks at Irish language writing about London, beginning with
Padraic O Conaire's short novel, Deoraiocht [Exile] (1910)... Paul Delaney
begins his study of D.P. Moran with acknowledgement of the work of Patrick
Maume, of course - showing, I think, how Patrick Maume has opened up study
of these figures. David A. Wilson helpfully explores the history of the
Fenians in Canada, and the events leading up to the assassination of Thomas
D'Arcy McGee.

Rhona Richman-Kenneally, on Grosse Ile, is in part writing about museums and
tourism, and is kinder than I am about tourist tat (though, on a recent trip
to the USA, I could not resist exploring an Irish tat shop - where I bought
myself a sign saying 'Parking for Irish Only'...). Margaret Kelleher's
article is based on research conducted during her year as John J. Burns
Visiting Scholar at Boston College - and I think it is an important
contribution to a general theory of anthologising, anthology-making being a
specific, but understudied, feature of the diasporic consciousness...

And so on...

Note that they seem to be trying to stop us saving whole articles. If you
wish to save an article from Findarticles to your hard disk the trick now is
to right click on Print Article and THEN Save Target As... But don't tell
anyone, or they'll stop up that hole too.

P.O'S.


Fall-Winter, 2003 issue of Eire-Ireland:Journal of Irish Studies

Wives, mothers, and citizens: the treatment of women in the 1935 nationality
and citizenship act.
by Mary E. Daly

Afterimage of the revolution: Kevin O'Higgins and the Irish revolution (1).
by Jason Knirck

D.P. Moran and the leader: writing an Irish Ireland through partition *.
by Paul Delaney

Landlord responses to the Irish Land War, 1879-87.
by L. Perry Curtis, Jr.

The Fenians in Montreal, 1862-68: invasion, intrigue, and assassination (1).
by David A. Wilson

John Mitchel and the rejection of the nineteenth century.
by James Quinn

The cabinet of Irish literature: a historical perspective on Irish
anthologies *.
by Margaret Kelleher

Legless in London: padraic o conaire and eamon a burc (1).
by Angela Bourke

Now you don't see it, now you do: situating the Irish in the material
culture of Grosse Ile.
by Rhona Richman-Kenneally

The decline and rebirth of "folk memory": remembering "the year of the
French" in the late twentieth century *.
by Guy Beiner

Editors' introduction.(Editorial)
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Ir-D Who is Bob Geldof?
  
Steven Mccabe
  
From: Steven Mccabe
Steve.Mccabe[at]uce.ac.uk
Subject: Who is Bob Geldof?

What, I wonder did those who have access to BBC make of the recent programme
on Sir Bob, one of Ireland's greatest exports? It was a strange mixture of
people's love/loathing of someone who appears to have contempt for most
things; most especially traditional Catholic Ireland. Perhaps Bob is
representative of modern Ireland. However, I felt saddened that his hatred
of the men in dark cloth ("The Black and Blue uniforms, police and priest,
It's a pity nothing has changed.." Banana Republic, circa 1980) was
something that seems to have defined his philosophy.

Am I being unfair to him?

Dr. Steven McCabe
University of Central England in Birmingham
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Ir-D Article, Intruder Alert
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
The intruders were visually distinctive, often with an emaciated appearance.
They represent a threat to the indigenous population, because of the
potential for behavioural, ecological and genetic interactions...

Yes, we're talking about escaped Irish farmed salmon in English and Welsh
rivers...

Keyword search takes you to odd places - this time to a sample issue of
Fisheries Management & Ecology...

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/

Fisheries Management & Ecology
Volume 10 Issue 6 Page 403 - December 2003
doi:10.1111/j.1365-2400.2003.00348.x


Management and Ecological Note
The incidence of escaped Irish farmed salmon in English and Welsh rivers
N. J. Milner & R. Evans

On 21 August 2001, a large escape (several thousand, exact numbers and sizes
are not available) of adult salmon occurred from the Glenarm Bay fish farm
in Northern Ireland, following storm damage to sea cages. Subsequently,
farmed salmon were found in rivers of Northwest England and North Wales
(Fig. 1). This note describes these observations, which mark the first
significant recorded incidence of such fish in these waters.
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Ir-D Article, Sexual citizenship in Belfast
  
Email Patrick O'Sullivan
  
From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
For information...

In the latest issue of...

Gender, Place and Culture: A Journal of Feminist Geography
Publisher: Carfax Publishing Company, part of the Taylor & Francis
Group
Issue: Volume 11, Number 1 / March 2004
Pages: 83 - 103


Sexual citizenship in Belfast, Northern Ireland

Rob Kitchin A1 and Karen Lysaght A2

A1 Department of Geography and NIRSA National University of Ireland Maynooth
County Kildare Ireland
A2 Centre for Social and Educational Research Dublin Institute of Technology
Dublin 6 Ireland

Abstract:

In this article we examine the contours and construction of sexual
citizenship in Belfast, Northern Ireland through in-depth interviews with 30
members of the GLBT community and a discursive analysis of discourses of
religion and nationalism. In the first half of the article we outline how
sexual citizenship was constructed in the Irish context from the
mid-nineteenth century onwards, arguing that a moral conservatism developed
as a result of religious reform and the interplay between Catholic and
Protestant churches, and the redefining of masculinity and femininity with
the rise of nationalism. In the second half of the article, we detail how
the Peace Process has offered new opportunities to challenge and destabilise
hegemonic discourses of sexual citizenship by transforming legislation and
policing, and encouraging inward investment and gentrification.
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Ir-D Who is Bob Geldof? 3
  
Bruce Stewart
  
From: "Bruce Stewart"
To:
Subject: Re: Ir-D Who is Bob Geldof?

Answering impulsively, yes, you are being unfair - and unfocused. Bob's view
is conditioned by how things were and his sense that the 'men in black'
(Joyce's 'black tyrannous lice') were not on the side of the human spirit
was generally a true one. You don't have to know much about the
deconstruction of clerical culture in Ireland in our times to know that. But
Bob's view was not precisely formed on a level pitch. He was unhappy at
Blackrock College, for good reason. It was a brutal place unless you were
instilled with the lower middle class ethos which it elevated to the plain
of a national(ist) consensus. Bob is part Belgian and therefore already at a
tangent to the Irish pietistic community of which the black men in Blackrock
were such an integral part. Those following the news will know that last
summer occurred a fatal beating-up outside the disco Annabels in which
Blackrock boys were the main assailants. It has been widely taken as a
symptom of the way that drink-fuelled middle class youth - the national
bourgeoisie - are actually living these days. Equally remote from the
procrustean ethos of Eamon de Valera and John Charles McQuaid - two
Blackrock men - and from the Boomtown Rats.

To invoke academic terms it requires both diachronic and synchronic grasp of
the situation to know what an attitude of this sort means in context. Has
anything changed? There were liberal and humane priests in the 1960s are
there are today. There were also ignorant brutes. If you read your Irish
Times this week, you will see that the retirement of O'Connell from the
Dublin See was attended by some mixed feelings. The Irish Times
correspondent makes the point that the ABishop thought himself sinned
against in blocking the route of victims of clerical abuse to legal
recompense. Not one member of the ordinary clergy supported them. The case
is quite different in Boston. So what are we to think and feel? And what,
tenderly speaking, has this to do with the sort of cultural wars that are
being conducted on the wider 'Irish diaspora' scene? Not always a lot. The
desiderata of American Irish Catholics are not always those of Irish
Catholics and for many decades they have been notably out of synch. Call it
a time lapse (about five years, I should think - one for every hour on the
world clock).

'Tis well I remember Irish-Americans enthusiastically collecting for Noraid
in California and New York at a time when murderous atrocities had alerted
ordinary Irish people to the horror of it all. Nowadays all that would be
seen as 'terror' in Mr Bush's sense of the term (a sense exclusive, that is,
of his starving and bombing tens of thousands into their grave in the Middle
East). Let me put it another way. It should not be difficult for anyone
involved in Irish studies to appreciate that the Irish priesthood has been
by and large a symptom of the colonial condition, not the cure. It is of
course entirely different in America. Whether the Irish Catholic Church can
reform is another matter but it is notable that the new archbishop has stood
up for individual conscience in relation to the abortion question in his
first public statement and if matters continue like that there will be room
for Bob to change his view. Till then, it is absurd to dictate to him from a
standpoint condignly innocent of the real texture of Irish life in the
period in question.

As to Banana Republic, those who rune can read. Let's all get back to this
after May Day and see where we stand. Today's issue is the Irish response to
Pax Americana and the New World Order. I know where I stand. It may be
convenient in the pocket book to be a client state of the USA but it is not
what I understand Robert Emmet to have meant in speaking of his epitaph nor
what Patrick Pearse meant in the Proclamation. Ireland is historically and
morally on the side of the victims of imperialism and neo-imperialism and so
she should be. Finally, on good clerics and bad clerics read Francis
MacManus The Fire in the Dust (1950). There is no new thing under the sun.


"Bruce Stewart"


- ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steven Mccabe
> Steve.Mccabe[at]uce.ac.uk
> Subject: Who is Bob Geldof?
>
> What, I wonder did those who have access to BBC make of the recent
programme
> on Sir Bob, one of Ireland's greatest exports? It was a strange
> mixture of people's love/loathing of someone who appears to have
> contempt for most things; most especially traditional Catholic
> Ireland. Perhaps Bob is representative of modern Ireland. However, I
> felt saddened that his hatred of the men in dark cloth ("The Black and
> Blue uniforms, police and priest, It's a pity nothing has changed.."
> Banana Republic, circa 1980) was something that seems to have defined his
philosophy.
>
> Am I being unfair to him?
>
> Dr. Steven McCabe
> University of Central England in Birmingham
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Ir-D Who is Bob Geldof? 2
  
Carmel McCaffrey
  
From: Carmel McCaffrey
Subject: Re: Ir-D Who is Bob Geldof?

Steven,
Maybe I can help although I did not see the programme I am familiar with
Geldof's opinions. Let me tell you he is not alone in his assessment of
Ireland in the mid to late twentieth century. I grew up at the same time as
he did in Dublin and really in my opinion the Church has only itself to
blame for the way in which it is now viewed by many of our generation.
These men in dark cloth were not the caring benign men of Hollywood
caricature - far from it. At that time in Ireland we had strict censorship
of reading material - most Irish writers were banned in Ireland. Those
rare books which did make it through were frequently denounced from the
altars as 'unwholesome' - it was the heroic efforts of O'Faolain that
allowed some decent reading material to be seen in the pages of The Bell.
The Bell managed to circumvent the censorship law but was constantly
denounced by the men in black and a school teacher would not be seen in
public with a copy of it for fear of his or her job. In rural areas it was
sold under the counter. It published articles from the notorious likes of
George Bernard Shaw, Sean O'Casey.
When Beckett won the Noble Prize in 1969 there was nothing of his in
publication in Ireland. The people of Ireland were not asking who was Bob
Geldof but who is Sam Beckett?

Contraception was banned by law as was all information on it. Divorce was
banned by the Constitution and the fight to have it re-instated brought out
the very worse of the men in black. I was directly involved in canvassing
for this and it was not a pretty sight to see priests roaring and thundering
against such a 'pagan' idea as to allow for civil divorce within the state.
The list is sad and endless of where the Catholic Church in Ireland went
wrong and alienated so many people.

Carmel


irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

>From: Steven Mccabe
>Steve.Mccabe[at]uce.ac.uk
>Subject: Who is Bob Geldof?
>
>What, I wonder did those who have access to BBC make of the recent
>programme on Sir Bob, one of Ireland's greatest exports? It was a
>strange mixture of people's love/loathing of someone who appears to
>have contempt for most things; most especially traditional Catholic
>Ireland. Perhaps Bob is representative of modern Ireland. However, I
>felt saddened that his hatred of the men in dark cloth ("The Black and
>Blue uniforms, police and priest, It's a pity nothing has changed.."
>Banana Republic, circa 1980) was something that seems to have defined his
philosophy.
>
>Am I being unfair to him?
>
>Dr. Steven McCabe
>University of Central England in Birmingham
>
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Ir-D Website: Irish Migrations Studies in Argentina
  
Subject: Website: Irish Migrations Studies in Argentina
From: "Murray, Edmundo"


Dear IAHS members, Ir-D members and friends,

We are happy to announce the posting of new contents to the website "Irish
Migrations Studies in South America" (www.irishargentine.org):

- - Article: "The First Irish Race Congress in South America" by Carolina
Barry

- - Lecture: "Was Admiral William Brown Admiral Someone Else?" by Michael
Geraghty

- - Extended Database: 1,113 Irish-Argentine Landowners

- - New Biographies: Tomas Kenny, John Lalor, John Walter Maguire, Michael
Mulhall, Camila O'Gorman, John Oughagan

The IAHS issues a reminder that the submission deadline is approaching for
the Irish Argentine Research Fund. Research projects from students of
migrations between Ireland and Latin America will be received up to
14 June 2004.

Specific questions can be directed to the Secretary (please allow until
11 May 2004):

Edmundo Murray
Irish Argentine Historical Society
Maison Rouge
1261 Burtigny Switzerland
+41 22 739 5049
edmundo.murray[at]irishargentine.org
www.irishargentine.org
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Ir-D Our Databases
  
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From Email Patrick O'Sullivan Email Patrick
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Historical Research
Volume 76 Issue 194 Page 557 - November 2003
doi:10.1111/1468-2281.00190

Notes and Documents
'Abandon Hibernicisation': priests, Ribbonmen and an Irish street fight in
the north-east of England in 1858*

Donald M. MacRaild

Abstract

This article seeks to contextualize a rare piece of evidence of the Catholic
Church's attempts to control nationalist political expression among Irish
migrants. The evidence, a letter from a priest to his bishop in Darlington,
was generated by an investigation of a street riot in Sunderland in 1858. A
detailed statement of such controlling influences is uncommon, even though
historians have occasionally uncovered fleeting examples that are similar in
nature. The discussion which follows seeks to fit this evidence, and its
immediate context, into a wider historiography concerning the interplay of
social Catholicism and the political involvement of Irish migrants. This
document portrays the English priest as a kind of politico-religious
policeman, and explains the lengths to which the Church was willing to go in
ensuring that strict adherence to Catholic practice was not affected by the
demands of clandestine political organizations. Although the events
discussed here are very specific, in both period and place, the article
seeks to contribute to an understanding of parish life where politics and
faith became entwined.
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