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19 July 2004 17:39  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:39:33 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
Query, Taoiseach/ Priomh Aire 2
  
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From: P.Maume[at]Queens-Belfast.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [IR-D] Query, Taoiseach/ Priomh Aire

From: Patrick Maume

I can think of one fairly obvious reason. "Priomh Aire/Prime Minister'
implies that the person acts on behalf of a superior authority, and might be
taken as meaning that that authority is the British monarch. "Taoiseach' is
the old Irish term for a chieftain and implies a link to the pre-conquest
past (as does the use of Tanaiste for the deputy head of government).

A good example of de Valera's concerns here is seen in his speech at the
inauguration of Douglas Hyde as president in the great hall of Dublin
castle, whose ceiling is decorated with a picture of the Irish
chieftains/kings submitting to Henry II.

Addressing Hyde, de Valera declared "In you we hail the successor of our
rightful princes, and after a long foreign usurpation take up our national
life again at the point where it was laid down." (The decision to have a
directly-elected President also reflects de Valera's concern to show that
Irish sovereignty/power resided in the people and not in the crown; I
believe Joe Duffy of Brian Lenihan fame points out that the Irish presidency
is unusual in an European context because normally presidents with such
limited powers are elected by parliament, and only presidents with
substantial powers are elected by the people.)

I believe Murray Hand wrote an article on the term in IRISH POLITICAL
STUDIES some years ago, but I haven't the reference.
Best wishes,
Patrick


> From: Brian Lambkin
> Brian.lambkin[at]uafp.co.uk]
> Subject: RE: [IR-D] Recommend Biography of de Valera 3
>
> Dear Paddy
> Speaking of Dev/deV, can anyone please help with how and why the term
> Taoiseach was preferred to Priomh Aire in the 1937 Constitution, and what
> role,if any, did Micheal O Griobhtha have, who was responsible for the
Irish
> language version?
>
> Brian Farrell, Chairman or Chief? - the role of Taoiseach in Irish
> Government (Dublin, Gill and Macmillan, 1971)does not go very deeply into
> the matter.
>
> many thanks
> Brian
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19 July 2004 20:00  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:00:48 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
Recommend Biography of de Valera 5
  
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From: john hearne
hearnejmp[at]hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [IR-D] Recommend Biography of de Valera 3

Dear Patrick
re the de Valera issue. As editor of the Waterford Archaeological &
Historical journal I have recently had necessity to look for permission to
use an old Irish Press photograph and contacted Dr Eamon de Valera for such
permission. He stressed the above spelling and that the de should be in
lower case.
John M hearne.


>From Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
>The name Eamon de Valera has caused me more trouble as an editor than
>any other. The first name he always spelled with one N, and the accent
>on the E - Irish copy editors still try to spell it with 2 Ns. For the de
in de
>Valera he used lower case, the Spanish, Cuban usage - English copy
>editors will automatically change that to De. In my own notes to copy
>editors I remind them of this - but I have received text back from copy
>editors with every de changed to De, I have changed these, and yet in
>the PROOFS there is De again...
>
>The nickname, Dev or deV, is also problematic since - by the nature of
>things - Dev often finds himself at the beginning of a sentence.
>
>Anyway...
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19 July 2004 22:10  
  
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:10:06 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
Recommend Biography of de Valera 6
  
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From: P.Maume[at]Queens-Belfast.AC.UK
Subject: [IR-D] Recommend Biography of de Valera 4

From: Patrick Maume

Re: Coogan - One point I should have mentioned is that Terry de Valera's
memoir of his father contains a really thorough dissection of Tim Pat
Coogan's claim that Eamon de Valera's parents were not married, which shows
(inter alia) that TPC selectively quotes from the founding charter of the
hospital where Dev was born to make it seem as if it was a charity hospital
intended exclusively for destitute and unmarried mothers when this was not
in fact the case. TPC also makes much of the fact that the birth
certificate does not explicitly say that the parents were married;
apparently New York law only mentions the parents' marital status on the
certificate if the registrar is specifically informed that they are not
married.

This I think gives a good indication of the degree of antipathy which TPC
shows towards Dev, and the degree to which he is prepared to go once he has
acquired an idee fixe. (I am not by the way suggesting deliberate bad faith
- just obsessive antipathy and tunnel-vision which keeps him from assessing
an idea critically once it ahs taken hold of him.)

By the way, some of you may have been at the ACIS conference where during a
discussion I mentioned a quote fom a particularly obnoxious FF backbencher
called Martin Corry, who compared the Cosgrave government to 'the n-g-r
squatting in a tail coat and calling himself an English gentleman". Some
question was raised about whether a statement by such a marginal figure
means anyting, but the reason I raised it was that it is linked to one of
Dev's early policies in government which attracted a good deal of attention
at the time but is never mentioned nowadays.
This was the so-called 'flight from the top hat'. On entering office the De
Valera government decided that ministers would no longer wear morning dress
(top hat, striped trousers, tail coat) at official functions. This was
intended to symbolise their credentials as men of the people, and implicitly
tar their predecessors as snobby West Britons. It was criticised by
opponents as hypocritical, because morning dress was internationally
accepted official wear. Indeed FF ministers wore it at official functions
abroad - and those who have seen films of de Valera attending offical
functions as president will notice that he usually wears a top hat, striped
trousers, and a tail coat...

It might be worth enquiring why this sort of detail with its resonances
about the terms on which politics were conducted at the tme never seems to
get into the biographies.

Similarly, the "dancing at the crossroads" speech has become hackneyed,
while one of de Valera's favourite images which he repeated regularly
throughout his career (the Irish people are compared to a servant in a big
house, who if he wishes to set up a little household of his own and escape
the kicks and cuffs of the young master must also be prepared to do without
some of the luxuries in the big house) never gets cited. Is this because
there is no recording of it (I don't know whether there is one or not) while
the maidens have been recorded for posterity?

Best wishes,
Patrick


> From: Peter Hart
> phart[at]mun.ca
> Subject: Re: [IR-D] Recommend Biography of de Valera 2
>
>
> I agree with Patrick - I'd say your best bet is Ryle Dwyer's recent
> `The Man and the Myths'. Coogan is fascinating as the case for the
> prosecution but is also disgusting in parts, not to mention misleading.
>
> Peter Hart
>
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20 July 2004 10:25  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:25:34 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
British identity controls in Dublin airport 6
  
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From: MacEinri, Piaras
p.maceinri[at]ucc.ie
Subject: Dublin airport, again

Dear All

For the sake of completeness, here is this morning's Irish Times version =
of
the Dublin Airport case. In the Orwellian world of Irish officialdom I =
would
caution against taking all of this report at face value; as may be noted
below, the Gardai 'are investigating claims by an Irish businessman', =
yet
they also state that there 'were no complaints from the public'. =
Evidently
there is a fine distinction between a 'claim' and a 'complaint'.=20

This issue may be the precursor to other changes on the European scene.
Thus, one of the reasons why Schengen would be problematic in Ireland is
because it provides for 'hot pursuit' rights for police forces. In =
Austria,
the Italian police have hot pursuit rights up to 10km into Austrian
territory, whereas the German police have hot pursuit rights over the =
entire
territory of Austria. I can't quite envisage the PSNI chasing illegal
migrants all over Munster, although in fairness the force is far more
accountable than the Gardai, who are mired in scandal at the moment.

My experience of the approach to civil liberties taken by the present
administration here, through working with asylum seekers and labour
migrants, is that there is a marked tendency to introduce practices of
dubious legality and wait for someone to challenge them, in the full
knowledge that individuals and cash-strapped NGOs cannot always do so. =
The
Garda National Immigration Bureau (GNIB), which is the agency at the =
heart
of this story, has been responsible for a number of quite inhumane =
decisions
in the recent past, such as the case where a woman receiving counselling
from the Mayo Rape Crisis Centre, as the victim of multiple rape in her
country of origin, was removed without warning one evening, with her
children, taken to Dublin, and deported overnight. The Irish Refugee =
Council
has taken the unprecedented step of issuing an open letter to the =
Minister
for Justice (text below) about this and other cases. Irish official =
policy
can only be described as barbaric.

Piaras

Gardai say UK officials have no powers here

Olivia Kelly
20/07/2004

British immigration officials have no powers to question passengers =
arriving
at Dublin airport the Garda National Immigration Bureau (GNIB) and the
Department of Justice have said.

Garda=ED said they would be investigating claims made by an Irish =
businessman
that he was questioned by British officials at Dublin Airport 10 days =
ago,
after he was referred to them by garda=ED.

A Sunday newspaper reported that the businessman was handed over to the
British officials when he failed to produce visual identification while
going through passport control after arriving on a Ryanair flight from
London.

He was subsequently let through passport control after he disputed their
authority to question him on Irish soil.

The GNIB has confirmed that the officials were present at the airport =
from
July 5th to 10th, however it said they were there purely in an advisory
capacity and not to ask questions.

A spokesman for the GNIB disputed a suggestion in the article that Irish
people are being randomly stopped at Dublin airport and are being =
subjected
to questioning by immigration officers from the UK.

"They were there purely as observers, to assist us on a consultative
capacity. If we had a problem we would consult with them, but they would
have no reason to talk to people and they were absolutely not randomly
questioning people," Det Sgt Simon O'Connor of the GNIB said.

The officials were at the airport as part of a joint Irish-British =
project
to assess the abuse of the common travel area by illegal immigrants. The
project which has been on-going for the last 12 months has involved =
garda=ED
observing the work of British immigration officials in Northern Ireland =
on
an intermittent basis. However, this is the first time British officials
have attended an airport in the State.

"We have been up to Belfast International Airport a few times and the =
docks
in Belfast and Derry, but it's just to observe and advise, we have no =
power
up there and they have no power down here," Det Sgt O'Connor said.

"What we have found out is that there are 12,000 to 13,000 abuses of the
common travel area each year. Illegal immigrants are coming in from the =
back
door because they have status in the UK."

It was too early to analyse the figures from Dublin airport he said,
however, it was likely that the British officials would return in the =
coming
months.

The project is due to run until the end of the year, he said.

Their visit had gone "very smoothly" and their were no complaints from =
the
public, he added.

A spokeswoman for the British Home Office said she understood that the =
Garda
had stopped a businessman at Dublin airport and had asked a British =
official
his opinion on the case, however, the official had not questioned the =
man.

Both countries were working closely to combat illegal immigration she =
said.

A spokesman for the Department of Justice said the co-operation was
necessary to control abuses of the common travel area.

He also confirmed that the British officials had no authority to =
question
people at Irish ports.


Open letter to:
Mr. Michael Mc Dowell,
Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform.
=20
19th July 2004
=20
=20
Dear Minister,
=20
I am writing to express the serious concern of the Irish Refugee Council
about the appalling insensitivity shown recently to a number of =
immigrants
and their children by certain officials of the State, as outlined below.
=20
You will be aware of the case of a multiple rape victim who was, until =
her
removal from the State earlier this month, a client of the Rape Crisis
Centre (RCC) in Mayo which had, exceptionally, written directly to you
indicating a belief that the woman was 'unable to travel even to England =
due
to health and psychological problems'. Despite this the woman was =
forced,
without having first had the opportunity to contact her RCC counsellor =
and
with less than an hour to prepare her young children for the unplanned =
trip,
to undertake a lengthy overnight drive to Dublin with strangers before =
being
taken off to the UK with great haste next morning. I also note that =
your
Department's one-sentence acknowledgement of the June letter from the =
RCC
was received after the woman had already been taken from her Mayo base.
=20
Other recent cases brought to our attention include one where infant =
twins
were admitted, without a full change of clothes, as 'social admissions' =
to a
Dublin hospital and held there for a period of days while their mother =
was
being held in prison apparently in the expectation that she would be
deported. After a court challenge by the woman's legal team, it is now
accepted that the woman was wrongfully arrested and she has been =
re-united
with her children.=20
=20
In this and in one other recent case that we know of, children of =
parents
wanted for deportation have been taken away in a Garda car from their =
homes
unaccompanied by any adult family members. Also, on a number of =
occasions as
many as 6 Garda=ED have been involved in post-dawn swoops, some knocking =
on
the wrong apartment doors and causing unnecessary fear in immigrant
communities while media recently highlighted the fact that some people
deported earlier this year had been deported illegally and have since =
had to
be facilitated to return to Ireland.
=20
You have been vigorous in your pursuit of alleged abuse by immigrants. =
In
the interest of justice, I would appeal to you to urgently and with =
equal
vigour pursue abusive treatment suffered by immigrants at the hands of =
State
officials. Some years prior to taking on your current Ministerial role, =
you
referred to the "indignity and contempt with which the Irish State was
treating" particular groups of asylum-seekers and you mentioned that =
"black
and coloured people are treated differently by our immigration service".
Given the lack of any independent monitoring of any of the work of
immigration officials - Ireland has in the recent past returned, =
unspent,
funds granted by the European Commission for one such element - and =
given
the fact that you have not set up the long-promised Refugee Advisory =
Board,
it is imperative that you as Minister ensure high standards by all =
officials
dealing with immigrants.=20
=20
I would also ask you to ensure that officials dealing with, for example,
traumatized women and vulnerable children have the necessary training to
ensure full conformity with legislation and international best practice.
Whether or not they are citizens of the country, are those who live =
here,
either temporarily or long-term, not entitled to be treated with a =
minimum
level of dignity - a level which, on the basis of my recent experience, =
has
not been reached in a number of instances?
=20
Is mise,

Peter O'Mahony
Chief Executive.
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5025  
20 July 2004 12:42  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:42:05 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
Death of Eoin McKiernan
  
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From: "Sarah Morgan"
To: ir-d[at]jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: death of Eoin McKiernan

This was reported in today's Irish Times: the full text of the article is
pasted in below.

Sarah Morgan.
-----------------------------------------------

US champion of Irish history and culture dies

The death has occurred in the United States of Dr Eoin McKiernan, a
patriarch of Irish Studies in the US who laid the ground for the explosion
of interest in Irish arts in recent years.

Founder of the Irish American Cultural Institute, based in Minneapolis, Dr
McKiernan was a fluent Irish speaker. In the 1960s he gained national
recognition when he scripted and hosted a series of 16 films and 53
half-hour TV programmes on Irish history, literature and culture. Born in
New York in 1915, McKiernan spent much of his childhood in Co Clare. He was
the first American inducted into the Royal Dublin Society in 265 years. Dr
McKiernan died on Sunday, aged 89.
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20 July 2004 12:45  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:45:32 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
British identity controls in Dublin airport 7
  
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From: "Sarah Morgan"
To: ir-d[at]jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: RE: [IR-D] British identity controls in Dublin airport 6

One aspect of this is the role of Ryanair, the budget airline with which the
businessman had travelled. It is a condition of passage on Ryanair flights
between Britain and Ireland that passengers carry an acceptable (to Ryanair)
form of valid photographic id. As far as I am aware, no other airline
operating between Britain and Ireland operates this rule. Ryanair are
extremely strict about this - if you cannot show acceptable id (at the
moment, this seems to be restricted to passports and drivers' licences) when
booking in, then you will not be allowed to travel to/from Ireland (and vice
versa). This condition means that the businessman in question would have had
photographic identification on him. Presumably, if other passengers were
stopped, they simply showed their id.

I have also been made to go through immigration control at London Stansted
airport because I had failed to keep the stub from my boarding card (again,
Ryanair) - the women (without any identification) who were collecting the
stubs refusing to accept my passport as demonstrating I had a right to enter
and suggesting they would get security back up if I didn't comply and go
through immigration control.

Sarah Morgan.

>From: MacEinri, Piaras
>p.maceinri[at]ucc.ie
>Subject: Dublin airport, again
>
>Dear All
>
>For the sake of completeness, here is this morning's Irish Times
>version of
>the Dublin Airport case. In the Orwellian world of Irish officialdom
>I would caution against taking all of this report at face value; as
>may be noted below, the Gardai 'are investigating claims by an Irish
>businessman', yet
>they also state that there 'were no complaints from the public'.
>Evidently
>there is a fine distinction between a 'claim' and a 'complaint'.
>
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20 July 2004 14:08  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:08:35 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
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From: P.Maume[at]Queens-Belfast.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [IR-D] British identity controls in Dublin airport 7

From: Patrick Maume

Easyjet (which is a "ticketless airline") also requires photo ID.

> From: "Sarah Morgan"
> To: ir-d[at]jiscmail.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: [IR-D] British identity controls in Dublin airport 6
>
> One aspect of this is the role of Ryanair, the budget airline with
> which the businessman had travelled. It is a condition of passage on
> Ryanair flights between Britain and Ireland that passengers carry an
> acceptable (to Ryanair) form of valid photographic id. As far as I am
> aware, no other airline operating between Britain and Ireland operates
> this rule. Ryanair are extremely strict about this - if you cannot
> show acceptable id (at the moment, this seems to be restricted to
> passports and drivers' licences) when booking in, then you will not be
> allowed to travel to/from Ireland (and vice versa). This condition
> means that the businessman in question would have had photographic
> identification on him. Presumably, if other passengers were stopped, they
simply showed their id.


----------------------
patrick maume
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20 July 2004 16:12  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:12:55 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
British identity controls in Dublin airport 9
  
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From: Kerby Miller
MillerK[at]missouri.edu
Subject: Re: [IR-D] British identity controls in Dublin airport 6

Dear Piaras et al,

Here's a different twist on such legal issues. Two bills, one in
the House of Representatives, one in the Senate, are slowly but surely (and
very quietly) moving through Congress, not to be reported to the floor for
"debate" (or in the mainstream media) until after the November
election--because the bills are supported by the leadership of both major
parties and each fears the election repercussions (in different ways).

The resultant bill will reinstate full military conscription (at
least for males), allegedly with no (non-medical) deferments.

According to one of the June WEEKLY GUARDIANS, which reported these
bills, a U.S.-Canadian treaty of a year or so ago has effectively sealed
that border to future draft resisters.

So, I'm curious: Could Ireland or any other EU country legally
provide asylum to U.S. citizens who refused conscription, as Sweden did
during the Vietnam War era?

What if the U.S. citizens also held passports and citizenship in one
of the EU countries, such as Ireland?

Kerby.
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20 July 2004 16:14  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:14:41 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
Too few priests in Ireland 5
  
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From: d.m.jackson
d.m.jackson[at]unn.ac.uk]
Subject: RE: [IR-D] Too few priests in Ireland 4

The shortage of candidates for the priesthood in Ireland has serious
implications for Catholicism in Britain as well. This may seem an obvious
point but a large proportion of priests in English, Scottish and Welsh RC
parishes were and still are Irish. Growing up in Northumberland I was
baptised by, received first holy communion from, and was catechised by 3
different Irishmen; and my current parish priest is from County Kildare.
There were only twelve candidates for the priesthood in England last year, a
significant number of course, made great play of on posters in church
porches - think Kitchener-1914 replaced with John Paul II.

Re: "another diaspora" I heard recently that some Polish priests have just
arrived to start work in Durham.

Dan Jackson

109 Squires Building
Northumbria University
Newcastle upon Tyne
NE1 8ST
0191 227 3306
07788590532


-----Original Message-----


From: prescot32[at]tiscali.co.uk

The priest at St Anthony's, Scotland Road, Liverpool, is Sri Lankan.

Frank Neal
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5030  
20 July 2004 16:15  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:15:40 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
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From: MacEinri, Piaras
p.maceinri[at]ucc.ie
Subject: RE: [IR-D] British identity controls in Dublin airport 8

As a matter of fact good old Aer Lingus has similar rules now, although in
my experience they are not always enforced. My last ticketless Aer Lingus
flight last week said the following:

The only forms of photo identification accepted for Irish domestic travel
and travel between Ireland and the UK are the following; 1. Valid passport
2. Drivers licence with photo 3. International student card 4. National ID
card 5. Bus pass with photo 6. Work ID with photo

I presume this is to stop people transferring cheap tickets to third parties
etc.

Piaras
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20 July 2004 16:35  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:35:26 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
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From: Richard Jensen
rjensen[at]uic.edu
Subject: Re: [IR-D] British identity controls in Dublin airport 9

My daughter works in Congress and assures me that the "secret" draft bill is
the subject of anxious phone calls every day.

It's a completely false rumor designed to spread fear.

Richard Jensen rjensen[at]uic.edu
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20 July 2004 18:03  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:03:24 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
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From: MacEinri, Piaras
p.maceinri[at]ucc.ie
Subject: RE: [IR-D] British identity controls in Dublin airport 9



Dear Kirby and everyone

The issue of conscription and related questions such as draft evasion or
desertion is an interesting one.

In the strict sense a person seeking to avoid concription and wishing to do
so by residing in a third country would need to apply for asylum in that
country. However, the 1951 Convention grounds for asylum (a well-founded
fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality,
membership in a particular social group, or political opinion) do not
mention the avoidance of conscription per se and not many countries have
traditionally regarded it as grounds (although Sweden did).

After that, the picture gets more complicated.

The 1997 Treaty of Amsterdam, which took effect on 1 May 1999, has a number
of provisions relating to asylum issues. Although the Treaty aimed to create
a common European asylum system based on the "unconditional and full
application of the Geneva Convention on Refugees", there is a very
interesting exclusion: that of persons seeking asylum from other Member
States.

Protocol (C) to the Treaty of Amsterdam says the following:

Given the level of protection of fundamental rights and freedoms by the
Member States of the European Union, Member States shall be regarded as
constituting safe countries of origin in respect of each other for all legal
and practical purposes in relation to asylum matters (my emphasis).
Accordingly, any application for asylum made by a national of a Member State
may be taken into consideration or declared admissible for processing by
another Member State only in the following cases:

(a) if the Member State of which the applicant is a national proceeds after
the entry into force of the Treaty of Amsterdam, availing itself of the
provisions of Article 15 of the Convention for the Protection of Human
Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, to take measures derogating in its
territory from its obligations under that Convention;

(b) if the procedure referred to in Article F.1(1) of the Treaty on European
Union has been initiated and until the Council takes a decision in respect
thereof;

(c) if the Council, acting on the basis of Article F.1(1) of the Treaty on
European Union, has determined, in respect of the Member State which the
applicant is a national, the existence of a serious and persistent breach by
that Member State of principles mentioned in Article F(1);

(d) if a Member State should so decide unilaterally in respect of the
application of a national of another Member State; in that case the Council
shall be immediately informed; the application shall be dealt with on the
basis of the presumption that it is manifestly unfounded without affecting
in any way, whatever the cases may be, the decision-making power of the
Member State.

In spite of the four qualifying clauses, the net effect of the above
protocol is virtually to outlaw any attempt by an EU citizen to seek asylum
in another EU Member State - any putative case would be treated as
'manifestly unfounded' because of the a priori assumption that all EU states
are 'safe third countries'. As far as I am aware one of the main factors
behind this rather odd provision was concern in Spain about Basque fighters,
or terrorists according to one's viewpoint, seeking refuge in France. It
raises troubling issues for the following reasons: (a) it assumes that equal
standards and practices of human rights apply in all Member States, which
manifestly is not the case e.g. the use of habeus corpus is not universal
(b) there are specific instances of outright discrimination and even
persection within EU countries especially the new ones e.g. Roma in the
Czech Republic, Russians in the Baltic countries, citizens from the former
Yugoslavia who have been declared stateless by Slovenia.

In practice, in the case of persons not wishing to serve a period of
conscription, there has long been a tendency in several European countries
to quietly ignore the problem. Apart from the obvious case of Vietnam draft
dodgers with Irish or other passports, I can think of Bretons who came to
Ireland rather than join the French Army and a friend of mine is a Belgian
living in Paris for more than 20 years, who cannot return home because he is
technically a deserter from the Belgian Army. It would appear that the legal
and administrative now machinery exists, under the asylum provisions of the
Treaty of Amsterdam (which also incorporates Schengen into EU law although
Ireland and the UK have a derogation from the main provisions) to allow
Member States to invoke their right to insist that nationals avoiding
military service be returned in the future. It will be interesting to see if
a tendency develops to insist on these provisions.

Even if attempts are made to obtain the return of an EU draft dodger to the
country of origin, presumably the principle that one cannot be extradited
for something which is not a crime in the receiving country would mean that
non-conscription countries such as Ireland and the UK would not be able to
act on such a request as it would be thrown out by the national courts. This
might raise the intriguing prospect of a referral of the Court of Justice.

How would this apply in the case of US citizens? I would have thought that
the same principle would surely extend to those wishing to avoid service in,
say, the US Army, that is, they could not easily be removed from
non-concription countries at least, although I do not know how they would
fare in other places. However, if such persons could not apply for asylum -
and I would think they could not - then only those who had the right of
residence, say, in Ireland by virtue of citizenship or an appropriate work
permit or work authorisation could avail of this opportunity. If for any
reason their residence permit was terminated or revoked they could
presumably be returned to their country of origin.

All of the above should be treated with care - I am not a lawyer!

Piaras
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5033  
20 July 2004 23:02  
  
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:02:14 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
ACIS Donnelly Prize, Miller & Colleagues,
  
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This is gossip...

But my source is good...

I hear that

Kerby A. Miller, Arnold Schrier, Bruce D. Boling, and David N. Doyle Irish
Immigrants in the Land of Canaan: Letters and Memoirs from Colonial and
Revolutionary America, 1675-1815

Oxford University Press, New York, 2003, ISBN 0-19-504513-0 hardback,
0-19-515489-4 paperback, 788 pages...

has been awarded the ACIS Donnelly Prize for books on History and the Social
Sciences.

Our congratulations to Kerby Miller, Arnold Schrier, Bruce Boling and David
Doyle. It is a most extraordinary work, and I think it must please all of
us that a work of Irish Diaspora Studies has been so recognised.

Angela McCarthy's review for the Irish-Diaspora List is on
www.irishdiaspora.net

I am currently reading the book, and hope to share my own notes with the
IR-D list at the end of the (northern hemisphere's) summer.

Again, our warm congratulations to Kerby and his colleagues...

Patrick O'Sullivan

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5034  
21 July 2004 08:11  
  
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:11:53 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
ACIS Donnelly Prize, Miller & Colleagues, 2
  
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From: William Mulligan Jr.
billmulligan[at]murray-ky.net
Subject: RE: [IR-D] ACIS Donnelly Prize, Miller & Colleagues, Irish
Immigrants in the Land of Canaan

The book awards were presented at the ACIS business meeting in Liverpool
- perhaps someone who attended it can share the full list. I took the
chance to tour Liverpool.

Congratulations and thanks to Marian Elliott and the staff at the Institute
for Irish Studies and the program committees of the co-sponsoring
organizations for a great conference.

It was also good to meet a number of Ir-D list members in person.

Bill

William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D.
Professor of History
Murray State University
Murray KY 42071-3341 USA
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5035  
21 July 2004 17:06  
  
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
British identity controls in Dublin airport 13
  
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This is a moderator intervention...

We are calling a halt to this thread, which originally had little connection
with the study of the Irish Diaspora, and now has even less...

Recent postings, plus some I have not distributed, really have to do with
tensions within US politics - and we can't see any point in further
demonstration of such tensions on the IR-D list.

For background see Jonathan Raban in today's Guardian...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1265652,00.html

I will be contacting individually IR-D members whose messages have been
rejected, asking for their patience and understanding.

Paddy

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Department of Social Sciences and Humanities
University of Bradford
Bradford BD7 1DP
Yorkshire
England
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5036  
22 July 2004 08:32  
  
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:32:02 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
Quality of life in Ireland survey
  
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From: MacEinri, Piaras
p.maceinri[at]ucc.ie
Subject: Quality of life in Ireland survey

Dear all,

Thanks to a radio interview I have just been asked to do, list members may
be interested in a survey just about to be publicised on perceptions of
quality of life in Ireland, north and south, including a section of the view
of 'non-nationals'.
http://www.amarach.com/study_rep_downloads/Diageo_Ireland_Quality_of_Life_Re
port_2004.pdf

You may need to type the entire address into your browser if it is broken up
in the text.

Readers should be aware that (as I shall be arguing) this is very much a
feel-good survey, sponsored by drinks company Diageo, and it does not attend
to the detailed quality of life indices one might expect in a more serious
survey (e.g. Environmental issues; Traffic, commuting times; Nearness of
schools, shops; Cultural diversity - theatres, cinemas etc; Health access;
Public services; Housing; Security and safety issues; Citizenship,
accountability, etc. tribunals!; Racism, xenophobia). However it does
provide some interesting insights into where we are today.

Piaras
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5037  
22 July 2004 14:34  
  
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:34:08 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
Research Fellowships in Irish Studies, QUB Belfast
  
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For information...

The link to the QUB 'jobs section', below, works - but thereafter the thing
is a pain.

Note that QUB is still looking for a Chair in Irish History, Closing Date:
06-08-2004, Ref: 04/L055B...

P.O'S.

________________________________

From: Irish Studies General Office
Subject: Research Fellowships in Irish Studies


Research Fellowships in Irish Studies

Please note that the research fellowships at the Institute of Irish Studies
will be advertised week commencing 26 July.

The advertisement will appear in the local and national press but you can
also link to the Queen's University jobs section from our website at:

www.qub.ac.uk/iis/for-researchers/jobs.htm

Please note that application materials are not available from the Institute
of Irish Studies.

best wishes
Catherine Boone
Administrator
Institute of Irish Studies
Queen's University Belfast
Belfast BT7 1NN
Northern Ireland
Tel: +44 (0) 28 9097 3386
E-mail: irish.studies[at]qub.ac.uk
Website: www.qub.ac.uk/iis/
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5038  
23 July 2004 08:29  
  
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:29:17 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
Obituary, Eoin McKiernan
  
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Subject: Eoin McKiernan

St. Paul Pioneer Press, http://www.twincities.com Posted on Wed, Jul. 21,
2004

McKiernan, founder of Irish American Cultural Institute, dies at 89

Associated Press


ST. PAUL - Eoin McKiernan, founder of the Irish American Cultural Institute
and recognized as one of the greatest Irish-Americans, has died of natural
causes at a St. Paul nursing home. He was 89.

McKiernan, who died Sunday, was credited with leading efforts to revive and
preserve the Irish culture and language in the United States. He wanted
people to see beyond the hoopla of St. Patrick's Day and enjoy Irish
folktales, artists, dances and history.

As Irish-Americans assimilated in the United States, McKiernan feared their
proud heritage was being lost, his son Kevin McKiernan said. That prompted
Eoin McKiernan to create dozens of public television programs celebrating
Irish artists and history. He also started the institute, organized tours to
Ireland and established a journal of Irish studies.

He wanted people "to know who they were. To understand that they weren't
acting in a vacuum, but that they came from somewhere," Kevin McKiernan
said.

Born in 1915 in New York City, McKiernan earned his bachelor's degree in
literature and classical languages from St. Joseph's College in New York, a
master's degree in psychology from the University of New Hampshire and his
doctorate from Penn State University.

He moved to St. Paul in 1960 to head the English department at the
University of St. Thomas.

While in St. Paul, he founded the Irish American Cultural Institute in 1962
as an educational, cultural and information resource.

Programs benefiting from his work send U.S. students to study and travel in
Ireland. In 1999, McKiernan was named by Irish America magazine as one of
the Greatest Irish-Americans of the century, along with President John F.
Kennedy and artist Georgia O'Keeffe.

"Eoin McKiernan's achievements in and contributions to the world of Irish
studies and Irish culture are immeasurable. Ireland and Irish America have
lost a great man," John P. Walsh, chairman of the Irish American Cultural
Institute, now based in New Jersey, said in a statement.

"He was a major pioneer in restoring a sense of Irish culture in the United
States," said Lawrence O'Shaughnessy, a St. Paul philanthropist who donated
$1 million to St. Thomas in 1997 for a Center of Irish Studies in honor of
McKiernan.

Eoin McKiernan was preceded in death by his wife, Jeannette. He is survived
by nine children, 34 grandchildren, and 17 great-grandchildren.

Visitation will be from 4 p.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday at the Willwerscheid
Funeral Home in St. Paul. The funeral will be at 10 a.m. Friday at the
Church of St. Luke in St. Paul.
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5039  
23 July 2004 09:43  
  
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:43:20 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
Obituary, Eoin McKiernan 2
  
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Subject: Eoin McKiernan

Published in the Pioneer Press (St. Paul) on 7/21/2004.

Eoin McKiernan

- McKiernan, Eoin On July 18, 2004. Founder of the Irish American Cultural
Institute, catalyst for the Irish renaissance in the US. Eoin was born in
1915 and raised on Manhattan Island, New York. He earned his BA in
literature and classical languages from St. Joseph's College, NY, his
Master's in Psychology from the University of New Hampshire, and his PhD in
English from Pennsylvania State University. He was the chair of the English
Department at the State University of NY at Geneseo before moving to St.
Paul in 1960 to chair the English department at the College of St. Thomas.
His parents' love of their homeland inspired him to study Irish culture as a
youth, earn a scholarship to study in Ireland as a young man, master the
Irish language, build relationships with national leaders there and
ultimately establish the Irish American Cultural Institute, an international
organization to preserve and promote the Irish culture. As president of the
IACI he awarded grants to Irish writers, composers, artists, and Irish
language endeavors; he introduced Irish-Americans to literary and historic
tours of Ireland, established a summer program there for American high
school students, launched a reforestation program for Ireland, brought Irish
writers, musicians, actors, educators, and diplomats each year to audiences
across the US, published Eire-Ireland, a scholarly journal of Irish studies,
and elevated the subject to a university level academic program. He also
established Irish Books and Media to bring Irish-published literature to US
readers, and Irish Educational Services, which supports Irish language
schools in Ireland. For his work he received many awards, including honorary
doctorates from the National University of Ireland, Marist College, and the
University of St. Thomas, and recognition as a top Irish-American of the
century. Eoin was a man of extraordinary patience, understanding, and
kindness. He was devoted to his family, and enriched our lives with love,
wisdom, and humor. He was a man of great faith; he had a profound compassion
for his brothers and sisters of the human family and was tireless in his
civic and charitable efforts on behalf of the poor and vulnerable. He was a
remarkable man and we will miss him dearly. Eoin was preceded in death by
his wife Jeannette; his mother Delia Nagle (Lahinch, Co. Clare, Ireland);
father Henry J. McKiernan (NYC); brothers Tom and Jim; sister Marge; and
granddaughter Gillisa Hetzler. He is survived by his nine children, Deirdre
(Joseph Hetzler), Kevin (Catherine Boyer), Brendan (Kathy), Nuala (Thomas
Rosensteel), Ethna, Fergus (Ann Schilling), Grania (Nicholas Doyle),
Gillisa, Liadan (William Lorsung),; 34 grandchildren; 17
great-grandchildren; sisters-in-law Helen and Eileen; and many nieces and
nephews. Visitation Thursday 4-8PM at WILLWERSCHEID FUNERAL HOME, 1167 Grand
Ave, St. Paul, 651-228-1006. Mass of Christian Burial 10AM Friday at CHURCH
OF ST. LUKE, 1079 Summit Ave., St. Paul. Memorials preferred to Irish
Educational Services, c/o American Bank, 1578 University Ave. W., St. Paul,
55104, or to Catholic Charities.
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5040  
23 July 2004 21:01  
  
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:01:47 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0407.txt]
  
Plans in the Fall/Autumn
  
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From: "William Mulligan Jr."
To:
Subject: [IR-D] Fall Plans

During the fall semester (late August through early December) I will be
teaching in a Murray State program at the University of Regensburg in
Bavaria. I would appreciate knowing about Diaspora and Irish conferences and
events in Europe during that time. Also, I would be very happy to discuss
my work on Irish copper miners at conferences, seminars, or other forums if
there is any interest.

Bill Mulligan

William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D.
Professor of History
Murray State University
Murray KY 42071-3341 USA
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