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11 October 2004 14:27  
  
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:27:20 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Article, J. M. Synge and the Pitfalls of National Consciousness
  
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For information...

This article is by Paul Murphy who is a lectuer in drama at Queens,
Belfast...

http://www.qub.ac.uk/lla/drama/Info/Staff/pm.htm

http://www.qub.ac.uk/iis/staff/associates/murphy.htm

P.O'S.


Theatre Research International, Volume 28, Issue 02



Theatre Research International (2003), 28:125-142 Cambridge University =
Press
Copyright =A9 International Federation for Theatre Research 2003
DOI 10.1017/S0307883303001019=20
________________________________

Article=09

J. M. Synge and the Pitfalls of National Consciousness
PAUL MURPHY=20

Abstract
An exploration of the repressed issues of class and gender which inhabit =
the
Irish national unconscious, also seeks to intervene in the
essentialism/constructionism debate concerning national identity which =
has
preoccupied post-colonial scholars and Irish studies academics over the =
last
few decades. The argument focuses on Synge's plays and culminates in an
examination of his magnum opus The Playboy of the Western World (1907),
while analysing Declan Kiberd's appropriation of Frantz Fanon's theories =
of
decolonization in his critique of Synge's play. The objective is not =
only to
trace the M=F6bius strip of national essence qua cultural construct, but =
also
to analyse the dialectic of desire which energizes cultural and =
political
identification.
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12 October 2004 08:04  
  
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:04:38 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Scots-Irish & Pop history 5
  
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From: Kerby Miller
MillerK[at]missouri.edu
Subject: Re: [IR-D] Scots-Irish & Pop history

Sorry for tardy reply. Been off lecturing in Australia and NZ.

But does this news item clarify what Jim's referring to?

Kerby

>POLL INDICATES 94% OF UNIONISM SUPPORTS BUSH
>2004-10-07 13:14:00 EST
>
>A poll taken by a Belfast newspaper indicates that Northern Ireland
>unionists support the re-election of President George W. Bush by a
>majority of 94% versus 6% support for Democratic candidate Senator John
>Kerry.
>


>From: Rogers, James
>JROGERS[at]stthomas.edu
>Subject: Scots-Irish & Pop history
>
>Did anybody else notice this? The cover story on today's (Oct 3)
>PARADE magazine (a newspaper supplement that is delivered to 36 million
>homes) is "Why You Need to Know the Scots-Irish " by James Webb. The
>author is an ex-marine, novelist, and former military official in the
>Reagan administration.
>
>The piece is redolent of 19th-century nativist literature. The closing
>paragraph, for instance, asserts that "as America rushes forward to yet
>another redefinition of itself ... my culture needs to reclaim itself -
>stop letting others define, mock and even use it - and in so doing
>regain its power to shape the direction of America." Webb essentially
>argues that rednecks - his word - are a) all Scots-Irish, and B) what
>made America great. Among the historical assertions he makes is a claim
>about "the Scots-Irish tradition of disregarding formal education"
>(which would probably have surprised someone like Woodrow Wilson, who's
>mentioned elsewhere in the article) and - this seems especially
>astonishing to me - an implication that Rosa Parks refused to move to
>the back of the bus because of her Scots-Irish great-grandfather.
>
>The article, if you're somehow beyond PARADE magazine's reach, will be
>posted on their web site archive on October 11
>Am I missing something, up here on the Northern plains? Is this
>introduction of Scots-Irishness into conservative discourse something
>that's been gaining steam?
>
>Jim Rogers
>
>PS: My grandma was from Stomping Ground, Kentucky, so I think I'm "clean."
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12 October 2004 08:07  
  
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:07:12 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
CFP, Territorial Mobilities: Control, Order, Counterstrategies,
  
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Stockholm
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Subject: (Fwd) CFP: 'Territorial Mobilities: Control, Order,

For information...
Cheers
Moira

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Subject: H-SAE: CFP: 'Territorial Mobilities: Control, Order,
Counterstrategies'. A proposed panel for World Congress =
of
the
International Institute of Sociology

From: Vida Bajc: vbajc[at]ssc.upenn.edu

CALL FOR PAPERS

"Territorial Mobilities: Control, Order, Counterstrategies"

A proposed panel for the 37th World Congress of the International =
Institute
of Sociology Stockholm, Sweden; July 5-9, 2005.

Deadline for abstract submission: November 30, 2004

Increasing global mobilities of people -- whether migrant workers, =
tourists,
refugees, undocumented, or business travelers -- do not necessarily =
imply
that territorial boundaries have been weakened.=20
For some types of mobilities, boundaries have been made invisible and =
their
movements easy. For other mobilities, boundaries are reinforced and
recreated. Out of this movement across territories and institutions that
endeavor to regulate it arise simultaneously practices of differential
control and ever new strategies to confront, negotiate, or avoid this
control. Theoretical and empirical papers from any perspective are =
welcome.
Those interested should send an abstract of no more than one page to

Vida Bajc: vbajc[at]ssc.upenn.edu


For more information on the World Congress see below
http://www.scasss.uu.se/IIS2005

ABOUT THE WORLD CONGRESS:
The Congress will allow social scientists from different parts of the =
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to exchange ideas and to establish long-term collaborative =
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The plenary and semi- plenary sessions will focus on the frontiers of
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while others will focus on the relationship between sociology and its
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Plenary and Semi-plenary speakers include: Andrew Abbott, Jeffrey C.
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Sobel, Yasemin Soysal, Wolfgang Streeck, Piotr Sztompka, Lars Udehn, =
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Wittrock.

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12 October 2004 14:24  
  
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:24:51 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Call for Papers: l'Annuaire Theatral on Irish Theatre
  
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Forwarded on behalf of

Dr. Jo=EBl Beddows, =09
Universite d=92Ottawa =09
beddows[at]catapulte.ca =09


Dr. Lisa Fitzpatrick,
Waterford Institute of Technology,
Waterford,
Ireland.=20
lfitzpatrick[at]wit.ie


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Subject: Call for Papers: l'Annuaire Theatral

Apologies for cross-postings

l'Annuaire Theatral are publishing a special issue on Irish theatre.
Submissions are solicited in either English or French.=20


The Irish Theatre : At the Crossroads of Traditions=20
Le Th=E9=E2tre irlandais : au carrefour des traditions
=20
(Voir aussi le texte fran=E7ais ci-apr=E8s.)

**Please note that submissions will be accepted in both English and =
French**

L=92Annuaire th=E9=E2tral is a peer-reviewed journal founded in 1985, =
and
published twice a year by the Centre de recherches en civilisation
canadienne-fran=E7aise at the University of Ottawa, and La Soci=E9t=E9 =
qu=E9b=E9coise
des =E9tudes th=E9=E2trales. It was dedicated from its founding to the =
theatrical
arts, broadly defined: that is, theatre, dance, circus, pageant, radio
drama, etc. In 2001, the journal began its collaboration with the CRCCF =
and
SQET, introducing a focus on French-Canadian culture and its =
interactions
with other world cultures. Now, in response to high-visibility =
productions
of Irish plays in translation in Paris and Montr=E9al, as well as the
emergence of a new generation of playwrights whose work tours
internationally, L=92Annuaire Th=E9=E2tral is devoting its Spring 2005 =
issue to
the contemporary Irish theatre.

Ireland is a meeting place between North American, Anglophone, and
continental European cultures. The Abbey Theatre, celebrating its =
centenary
this year, deliberately engaged with continental European models from =
its
inception, as its centenary programming of work from the New Europe =
recalls.
Synge=92s debt to Ibsen and Yeats=92s relationship with French symbolism =
are
well known, as is the influential presence of Irish playwrights such as
Sheridan, Farquhar, Goldsmith, Wilde and Shaw in the British canon. The
Irish theatre was born from a multiplicity of influences and aesthetics. =
Now
the flow of cultural and aesthetic influences seems to be reversed, with
Irish artists exploring the obsolescence of the nation-state and
nationalism, as well as the cultural and social implications of European
federalization and integration, replacing introspection with aesthetic
experimentation.=20
=20
This issue focuses on the Irish theatre since 1973, the year Ireland =
joined
the European Economic Community (EEC). Now ranked the most =
=93globalized=94
economy in the world, and enjoying the second highest income per capita =
in
the European Union, it can hardly be coincidence that a new generation =
of
playwrights emerged in a post-1973 context. The editors are particularly =
=96
though not exclusively =96 interested in papers that think outside =
axioms of
nationalist discourse or identity politics. Explorations of the =
connections
this new generation of playwrights is forging internationally with =
audiences
and practitioners, or articles that will help present a practice and a
theatrical institution for the first time to a French Canadian =
readership
with few reference points, are particularly welcome.=20

Possible topics include
=95 Uses of language / dialect / invented and poeticized languages
=95 The notion of canonicity in the contemporary Irish context
=95 Studies in reception (r=E9ception critique)=20
=95 Comparative analysis, particularly with francophone canons and
repertories
=95 Aesthetic links to be made between Irish and other contemporary
practices throughout the Western world, but in particular, French =
speaking
Canada
=95 Translations of Irish scripts into other languages
=95 Avant-garde productions of seminal texts from the Irish canon,
particularly those that open new perspectives on known plays

Articles will be accepted in both French and English.
Closing date for submissions is Friday, January 14th 2005. Articles may =
be
submitted by email or hard copies may be mailed the editors.
Style sheets are available by email from either of the editors.
Questions may be addressed and articles mailed to:=20

Dr. Jo=EBl Beddows, =09
Professeur adjoint, =09
Departement de th=E9=E2tre, =09
Universite d=92Ottawa =09
135, rue S=E9raphin-Marion =09
Ottawa (ON) K1N 7N5, Canada =09
beddows[at]catapulte.ca =09


Dr. Lisa Fitzpatrick,
Lecturer,
Dept. of Applied Arts,
Waterford Institute of Technology,
Waterford,
Ireland.=20
lfitzpatrick[at]wit.ie

________________________________________________
Le Th=E9=E2tre irlandais : au carrefour des traditions=20

En r=E9ponse =E0 l=92int=E9r=EAt port=E9 au corpus irlandais par les =
milieux th=E9=E2traux
parisien et montr=E9alais de m=EAme qu=92=E0 l=92importance croissante =
d=92une nouvelle
g=E9n=E9ration de dramaturges irlandais dans l=92=E9chiquier =
th=E9=E2tral occidental,
l=92Annuaire th=E9=E2tral d=E9sire rendre compte des nouvelles pratiques =
qui
marquent ce th=E9=E2tre et contribuent =E0 son rayonnement actuel. Ces =
d=E9marches
sont entreprises dans le but de combler, ne serait-ce que partiellement,
l=92absence marqu=E9e d=92analyse et de recherche de langue fran=E7aise =
portant sur
ledit corpus. =20

L=92Irlande est un lieu de rencontre des traditions anglophones et
nord-am=E9ricaines avec celles de l=92Europe. L=92Abbey Theatre, qui =
c=E9l=E8bre son
centenaire cette ann=E9e, s=92est ouvert aux mod=E8les de l=92Europe =
occidentale et
ce, d=E8s sa construction, r=E9sistant ainsi aux mod=E8les britanniques, =
davantage
connus. Les rapports entre les =9Cuvres de Synge et d=92Ibsen ainsi que =
ceux qui
lient l=92=9Cuvre de Yeats avec les pi=E8ces des symbolistes fran=E7ais =
et belges ne
sont que deux exemples de ce ph=E9nom=E8ne. Cependant, compte tenu de la
proximit=E9 g=E9ographique de la Grande-Bretagne et des liens unissant =
ces deux
cultures, sans oublier la pr=E9sence d=92un grand nombre de dramaturges
irlandais au sein m=EAme du canon britannique (Sheridan, Farquhar, =
Goldsmith,
Wilde, Shaw), il est possible d=92affirmer que le th=E9=E2tre irlandais =
est issu
de nombreuses influences esth=E9tiques. Aujourd=92hui, la port=E9e =
h=E9g=E9monique des
mod=E8les exog=E8nes semble toutefois se renverser.

Le fait que cette nouvelle g=E9n=E9ration de dramaturges ait =E9merg=E9 =
dans un
contexte post 1973, ann=E9e de l=92adh=E9sion de l=92Irlande =E0 la =
Communaut=E9
=E9conomique europ=E9enne (CEE), n=92est en rien le fruit du hasard.
Moins de cent ans apr=E8s que le pays se soit battu pour son =
ind=E9pendance, les
artistes irlandais semblent aujourd=92hui, de par leurs =9Cuvres, =
remettre en
question l=92obsolescence de l=92=C9tat-nation et du nationalisme.
Par le fait m=EAme, ils c=E8dent, ne serait-ce que symboliquement, la
souverainet=E9 culturelle au nom de la f=E9d=E9ralisation et de =
l=92int=E9gration
europ=E9enne.
L=92introspection fait ainsi place =E0 la recherche esth=E9tique et =E0
l=92exp=E9rimentation.=20

Les directeurs du dossier sont particuli=E8rement int=E9ress=E9s =E0 =
recevoir des
articles qui puisent leurs sujets hors de l=92axiome du discours =
nationaliste
et qui font fi de la probl=E9matique identitaire tout en explorant les =
liens
que cette nouvelle g=E9n=E9ration de dramaturges cr=E9e actuellement =
avec les
publics et praticiens d=92ailleurs dans le monde. Ils sont =E9galement
int=E9ress=E9s =E0 recevoir des articles qui pr=E9senteront des =
pratiques et une
institution th=E9=E2trale =E0 un lectorat francophone nord-am=E9ricain =
et ce, en
incluant des points d=92ancrage et de comparaison
tir=E9s des pratiques francophones du Canada. =20

Les sujets peuvent comprendre, sans toutefois y =EAtre limit=E9s, les =
=E9l=E9ments
suivants :
=95 L=92utilisation de la langue : les dialectes, les
langages invent=E9s, les langages po=E9tis=E9s;
=95 La constitution d=92un canon dit national et la notion
de =AB canonisation =BB des =9Cuvres dans le contexte actuel ;
=95 La r=E9ception critique des =9Cuvres ;
=95 Des =E9tudes faisant le lien entre la pratique
irlandaise contemporaine, la modernit=E9 et/ou la postmodernit=E9 ;
=95 Des =E9tudes comparatives entre les r=E9pertoires
d=92expression fran=E7aise et le corpus irlandais post
1973 ;
=95 Des =E9tudes comparatives entre la pratique actuelle =96
dramaturgique et autres =96 et des =9Cuvres appartenant au r=E9pertoire =
irlandais
pour =E9tablir, r=E9affirmer ou encore remettre en question les liens =
entre les
deux ;
=95 Des liens esth=E9tiques entre les pratiques
contemporaines du monde occidental =96 en particulier au Canada =
fran=E7ais =96 et
celles de l=92Irlande ;
=95 La traduction de textes irlandais ;
=95 Les productions =AB avant-gardistes =BB et
contemporaines de textes issus du r=E9pertoire irlandais, =
particuli=E8rement
celles qui en proposent de nouvelles lectures.=20

Les articles peuvent =EAtre r=E9dig=E9s en anglais ou en fran=E7ais. =
L=92Annuaire
th=E9=E2tral est une revue savante bi-annuelle publi=E9e par le Centre =
de
recherche en civilisation canadienne-fran=E7aise (CRCCF) de =
l=92Universit=E9
d=92Ottawa et La Soci=E9t=E9 qu=E9b=E9coise des =E9tudes th=E9=E2trales =
(SQET).

Date de tomb=E9e : le vendredi 14 janvier 2005. =20
Les articles peuvent =EAtre soumis par courriel ou en copie imprim=E9e.
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12 October 2004 14:25  
  
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:25:58 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Query, Irish nurses in Britain
  
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From: lryan[at]supanet.com
Subject: Re: Irish nurses in Britain


Hi all,
I am about to begin an oral history study of Irish nurses who migrated to
Britain since World War II. I have previously researched Irish women who
migrated in the inter-war period, most of whom were domestic servants and I
now want to shift my attention to later migrants and especially professional
female migrants many of whom are likely to have been nurses.

I am not aware of any similar studies on Irish nurses in Britain with the
exception of Mary Daniels 'Exile or Opportunity' (1993).

If anyone knows of other oral history studies please let me know or if
anyone knows any Irish women migrants who may have worked as nurses in
Britain I would be delighted to hear from them,

thanks,
Louise


Dr. Louise Ryan, Research Fellow, Social Policy Research Unit Middlesex
University, l.ryan[at]mdx.ac.uk lryan[at]supanet.com
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12 October 2004 16:22  
  
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:22:42 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Scots-Irish & Pop history 6
  
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From: Thomas J. Archdeacon
tjarchde[at]wisc.edu
Subject: RE: [IR-D] Scots-Irish & Pop history 2

Indeed, the Scotch-Irish have been "in the news" for more than several
decades. Marcus Lee Hansen, the pioneer student of immigration and
ethnicity, published in 1938 the essay from which the thesis of
"third-generation return" took its beginning. Hansen did not use the word
"return"; he wrote of third-generation "interest." He also did not portray
that interest as a permanent revival of ethnicity; he described it as a
historical moment during an overall movement of ethnic decline when what
remained of ethnic feeling might coincide with a group's acquisition of
acceptance in society and of enough education and wealth to have the time to
reconsider and appreciate their heritage before it completely disappeared.
That moment was the most auspicious time for evaluating a group's
contribution to the history of the United States. Which group did he choose
as his exemplar? -- the Scotch-Irish, who had been active in the founding of
historical societies and in the writing of histories.

Tom Archdeacon
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12 October 2004 16:55  
  
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:55:56 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Query, Irish nurses in Britain 2
  
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Louise,

The subject of Irish nurses in Britain had a pretty thorough exploration on
the Irish Diaspora list in the early part of 2003, and we did another tour
of the subject earlier this year.

All these IR-D messages are stored in our archive, available through the
Special Access bit of www.irishdiaspora.net

A search for 'nurses' turned up 20 entries, a search for 'nurse' turned up
36 entries. Many of those items are, of course, not directly relevant to
your query - but many are relevant.

'Nurses' have turned up occasionally in the article information we collect
and post to Ir-D. So all these will be in our archive.

Paddy

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Subject: [IR-D] Query, Irish nurses in Britain

From: lryan[at]supanet.com
Subject: Re: Irish nurses in Britain


Hi all,
I am about to begin an oral history study of Irish nurses who migrated to
Britain since World War II. I have previously researched Irish women who
migrated in the inter-war period, most of whom were domestic servants and I
now want to shift my attention to later migrants and especially professional
female migrants many of whom are likely to have been nurses.

I am not aware of any similar studies on Irish nurses in Britain with the
exception of Mary Daniels 'Exile or Opportunity' (1993).

If anyone knows of other oral history studies please let me know or if
anyone knows any Irish women migrants who may have worked as nurses in
Britain I would be delighted to hear from them,

thanks,
Louise


Dr. Louise Ryan, Research Fellow, Social Policy Research Unit Middlesex
University, l.ryan[at]mdx.ac.uk lryan[at]supanet.com
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12 October 2004 23:19  
  
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:19:24 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Scots-Irish & Pop history 7
  
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=20
From: Gary=20
crssrd03[at]yahoo.ca
Subject: Re: [IR-D] Scots-Irish & Pop history 5


Well that=12s certainly interesting; although of course there is a
specifically Northern Ireland (rather than Scotch-Irish) context we need =
to
be aware of here. For one thing, some unionists, rightly or wrongly,
probably still have a residual sense that the last Democratic US
administration (Clinton=12s) =13interfered=14 in Northern Ireland in a =
way that
was broadly pro-nationalist or -republican. For another, GWB=12s =13war =
on
terrorism=14 rhetoric (popularly seen as more uncompromising than John =
Kerry=12s
and =16 perhaps still more significantly =16 Tony Blair=12s) has a =
particular
resonance that might appeal to some unionists in Northern Ireland for =
local
reasons. During the March 2003 parliamentary debates in Britain on the =
Iraq
war, I remember the Revd. Ian Paisley endorsing the Blair government=12s
position on the war, but regretting that the British government had not
pursued a similar =13war on [republican] terrorism=14 in Northern =
Ireland. Lord
Tebbit, former Chair of the British Conservative party, is quoted as =
saying
something similar in the UK media today I note.
Apologies if I am pointing out the obvious

GkP

From: Kerby Miller
MillerK[at]missouri.edu
Subject: Re: [IR-D] Scots-Irish & Pop history
=09
Sorry for tardy reply. Been off lecturing in Australia and NZ.
=09
But does this news item clarify what Jim's referring to?
=09
Kerby
=09
>POLL INDICATES 94% OF UNIONISM SUPPORTS BUSH
>2004-10-07 13:14:00 EST
>
>A poll taken by a Belfast newspaper indicates that Northern Ireland
>unionists support the re-election of President George W. Bush by a
>majority of 94% versus 6% support for Democratic candidate Senator
John
>Kerry.
>
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13 October 2004 09:57  
  
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:57:28 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Query, 1920s Anti-Protestant Campaign in Cork
  
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From: Murray, Edmundo=20
Edmundo.Murray[at]wto.org
Subject: 1920s Anti-Protestant Campaign in Cork

A number of emigrants to South America in the 1920s - most of them
professionals and administrative clerks with Church of Ireland =
background -
came from county Cork. They found jobs in British-owned railways and
cold-storage plants in Argentine cities (Buenos Aires, Rosario, Bah=EDa
Blanca, Campana, C=F3rdoba), and integrated into Anglo-Argentine =
society.
Among some of their descendants it is family lore that their ancestors =
were
victims of anti-Protestant (or anti-British?) sectarianism and that that =
was
their major reason for emigrating.=20

1) Could anyone suggest bibliography about the anti-Protestant campaign =
in
Cork in the 1920s?

2) Are there any settlements of these emigrants in other parts of the =
world?

Thank you,

Edmundo Murray
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5210  
13 October 2004 10:45  
  
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:45:58 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
1920s Anti-Protestant Campaign in Cork 2
  
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The book that immediately springs to mind, and might be enough for =
immediate
purposes, is...

The I.R.A. and its Enemies - Violence and Community in Cork, 1916-1923
Peter Hart
Clarendon Press=20
0-19-820537-6, 1998
(Paperback) 0-19-820806-5, 1999

Review by Marc Mulholland in
The Voice of the Turtle, an online journal of left-wing politics and
culture...

http://voiceoftheturtle.org/show_article.php?aid=3D157

"Hart, through some amazing statistical reconstructions, shows also that =
the
elimination of so-called spies more often than not targeted undesirable
vagrants, British Army veterans and protestants, rather than the real
culprits (republican family members and priests). His portrayal of a
'settling of accounts' with a local, loyalist and protestant family =
uncovers
a shameful (and shaming) episode in the IRA's 'liberation war'..."

Also Reviewed in The American Historical Review, 104, 5, December 1999.
Someone might have access to that. And reviewed many other places...

The classic one of these local IRA studies is David Fitzpatrick, =
Politics
and Irish Life, 1913-21: Provincial Experience of War and Revolution
(Dublin, 1977) - which is also very much worth reading, but is not about
Cork.

See also books reviewed by Charles Townshend, History Today...
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1373/is_7_53/ai_104730290

See also article...
The war against the R.I.C., 1919-21 - Royal Irish Constabulary
Eire-Ireland:Journal of Irish Studies, Fall-Winter, 2002 by W.J. Lowe
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FKX/is_2002_Fall-Winter/ai_95=
598
124

See also
Kent Fedorowich, 'The problems of disbandment: the Royal Irish =
Constabulary
and imperial migration, 1918-29' Irish Historical Studires, XXX, 117, =
May
1996. This is a study of the relocation within the British Empire of
members of the Royal Irish Constabulary after Irish independence in =
1922.

Paddy

-----Original Message-----
From: Murray, Edmundo
Edmundo.Murray[at]wto.org
Subject: 1920s Anti-Protestant Campaign in Cork

A number of emigrants to South America in the 1920s - most of them
professionals and administrative clerks with Church of Ireland =
background -
came from county Cork. They found jobs in British-owned railways and
cold-storage plants in Argentine cities (Buenos Aires, Rosario, Bah=EDa
Blanca, Campana, C=F3rdoba), and integrated into Anglo-Argentine =
society.
Among some of their descendants it is family lore that their ancestors =
were
victims of anti-Protestant (or anti-British?) sectarianism and that that =
was
their major reason for emigrating.=20

1) Could anyone suggest bibliography about the anti-Protestant campaign =
in
Cork in the 1920s?

2) Are there any settlements of these emigrants in other parts of the =
world?

Thank you,

Edmundo Murray
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5211  
13 October 2004 10:47  
  
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:47:24 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Query, Irish nurses in Britain 3
  
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=20
From: j.trew[at]Queens-Belfast.AC.UK=20
Subject: Re: [IR-D] Query, Irish nurses in Britain 2

Dear Paddy,

In response to Louise Ryan's query about Irish nurses: for our oral =
history
study currently underway, Narratives of Migration & Return, Caitriona =
N=ED
Laoire of the Irish Centre for Migration Studies, UCC and I have been
conducting interviews with return migrants. Some of these have been =
nurses;
I conducted an interview only yesterday, in fact, with a nurse who =
worked in
England. I think that there may also a couple of interviews with Irish
nurses included in a previous study, Breaking the Silence, led by Breda =
Gray
and Piaras Mac Einr=ED, now available on the web as an oral archive at:=20
http://migration.ucc.ie/oralarchive/testing/breaking/index.html

Please contact me if interested.

Johanne Devlin Trew
Centre for Migration Studies
Queen's University Belfast
j.trew[at]qub.ac.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: [IR-D] Query, Irish nurses in Britain
>=20
> From: lryan[at]supanet.com
> Subject: Re: Irish nurses in Britain
>=20
>=20
> Hi all, I am about to begin an oral history study of Irish nurses who=20
> migrated to Britain since World War II. I have previously researched=20
> Irish women who migrated in the inter-war period, most of whom were=20
> domestic servants and I now want to shift my attention to later=20
> migrants and especially professional female migrants many of whom are=20
> likely to have been nurses.
>=20
> I am not aware of any similar studies on Irish nurses in Britain with=20
> the exception of Mary Daniels 'Exile or Opportunity' (1993).
>=20
> If anyone knows of other oral history studies please let me know or if =

> anyone knows any Irish women migrants who may have worked as nurses in =

> Britain I would be delighted to hear from them,
>=20
> thanks,
> Louise
>=20
>=20
> Dr. Louise Ryan, Research Fellow, Social Policy Research Unit=20
> Middlesex University, l.ryan[at]mdx.ac.uk lryan[at]supanet.com
>=20

--
Johanne Devlin Trew
Research Fellow
Centre for Migration Studies / School of History Queen's University =
Belfast
j.trew[at]qub.ac.uk
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5212  
13 October 2004 17:20  
  
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:20:10 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
1920s Anti-Protestant Campaign in Cork 3
  
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From: Oliver Marshall=20
oliver.marshall[at]brazilian-studies.oxford.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [IR-D] Query, 1920s Anti-Protestant Campaign in Cork

Edmundo,

A starting point might be to find out whether the ancestors of the =
specific
people you=92re referring to travelled to Argentina as employees of a =
British
company or went out independently and found work on arrival.

In the years immediately after World War I there was considerable
recruitment in the British Isles for positions in Latin America =96 so =
many
posts in British companies had been left as men returned to Britain to =
join
the armed forces. Nevertheless, if sent out on a contract arranged by a
company=92s British head office, the recruitment process could be =
painfully
slow. Surely those fleeing Ireland would be in a hurry to find a =
destination
and might not be able or willing to deal with the often lengthy =
bureaucratic
delays. And in any case, how likely is it that (Catholic) Argentina =
would
have been a particular country of choice for people fleeing Cork on the
basis of some kind of real or imagined anti-Protestant backlash?

Oliver Marshall

--------------

> From: Murray, Edmundo
> Edmundo.Murray[at]wto.org
> Subject: 1920s Anti-Protestant Campaign in Cork
>=20
> A number of emigrants to South America in the 1920s - most of them=20
> professionals and administrative clerks with Church of Ireland=20
> background - came from county Cork. They found jobs in British-owned=20
> railways and cold-storage plants in Argentine cities (Buenos Aires,=20
> Rosario, Bah=EDa Blanca, Campana, C=F3rdoba), and integrated into
Anglo-Argentine society.
> Among some of their descendants it is family lore that their ancestors =

> were victims of anti-Protestant (or anti-British?) sectarianism and=20
> that that was their major reason for emigrating.
>=20
> 1) Could anyone suggest bibliography about the anti-Protestant=20
> campaign in Cork in the 1920s?
>=20
> 2) Are there any settlements of these emigrants in other parts of the
world?
>=20
> Thank you,
>=20
> Edmundo Murray
>=20
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5213  
13 October 2004 20:37  
  
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:37:03 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Obituary, Pete McCarthy
  
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For information...

P.O'S.


Pete McCarthy

Writer with a rare gift for alternative theatre and comedy

Rebecca Stevens
Wednesday October 13, 2004
The Guardian

"If you travel in hope rather than with certain knowledge," wrote Pete
McCarthy, "something interesting usually happens." If you travelled with
Pete, who has died aged 52 of cancer, it always did.

A writer, performer, broadcaster and comedian whose work combined a love of
words with an interest in faraway places and having a drink with new people,
he was best known for his books McCarthy's Bar: A Journey Of Discovery In
The West Of Ireland (2000) and The Road To McCarthy (2002). He will also be
remembered for his contribution to alternative theatre and comedy.

Pete was born Peter Robinson in Warrington, Cheshire, to an Irish Catholic
mother and an English father. (He took his mother's maiden name when he
joined Equity after being told they already had a Peter Robinson on their
books.) The eldest of four children from a close family, he was taught by
Christian Brothers at West Park school, St Helen's - an education he
described as "the carrot and stick method, without the carrot".

Full text at...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,,1325757,00.html
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5214  
14 October 2004 12:26  
  
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:26:21 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Irish nurses in Britain 4
  
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From: "Sarah Morgan"
To: IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: RE: [IR-D] Query, Irish nurses in Britain

This is very good news, as there is a need for a serious piece of work on
Irish women's contribution to the NHS.

Bronwen Walter's work will provide relevant material; her two studies on
'Irish Women in London' and 'Irish Women in London - the Ealing dimension'
as well as her book on Irish women in the diaspora, 'Outsiders Inside'
contain relevant material. There is also a study of Irish nurses undertaken
as an undergraduate dissertation for an Irish Studies degree at London
Metropolitan University (formerly University of North London), available in
the Irish Studies Centre's archive. I can't remember the name of the
student, but it was a very good dissertation.

Sarah Morgan.


>From: lryan[at]supanet.com
>Subject: Re: Irish nurses in Britain
>
>
>Hi all,
>I am about to begin an oral history study of Irish nurses who migrated
>to Britain since World War II. I have previously researched Irish
>women who migrated in the inter-war period, most of whom were domestic
>servants and I now want to shift my attention to later migrants and
>especially professional female migrants many of whom are likely to have
>been nurses.
>
>I am not aware of any similar studies on Irish nurses in Britain with
>the exception of Mary Daniels 'Exile or Opportunity' (1993).
>
>If anyone knows of other oral history studies please let me know or if
>anyone knows any Irish women migrants who may have worked as nurses in
>Britain I would be delighted to hear from them,
>
>thanks,
>Louise
>
>
>Dr. Louise Ryan, Research Fellow, Social Policy Research Unit Middlesex
>University, l.ryan[at]mdx.ac.uk lryan[at]supanet.com
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5215  
14 October 2004 12:59  
  
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:59:35 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
CFP New Voices in Irish Criticism, Limerick, 2005
  
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Forwarded on behalf of
Paula Murphy and Cathy McGlynn,
MIC Irish Studies Centre,
University of Limerick

Please distribute widely...

P.O'S.

________________________________

From: Paula Murphy
Paula.Murphy[at]mic.ul.ie
Subject: New Voices 2005



We would be grateful if you could forward this call for papers to he IR-D
list.

Yours,

Paula Murphy and Cathy McGlynn,

MIC Irish Studies Centre,

University of Limerick.


CALL FOR PAPERS

New Voices in Irish Criticism, Ireland's premier conference for postgraduate
students in Irish studies, will be hosted by Mary Immaculate College,
University of Limerick from January 28th to the 30th 2005, in association
with the MIC Irish Studies Centre. Abstracts of no more than 150 words are
requested on the theme of this year's conference, 'Ireland in Theory'.

This interdisciplinary conference invites papers on any aspect of Irish
studies which incorporates a theoretical dimension. The growth of Irish
studies in recent years has facilitated an engagement with contemporary
postcolonial, feminist, post-structuralist and psychoanalytic theory. This
year's conference will focus on these aspects of Irish literature, culture
and history, calling on the forthcoming generation of Irish critics to
expand on the established work in these areas at the juncture of critical
theory and Irish studies.

The deadline for abstract submission is December 1st, 2004. Submissions
should be made by email to one of addresses below:

Paula Murphy
MIC Irish Studies Centre
University of Limerick
paula.murphy[at]mic.ul.ie

Cathy McGlynn
MIC Irish Studies Centre
University of Limerick
catherine.mcglynn[at]mic.ul.ie
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5216  
14 October 2004 18:27  
  
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:27:25 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
The Women on Ireland Research Network
  
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Forwarded on behalf of
Maria Power

P.O'S.


-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Power
maria.power[at]btinternet.com
Subject: The Women on Ireland Research Network

Apologies for cross-posting:

Hi all,
The Women on Ireland Research Network, which was established in London in
1997, is a network of women researchers/ writers/ teachers, who are working
on a diverse range of topics related to Ireland, Irishness and the Irish
Diaspora. We are a fairly eclectic group and include historians,
sociologists, geographers, literary theorists, etc. etc. We have organised
several conferences in Britain (London 1998, Liverpool 2002, London 2003)and
we are now planning a conference in Ireland (Limerick 2005).

We have members not only in Britain and Ireland but also in the USA, Canada
and across Europe. To enable us to communicate with each other more
efficiently we are now relaunching our e-mail discussion list with a new
address. This list will provide an opportunity for us to discuss research
interests, share resources and alert each other to forth coming events, new
publications, etc. Researching Irish issues outside of Ireland can be quite
an isolating experience and contact with those who share our interests can
be invaluable.

If you would like to subscribe to the list simply send an e-mail to the
address below:
m.c.power[at]liv.ac.uk with WOIRN list in the subject header.


Please pass this information on to anyone that you think may be interested.

Best wishes,
The Women on Ireland Research Network Committee.
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5217  
15 October 2004 13:57  
  
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:57:57 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
TOC Food and Foodways, Special Issue,
  
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Volume 12 Number 2/3 January 2004
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The most recent issue of the journal, Food and Foodways, is a special =
issue,
mostly based on the conference at Les Treilles last year...
23-28 May 2003, Les Treilles, France: Conference on =93Famine:
Interdisciplinary perspectives from the past and present=94

The Introduction to that special issue is by a Les Treilles regular, =
Cormac
=D3 Gr=E1da - whose name is given incorrectly on the Food & Foodways web =
site...

I remembered that Cormac and his colleagues at the Department of =
Economics,
University College Dublin, are very good at making research there =
visible
and available...
http://www.ucd.ie/economic/index.htm

On the basis, maybe, that if you do this you get cited...

And sure enough on that web site, freely available, is Cormac =D3 =
Gr=E1da's
Introduction, which places the special issue's articles in a context. =
Which
context includes much recent information about the study of the Irish
Famine...
http://www.ucd.ie/economic/workingpapers/WP04.09.pdf

P.O'S.


Food and Foodways
=09
Volume 12 Number 2/3 January 2004 =09
=09
Articles=09
=09
INTRODUCTION1
69
Cormac Gr=E1da
=09
BLACK MARKET, HYPERINFLATION, AND HUNGER: GREECE 1941-1944
81
Violetta Hionidou
=09
TOWARDS EXPLAINING SOVIET FAMINE OF 1931-3: POLITICAL AND NATURAL =
FACTORS IN
PERSPECTIVE1
107
S. Wheatcroft
=09
DIMENSIONS OF HUNGER IN WARTIME: CHUUK LAGOON, 1943-1945
137
Lin Poyer
=09
REVISITING SUBSISTENCE CRISES: THE CHARACTERISTICS OF DEMOGRAPHIC CRISES =
IN
FRANCE IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE 19TH CENTURY1
165
Jean-Michel Chevet; Cormac Gr=E1da
=09
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5218  
18 October 2004 10:21  
  
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:21:48 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Web Resource, Research Papers at UCD
  
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I have reminded myself that it is some time since I looked at the =
Working
Papers web site of Cormac =D3 Gr=E1da and his colleagues at the =
Department of
Economics, University College Dublin...

The web addresses are pasted in below... Plus some details of Working
Papers which caught my eye, and which I have downloaded - for free.

There is much here of interest to Irish Diaspora Studies. The work of
Cormac and colleagues on Irish banks is directly compsared with work on =
the
Emigrant Industrial Savings Bank, New York. There is much from Desmond
Norton, and his work on his Stewart and Kincaid Land Agent archive - =
which I
know will connect with the interests of many Irish Diaspora list =
members.
Certainly Desmond is exploring new dimensions in Irish nineteenth =
century
history...

That all being said, there is sometimes an impression of the economists =
and
the economic historians talking only to themselves - I think IR-D =
members
will note a number of times when a few more references would have =
connected
this work with the work of the wider scholarly community...

Anyway, all there to be mined...

P.O'S.


http://www.ucd.ie/economic/research.htm

http://www.ucd.ie/economic/workingpapers/workingpapers.htm


WP04/02 =20
Timothy W Guinnane, Carolyn M Moehling and Cormac =D3 Gr=E1da: "The =
Fertility
of the Irish in the United States in 1910 " January 2004

WP04/15 =09
Timothy W Guinnane, Desmond McCabe and Cormac =D3 Gr=E1da: "Agency And =
Famine
Relief: Enniskillen Workhouse During The Great Irish Famine" May 2004

WP03/15=20
Timothy W Guinnane, Desmond McCabe and Cormac =D3 Gr=E1da: "Agency and =
Famine
Relief: Enniskillen Workhouse during the Great Irish Famine" May 2003

WP03/16
Cormac =D3 Gr=E1da: "Financial Panic, Famine and Contagion: Ireland in =
the
1840s and 1850s" May 2003

WP02/08 Desmond Norton: "Stewart and Kincaid, Irish Land Agents in =
the
1840s" February 2002
WP02/08 Desmond Norton: "Stewart and Kincaid, Irish Land Agents in
the 1840s" February 2002
WP02/09 Desmond Norton: "Sexual Intemperance and Money on an Irish
Estate in the Eighteen Forties" March 2002
WP02/10 Desmond Norton: "Progress and Distress on the Stratford
Estate in Clare during the Eighteen Forties" March 2002
WP02/11 Desmond Norton: "On the Sherlocks, Jane Coleman and County
Kildare in the Eighteen Forties" March 2002

WP02/12 Cormac =D3 Gr=E1da and Eugene N White: "Who Panics during
Panics? Evidence from a Nineteenth Century Bank" March 2002

WP02/13 Desmond Norton: "Violence, Rent, Improvement and Distress
on the Frankfort Estates in Kilkenny during the Eighteen Forties" March
2002

WP02/14 Desmond Norton: "Distress and Benevolence on Gertrude
Fitzgerald=92s Limerick Estate in the 1840s" April 2002
WP02/15 Desmond Norton: "The Limerick Estate of Sergeant Warren
during the Great Irish Famine" April 2002
WP02/16 Tim Dyson and Cormac =D3 Gr=E1da: "Demography, Food Production
and Famine Risks in the 21st Century" July 2002
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5219  
18 October 2004 10:43  
  
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:43:59 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Web Resource, Sources for Irish History, Suffolk
  
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I have mentioned before the work of Anthony Breen, who has been looking at
material of Irish interest in the archives of East Anglia (the big bump,
north of London, on the east coast of England...) I am very pleased to be
able to pass on to the Irish Diaspora list this message, below, from Gwyn
Thomas, Senior Archivist, Suffolk Libraries and Heritage... Anthony Breen's
work in Suffolk is now made visible on this new web site...

I will, of course, make a link to this web site from www.irishdiaspora.net

I have emailed Gwyn Thomas and Anthony Breen, offering congratulations and
the thanks of the scholarly community.

P.O'S.


________________________________

From: Gwyn Thomas
Gwyn.Thomas[at]libher.suffolkcc.gov.uk
Subject: Irish web resource

The Suffolk Record Office has recently added some pages to its website on
sources in Suffolk relating to Ireland. If you can spare a moment they can
be found at http://www.suffolkcc.gov.uk/sro/Sources_For_Irish_History.html

The noted were researched and written by Anthony Breen, a local historian
and author, who has asked me to send you this information. He points out
that the items listed are not exhaustive but they do represent a
considerable body of material that has previously been unknown to
historians.

If you have responsibility for a web site and would like to create a link to
our pages we would be happy for you to do so. And if you have any comments
or queries please contact me.

Gwyn Thomas


R Gwyn Thomas, Senior Archivist, Suffolk Libraries and Heritage
Suffolk Record Office, 77 Raingate St, Bury St Edmunds IP33 2AR tel:
01284 352350; fax: 01284 352355
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5220  
18 October 2004 10:55  
  
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:55:36 +0100 Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan [IR-DLOG0410.txt]
  
Web Resource, Sources for Irish History, Suffolk 2
  
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Further reflections on the work of Anthony Breen, made visible on
http://www.suffolkcc.gov.uk/sro/Sources_For_Irish_History.html

Amongst the topics previously discussed with Anthony Breen were the ways in
which 1641 refugees appeared in the archives of England - and there are
examples on this Suffolk web site.

Also - this connects with the work of Desmond Norton, at UCD, on the Stewart
and Kincaid land agent archive (already mentioned on IR-D) and the work of
Alan Heesom, Durham, on the Lord Londonderry archives - Anthony and I had
discussed the finances of eighteenth nineteenth century English families who
held lands in Ireland. These English elite families work rather like
multi-national limited companies. To put the question simply, in which
directions did funds flow? When I put that question to Alan Heesom, some
time ago, he said that it was impossible to answer it - Londonderry's
finances were in such a mess. But as the estate papers become more visible
- through projects like this Suffolk web site - and as access to to the
estate papers becomes more possible, a further complication is made visible.
And my simple question becomes harder to answer. For it would seem that
PRONI, the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland, has been regularly
carting off the 'Irish' elements from within English estate papers...

P.O'S.


--
Patrick O'Sullivan
Head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit

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Personal Fax 0044 (0) 709 236 9050

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Irish Diaspora Net
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