5441 | 24 January 2005 12:46 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:46:09 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Assistance to family historian 3 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Assistance to family historian 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Herson, John J.D.Herson[at]livjm.ac.uk Dear Paddy, I can sympathise with the problems you get with genealogical queries, but would like report a more positive experience of family historians. As you may remember, I've got a web site designed to make contact with people who may be descended from Irish people who passed through or settled in Stafford:- http://cwis.livjm.ac.uk/soc/families People seeking free advice and help with their genealology have formed only a very small minority of contacts. Most of my respondents have been from people keen to pass on information to me, and the biggest problem I've had is with those giving me genealogical information that is completely unrelated to the Irish from Stafford. Many overseas respondents can't understand the difference between Staffordshire and Stafford town, so I've had lots of people telling me about their ancestors in Stoke, Wolverhampton, Walsall and West Bromwich. There's clearly lots of family history information out there which can be of value to people interested in the Irish diaspora. We just need to find ways of using it to build up a more sophisticated picture of the scattering of the Irish. John Herson | |
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5442 | 24 January 2005 14:21 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:21:41 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Assistance to family historian 4 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Assistance to family historian 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: William Mulligan Jr. billmulligan[at]murray-ky.net Subject: RE: [IR-D] Assistance to family historian 3 The genealogy "boom" has been underway in the US for quite some time and I think Paddy is correct to categorize it as an industry. There are professional researchers and increasingly more websites that charge fees for access to the data they have collected, rather than sharing it freely as many, to be fair, still do. There are still people looking to get all they can with as little effort as possible. Interestingly they plague professional genealogists, too. I occasionally get an email - can you send me everything you have on my grandfather Patrick XXX who was a copper miner? But, I also had a request a few years ago, from a young man doing an MA thesis, essentially for all my research notes. It would save him a lot of time, he said, and he even offered me a copy of his thesis when it was done. So, it is not only genealogists who ask odd things. When I was director of the Clarke Historical Library (1983-89) genealogists were our largest user group and many of them required a great deal of assistance. That has all changed, however, and most are quite good at research and very persistent. Increasingly also they are moving from a narrow understanding of genealogy as "collecting ancestors" to a broader concern with the context of their ancestors' lives - as the inquiry to Kerby that began this reflects. My own work on Irish miners in Michigan has benefited enormously from sharing with genealogists, especially those interested in the Beara Peninsula where a large set of mines were located. There is a great deal of information about the lives of these ordinary people that did not make it into a record or a record that has survived. Specific mentions of places of origin in Ireland, for example, are rare in the records I have worked with. That is very useful information for me that genealogists often have. I approach working with genealogists, amateur and especially professional, just as I do any other colleague - you share what you can with people who are likely to share something in return. You help as much as you can without taking too much time away from your own work - hence I agree that Paddy's "standard response" is a very valid reply for him and the list -- and a lot of other people. I also agree with John Herson that what genealogists have collected can be very useful and valuable in understanding the Diaspora, especially at the community level. It has been in my own work. Our task - as in using any other body of evidence - is to weigh it and use it effectively. I think we can do that and still avoid those who are looking for free help or who are not interested in a two-way exchange. Bill William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D. Professor of History Murray State University Murray KY 42071-3341 USA | |
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5443 | 24 January 2005 14:22 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:22:48 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Picture of 'Wild Geese' | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Picture of 'Wild Geese' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Bradley j.m.bradley[at]stir.ac.uk Patrick Can you (or anyone else) point me towards a visual image of the 'Wild Geese' that might be used to signafy the Irish diaspora? Thanks Joe | |
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5444 | 24 January 2005 14:30 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:30:29 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
World centre for Irish and Scottish Studies, Aberdeen | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: World centre for Irish and Scottish Studies, Aberdeen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Email Patrick O'Sullivan We have just received this Press Release from the University of = Aberdeen... Our sincere congratulations to Tom Devine and his colleagues. This = award from the AHRB comes after many years of hard work. There was a strong diaspora component to the original research bid, and it will be = interesting to see how this develops. And - judging from the outside - it seems to = me that Tom Devine and his colleagues have, by reaching out, done much to = keep alive within the island of Ireland the notions of Irish Studies and = Diaspora Studies... Patrick O'Sullivan ________________________________ University of Aberdeen Media Releases 24 January 2005 =09 World centre for Irish and Scottish Studies receives unprecedented =A31.25million The University of Aberdeen=92s pioneering AHRB Centre for Irish and = Scottish Studies is set to receive over =A31million to allow it to develop as a world-class centre of research and teaching excellence. The AHRB (Arts = and Humanities Research Board) will be awarding the money to the = University=92s dedicated Centre for Irish and Scottish Studies as part of the second = phase of the AHRB=92s Research Centres Scheme. In the first round of the = awards in 2000, The AHRB Centre for Irish and Scottish Studies at the University = was one of almost 150 applications received from throughout the UK. Only 10 centres were finally established. Phase Two takes the project to a = higher level, designated as world-class, and will enable the Aberdeen centre to fulfil its aim of taking the lead role in national and international = levels of Irish and Scottish studies research.=20 Professor Tom Devine, OBE, FBA, Glucksman Research Professor of Irish = and Scottish Studies, and Director of the AHRB Centre for Irish and Scottish Studies at the University of Aberdeen, collaborated with academic = colleagues at Queen=92s University Belfast, Trinity College Dublin, and the = University of Liverpool, to successfully secure the financial award.=20 The associated universities will be responsible for maintaining = effective relationships between their affiliated staff and the Aberdeen centre, = and to act as the Centre=92s co-advisers. Professor Devine said: =93This is = stunning news not simply for Aberdeen and its partners but for Arts and = Humanities in Scotland in general. The unprecedented level of new funding will have a transformational effect on the Centre=92s future research activities and postgraduate training.=20 =93Equally, however, the AHRB decision, taken only after thorough = consultation with distinguished international assessors, demonstrates that the = Humanities in the Scottish universities, like colleagues in science and medicine, = can achieve world-class research status which brings great honour and = prestige to our country.=94=20 Professor Geoffrey Crossick, Chief Executive of the AHRB added: =93Our Research Centres scheme is designed to provide a focus for research in strategically important areas, and across a range of universities and disciplines. =93This will be the largest single award that the AHRB has = ever made, and it will enable the AHRB Centre for Irish and Scottish Studies = to develop its leading international position in what is a critically = important field of research=94.=20 The University of Aberdeen recently announced the recruitment of an international line-up of leading academics in its drive to develop = further as a centre of excellence in Celtic and Irish-Scottish Studies. The move marks an enhanced commitment by the University to expand these areas. = The College of Arts & Social Sciences is also planning four new appointments across the College, in Irish-Scottish studies, to work with its internationally famous Research Institute for Irish and Scottish Studies (RIISS) and the AHRB Centre of which it is an important part. This will further enhance its activities in Celtic Studies and strengthen Irish-Scottish Studies as a core theme across the College.=20 The Arts and Humanities Research Board funds postgraduate training and research in the arts and humanities, from archaeology and English = literature to design and dance. AHRB Research Centres provide a focus for = collaborative research in areas of strategic importance. Although the social and = natural sciences have long had access to funding to establish centres of = research expertise, it was not until the launch of the AHRB=92s Research Centres = Scheme that researchers in the arts and humanities have benefited from a = similar opportunity. An offer of an award will be issued to the University of Aberdeen shortly for the phase two centre. Under the terms of the 2004 Higher Education Act, the AHRB will become a fully-fledged research = council in April 2005.=20 ENDS =20 | |
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5445 | 24 January 2005 16:42 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:42:03 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Assistance to family historian 5 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Assistance to family historian 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Hart phart[at]mun.ca Subject: Re: [IR-D] Assistance to family historian re. pardon - British-held prisoners were all released after the Treaty was signed, in late 1921 - except those who committed crimes in Britain itself or in NI during the truce, I believe. Once the civil war began in June 1922, there was a swift offer of amnesty and release for those captured who swore not to bear arms vs. the state again. many took this, and many went back on it. Despite Ernest Hemingway's reports from Chicago, and Harry Boland's plans in New York, it was a very rare occurance for Americans to fight in Ireland. If he was a returned emigrant who was known in a particular area of course, that would make it more likely. And now, over to Patrick Maume! Peter Hart >From: Kerby Miller >MillerK[at]missouri.edu >Cc: Sean Kane >Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! > >Could Peter Hart, Patrick Maume, or others on the List please help Mr. >Kane identify sources that may help him locate the information he seeks? > >Many thanks, > >Kerby Miller > > >>Please bear with me for a moment. I am doing my families genealogy and >>am looking for information in regards to my great-grandfather, John >>Green Kane. In 1910 he lived in Philadelphia, and sometime between >>then, I assume around 1914-1916 and 1924 he went to Ireland to help in >>Ireland's fight for independence from England. My guess is he was a >>member of the IRA. He was imprisoned there but eventually, my father >>tells me he was given a pardon around 1922 and returned to the US. >>Was there a widespread pardon around that time? >>And secondly, any idea where I can find prisoner lists or ship logs >>showing him departing or arriving in Ireland? >>One other thing, can you offer any guidance on other avenues to >>approach to find him during that time? >> >>Bear with me as I embarrasingly do not know much of the history of Ireland. >> >>Thank you for your anticipated cooperation, >> >>Sincerely, >> >>Sean M. Kane > | |
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5446 | 24 January 2005 16:43 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:43:06 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Assistance to family historian 6 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Assistance to family historian 6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rogers, James JROGERS[at]stthomas.edu Subject: RE: [IR-D] Assistance to family historian 4 I have a strong impression that the whole field of genealogy is maturing; lately, I almost never a encounter that once-familiar type, the genealogical trophy-hunter who wants to prove he's descended from Brian Boru. One of the things that come through very clearly, when you talk persons who have done serious genealogical research is that names are not really the backbone of genealogical research. We think that it is a process that eventuates in a long list of names, but, more important, genealogical enquiry also produces a long list of places. In fact, place functions as the engine that drives the whole project: It is by knowing where the ancestors lived that researchers know where to look next. At the Midwest ACIS in 2002, we had why I thought was a luminous roundtable on the topic of "What do genealogy and Irish Studies have to say to one another?" with Jim Doan, Dan Tobin, Ed O'Day and myself . I dutifully arranged to record it, but then discovered I had forgotten to plug in the tape recorder. Posterity's loss... Jim Rogers | |
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5447 | 24 January 2005 16:43 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:43:53 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Picture of 'Wild Geese' 2 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Picture of 'Wild Geese' 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 From: gmacloughlin[at]ciudad.com.ar=20 Subject: RE:[IR-D] Picture of 'Wild Geese' Dear Paddy:=20 Regarding Joe Bradley=B4s query: On the occassion of the 1st. Irish Genealogical conference, which took = place at Trinity College, Dublin, 1991 (which I attended and lectured), there = was printed in all the programmes a motto of the Wild Geese. Perhaps this = could be useful. Best regards, Guillermo MacLoughlin Buenos Aires, Argentina | |
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5448 | 24 January 2005 16:44 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:44:33 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Picture of 'Wild Geese' 3 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Picture of 'Wild Geese' 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian McGinn bmcginn2[at]earthlink.net Subject: RE: [IR-D] Picture of 'Wild Geese' How about "Remember Fontenoy!", reproduced on page 299 of _A Military History of Ireland_, eds. Thomas Bartlett and Keith Jeffery (Cambridge UP, 1996). Brian McGinn bmcginn2[at]earthlink.net | |
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5449 | 24 January 2005 16:45 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:45:21 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Irish on US TV 3 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Irish on US TV 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Kerby Miller MillerK[at]missouri.edu Subject: Re: [IR-D] Irish on US TV There was an old "Have Gun, Will Travel" (Richard Boone as "Paladin"), episode that featured, somewhat sympathetically, an elderly Fenian trying to launch one last attack across the Canadian border. Of course, Boone has to shoot him, because he won't listen to "reason," and, with his last breath he says, "Erin go bragh," which Boone then translates, accurately, with a heartfelt sigh. Must have been late 1950s or very early 1960s. I've never seen re-runs of that particular Western show, although it was very popular for a number of years. Perhaps that's because, like other Western shows at the time ("The Outlaws" [first year only], "The Dakotas"), it was often too creative and ambiguous in its "moral messages," and hence today less suitable than, say, "Bonanza" or even "Gunsmoke" for today's "family-values" oriented and "law-and-order" sensibilities. KM | |
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5450 | 24 January 2005 20:20 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:20:21 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Journals, Irish Studies and Diaspora Studies 6 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Journals, Irish Studies and Diaspora Studies 6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Anthony Mcnicholas amcnich[at]blueyonder.co.uk Subject: Re: [IR-D] Journals, Irish Studies and Diaspora Studies 3 In reply to Bill Mulligan on diaspora newspapers, I would have said that when the Pilot became a diocesan journal it became a church rather than a diaspora paper. A few years ago i did research into the irish press in britain, that is the secular irish press in britain. therefore i did not include the Universe, (1860) which is still going, because it addressed its mainly irish readers as catholics, rather than as irishmen and women. Of course these definitions can be difficult-you have to look at who owned a journal, who controlled it editorially, who wrote for it, who read it, all of which are subject to change and in the context of the C19th press difficult to establish. Incidentally, I just received a copy of The Galtee Boy, congratulations to Patrick Maume, his mother and Mary Casey. A fascinating account, that makes one wonder what else is lying around waiting to be published. I would also agree with them that accounts like Caseys do undeline the fact that RV Comerford has not had the last word on fenians and fenianism. The risk of penal servitude hardly counts as a pastime, even for the most adventurous. anthony mcnicholas ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Mulligan Jr." > To: > Subject: RE: Southern Cross > > Guillermo MacLoughlin's post on the Southern Cross raises a question. > > He refers to it as the oldest Irish newspaper of the Diaspora. It > certainly has been published for a long time, but as I do the math The > Pilot, now the official paper of the archdiocese of Boston, would > appear to be older. The Pilot certainly has an important place in the > Diaspora as well. Does its status as a diocesan paper change its > status? I don't know if it is worth debating what is the "first" > newspaper of the Diaspora - although it might be worth discussing what > constitutes a Diaspora publication and when and how they began in > different areas of the Diaspora. > > Bill Mulligan > | |
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5451 | 24 January 2005 20:21 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:21:41 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
On Eagle's Wing, on TV, Northern Ireland | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: On Eagle's Wing, on TV, Northern Ireland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian Lambkin Brian.lambkin[at]uafp.co.uk Subject: RE: [IR-D] Irish on US TV 3 Paddy, The mention of TV reminded of the following which may be of interest for Burns Night: 'On Eagle's Wing" - a documentary on the Scots-Irish of America - will be transmitted on Tuesday 25 January at 8 pm on BBC 2 Northern Ireland. Paddy Fitzgerald acted as consultant and makes an appearance. Also, On Eagle's Wing - the STAGE Show is provisionally scheduled for 6.15 pm - 8 pm on Saturday 29 January - also on BBC 2 Northern Ireland. best wishes Brian Brian Lambkin (Dr) Director Centre for Migration Studies Ulster-American Folk Park Mellon Road, Castletown, Omagh, Co. Tyrone Northern Ireland BT78 5QY 0044 28 82256315 www.qub.ac.uk/cms and www.folkpark.com fax: 0044 28 82242241 | |
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5452 | 24 January 2005 20:22 |
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:22:36 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Journals, Irish Studies and Diaspora Studies 7 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Journals, Irish Studies and Diaspora Studies 7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ruth-Ann M. Harris harrisrd[at]bc.edu Subject: Re: [IR-D] Journals, Irish Studies and Diaspora Studies 3 The Pilot was purchased by the Archdiocese in 1916. I know they dropped the "Missing Friends" ads fairly soon after that which may or may not have been a result of embarrassment over the family breakup implied in so many of the ads. Prior to the 1870s the Pilot was a wonderfully supportive paper for the Irish community. Ruth-Ann Harris Ruth-Ann M. Harris Adjunct Professor of History and Irish Studies, Boston College Phone: 617-522-4361; weekends and summer, 603-938-2660. | |
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5453 | 25 January 2005 10:00 |
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:00:01 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Picture of 'Wild Geese' 4 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Picture of 'Wild Geese' 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Thomas J. Archdeacon" Subject: Wild Geese Liam Ferrie's online enterprise, Irish Emigrant, has a lovely wild goose logo (http://www.emigrant.ie/). Liam has strong and understandable proprietary interests in his logo, but it might give you an inspiration, or, if it's suitable for your purposes, you might be able to reach some kind of an arrangement with him. Tom Archdeacon | |
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5454 | 25 January 2005 10:00 |
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:00:47 -0000
Reply-To: Patrick O'Sullivan | |
Picture of 'Wild Geese' 5 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Picture of 'Wild Geese' 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: William Mulligan Jr. billmulligan[at]murray-ky.net Subject: RE: [IR-D] Picture of 'Wild Geese' There's the fountain in Cork in the Park next to the Archives Institute between South Main and Grand Parade -- can't remember the name. I have a slide or picture somewhere. I'll find it and send. William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D. Professor of History Murray State University Murray KY 42071-3341 USA -----Original Message----- From: Joe Bradley j.m.bradley[at]stir.ac.uk Patrick Can you (or anyone else) point me towards a visual image of the 'Wild Geese' that might be used to signafy the Irish diaspora? Thanks Joe | |
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5455 | 25 January 2005 10:03 |
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:03:33 -0000
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Book Review, Alan Ford on Toby Barnard, | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Book Review, Alan Ford on Toby Barnard, New Anatomy of Ireland: the Irish Protestants 1649-1770 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Email Patrick O'Sullivan For information... P.O'S. -----Original Message----- Subject: REV: Ford on Barnard, _New Anatomy of Ireland...1649-1770_ H-NET BOOK REVIEW Published by H-Albion[at]h-net.msu.edu (January 2005) Toby Barnard. _A New Anatomy of Ireland: the Irish Protestants, 1649-1770_. New Haven and London: Yale University Press, 2003. xvi + 489 pp. Illustrations, notes, index. $45.00 (cloth), ISBN 0-300-09669-0; $30.00 (paper), ISBN 0-300-10114-7. Reviewed for H-Albion by Alan Ford, Department of Theology, University of Nottingham Dissecting Ireland The recent death of Anthony Sampson, that journalist who was much more than a journalist, points to an obvious modern analogy for Toby Barnard's book. Sampson wrote a series of anatomies of Britain in which he held a mirror to the nature and changing attitudes in the latter half of the twentieth century. Barnard has done the same for late seventeenth and eighteenth century Ireland, offering us a detailed study of the structures of protestant society. In Sampson's case there was the excitement of learning how the society you were living in actually worked; Barnard offers a similar frisson, except here it is that much more elusive country that we inhabit as historians--the past. What he provides is a dissection of the whole of Irish Protestant society, arranged by class and employment, from the lord lieutenant down to the landless laborer. His ambition is simple and modest, but at the same time enormous, "to discover what it was like for Protestants to live in Ireland" (p. iv) or, as he puts it later, "to be more precise ... about the briefly dominant Protestant population of Ireland ... how they made an English Ireland work and how they worked to make money" (p. 330). This clearly constitutes a major challenge. Anthony Sampson or William Petty (the real source of Barnard's title) at least lived in the societies they were anatomizing and had developed the insider's feel for how they worked. Barnard has first to overcome the deficiencies of the sources: both the general problem of early modern records with their inevitable bias towards the literate and the upper classes, and the particular defects of Irish sources--thanks to the bombardment of the Irish public record office in 1922. This he triumphantly does, by exploiting his long immersion in the Irish archives, his deep knowledge of Ireland in general and Munster in particular, and his particular gift for gaining access to manuscripts in private hands, enabling him to recover a remarkable depth of primary material. This task of discovery and accumulation by itself is an heroic achievement. But his success as a researcher merely increases the scale of the second challenge--how to organize the mass of sources he has accumulated. Obviously, as befits an anatomy, he eschews narrative history and instead resorts to a thematic approach, dissecting society from the top to the bottom, starting with the peerage and the "people of quality," going on to examine the clergy and the professions, office holders, soldiers and sailors, land agents and the middle station, concluding with an analysis of "the lower people." The result is undoubtedly a tour de force, offering a reconstruction in microcosm of the various elements of Irish Protestant government and people which gives the reader a real insight into how late seventeenth- and eighteenth-century Ireland actually functioned. Barnard is not interested in modish theory. There is no anthropological analysis, there are no Weberian turns, no examination of the structural transformation of the public sphere. This is a resolutely pragmatic work, concerned with describing and counting, accumulating detail in order to illustrate _wie es eigentlich gewesen war_. Many of the pleasures of the book are almost incidental--Irish society had more than its fair share of wastrels, scoundrels, and eccentrics, and Barnard's pointillist approach gives us numerous examples. Equally, his grasp of the primary sources enable some of the hitherto hidden figures of Irish history to emerge from their previous obscurity, such as the wonderfully named servant, Cupid Gallop, or the Limerick agent, Nicholas Peacock. The portrait of the latter is a perfect example of the strengths of this book. Based upon a hitherto unused diary in the National Library of Ireland, Barnard offers us a portrait of the multifarious activities of this middleman and self-taught agricultural expert as he helped to run the estates of two prominent local families, showing how he interacted with central and local authority, accumulated news and gossip, related to Limerick society, served the Church of Ireland whilst preserving good relations with the local Catholic priest, developed his intellectual interests, bought and consumed, and catered for his growing family. Behind the weight of sheer detail important themes do emerge--how society in Ireland was both the same as, and subtly different from, its counterpart in England; the lurking presence of the Catholic majority, ultimately untrustworthy in protestant eyes, but utterly indispensable if protestant society, households, and farms were to function; the processes of social enhancement and degradation; the relationship between different social strata. Perhaps the most important conclusion from Barnard's anatomy lesson is the "haziness of the frontiers in eighteenth-century society" (p. 254)--as repeatedly his detailed knowledge of individual cases and examples challenges and undermines crass generalizations and neat binary distinctions. The strength of the book is also, though, its weakness. The gift for discovering sources and the relentless pursuit of detail provide us with a wonderful series of individual portraits and thematic analyses. But the inevitable abandonment of chronology comes at a cost. In particular, it makes it difficult to place the analysis of change in a meaningful context. Barnard is too good a historian not to be alert to the significant shifts in attitude in the hundred years after 1649, as Protestant allergy to Catholics was replaced by a cautious tolerance, as hostility to Irish barbarism softened into more reasoned reflections on Irish backwardness, as Irish placemen squeezed out English from profitable offices. But these insights are scattered almost randomly throughout the book and are not really summarized in the relatively short conclusion. The overall impression of the book, in other words, is syncretic and synthetic, usefully bringing together large amounts of material from various localities and periods under a particular head, but tending to smooth over difference and discontinuity. Given the Irish obsession with politics and violence, and the inevitable rigidities and biases which narrative and chronological history imposes, Barnard's book can perhaps best be seen as a welcome antidote to earlier historiographical obsessions. One final and, alas, all too frequent lament. From the academic's point of view it is a difficult book to read--end rather than footnotes; and, the cause of repeated cursing from this reviewer, no bibliography. Given Barnard's wide reading and his extraordinary ability to dig out new manuscript sources, it is a matter of great regret that there is no simple way of assessing what he has consulted and where apart from plowing through the endnotes. In the best Irish fashion, two final final points. First, this volume should not be judged alone. Such was the wealth of material, that Barnard has had to divide his anatomy into two. Its twin, _Making the Grand Figure_, deals with Protestant material culture and ideas [1]. And second, it is perhaps important to stress that this is indeed an anatomy--with all the faults and strengths of that form of dissection. For this reviewer, the strengths hugely outweigh the weaknesses. There is a reassuring physicality about this book, a sense of the recovery of life as it was lived, which blazes a new and welcome path in Irish history. Note [1]. _Making the Grand Figure: Lives and Possessions in Ireland, 1641-1770_ (New Haven: Yale University Press, 2004). See also his forthcoming _A Guide to the Sources for Irish Material Culture, 1500-1900_ (Dublin: Four Courts Press, 2005). Copyright (c) 2005 by H-Net, all rights reserved. H-Net permits the redistribution and reprinting of this work for nonprofit, educational purposes, with full and accurate attribution to the author, web location, date of publication, originating list, and H-Net: Humanities & Social Sciences Online. For other uses contact the Reviews editorial staff: hbooks[at]mail.h-net.msu.edu. | |
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5456 | 25 January 2005 10:05 |
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:05:33 -0000
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CFP Diasporas, Migration, and Identities, Clare College, Cambridge | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: CFP Diasporas, Migration, and Identities, Clare College, Cambridge MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Email Patrick O'Sullivan For information... "Does an 'Atlanticist' approach rationalise or limit our understandings of the impact of migration?..." Indeedy-doody... P.O'S. -----Original Message----- Subject: [BGEAH] CFP: Diasporas, Migration, and Identities Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:15:43 -0000 From: bgeah[at]lists.stir.ac.uk Call For Papers Sponsored by the Omohundro Institute of Early American History and Culture and the Cambridge University Mellon Professor of American History, Tony Badger. The British Group in Early American History invites participants for its fifth annual conference, on the theme of "Diasporas, Migration, and Identities." The conference will take place at Clare College, University of Cambridge, between the 9th and 11th of September 2005. The movement of peoples was the lifeblood of the Early Modern Atlantic world. This conference seeks to explore the origins, processes, and outcomes of this movement for individuals, their communities, and societies. Westward and transatlantic migration was the most formative and powerful influence over the evolution of North America, but was inconstant and uneven over time and place. Internal migration reconfigured demographic, economic, and religious conditions on the seaboard and in the backcountry, and changed the dynamics of settler-native relations. Return migration facilitated the construction of networks of communication, and offered insight into the contrasts between the Old World and the New. Illicit migration (or fugitivity) provided an outlet - whether temporary or permanent - through which people held in bondage manifested their discontent. These complex vectors of human movement underwrote the proliferation and adaptation of cultural practices, and culminated in the creation and expression of new identities by individuals, communities, and societies - albeit modelled on mythic archetypes. The conference organisers invite papers or panels on any subject relating to the history of the Early Modern Atlantic World between c.1500 and c.1800, and particularly welcome proposals that engage with the theme of "Diasporas, Migration, and Identities." The below suggestions are not intended to be prescriptive, but to offer a flavour of the sorts of question we hope to explore. Origins - What influences affected specific migration patterns? - How were subaltern groups (e.g. Indians and Africans) involved in creating and imposing identities upon themselves and others? - Was 'Othering' something that only Europeans did, or was it a two-way process? - To what extent did colonisation in the seventeenth or eighteenth centuries harden perceptions of Britishness? - Was opportunity or loss a more significant force in the lives of European embarkees and colonial inhabitants? - In what ways did the Loyalists differ from other diasporic groups? - Are 'folkways' a useful categorising or analytical tool for the historical study of subsets of Europeans, Africans, and native Americans? - Did greater knowledge about the peripheries deter or encourage decisions to migrate? Processes - Does an 'Atlanticist' approach rationalise or limit our understandings of the impact of migration? - Where and when was human agency more important than environmental conditions in determining the nature of colonial communities? - How did the network of transatlantic shippers and merchants affect the direction and character of migration? - How has Richard White's model of the 'Middle Ground' developed our understanding of how group identities are negotiated? - In what ways did imports and exports alter colonial groups' self-perceptions? - Were perceptions of gender and sexuality less affected by colonisation than race and class? - How were power structures (e.g. religious orthodoxy or political hegemony) challenged or reinforced by migration? - In what ways did changes in the organisation of families re-orientate colonial societies? Outcomes - Was migration (or diaspora) a prerequisite of exceptionalism or vice versa? - Was the interplay of freedom and slavery more evident to insiders or outsiders? - Do borderlands aid or abet our understanding of colonial identities? - How justifiable is the Anglocentrism that has often characterised versions of America's colonial past? - Were colonial wars harbingers of or responses to ethnic boundaries? - How did native Americans differentiate between different European groups, and when and why did this discrimination dissolve a more collective perception of whiteness? - To what extent were colonial laws, customs and leisure patterns barometers of creolisation? - How does the phenomenon of border-crossings (e.g. Indian captivity, interracial marriage, christianisation) complicate our understanding of colonial identities? - Were colonial towns more or less conducive than rural regions to identity-formation? - How discernible were colonial identities before and after revolutions? - Did migration undermine radicalism? Please send an abstract of your paper/panel proposal and a short curriculum vitae to Ben Marsh at the address or e-mail below. The deadline for proposals is March 30, 2005. Dr. Ben Marsh Department of History University of Stirling Stirling United Kingdom e-mail: ben.marsh[at]stir.ac.uk Conference chairs: Gail MacLeitch (King's College, London) Ben Marsh (Stirling University) Peter Marshall (Manchester University) Steve Sarson (University of Wales, Swansea) | |
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5457 | 25 January 2005 10:07 |
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:07:00 -0000
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Picture of 'Wild Geese' 6 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Picture of 'Wild Geese' 6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dan Leach dploy[at]ihug.com.au Subject: Re: [IR-D] Picture of 'Wild Geese' Number 102 of Osprey's 'Men-at-Arms' series (mostly aimed at the modelling market but very carefully researched and detailed) is 'The Wild Geese: The Irish Brigades of France and Spain'. It was out of print for a good many years but was specially reprinted in 2001 (the original printing was 1980). It's replete with images, including full-colour plates of various uniforms, flags, etc. You might find it at ospreypublishing.com DL >From: Joe Bradley >j.m.bradley[at]stir.ac.uk >Patrick > >Can you (or anyone else) point me towards a visual image of the 'Wild Geese' >that might be used to signafy the Irish diaspora? > >Thanks > >Joe | |
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5458 | 25 January 2005 10:07 |
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:07:31 -0000
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Journals, Irish Studies and Diaspora Studies 8 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Journals, Irish Studies and Diaspora Studies 8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joan Allen Joan.Allen[at]newcastle.ac.uk Subject: RE: [IR-D] Journals, Irish Studies and Diaspora Studies 7 Can colleagues who have looked at the Pilot tell me whether it had a children's column and, if so, when it was introduced. Joan Allen ________________________________ From: Ruth-Ann M. Harris harrisrd[at]bc.edu Subject: Re: [IR-D] Journals, Irish Studies and Diaspora Studies 3 The Pilot was purchased by the Archdiocese in 1916. I know they dropped the "Missing Friends" ads fairly soon after that which may or may not have been a result of embarrassment over the family breakup implied in so many of the ads. Prior to the 1870s the Pilot was a wonderfully supportive paper for the Irish community. Ruth-Ann Harris Ruth-Ann M. Harris Adjunct Professor of History and Irish Studies, Boston College Phone: 617-522-4361; weekends and summer, 603-938-2660. | |
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5459 | 25 January 2005 10:09 |
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:09:22 -0000
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Irish on US TV 4 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Irish on US TV 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jamesam[at]si.rr.com Subject: Re: [IR-D] Irish on US TV 2 Not to forget these lines on Columbo in the '70's in the episode A Game of Darts: As always, Columbo rises to the occasion and beats the killer at his own game. Squinting and wobbling, Columbo tosses three winning throws, declaring: "This is for taking on an Irishman in his own back yard........This is for being an Italian in an Irish pub.......and this...is for the sainted memory of Sergeant Gilhooley!" ...and there was also an episode of Hawaii 5-0 the same year entitled "Up the Rebels" - as you can imagine, the stereotypical Irish gun runner from an IRA splinter group. I believe both were 1977. ----- Original Message ----- > Email Patrick O'Sullivan > > I do recall some mentions of the Irish in the Wagon Train series... > And, indeed, a search of the web site turned up a number, including this one... > > Liam Fitzmorgan Story > (ep. #2.5) > 10/28/1958 > Ordered by Ireland's Freedom Fighters to find the traitor who caused > the execution of several of their followers, Liam joins the train. A > group of Irish settlers already with the train become very distrustful of him. > | |
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5460 | 25 January 2005 10:15 |
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:15:46 -0000
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Picture of 'Wild Geese' 7 | |
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From: Patrick O'Sullivan Subject: Picture of 'Wild Geese' 7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian Lambkin Brian.lambkin[at]uafp.co.uk Subject: RE: [IR-D] Picture of 'Wild Geese' 4 At a tangent, geese also appear in the logo of the Association of European Migration Institutions www.aemi.dk There is a 'nineteenth century representation of the Wild Geese after the Treaty of Limerick October 1691' given in Robert Shepherd, Ireland's Fate: The Boyne and After, Aurum Press, 1999 Brian Lambkin | |
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