One of the highpoints of our journey across this summer was our visit to
the field where Charles Orser and his team of archaeologists are digging
out the hidden remnants of Ballykilcline, near Strokstown, Co.
Roscommon..

We - me plus my sons, Dan and Jake - pitched our tent in the field, next
to the dig - a lovely place, overlooking Kilglass Lough. We stayed
awake too long, talking, like you do in tents - and were woken by the
sound of sheep baaing, cows lowing, and the scrape, scrape, scrape of
archaeologist trowel on rock. They do work hard.

Charles Orser now reports that his Web site, reporting on the dig and
the summer's events, has been updated at...

http://www.ilstu.edu/~ceorser/field_school.htm

[That's how the address has come through - but it might actually need
html at the end. Up to date browsers will cope.]

There is the abstract of an earlier Charles Orser report at...
http://www.archaeology.org/9709/abstracts/ireland.html

Archaeologists, of course, are very interested in ceramics - little bits
of pot resist time and wait to be dug up. At Ballykilcline we are
seeing lots of fragments of familiar ceramics, jugs, bowls, plates -
evidently imported from England. Which tells one sort of story.

But Charles and his team have become very interested in another kind of
material - what he calls 'redware'. 'Redware' - it turns out - was
indigenous, Irish, local, 'peasant' pottery. Charles has found that it
has hardly been studied at all. Redware must have been made in numerous
local potteries throughout Ireland - and these have not been studied.
Charles and his team are now looking at possible sites. Some odd
examples of Redware have survived in folk museums.

There are two distinctive items, which seem to have been central to the
Irish rural way of life in the early nineteenth century. One is a large
shallow bowl, the other is a distinctive pitcher or jug. The Bowl. And
The Jug.

Charles and his team then moved on to look at the illustrations of the
period, familiar and unfamiliar - especially the Famine illustrations.
I will long remember the impromptu slide show that Charles set up for
us, on the patterned wallpaper wall of his rented bungalow.

I found myself looking at illustrations I had looked at a thousand times
before, and I was seeing something new in them...

What is great now is that - thanks to the Web - you can now recreate
this impromptu seminar in the comfort of your own home, office, or
classroom.

For many of the key Famine illustrations can be found on the Web. For
example here...

http://vassun.vassar.edu/~sttaylor/FAMINE/

(There are a number of such sites.)

Look at the picture at...

http://vassun.vassar.edu/~sttaylor/FAMINE/ILN/Evictions/Evictions.html

This is 'Ejectment of Irish Tenantry', the famous James Mahony
illustration that appeared in the London Illustrated News, xiii, 1848.
On the right of the picture stand two soldiers. Just in front of them,
moving towards the centre of the illustration, is a table. Under the
table, framed by the table top and its legs, is The Jug.

You might even be able to detect what looks like The Bowl, just in front
of The Jug.

If you scroll down, to the little cameo at the beginning of the text,
there is a despairing peasant. With Jug.

Once you get your eye in you find this Jug throughout the illustrations
of nineteenth century Ireland.

Thus in Raymond Gillespie & Brian P. Kennedy, Town House, Dublin
(Roberts Rinehart Publishers, Niwot, Colorado) 1994, the illustration on
page 46, in the chapter, W. H. Crawford, 'Provincial Town Life in the
Early Nineteenth Century: An Artist's Impressions'. Says the writer:
'Note the distinctive buckets... and the handsome pottery jugs...'
Very, very red - those jugs.

(This volume also includes, Margaret Crawford, 'The Great Irish Famine
1845-9: Image Versus Reality', her study of the Mahony illustrations.)

Or look at E. Margaret Crawford, ed., The Hungry Stream, 1997 - the
cover illustration of The Hungry Stream is a painting by Joseph
Barker, 'The Irish Emigrants', courtesy of the Victoria Art Gallery,
Bath and North East Somerset Council - a regional English art gallery.
In the corner of the painting, a distinctive reddish grey slipware
Jug...

You also find The Jug, and The Bowl, in the 'ethnographic' photographs
with Irish or 'Irish' subject matter in the later part of the nineteenth
century.

What it looks like is that for the artists, and photographers, The Jug
signalled 'Irish peasant'. If you look back at the Mahony,
'Ejectment'... I spoke of The Jug being 'framed' by the table. It is
almost as if the artist was worried that we might miss the significant
Jug, in the clutter of the eviction. And he set it up, back-lit,
isolated, iconic, under the table...

P.O'S.

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From: "alex peach"

Ireland and Poland


Serendipity is now working for the "Zentral Agenda". Whilst looking for
some "Jugs" at the "Views of the Famine" site given by Paddy in his =
posting on symbolic representations of the Irish peasant =
http://vassun.vassar.edu/~sttaylor/FAMINE/ I came across a Punch cartoon
from 1844 relating to Germany's treatment of Poland and Britain's of =
Ireland. The point of the piece is that the two powers were =
comparatively responsible for ill treating the Poles and Irish. You can
find the cartoon at =
http://vassun.vassar.edu/~sttaylor/FAMINE/Punch/Punch.html

Alex Peach.

From: Hilary Robinson


This was posted on the Pillarbox listing (please don't reply to me, but to those
named - thanks)

Reply to: Ray Wallace


Call for Abstracts

NORTHERN IRISH LITERATURE:
WRITING THE TROUBLES

The editors of this proposed collection are interested in essays which
explore the way(s) in which Northern Irish writers have dealt with the
Troubles in Northern Ireland (1968-to the present) in their fiction,
drama, or poetry. The editors plan a collection which examines Ulster's
literary responses to this period in its divided political/social history.
We seek heretofore unpublished essays which examine the ways in which the
conflict has been used as a central theme, an underlying theme, or as an
ever-present backdrop, by many of the important literary voices emerging
from the North over the last thirty years. While we are, of course, open to
essays focusing on individual writers from the North during this time, we
are also interested in essays which explore the following themes:


The Terrorist/Freedom Fighter Dichotomy

The Innocent Bystander

Politics and Poetry

The Portrayal of the Protestant

History and Contemporary Irish Writing: Fiction or Fact

Gender and Sexual Identity

Northern Irish Textual Cinema: Fiction to Film

The Writer's Responsibility in the Troubles

Women Writers

Unionist Writers

Nationalist Writers

Peace and Cease-fires Themes

Representations of Republicanism and Unionism

The Southern View: The Northern Situation as Represented
South of the Border

The editors of Northern Irish Literature: Writing The Troubles welcome
proposals from scholars who would like their work considered for this
volume. Those interested in writing an essay for this collection should send
an abstract of 500 words which discusses the essay they are proposing for
this collection, a short biography, and all pertinent contact information
(address, telephone numbers, e-mail addresses, etc.). Do not send essays at
this time. Deadline 12/3/99. Please, send this information to:


Dr. Ray Wallace and Dr. Bill Gorski

Editors, Northern Irish Literature:
Writing the Troubles

Department of Language and
Communication
318 Kyser Hall
Northwestern State University of
Louisiana
Natchitoches, LA 71497

Wallace[at]alpha.nsula.edu

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Telephone: (318) 357-6272

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From Patrick O'Sullivan

Members of the Irish-Diaspora list might find interesting and useful the
following - lengthy - review of the Manuel Castells 'Network Society',
'Information Age', trilogy. The Web site address is given at the end.
Whatever you might think of the Castells enterprise I did notice a
little while ago that his name had become something of a buzzword
amongst those who advise research funders...

P.O'S.


Reviewed for H-USA by Samuel Collins
Manuel Castells. _The Rise of Network Society_. Volume 1, The
Information Age: Economy, Society and Culture. Boston and
Oxford: Blackwell Publishers, 1996. xvii + 556 pp. Tables,
maps, notes, bibliography, and index. $27.95 (paper), ISBN
1-55786-617-1.

Manuel Castells. _The Power of Identity_. Volume 2, The
Information Age: Economy, Society and Culture. Boston and
Oxford: Blackwell Publishers, 1997. xv + 461 pp. Tables,
maps, notes, bibliography, and index. $27.95 (paper), ISBN
1-55786-874-3.

Manuel Castells. _End of Millennium_. Volume 3, The
Information Age: Economy, Society and Culture. Boston and
Oxford: Blackwell Publishers, 1998. xiv + 418 pp. Tables,
maps, notes, bibliography, and index. $27.95 (paper), ISBN
1-55786-872-7.
http://www.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=10224938118111

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From Patrick O'Sullivan


Some folk may recall that last year there was on the Irish-Diaspora list
some discussion of the history of the use of the word 'diaspora' -
prompted in part by a request from our friend Martin Baumann, then at
the University of Hanover, now at the University of Bremen, in Germany.
We collected together some thoughts and bits and sent them on to Martin.

Martin Baumann's Review Article, 'Shangri-La in Exile: Portraying
Tibetan Diaspora Studies and Reconsidering Diaspora(s)', appeared in
_Diaspora_, Volume 6, Number 3, Winter 1997. (The issue did not really
appear in Winter 1997 - that is an academic journal fiction...)

That issue of _Diaspora_ contains a number of articles of interest,
including one by Steven Vertovec.

Martin's review article falls into two parts - a review of 2 books about
the Tibetan diaspora, which segues into 'Reconsidering Diaspora(s)', a
discussion of the notion of 'diaspora' and the use of the word within
different academic disciplines, and by different ethnic/religious
groups.

It will be seen that our efforts to be helpful to Martin have really
paid off - the discussion of Irish use of the word 'diaspora' is
covered, is referenced, and is integrated into the wider discussion.

Martin Baumann is critical of Donald Akenson's and Robin Cohen's
attempts to pin down history and use - and, I have to say, that when it
comes to guidance along the wilder shores of Greek and Hebrew philology
and history, I would be inclined to trust Martin Baumann.

I am pleased to be able to report that Martin Baumann has written a
stand alone version of the second part of his review article,
'Reconsidering Diaspora(s)' - which he has made available to the Irish-
Diaspora list, and which will be published on the Irish Diaspora Studies
Web site.

This is another item that is really too long to post directly to the
Irish-Diaspora list. It needs some tidying - it was written originally
in German.

The big stumbling block, we are finding now, is the whole business of
HTML coding, preparing material for the Web site. This is very time-
consuming. Newer word processors, which can 'save as HTML', do help a
little - but everything still has to be checked, because the word
processors do stick in some very odd coding, and everything has to be
connected to everything else. Martin Baumann's piece, dipping into many
different languages, presents special difficulties.

P.O'S.
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From Patrick O'Sullivan

I think that Liam Harte's project is a very interesting one.

I have long had an interest in the nature of autobiography - due, in
part, to the influence of people like Sartre and Lucien Seve. It is
another one of those inter-disciplinary issues - for the different
academic disciplines approach the question of autobiography in different
ways. You also have a genre that changes and develops over time.

I worked hard with Bernard Canavan to get some acknowledgement of the
importance of Irish Diaspora autobiographies on the agenda - and I think
my brief remarks in the Introduction to Patrick O'Sullivan, ed., The
Creative Migrant, 1994, remain a good summary of the debates around
autobiography at that time. I have a very long unpublished paper on the
rescue of autobiography. I have tracked the debates since then... Not
with any great intensity. There is now a lot of post-modernism about...

Some years ago I was approached by a film-maker who wanted to base a
film around an autobiography by a working class Irish person or person
of Irish heritage in Britain. The film-maker had an idea, a vague idea,
of the thing he was looking for - Liverpool Irish slummy might sum it
up.

Now, I recognise I am moving this into a discussion of working class
autobiography, which might not be directly relevant. Here is an extract
from the notes I wrote then...


EXTRACT BEGINS>>>>
Autobiography and the Irish in Britain
Obvious autobiographical material from the early part of this century
would include:

Patrick MacGill, Children of the Dead: the autobiography of a navvy,
first published 1916. MacGill was the 'navvy poet' in Scotland, and
this book is his novelisation of his own life. Canavan deals with
MacGill in his chapter for me, and my own chapter on MacGill appeared in
Hutton & Stewart, eds, Ireland's Histories, Routledge, London, 1991.

John Denvir, The Life Story of an Old Rebel, first published 1910. I am
now working on my own study of John Denvir, to be published next year.
I enclose photocopies of a few pages from Old Rebel - very Liverpool-
centred.

Tom Barclay, Memoirs and Medleys: the autobiography of a bottle-washer,
Leicester 1934

Patrick McGeown, Heat the Furnace Seven Times More, London, 1967
(Scotland again)

Pat O'Mara, Autobiography of a Liverpool Irish Slummy, Vanguard Press,
London 1933/Hopkinson, London, 1934. He was born in 1900 - so maybe a
little later than the period you are interested in. But it's all there,
slum life, the courts, the workhouse, battles with Orangemen. He went
to sea in 1914. Last heard of working as a taxi-driver in Baltimore,
USA.

And see the other autobiographies studied by Canavan. There are a few
other odds and ends. But my point is that we can list published
autobiographies by Irish people in England or by people of Irish
heritage in England - and the list will not be all that long.

There is a background problem, which might explain some of the
difficulties you have been having - and it is a problem in cultural
history, and the history of culture. You have to think about working
class lives, the history of education, the point at which a member of
the working class might write his/her own autobiography, the point at
which such an autobiography might be of interest to the book-reading
middle class - and thus might actually get published.

Both Canavan and I, in those chapters I cited earlier, deal with this
problem - and the person who has thought most clearly about the issue is
Brian Maidment, The Poorhouse Fugitives, Carcanet, Manchester, 1987
(this is a study of nineteenth century working class English poets).
Patrick MacGill leap-frogged the problem by turning his own life
straight into a novel.

The earliest, published Irish immigrant working class autobiography I
can think of is John O'Neill, 'Fifty Years Experience as a Shoemaker in
London', 1869.

You, by looking for a printed book, have placed yourself in the middle
of this problem.

Ways Forward
I can think of two ways forward.

Take Pat O'Mara's Liverpool Slummy, and use it as the starting point for
a cinematic exploration of the experiences and history of the Liverpool
Irish. The script/film would then establish a tension between the
child's point of view, looking up and out, and the social historian,
looking back and down.

Stop looking for published books, and think again - what is it you are
looking for? I have been shown various unpublished memoirs - and we
could try to hunt down something suitable. But I am not sure that is
the way forward - there is always something posed about memoirs,
unpublished or published.
EXTRACT ENDS>>>>

Etc., etc. I then looked at what David Fitzpatrick had done with
letters.

The novelisation point is interesting. Is Robert Tressell (Robert
Noonan), The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists, an Irish working class
autobiography. No, for it is very much a novel - and Noonan's
'Irishness' is hidden, I think, so as not to dilute his working-class-
ness.

I have not thought this through thoroughly, but... I think that -
especially for working class autobiography, and not just Irish working
class autobiography - there are recurring problems of audience and
agenda. Over the years I have bought and read quite a few ENGLISH
working class autobiographies, just to work out the agenda.

What audience is being aimed at? Well, it's usually middle class book-
buyers. What does this audience want explained. Two themes come up
again and again. 1. Why do the poor fight? 2. Why do the poor gamble?

I have maybe said enough about 1. in another place. But the gambling
one is interesting too. It puts us in the middle of middle class
(indeed Benthamite) ideas of economic self-interest, undeserving poor,
etc.

Later, of course, the audience can change. I think that there were
certain generations of the Irish in Britain who found and LOVED MacGill,
Children of the Dead End. One of my copies of Children came from the
Bradford Library and Literary Society - it is almost worn out through
reading. Apparently the Librarian there said that the book 'never left
the desk' - that is, there was always a waiting list to read it, and it
was never re-shelved.

P.O'S.

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The Central Statistics Office of the Republic of Ireland estimates the
population of the Republic to have reached 3.74 million, a 1.1% increase
on last year. This is the largest recorded number since the foundation
of the State and the highest for the 26-county area since 1881.
Immigration for the year to April 1999 was 47,500, although the
tradition of emigration continues and 18,500 people left the country.
Births outnumbered deaths by 21,200.

For a discussion of recent Irish patterns of migration see Piaras Mac
Einri's _Etudes Irelandaises_ article which is displayed at...

http://migration.ucc.ie/activities/publications/academic%20articles/
etudesirlandaises.htm

P.O'S.

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From: "Anthony McNicholas"

Subject: Literary pseudonyms

Dear Ir-D list,
Could anyone help me with the following? I'm trying to find the real names
of two writers who contributed to a short-lived 1870 London-Irish newspaper
called New Ireland. They are first El Filibustero who wrote a story called
Cuilrathen; and Ollamh Fodhla who wrote a column Gossip from Ireland. As
people seemed to have a pseudonym for every day of the week as well as for
different genres, poetry, prose etc. the task is not easy and any help would
be greatly appreciated. I am actually looking for dozens of them but these
two would be a start. Perhaps anyone who has the gaelic could tell me what
Ollamh Fodhla means.

Anthony McNicholas

From: don.macraild[at]sunderland.ac.uk (MACRAILD Don)

Autobiography of Irish in Britain,


Liam Harte, and other list members, might be interested in Peter
Donnelly's melancholy autobiography, YELLOW ROCK. It was published (I
think) in the early 1950s.

It's mentioned in my book on the Cumbrian Irish, but, as luck would have
it, I don't have a copy to hand.

Burnett, Mayall and Vincent's annotated bibliography of working-class
autobiography (3 vols) is a treasure trove of such materials (I found
Donnelly there) and a good dig would be bound to yield other material.

Don MacRaild
University of Sunderland

From Patrick O'Sullivan

I am getting requests for information about Irish subject matter
illustrations on the Web. This one comes up fairly regularly, as people
look for book covers or teaching material. So, I thought I should share
my thoughts - such as they are - with the Irish-Diaspora list.

The problem is that the situation changes all the time, as enthusiasts
of one sort or another buy a scanner, and put stuff up.

I'd be inclined to go to the search engines. The best ones for our sort
of work as most probably Northern Light and Infojump - though the
adverts at Infojump are a bit annoying.
http://www.northernlight.com
http://www.infojump.com

And you could get yourself a Web Ferret
http://www.ferretsoft.com
These actually do work.

These are some of the places where I have found Irish subject matter
illustrations, including some of the classic images of the Irish Famine

http://vassun.vassar.edu/~sttaylor/FAMINE/

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/SADLIER/IRISH/pictures.htm

http://www.assumption.edu/users/McClymer/his270/Jan29.html

http://www.toad.net/~sticker/nosurrender/History.html

http://www.nde.state.ne.us/SS/irish_famine.html

I have to say that usually the contextualisation of the images is a bit
simplistic. We now know a lot about the artists, the journals, the
contexts - and we need to know more.

Another starting point might be
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/sources.html
More and more stuff is being put on this site.

The Bodleian Library, Oxford, is experimenting with putting good runs of
C18th and C19th magazines on the Web - so far nothing much of great
interest to us.

The problem with the search engines and the indexes is that they look
for words. More and more of the museums and art galleries are putting
images on their Web sites, and you can chance on interesting material
there. But I'm not sure how you would go about making such things a
useful resource.

Thus the Museum of the City of New York has a splendid site
http://mcny.org/

You could try looking for known artists. Look at the lovely picture at
http://mcny.org/hist1229.jpg
John O'Brien Inman (1828-1896)
Moonlight Skating --Central Park The Lake Terrace 1878, c. 1878
Oil on canvas
Anonymous gift, 49.415.2

P.O'S.


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From: Sara Brady
Subject: Autonomy & A Song (fwd)


Might be of interest to some:

>
>
>Screening : AUTONOMY AND A SONG
>(by Jim Davis. Ireland/Mexico
>1999, 34 mins. running time.)
>
>Sunday, October 24
>
>A new film which examines the organizational model embraced by Zapatista
>communities in Chiapas will screen in the Knitting Factory next Sunday.
>"Autonomy and a song" was shot earlier this year by an Irish film maker
>and Sunday's screening will be its first public showing.
>
>Beginning with autonomous projects in Mexico City the film
>contextualizes the Zapatista initiatives in terms of broader movements
>for radical democracy throughout Mexico.
>
>It features interviews and footage of the Barrio of Santo Domingo, site
>of the largest land invasion in Latin American history. In 1972 100,000
>people occupied the area and in the following years established a
>thriving community in the new neighborhood which now numbers 2 million
>people.
>
>The film features Gustavo Esteva, one of Latin Americas leading thinkers
>and writers. His most recent book "Grassroots Postmodernism" discusses
>many of the ideas at work in Chiapas and elsewhere.
>
>In Chiapas the film examines the changes that have taken place in terms
>of community decision making and the local economy since the uprising in
>'94. Through interviews with members of two different village
>communities we learn how autonomy works and what it means in terms of
>its most celebrated practitioners.
>
>The film will be screened at 4.00pm in the Knitting Factory
>(74 Leonard St., nearest subway Canal St.)
> Sunday, the 24th of October.
>
>oin he film makers for a discussion after the show.
>
>All proceeds will go to the communities involved in making the film.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------
>New York Free Media Alliance |
>
>Media for Change | Changing the Media
>
> voicemail: (212) 969-8636
>
>website: http://artcon.rutgers.edu/papertiger/nyfma
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
Sara Brady
Managing Editor, TDR
Tisch School of the Arts
721 Broadway, 6th floor
New York, NY 10003-6807
212-998-1626 phone
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From: Carmel McCaffrey

Subject: Re: Ir-D Literary pseudonyms


'Ollamh Fodhla' means High Poet of Ireland. Fodla means the country but when
applied under certain conditions pertains to Ireland. The world Ollamh is a
higher form of the word File which means an ordinary poet - the Ollamhs were the
High Poets.
Carmel McC

:

> From: "Anthony McNicholas"
>
> start. Perhaps anyone who has the gaelic could tell me what
> Ollamh Fodhla means.
>
> Anthony McNicholas

From: Hilary Robinson
Subject: SPOON-ANN: CFP: "Terms of Empire"

This was on the spoon-announcements list - pleas direct enquiries to
those named, rather than to me - thanks
Hilary


>owner-spoon-announcements[at]localhost using -f
>Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:17:38 +0100 (BST)
>From: Glenn Hooper

>Reply-To: Glenn Hooper
>Status:
>
> [Spoon-Announcements is a moderated list for distributing info of
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>
>
>CALL FOR PAPERS
>
>
>"Terms of Empire: Landscape and Writing, 1800 to the Present"
>
>
>an international and multidisciplinary conference to be held at the
>University of Aberdeen, 9-11 June 2000, hosted by the Research Institute
>of Irish and Scottish Studies.
>
>
>Plenary speakers are Mary Conde (Queen Mary and Westfield College, Longon)
>and Angela Smith (stirling)
>
>
>Themes include:
>
>* cities and settlements
>* the politics of locale
>* regional rivalry;
>* terror and territory
>* landscapes of desire
>* cartography and writing
>
>Other topics will, of course, also be considered providing they address
>the overall conference theme.
>
>
>Emailed abstracts are welcome. Papers should be 20 mins long.
>
>Email Glenn Hooper (g.hooper[at]abdn.ac.uk) for further details, or write:
>Institute of Irish and Scottish Studies, Humanity Manse, University of
>Aberdeen, 19 College Bounds, Aberdeen, AB24 3UG, Scotland
>

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From: "Jill Blee"
Organization: University of Ballarat

Subject: Through Irish Eyes Conference


Our conference website has now been upgraded to include the
conference programme.It can be found at
http://www.ballarat.edu.au/bssh/asc/throughi.htm

While we dont anticipate any alterations to the programme between
now and the conference we will notify you if there are any changes or
additions.

Could presenters please provide a short biography to the organisers
with their registrations details so they can be included in the
conference proceedings,

Jill Blee
Conference Convenor

From: "Marion R. Casey"

Subject: Manchester



One of my students would like to do a comparative paper on the Irish in
New York and in Manchester. Does anyone have suggestions regarding the
literature on Manchester? We will be very grateful.

Marion Casey
Department of History
New York University

From: Patrick Maume
Subject: Literary pseudonyms


From: Patrick maume
Ollamh Fodla was the legendary lawgiver of ancient Ireland. THere
was a statue of him in the Four Courts (along with Moses, Solon and
other lawgivers) until it was destroyed in the 1922 explosion.
British Israelites believe that he was actually the Prophet Jeremiah
and is buried on Devenish Island in Fermanagh - but British Israelites
believe many strange things.
Best wishes,
Patrick.

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:32:00 +0100 irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
wrote:

> From:irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:32:00
+0100
> Subject: Ir-D Literary pseudonyms
> To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Carmel McCaffrey
>
> Subject: Re: Ir-D Literary pseudonyms
>
>
> 'Ollamh Fodhla' means High Poet of Ireland. Fodla means the
country but when
> applied under certain conditions pertains to Ireland. The world
Ollamh is a
> higher form of the word File which means an ordinary poet - the
Ollamhs were the
> High Poets.
> Carmel McC
>
> :
>
> > From: "Anthony McNicholas"

> >
> > start. Perhaps anyone who has the gaelic could tell me what
> > Ollamh Fodhla means.
> >
> > Anthony McNicholas
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>

From: "Elizabeth Malcolm"

Subject: The Irish Sword


Paddy,

I would just like to add to your comments about 'The Irish Sword' that =
this summer a new editor took over. He is Dr Ken Ferguson, a Dublin =
barrister, who was a contemporary of mine at TCD. He did a Ph.D. on =
Irish military history under T.W. Moody. Ken tells me that he's hoping =
to get several issues out fairly speedily and is looking for articles. =
He has accepted one of mine on the military origins of Irish police =
forces. So, anyone writing anything with a military angle might like to
approach him.

Elizabeth Malcolm
Liverpool

From: Peter Gray

Manchester

Marion
You might want to put your student in touch with Prof Frank
Neal (European Studies Research Institute, University of
Salford, and author of Black '47: Britain and the Famine
Irish, or with Dr Mervyn Busteed (Dept of Geography,
University of Manchester - who has written a number of
articles on the Irish in Manchester).
Best wishes
Peter Gray

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:31:00 +0100
irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk wrote:

>
>
> From: "Marion R. Casey"
>
> Subject: Manchester
>
>
>
> One of my students would like to do a comparative paper on the Irish in
> New York and in Manchester. Does anyone have suggestions regarding the
> literature on Manchester? We will be very grateful.
>
> Marion Casey
> Department of History
> New York University
>
>
>
>

----------------------
Peter Gray
Department of History
University of Southampton
pg2[at]soton.ac.uk

'The Memory of Catastrophe' Conference
Southampton, 14-17 April 2000
http://www.soton.ac.uk/~ko/

From: don.macraild[at]sunderland.ac.uk (MACRAILD Don)

Subject: Discourses of Diaspora-conference


I wonder if anyone else has picked up the following from other web
areas?
Don MacRaild, Sunderland


CALL FOR PAPERS

CANADIAN ASSOCIATION FOR AMERICAN STUDIES

DISCOURSES OF DIASPORA

NOVEMBER 2-5, 2000
OTTAWA, CANADA
LORD ELGIN HOTEL
This conference will focus on constructions of racial and ethnic
diasporas, inclusive of(but not exclusive to) : the Black Atlantic, the
Jewish Diaspora, the Irish Diaspora, Imperialist diasporas, and so on.
Papers might also query the growing popularity of the term, its origin,
and its current usage.

Proposals should be sent by February 28th, 2000 to:

Priscilla L. Walton
Dept. Of English
Carleton University
Ottawa, ON
K1S 5B6
pwalton[at]ccs.carleton.ca

From: Patrick Maume
Irish in Manchester

From: Patrick Maume
Steven Fielding's Open University Press book on the Irish in Britain
1900-39 is basically about the Manchester Irish, and should lead to
some useful source material.
There has been some controversy about Engels' unflattering portrayal
of the slum Irish in mid-century Manchester's "Little Ireland"
district (albeit Engels had two Irish lovers, Mary and Lizzie Burns -
Frank McGuinness wrote a play about them; Engels by the way
justified his fondness for foxhunting by claiming cavalry would be
needed when the revolution came). IRISH STUDIES REVIEW has a couple
of articles on the subject.
There were two books on the Manchester Martyrs (actually hung in
Salford rather than Manchester) around the time of the centenary in
the late 60s - one by Paul Rose and another by an Irishman (pub. by
Anvil Press in Tralee) called HIGH UPON THE GALLOWS TREE. Gary Owens
of the University of Western Ontario has a recent article on the
Martyrs and their cult - I think in a book on nationalist iconography
edited by Larry McBride. The Martyrs were not of course longterm
Manchester residents but it may be possible to pick up a few snippets
about the local Irish community and its reaction.
W.J. Lowe published a book on the Irish in mid-Victorian Lancashire
in the early 80s, though I seem to remember this concentrated more on
the smaller towns.
Larry McBride recently published a selection of letters from the
Reynolds family, nineteenth-century middle-class Manchester Irish, in
the new NARRATIVES IN IRISH HISTORY series - published by Cork
University Press, I think, and with David Fitzpatrick as series
editor.
Hope these scraps fill a few gaps.
Best wishes,
Patrick

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:31:00 +0100 irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
wrote:

> From:irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:31:00
+0100
> Subject: Ir-D Manchester
> To: irish-diaspora[at]Bradford.ac.uk
>
>
>
> From: "Marion R. Casey"
>
> Subject: Manchester
>
>
>
> One of my students would like to do a comparative paper on the Irish
in
> New York and in Manchester. Does anyone have suggestions regarding
the
> literature on Manchester? We will be very grateful.
>
> Marion Casey
> Department of History
> New York University
>
>