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Just to clarify, the correct refence and the sitter in the likeness is
Eamon Bulfin (1892-1968), not his father William Bulfin.

Edmundo Murray

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It appears to be a version of the Tara Brooch found on a beach in
Bettystown, Co Meath in 1850. It was copied and reproduced by
Waterstones
the jewellers for the Crystal Palace exhibition of 1851. It was then
much
copied in both expensive and cheap reproduction and variant forms (I
have
one from the 1950s that belonged to my mother).

It would certainly have been regarded as a cultural symbol of Irishness
in
the context of the Gaelic Revival and was very popular in its day for
both
men and women, but as far as I know was never adopted formally by any
republican organisation of the time. I may be wrong but I seem to recall
seeing a picture of Yeats (or one of those guys) wearing something
similar.

Liam

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Dear Ir-D members,

Can anybody help me to identify an emblem that William Bulfin was
wearing in the following photograph?
http://www.irlandeses.org/dilab_bulfine.htm

The quality of the picture is not good, so it is difficult to recognise
details. Could it be related to Irish republicanism or Gaelic League?

Thanks in advance for your kind co-operation,

Edmundo Murray

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Friends,

I am happy to report, as this semester winds down, that New Hibernia
Review's Winter, 2006, issue (Volume 10, number 4) will soon appear in =
the
mailboxes of subscribers, or stream onto their computer screens through =
the
magic of Project Muse=AE.=20

This is the fortieth quarterly issue to appear since the first copy was
presented to then-Minister for Arts and Culture Michael D. Higgins on a =
cold
February night in Minnesota in 1997 - and, even allowing for a little
editorial braggadocio, I believe we end our first decade on a high =
note,
indeed.

A table of contents and abbreviated editors' notes, follows.

Christopher Smith (Texas Tech University), "Reclaiming the Commons, One =
tune
at a Time" pp 9-20
Drawing on cultural anthropology, the essays of Gary Snyder, and on
his own varied experience as teacher and performer, Smith arrives at a
deeply humane pedagogic philosophy in which music and its teaching =
resist
commodification and greed.

Anne Markey (Trinity College Dublin) "The Discovery of Irish Folklore" =
pp
21-43
Markey shows that the line between literary fairy stories and
authentic folklore was drawn, redrawn, and transgressed many times in =
the
nineteenth century and after. She surveys such early authors as Thomas
Crofton Croker, Patrick Kennedy, Sir William and Lady Wilde, and =
Douglas
Hyde, as well as the later approaches of Yeats and Joyce to folklore. =
=20

Mary O'Donoghue (Babson College) "Fil=EDocht Nua/New Poems" pp 44-52.
A sampling of eight new poems from the witty author of Tulle (2001)
and D=FCrer's Green Passion, forthcoming from Dedalus Press.=09
=09
James Matthew Wilson (University of Notre Dame) "Louis MacNeice's =
Struggle
with Aristotelian Ethics" pp 53-70.
Wilson examines the philosophical and ethical bases of MacNeice's
understandings of both the self and the self's relationship to the
community. MacNeice struggled to balance Aristotle's assertion that man =
was
inherently a political being against the individualist claims of Kant,
eventually (as would befit a poet in wartime Britain) favoring the =
former.

=09
Timothy J. White (Xavier University) "Why So Few Women in D=E1il =
=C9ireann? The
Effects of the Single Transferable Election System" pp 71-83.
Political scientist Timothy White considers an instance where Irish
social and cultural change unexpectedly lags: the relative scarcity of =
women
office-holders in D=E1il =C9ireann, where the percentage of women has =
stayed
flat since the early 1990s. White asks if Ireland's complicated
Single-Transferable Vote-Proportional Representation electoral system =
might
itself be a cause.=20

Robert W. Maslen (University of Glasgow) "Flann O'Brien's Bombshells: =
At
Swim-Two-Birds and The Third Policeman" pp 84-103 =20
Maslen situates At Swim-Two-Birds (1939) and The Third Policeman
(written in 1940) in the context of those seismic years, finding that
O'Brien's fiction was "built into its time, trapped by it, caught up in =
its
interior workings." He proposes that a central premise of O'Brien's
hilarious novels is that human knowledge of the world, and the =
acquisition
of such knowledge, will progress from the antic to the deadly. =20
=09
Kevin Kerrane (University of Delaware) "The Structural Elegance of =
Conor
McPherson's The Weir" pp 105-22
With unabashed admiration, Kerrane explores the sophisticated
structural principles that underpin McPherson's drama, noting =
antecedents in
classic plays, and parallels in such Irish works as Synge's Playboy and
Stewart Parker's Pentecost . McPherson's play evokes something =
unexpectedly
transcendent. =20

Eibhear Walshe (University College Cork) "Colm T=F3ib=EDn's Gay =
Fictions" pp
122-36
Walshe considers the recent novels of Colm T=F3ib=EDn, and finds a
paradox: as gay writing enters the Irish mainstream, T=F3ib=EDn's later =
fiction
shows progressively less engagement with the homoerotic. In The =
Master-a
2004 fictionalized treatment of Henry James's life in =
England-T=F3ib=EDn
sidesteps Ireland's "post-gay moment" by returning to a time of the =
closet
and homophobia. =09

Wayne K. Chapman (Clemson University) "Joyce and Yeats: Easter 1916 and =
The
Great War" pp. 137-51
Chapman probes what Yeats and Joyce wrote and published =
during
the Great War to reveal facets of Joyce's disenchantment with =
Parnellism and
Irish nationalism. He suggests that Yeats struggled to reconcile =
Ireland's
sacrifices in the Troubles with its sacrifices during the Great War in =
an
uncompleted play for dancers that Mrs. Yeats called "a summary of =
1918." =20

Subscription information, contributor guidelines, contact numbers, and =
other
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Happy reading!

Jim Rogers
Editor

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The North East Irish Culture Network, (NEICN) at the Universities of Sund=
erland and Durham will host Professor Willy Maley, (University of Glasgow=
) on 26th January, 2007 to deliver the Playboy Centenary Lecture, in comm=
emoration of the Playboy riots at the inaugural performance of Synge=92s =
Playboy of the Western World. The lecture will be entitled 'Exchanging Pl=
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ants and Priests',
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Venue The Vardy Gallery, Ashburne House, University of Sun=
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{decoded}Carmel, many thanks for your response.
I checked with the document and it is indeed March 21st 1917.
I will publish a revised text with this and other changes.
Thank you,
Edmundo Murray

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I agree that it looks like a large broach and with the centre pin loose
so that it holds the broach on. I have one just like it. They were
popular among male Irish dancers to hold their cloak on which hung over
one shoulder. By the way, aren't the dates incorrect? He was deported
on March 21st 1916? This would have been before the Rising.

Carmel

Patrick O'Sullivan wrote:
> Edmundo,
>
> The photograph you direct us to is labelled Eamon Bulfin, not William
> Bulfin...
>
> Anyway... To start the ball rolling, it looks to me like a piece of
> jewellery, most probably a version of the Tara Brooch, or one of the other
> brooches in the RIA collection, or a newly designed Celtic Revival piece...
> The main maker was Waterhouse and Company, Dublin.
>
> See the discussion on...
>
> http://www.victorianweb.org/art/design/celtic/byecroft10.html
>
> http://www.victorianweb.org/art/design/jewelry/6.html
>
> The key text is
> Sheehy, Jeanne. The Rediscovery of Ireland's Past: The Celtic Revival
> 1830-1930. Thames and Hudson, London: 1980.
>
> The Tara Brooch itself was found in 1850, in Bettystown, Meath, nowhere near
> Tara - it was given the name by the dealer who sold it on...
>
> Paddy
>
>
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> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf
> Of Murray, Edmundo
> Sent: 29 November 2006 10:35
> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: [IR-D] William Bulfin (1892-1968)
>
> Dear Ir-D members,
>
> Can anybody help me to identify an emblem that William Bulfin was
> wearing in the following photograph?
> http://www.irlandeses.org/dilab_bulfine.htm
>
> The quality of the picture is not good, so it is difficult to recognise
> details. Could it be related to Irish republicanism or Gaelic League?
>
> Thanks in advance for your kind co-operation,
>
> Edmundo Murray
>
> .
>
>

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The Potential for Conflict Archaeology in the Republic of Ireland

Author: Shiels, Damian

Source: Journal of Conflict Archaeology, Volume 2, Number 1, 2006, pp.
169-187(19)

Publisher: BRILL

Abstract:
Ireland has been the scene of countless engagements and battles. Early
clashes saw the Irish fight not only each other, but also foreign =
invaders
such as the Vikings and Anglo-Normans. The Early Modern period saw =
conflict
reach a new level of intensity, with much of the Country being =
devastated
between 1550 and 1700. Later, rebellions such as 1798 and 1916 punctuate =
the
historical record, ending with the War of Independence and Civil War =
between
1919-1923. Battles are only part of the story, however. The Republic is =
also
rich in military buildings of varying dates, and has its share of sites =
such
as World War One training areas and World War Two coastal defences,
encompassing the full spectrum of conflict archaeology. All these sites =
have
received little archaeological attention in the Republic of Ireland. A =
pilot
study of the Boyne battle field remains the only significant work =
carried
out. Despite this, a significant number of military objects have been
recovered throughout the Country, indicating the potential richness of =
this
archaeological resource. This paper will examine a number of locations =
where
further work could be considered, including: Glenmalure, Co. Wicklow =
(1580),
D=FAn An Oir, Co. Kerry (1580), Kinsale, Co. Cork (1601), Dungan's Hill, =
Co.
Meath (1647), Ballymore, Co. Westmeath (1691) and St. Stephen's Green, =
Co.
Dublin (1916).

Document Type: Research article

DOI: 10.1163/157407706778942268

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From Whiskey to Famine: Food and Intercultural Encounters In Irish History

Author: Leerssen, Joep

Source: European Studies: A Journal of European Culture, History and
Politics, Food, Drink and Identity in Europe. Edited by Thomas M. Wilson,
pp. 49-61(13)

Publisher: Rodopi

Abstract:
Food provision and diet belong to the fundamental cultural patterns that
mark a society, and are often foregrounded as salient experiences in
intercultural encounters. This is also the case in one of the most
long-standing intercultural confrontations in European history: that between
Ireland and England. Some discursive thematizations of Irish diet (whisky,
dairy, potatoes, famine) are traced in this article, both in their
historical context and in their rhetorical function.

Document Type: Research article

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Strange City: Belfast Gothic

Author: Alexander, Neal

Source: European Studies: A Journal of European Culture, History and
Politics, Urban Mindscapes of Europe. Edited by Godela Weiss-Sussex with
Franco Bianchini, pp. 113-125(13)

Publisher: Rodopi

Abstract:
This essay sets out to delineate a fragmentary tradition of Belfast =
gothic,
arguing that this bundle of representational paradigms arises directly =
from
the city's perceived status as a 'Black City', the reviled, plainly
industrial counterpart to its projected self-image as a 'City of =
Success'.
Drawing upon representative examples, I will briefly sketch the =
progression
of these infernal and gothic figurations from early non-fictional =
examples
through to their apotheosis in Troubles fiction. Crucially, I situate =
these
depictions of Belfast not so much in relation to Irish gothic, with =
which
they are only slightly connected, as within the broader European context =
of
urban gothic as based on concepts by Freud and T=F6nnies, wherein the =
modern
city becomes the favoured locus of the uncanny and the specific =
character of
urban life provokes powerful social fears.

Document Type: Research article

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On a train of thought...

I happened to be reading some Bronte stuff a while back, and it struck =
me
that the name of the imaginary kingdom in the Bronte childhood stories,
'Angria', is an obvious pun on 'Ireland'...

I cannot be the first person to have noticed this, but I cannot recall
anything in Bronte Studies that remarks on this... I don't mean that =
Angria
is Ireland...

But M. M. BRAMMER, THE MANUSCRIPT OF THE PROFESSOR, Review of English
Studies 1960 XI: 157-170, does link a deleted section of the manuscript,
which mentions Cromwell, with the Angria stories...

Anyway... Does anyone know more?

P.O'S.=20





Arthur Bell Nicholls and the Adamson Saga: New Discoveries of Bront=EB
Memorabilia

Author: Alexander, Christine

Source: Bronte Studies, Volume 31, Number 3, November 2006, pp. =
194-209(16)

Publisher: Maney Publishing

Abstract:
An account of some Bront=EB memorabilia given by the Revd Arthur =
Nicholls and
his second wife to their relations, including an exploration of =
provenance
Adamson / Bell family relationships, and a story of Irish emigration to
Canada.

Keywords: ADAMSON FAMILY; CHARLOTTE BRONTE; BRONTE; MEMORABILIA; ARTHUR =
BELL
NICHOLLS

Document Type: Research article

DOI: 10.1179/147489306X132246

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Oddly, this article does not mention or cite Terry Eagleton's Heathcliff =
and
the Great Hunger (1995), nor A Stranger Within the Gates: Charlotte =
Bronte
and Victorian Irishness by Kathleen Constable (2000)...

I do not criticise the author, who was evidently working in isolated
circumstances. But one wonders if someone in the publication process =
could
not have done more... It is maybe evidence of the lack of connection
between Irish Studies and Bronte Studies...

P.O'S.


That Wind from the West

Author: Arnedillo, Oscar

Source: Bronte Studies, Volume 31, Number 3, November 2006, pp. =
240-247(8)

Publisher: Maney Publishing

Abstract:
Wuthering Heights is about the knowledge and study of passions and =
emotions,
yet there is more Irish background in Emily's work than generally =
accepted.
In this article parallels are made between the writings of Emily Jane =
Bront=EB
and some aspects of Irish history. The possibility that Emily made use =
of
different events in Irish history in the composition of her novel are
explored, many of which were related to her by uncle James while he was
visiting the Parsonage during the time of Irish famine.

Keywords: EMILY BRONTE; IRELAND; IRISH HISTORY; WUTHERING HEIGHTS

Document Type: Research article

DOI: 10.1179/147489306X132327

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After all this useful discussion, I would be interested to hear
a bit more about Bulfin himself. I guess I should probably know these things,
but he seems to have been notable only for being a republican trade
representative in Argentina after 1919. And for his father, I guess.
There is correspondence with one M Collins in the Nat Archives - if only because
MC more or less insisted on writing to everyone in the republican
universe. Can someone fill in a few blanks?

Thanks,

Peter Hart

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Subject: From Today's Irish Independent site.

For information...

Carmel

Partition the greatest economic impediment

Partition has been the single greatest impediment to balanced economic
development across the island of Ireland according to Senator Mary White,
who gave the oration at the 86th anniversary Kilmichael ambush commemoration
on Sunday.
She said that partition has left communities on both sides of the border
socially and economically disadvantaged and economic and social development
did not occur in a balanced way across the two jurisdictions.
The north's transport infrastructure had not kept pace, the railway system
is seriously under-resourced and infrastructure projects have been built on
both sides without regard to the other, she said. The higher tax rate is a
major obstacle to foreign investment in the north and the existence of
different currencies on the island is impeding cross-border employment,
trade and investment and tourism she added.
"At a time of unprecedented economic growth in the south, the north has
deepened its public sector dependency and reliance on the British treasury,"
Ms White said. "Making decisions on an all-island basis, in many cases would
be better for the welfare and health of all the people on the island," she
said.
Ms. White continued that in November 2005, Peter Hain, Secretary of State
for Northern Ireland, said "the economy in the north is not sustainable in
the long term" and that, in future decades, it would be "increasingly
difficult to look at the economy of Northern Ireland and south, except as a
sort of island of Ireland economy".
Quoting from a joint study published last month by Minister for Foreign
Affairs, Dermot Ahern and the Secretary of State for the North, Peter Hain,
on the development of an All-Ireland Economy she said, "to be globally
competitive we must exploit the opportunities of all-island co-operation".
"Both parts of Ireland are on the cusp of a transition to real and genuine
economic and social co-operation and cohesion, which could transform the
prospects for peace and prosperity on this island," Ms. White said.
Ms. White went on to say that, contrary to what is often said about this
so-called materialistic Irish society, she believes that Irish people have
as strong an interest in their past as they ever had - evidenced, she said,
by remarkably high attendance at cinemas for Ken Loach's The Wind That
Shakes The Barley, based on experiences of volunteers such as Tom Barry and
his colleagues.
"The politically charged negative reviews of the film by the London-based
Times and The Telegraph newspapers show their inability to come to terms
with Britain's bloody past in Ireland even now after all these years," she
added.
She paid tribute to the organisers of the Kilmichael and Crossbarry
commemoration committees for their commitment to keeping alive the memory of
those who laid the foundation of the Republic.
A wreath-laying ceremony followed Mass at Castletownkenneigh, where
volunteers Jim O'Sullivan, Michael McCarthy and Pat Deasy, who were killed
during the ambush on November 28, 1920, are buried. Louis Whyte,
commemoration committee PRO, recited a decade of the Rosary in Irish.

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Dear Friends,

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When Michael Collins was released, some critics pointed out historical
inaccuracies and anachronisms. I have heard no such charges brought
against The Wind That Shakes the Barley, and I not a sufficiently well
versed historian to spot them on my own. Can anyone comment on the
accuracy of the film?

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Thanks for your help.

Michael

=20

Michael Patrick Gillespie

Louise Edna Goeden Professor of English

Marquette University

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The film has not yet been released here in the US owing, apparently, to
getting large distributors convinced that it would have a wide appeal.
It is now due for release early 2007.

Carmel

Gillespie, Michael wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
>
>
> When Michael Collins was released, some critics pointed out historical
> inaccuracies and anachronisms. I have heard no such charges brought
> against The Wind That Shakes the Barley, and I not a sufficiently well
> versed historian to spot them on my own. Can anyone comment on the
> accuracy of the film?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Michael Patrick Gillespie
>
> Louise Edna Goeden Professor of English
>
> Marquette University
>
> .
>
>

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Peter and all,

I revised and corrected a few errors in the entry "Bulfin, Eamon
[Eduardo, Edward] (1892-1968), Irish republican and diplomatist" at:
http://www.irlandeses.org/dilab_bulfine.htm
(funny that Eduardo was translated as Eamon...). It is a rather short
text but it may prompt others to unearth more sources.=20

The republican fund raising campaign in Argentina was a failure, or
rather, it fell short of the high expectations that some had in Ireland.
After this the life of Eamon Bulfin seems to have been focused
exclusively in Offaly.=20

Edmundo Murray

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After all this useful discussion, I would be interested to hear
a bit more about Bulfin himself. I guess I should probably know these
things,
but he seems to have been notable only for being a republican trade
representative in Argentina after 1919. And for his father, I guess.
There is correspondence with one M Collins in the Nat Archives - if only
because
MC more or less insisted on writing to everyone in the republican
universe. Can someone fill in a few blanks?

Thanks,

Peter Hart

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I haven't seen the film but, for what it's worth, I think Brian Hanley's
review in History Ireland is the most interesting piece I've seen so far. Their
new site may need subs, not sure.

As a general comment on both films, it's always worth remembering that
film is inherently distorting of fact and incapable of dealing with
detail. Critical historians seem to forget this - we have to cut the
makers some slack if they aim at any sort of plot and pace etc. Probably
the only way to solve the problem would be a small film based entirely on
fictional characters, aimed at evoking experience. Big agendas of any
kind never work - so I suspect the Wind, with all its political points to make,
is problematic just as Collins was. Collins also suffered from its
focus on a real person - when do bio films ever work as history? Mind
you, the Treaty, with B Gleeson's great performance, is a terrific recreation.

My nomination for the story to base the great revolutionary film on, would
be Frank O'Connor's Guests of the Nation. This is also, along with
O'Casey's plough and the Stars, the best thing ever written about the
period. For God's sake, though, no Colin or Cillian.

Peter Hart

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Gillespie, Michael wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>
>
>
> When Michael Collins was released, some critics pointed out historical
> inaccuracies and anachronisms. I have heard no such charges brought
> against The Wind That Shakes the Barley, and I not a sufficiently well
> versed historian to spot them on my own. Can anyone comment on the
> accuracy of the film?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Michael Patrick Gillespie
>
> Louise Edna Goeden Professor of English
>
> Marquette University
>

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Joan,

Not withstanding the fact that you used that phrase "the Irish question"
- in some circles this would classify you immediately with a particular
attitude to Ireland and the Irish. But. having not seen the film yet,
but having read the uproar in both the British and Irish press, I am
wondering why you found the movie difficult to sit through?

Carmel

Joan Allen wrote:
> I think there are two separate issues here. The question of accuracy is fairly straight forward. Creative licence notwithstanding, film makers who are intent upon producing historical representations (and indeed use the claim to authenticity to sell their films to the viewing public...) should avoid inventing/distorting the facts. Perhaps if they consulted the historians more they would not make such regular fools of themselves...
>
> As to the question of whether films about the Irish question present directors and screenplay writers with particular challenges, it would be difficult to find one film in the genre that has not created controversy. By turns, directors have been accused of being too partisan, or not partisan enough. The political climate at the time is often a significant factor too. And so it has proved with 'The Wind that Shakes the Barley'. I found it gripping but quite difficult to sit through. What does anyone else think?
>
>
> Dr Joan Allen
> Lecturer in Modern British History
> Armstrong Building
> University of Newcastle
> NE1 7RU
> Tel 0191 222 6701
>
> Secretary, Society for the Study of Labour History
> www.sslh.org.uk/
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Steven Mccabe
> Sent: Mon 04/12/2006 15:32
> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [IR-D] the wind that shakes the barley
>
>
>
> A DVD copy of the film was passed onto me a few weeks ago which, to my
> shame, I have yet to find time to watch. However, the question that I
> would ask is whether there is a 'problem' for filmmakers in dealing with
> matters that concern politics in Ireland; most especially contemporary
> (i.e. after 1969). It seems that they are tempted to take liberties in
> presenting a story that is 'entertaining' and 'simple'. For example, in
> the miscarriage of justice film, In the name of the father, some real
> howlers were employed. This is reprehensible as the director, Jim
> Sheridan, is Irish.
>
> Also, I wonder if anyone has ever read the PhD thesis (or any other
> work) by Patrick Magee who, during his prison sentence for the 1984
> Brighton bombing studied the representation of republicans in films and
> literature? Incidentally, I believe that since leaving prison he has
> eschewed violence as the means by which to achieve political change and,
> admirably is now directly involved in reconciliation initiatives (he met
> the daughter of one of the victims of the Brighton bomb).
>
> Steven
>
> Dr. Steven McCabe
> Senior Lecturer (and UCE UCU Chair)
> Faculty of Law, Humanities, Development and Society
> University of Central England in Birmingham
> B42 2SU
>
> ( 0121 331 5178
> 6 0121 331 5172
> * steve.mccabe[at]uce.ac.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
> Behalf Of Peter Hart
> Sent: 04 December 2006 14:17
> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [IR-D] the wind that shakes the barley
>
> I haven't seen the film but, for what it's worth, I think Brian Hanley's
> review in History Ireland is the most interesting piece I've seen so
> far. Their
> new site may need subs, not sure.
>
> As a general comment on both films, it's always worth remembering that
> film is inherently distorting of fact and incapable of dealing with
> detail. Critical historians seem to forget this - we have to cut the
> makers some slack if they aim at any sort of plot and pace etc.
> Probably
> the only way to solve the problem would be a small film based entirely
> on
> fictional characters, aimed at evoking experience. Big agendas of any
> kind never work - so I suspect the Wind, with all its political points
> to make,
> is problematic just as Collins was. Collins also suffered from its
> focus on a real person - when do bio films ever work as history? Mind
> you, the Treaty, with B Gleeson's great performance, is a terrific
> recreation.
>
> My nomination for the story to base the great revolutionary film on,
> would
> be Frank O'Connor's Guests of the Nation. This is also, along with
> O'Casey's plough and the Stars, the best thing ever written about the
> period. For God's sake, though, no Colin or Cillian.
>
> Peter Hart
>
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Gillespie, Michael wrote:
>
>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> When Michael Collins was released, some critics pointed out historical
>> inaccuracies and anachronisms. I have heard no such charges brought
>> against The Wind That Shakes the Barley, and I not a sufficiently well
>> versed historian to spot them on my own. Can anyone comment on the
>> accuracy of the film?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Patrick Gillespie
>>
>> Louise Edna Goeden Professor of English
>>
>> Marquette University
>>
>>
>
> .
>
>

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A DVD copy of the film was passed onto me a few weeks ago which, to my
shame, I have yet to find time to watch. However, the question that I
would ask is whether there is a 'problem' for filmmakers in dealing with
matters that concern politics in Ireland; most especially contemporary
(i.e. after 1969). It seems that they are tempted to take liberties in
presenting a story that is 'entertaining' and 'simple'. For example, in
the miscarriage of justice film, In the name of the father, some real
howlers were employed. This is reprehensible as the director, Jim
Sheridan, is Irish.=20

Also, I wonder if anyone has ever read the PhD thesis (or any other
work) by Patrick Magee who, during his prison sentence for the 1984
Brighton bombing studied the representation of republicans in films and
literature? Incidentally, I believe that since leaving prison he has
eschewed violence as the means by which to achieve political change and,
admirably is now directly involved in reconciliation initiatives (he met
the daughter of one of the victims of the Brighton bomb).

Steven =20

Dr. Steven McCabe=20
Senior Lecturer (and UCE UCU Chair)
Faculty of Law, Humanities, Development and Society
University of Central England in Birmingham
B42 2SU
=20
( 0121 331 5178
6 0121 331 5172=20
* steve.mccabe[at]uce.ac.uk
=20
=20
=20

=20

=20

=20
=20


-----Original Message-----
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
Behalf Of Peter Hart
Sent: 04 December 2006 14:17
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [IR-D] the wind that shakes the barley

I haven't seen the film but, for what it's worth, I think Brian Hanley's
review in History Ireland is the most interesting piece I've seen so
far. Their
new site may need subs, not sure.

As a general comment on both films, it's always worth remembering that
film is inherently distorting of fact and incapable of dealing with
detail. Critical historians seem to forget this - we have to cut the
makers some slack if they aim at any sort of plot and pace etc.
Probably
the only way to solve the problem would be a small film based entirely
on
fictional characters, aimed at evoking experience. Big agendas of any
kind never work - so I suspect the Wind, with all its political points
to make,
is problematic just as Collins was. Collins also suffered from its
focus on a real person - when do bio films ever work as history? Mind
you, the Treaty, with B Gleeson's great performance, is a terrific
recreation.

My nomination for the story to base the great revolutionary film on,
would
be Frank O'Connor's Guests of the Nation. This is also, along with
O'Casey's plough and the Stars, the best thing ever written about the
period. For God's sake, though, no Colin or Cillian.

Peter Hart

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Gillespie, Michael wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>
>
>
> When Michael Collins was released, some critics pointed out historical
> inaccuracies and anachronisms. I have heard no such charges brought
> against The Wind That Shakes the Barley, and I not a sufficiently well
> versed historian to spot them on my own. Can anyone comment on the
> accuracy of the film?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Michael Patrick Gillespie
>
> Louise Edna Goeden Professor of English
>
> Marquette University
>

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There was an interesting (and critical)discussion by Stephen Howe on the
Open Democracy site.

See http://www.opendemocracy.net/arts-Film/loach_3650.jsp

Dave


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From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
Behalf Of Carmel McCaffrey
Sent: 04 December 2006 14:28
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [IR-D] the wind that shakes the barley

The film has not yet been released here in the US owing, apparently, to
getting large distributors convinced that it would have a wide appeal. =20
It is now due for release early 2007.=20

Carmel

Gillespie, Michael wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> =20
>
> When Michael Collins was released, some critics pointed out historical

> inaccuracies and anachronisms. I have heard no such charges brought=20
> against The Wind That Shakes the Barley, and I not a sufficiently well

> versed historian to spot them on my own. Can anyone comment on the=20
> accuracy of the film?
>
> =20
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Michael
>
> =20
>
> Michael Patrick Gillespie
>
> Louise Edna Goeden Professor of English
>
> Marquette University
>
> .
>
> =20

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When this first broke on the diaspora list as a subject for discussion I'm =
sure someone mentioned the varying way the British and Irish Star/Sun (?) n=
ewspapers reported the film. In Ireland it was not to be missed while in B=
ritain it was rubbished. As a helpful footnote for something I'm currently=
working on could someone remind me of that e-mail 'or' the newspapers, dat=
es etc when this was mentioned?
=20
Thanks
=20
Joe

________________________________

From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Featherstone, Dave
Sent: Mon 04/12/2006 15:36
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [IR-D] the wind that shakes the barley



There was an interesting (and critical)discussion by Stephen Howe on the
Open Democracy site.

See http://www.opendemocracy.net/arts-Film/loach_3650.jsp

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
Behalf Of Carmel McCaffrey
Sent: 04 December 2006 14:28
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [IR-D] the wind that shakes the barley

The film has not yet been released here in the US owing, apparently, to
getting large distributors convinced that it would have a wide appeal.=20
It is now due for release early 2007.

Carmel

Gillespie, Michael wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
>=20
>
> When Michael Collins was released, some critics pointed out historical

> inaccuracies and anachronisms. I have heard no such charges brought
> against The Wind That Shakes the Barley, and I not a sufficiently well

> versed historian to spot them on my own. Can anyone comment on the
> accuracy of the film?
>
>=20
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Michael
>
>=20
>
> Michael Patrick Gillespie
>
> Louise Edna Goeden Professor of English
>
> Marquette University
>
> .
>
>=20=20



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