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Dear Michael and colleagues on the list

It's true that nostalgia and anecdotal evidence can cloud the issue. But =
in fairness (as we say here in Cork, usually followed by 'boy!', on a =
rising inflection, irrespective of the gender of the person being =
addressed), I think the past twenty years have seen a wonderful increase =
in Irish migration scholarship from the standpoint of the contemporary =
social sciences and other disciplines, in the US and UK as well as in =
Ireland. I recall being at a few ACIS conferences in the early 1990s =
where the focus was almost exclusively on historical perspectives and on =
the work of dead male writers (I say this with no disrespect. My primary =
degree is in history and I will some day be a dead male, if not a =
writer...). The kind of issues which Kevin Cullen's article raises (as =
does the campaign of the ILIR, like it or not) were hardly on the agenda =
at the time even though Ireland had just gone through a mass emigration =
movement comparable in numbers to the 1950s.

While it remains the case that many of the best-known and best published =
in the field are historians (and all due credit to them), there have =
been rich and influential contributions from sociologists, geographers, =
ethnomusicologists, demographers, contemporary literary critics, =
feminists of various shades, philosophers, economists, journalists and =
other media people, creative writers, activists and campaigning =
organisations (whether one agrees with their facts and arguments or =
not). At least some of the silences surrounding migration and its legacy =
in Ireland and elsewhere have been interrogated, even if a lot of work =
remains to be done. I find the ways in which past and present intermesh =
when discussing migration (ours' and other people's), as well as the =
interplay between the many disciplinary perspectives, one of the most =
exciting and challenging aspects of this very porous and constantly =
evolving field.

My colleagues Drs Caitr=EDona N=ED Laoire, Allen White, Naomi Bushin and =
Fina Carpena-Mendez will be running a major conference on migrant =
children in Ireland from 9-11 April (http://migration.ucc.ie/children). =
We hope to publish a searchable online database on work done on =
migration into Ireland in the past ten years or so (a modest and not =
exhaustive beginning, about 400 separate items). It might be worth =
thinking about a similar exercise for work on Irish migrants elsewhere - =
any takers?

Barack Obama, in his (in my opinion anyway) brilliant speech about race =
in Philadelphia, quoted Faulkner "The past isn't dead and buried. In =
fact, it isn't even past." Isn't this true as well for migration =
studies? Some of the cosmopolitan liberals here in Ireland who now want =
to 'embrace difference' talk as if there was no past, or as if it was =
irrelevant. To others of an older generation, when they look at =
immigrants in our society, they see shadows - the ghosts of those who =
have left and will not return. It seems to me that we need to think =
about this.

Let a thousand flowers bloom.

Piaras

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From: MICHAEL CURRAN [mailto:michaeljcurran[at]btinternet.com]=20
Subject: RE: The disappearing Irish migrants.

=20
A Phadraig a chara
=20
Greetings from Belfast.


I'm amazed at the hullaboloo caused by a factual US
newspaper article.
=20
Those of us who study Irish migration scientifically,
are well aware of the fact that the number of
Irish-born in mainland UK (now 500,000 approx.),and
In the USA (250,000 approx), has more than halved in
The past 10 years. Census data from 1991 and 2001/2
Verify that.
=20
Nostalgia and anecdotal evidence tend to cloud the
real issue. Those agencies seeking funding from the
Irish government departments, have to deny the fact
that the number of Irish-born 'across the water' -
both east and west of this island - is rapidly
decreasing or disappearing.
=20
The modern migration phenomenon, as well as Irish
identity and integration themes would be well worth
exploring by the social-scientists at the
forthcoming ACIS conference in Davenport IA!=20
=20
Slan
=20
Michael J Curran=20
=20
=20
=20

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Subject: Re: Book Noticed,
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Bryan,

Thank you for this...

The book just turned up in our automated searches and alerts - which =
means I suppose that, somewhere, 2 databases suddenly started talking to =
each other...

I thought I should first see if there is some simple way of making the =
information visible, without our having to negotiate ways round the =
technologies...

And here it is on World Cat

* Material Type: Biography
* Document Type: Book
* Notes: "Women writing from an Irish perspective in Australia, =
Ireland, England, the United States, Canada and New Zealand."--P. [4] of =
cover. Fiction, poetry and autobiographical writings.
* Description: xxvi, 373 p. : ports. ; 20 cm.
* Contents: Searching ; The beginning ; Changing ; The final =
season / Robyn Rowland -- My grandmother's voice ; The breath of history =
; The Gaelic poets warned me ; The whiteness of snow ; Learning to live =
with it ; I cannot love you as you want to be loved ; I saw a fish this =
morning / Mary Dorcey -- Famine fever ; The whole nine yards / Helena =
Mulkerns -- A shadow on the heart ; To whom it may concern ; A joyous =
day / Colleen Burke -- The making of a writer ; The marvellous boy / =
Linda Anderson -- Sheelan=CC=82ag=CC=82igging around / Nuala Archer -- =
Power cuts / Siobha=CC=81n McHugh -- Extract from Echoes / Maeve Binchy =
-- Extract from Outercourse / Mary Daly -- Being Irish ; Belief / Sue =
Reidy -- How I might write Irish ; Broken language ; Lunch music =
cafe=CC=81 ; Among trees ; Invisible ink ; Ideas of sirens ; Antipodean =
geography ; The pure in heart / Jill Jones -- Drawing ballerinas : how =
being Irish has influenced me as a writer ; The mast year ; Road 32, =
roof 13-23, grass 23 ; The dead are more alive ; Rathlin Road / Medbh =
McGuckian -- The roadside ; Maybe it was 1970 ; Summer breeze / Cherry =
Smyth -- Seeing stars ; Falling asleep with strangers / Joan Bridget -- =
Girl beaming in a white dress / Ailbhe Smyth -- Growing a language ; =
Paper petals ; White petals ; Good fairy bad fairy ; My Irishness ; Wee =
girls ; Sentiments ; Millies ; Tarts ; Bobbing for apples ; Speaking of =
Eve ; Sabbath ; Good women ; Dying ; Deadmen's eyes ; Time out ; The =
planet next door / Lizz Murphy -- Once upon a time ; A wedding ; =
Skeletons ; Coming back down to earth ; priorities / Bub Bridger -- Loop =
the loop / Francesca Rendle-Short -- Potatofah-Minirish ; Lifo / Pam =
Lewis -- On being an Irish woman writer ; Tomato time ; Long drive to =
work ; Snowy via Canberra ; Lamb-marking ; rites ; Bee Yellow Native ; =
Circling Dublin / Bronwyn Rodden -- The flogger ; Prism ; The taxi man =
knows ; Mothercare ; Higher purchase ; The flute girl's dialogue / Rita =
Ann Higgins -- Anna Liffey ; Making the difference ; The emigrant Irish =
/ Eavan Boland.
* Responsibility edited by Lizz Murphy.

Summary/Abstract

Women writing from an Irish perspective. The collection includes =
Helena Mulkerns' Famine Fever, a story on the Great Famine, Robyn =
Rowland's Searching, which is on a woman's visit to the country of her =
ancestors, and Eavan Boland's The Emigrant Irish, on the life of the =
Irish in the New World.

P.O'S.



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From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On =
Behalf Of Bryan Coleborne
Sent: 28 March 2008 06:21
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Subject: Re: [IR-D] Book Noticed, Wee girls: women writing from an Irish =
perspective.

Paddy I have a copy, going back to when "Wee Girls" was published in =
1996. Would you like a TOC? It comes to three pages. By fax? The =
publisher's current details: www.spinifexpress.com.au (This replaces =
the website given on the copyright page.) Spinifex Press describes =
itself as "an independent feminist press publishing innovative and =
controversial feminist books with an optimistic edge. Spinifex is an =
Australian desert grass that holds the earth together." According to the =
website, copies are still available at $AUS 24.95. Lizz still had some =
copies for sale last time I saw her, at the "Shamrock in the Bush" =
conference in 2006. There is a short account of her on the Spinifex =
Press website.=20
=20
This is a timely inquiry. Poet, editor and artist, Lizz lives in the =
village of Binalong, near Yass (now my Australian home), Boorowa and =
Galong - all important in the history of Irish settlement in =
south-western New South Wales. There are numerous people active in =
Irish-Australian studies in the area. Irish-Australian historical themes =
are recalled once a year in the "Shamrock in the Bush" conference at =
Galong, the site of a Redemptorist Monastery, now St Clement's Retreat =
and Conference Centre, once the home of Ned Ryan, b. Co. Tipperary, =
1786, who was sentenced to death, 1816 for his part in political =
protests, transported, given a ticket of leave and became a major =
landholder (200,000 acres at one stage). In 1854 he became a magistrate. =
His son became a member of the N.S.W. parliament and his home, known as =
Ned's Castle, passed to the Redemptorists (see www.stclement.com.au). It =
is now part of the Archdiocese of Canberra.
=20
"Shamrock in the Bush" is convened by Cheryl Mongan and Richard Reid for =
the Canberra Historical Society. A selection of papers from many years =
of the conference (the 15th was held in 2007) was published last year: =
"Echoes of Irish Australia. Rebellion to Republic", eds. Jeff Brownrigg, =
Cheryl Mongan and Richard Reid. St Clement's Retreat and Conference =
Centre, Galong. 269 pp.$AUS 39.95.
=20
There was a review of the book by Frank O'Shea in "The Canberra Times" =
last Saturday. I'm not sure how well it would scan. Again, by fax?
Bryan Coleborne
Professor of Irish Literature
Aichi Shukutoku University
JAPAN
=20

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Our attention has been drawn to a forthcoming book. There is already a =
book review in the Irish Emigrant newsletter and on the web site - link =
and extract pasted in below...

I hope we are beyond defensiveness about such revelations - and of =
course similar patterns have emerged in other countries.

My previous careers mean that I am aware of flight - and migration - as =
one solution available to the young people caught up in these =
nightmares. Which is why I made such efforts to publish Ide B. O' =
Carroll chapter, Breaking the silence from a distance: Irish women speak =
on sexual abuse., in The Irish World Wide series.

P.O'S.

Breaking the Silence - Martin Ridge with Gerard Cunningham

http://www.emigrant.ie/article.asp?iCategoryID=3D49&iArticleID=3D74798

'...And what must occur to anyone reading this account of the rape and =
sexual abuse of so many young people in one parish in Donegal, is that =
it is unlikely to be an isolated case; perhaps victims in many other =
areas of the country are awaiting their opportunity to talk about their =
pain and despair. It is certainly a book that will leave a sense of =
betrayal, while at the same time eliciting an enormous sympathy for all =
those whose innocence was taken from the by men whom they should have =
been able to trust implicitly...'

(Gill & Macmillan, ISBN 978-0-7171-4397-9, pp217, =E2=82=AC12.99)

Connemara man Martin Ridge is a retired member of An Garda =
S=C3=ADoch=C3=A1na.

Gerard Cunningham is a freelance journalist.

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This Conference includes a paper by Louise Ryan...

Louise Ryan (Policy Research Centre, Middlesex University)
'Work, family, agency: Irish and Polish women in Britain in the post-war
period'

P.O'S.

Conf Ann: FAMILIES, CONSTRUCTIONS OF FOREIGNNESS AND MIGRATION IN 20th
CENTURY WESTERN EUROPE

How did 'family' figure in political and cultural constructions of
foreignness in Western Europe in the last century? And how did these
policies and stereotypes shape and were shaped by the
family-related strategies, experiences and identities of migrants?
What does the focus on the changing meanings of 'family' and
'foreignness' add to our understanding of the dynamics of gender and
migration?

These questions will be central to the FAMILIES, CONSTRUCTIONS of
FOREIGNNESS and MIGRATION in 20th CENTURY WESTERN EUROPE conference,
taking place

on May 15-16 2008
at the Faculty of Arts of KU Leuven
in Leuven, Belgium

The full programme and online registration form are now available at
http://www.kuleuven.be/mosa/conf_fcfm.htm

Programme committee:
Mary Chamberlain, Louise Ryan, Leo Lucassen, Marlou Schrover, Jan Kok,
Leen Beyers, Machteld Venken, Idesbald Goddeeris, Anne Morelli, Frank
Caestecker, Maddy Janssens

For further information:
leen.beyers [at] arts.kuleuven.be

Best wishes,
Leen Beyers
Postdoctoral researcher
MoSa (Modernity and Society 1800-2000)
Department of History
KU Leuven

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A number of IR-D members will find of interest this personal essay by
Bernard Crick, surveying as it does revisionism in 4 countries. And it
quotes Brecht, 'the laughter of free men...'

P.O'S.

The Four Nations: Interrelations

Author: CRICK, BERNARD

Source: The Political Quarterly, Volume 79, Number 1, January-March 2008 ,
pp. 71-79(9)

Publisher: Blackwell Publishing


Abstract:
Historically and contemporaneously the interrelations of the nations of the
British Isles are as important as their differentiation. Modern revisionist
historians, Irish and British, understand this better that many politicians
and publicists. Nationalism as separatism and strong national consciousness
are commonly confused when the English media consider Scotland. Gordon Brown
stresses `Britishness' to preserve the union but this is counterproductive.
All his examples of British events are English, none Scots or Welsh, and his
British values are mainly universal. A true construction of Britishness is
to see it as a strong but narrow practical legal and political framework
within which different cultures, old and new, can both flourish and
intermingle. So strong are both social and economic interrelations that
Scottish independence could be less consequential than commonly supposed.

Keywords: Nationalisms; Identities; Britishness; Scotland; Independence;
Interdependence

Document Type: Research article

DOI: 10.1111/j.1467-923X.2008.00904.x

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From: Joe Bradley [mailto:j.m.bradley[at]stir.ac.uk]=20
Sent: 02 April 2008 11:09
To: P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk

Patrick
=A0
I think this link may be of interest to the Ir-D list members.
=A0
It's a BBC Scotland documentary from last Summer looking at Orangeism in
Scotland
=A0
Joe
=A0
http://www.ulsterloyalists.co.uk/Movie/movie/mid=3D97.html

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This article offers a very sober exploration of recent changes to the
politics of sexual morality in Ireland, to quote Chrystel Hug's book =
title.
As such it looks at how honour and shame cultures can change.

Many IR-D members will be familiar with the work of Carles Salazar - =
there
is a considerable track record, very much within the discipline of
anthropology, but comfortable with the 2 wings of that discipline (the =
very
detailed observation and the very grand theorising).

There is an appreciative review by Tom Inglis of a Carles Salazar book =
on =20
http://www.anthrosource.net/doi/abs/10.1525/ae.2006.33.4.4057
Anthropology and Sexual Morality: A Theoretical Investigation. Carles
Salazar. The book is on Google Books, and a web search will find more.

Tom Inglis particularly notes a tendency of earlier commentators to read
Irish sexual practices as repressed sexuality, where Salazar sees =
culture in
action.

P.O'S.

Knowledge and discipline - knowledge as discipline: aspects of the oral
history of Irish sexuality

Author: Salazar, Carles

Source: The Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute, Volume 14,
Number 1, March 2008 , pp. 135-151(17)

Publisher: Blackwell Publishing


Abstract:
This article examines the recent history of sexual morality in rural
Ireland. My thesis is that this history can be defined as a process of
structural change in which a normative model has been replaced by a
cognitive model. Both models give rise to disciplinary systems but, I =
argue,
they differ from each other in their respective objects: whereas a =
normative
model has the body as its immediate object of discipline, in the =
cognitive
model body discipline is mediated through the individual's self. Since =
the
normative model is grounded in religious values, I consider that this
transition can be also interpreted as an instance of the process of
secularization.=20

R=E9sum=E9
L'auteur examine l'histoire r=E9cente de la moralit=E9 sexuelle dans =
l'Irlande
rurale. Sa th=E8se est que cette histoire peut =EAtre d=E9finie comme un =
processus
de changement structurel dans lequel un mod=E8le normatif a =E9t=E9 =
remplac=E9 par
un mod=E8le cognitif. Les deux mod=E8les donnent tous deux naissance =E0 =
des
syst=E8mes disciplinaires mais, de l'avis de l'auteur, ceux-ci n'ont pas =
le
m=EAme objet : alors que le mod=E8le normatif d=E9finit le corps comme =
objet
imm=E9diat de la discipline, la discipline corporelle dans le mod=E8le =
cognitif
est m=E9di=E9e par le Soi de l'individu. Dans la mesure o=F9 le mod=E8le =
normatif
est ancr=E9 dans les valeurs religieuses, l'auteur consid=E8re que cette
transition peut aussi =EAtre interpr=E9t=E9e comme une manifestation du =
processus
de s=E9cularisation.

Document Type: Research article

DOI: 10.1111/j.1467-9655.2007.00482.x

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The following title has come to our attention. Marguerite =
Quintelli-Neary,
THE IRISH AMERICAN MYTH OF THE FRONTIER WEST=20

Academica Press, LLC Box 60728 Cambridge Station Palo Alto,CA 94306
academicapress[at]gmail.com.=20



This is the first research monograph to study the interstices between =
native
Irish folklore and the emerging myth of the American West during the =
last
frontier period (1860-1890). It begins with by tracing the role of Irish
pioneers and their contributions to the westward migration and then =
examines
the many parallel developments between the myths of Ireland and those =
that
would come to define the American West. Dr Quintelli-Neary ,for =
instance,
discusses the adoption of traditional Irish music for Custer's 7th =
Cavalry
("the Garry Owen") as well as the Texas Rangers ; this reaffirms not =
only
the presence of the Irish but validates an incorporation of their =
culture in
a blending western population.

=20

By examining the trends of American western mythology through the =
exploits
of four major icons who are Irish by origin, association or =
appropriation
the author demonstrates how their adventures serve to enrich a mythology
that Americanizes them, while retaining such traditional Celtic features =
as
a cattle raid, the elopement and pursuit motif, the formation of =
vigilance
groups and the establishment of non traditional roles for female heroes. =
A
study of the historical lives of Billy the Kid, Calamity Jane, Belle =
Starr
and Jesse James as filtered through the generous imaginings of pseudo
biographers, journalists, pulp fiction writers demonstrates how little
factual history is retained in the American consciousness while the
mythology is strengthened and enlarged by images perpetuated through =
fiction
and film.

=20

Finally, the final loop of retooled mythology makes its way back to =
Ireland
where it is accepted in popular culture (music, fiction, film and dress) =
and
takes on the form of championing self government, liberty, opportunity, =
and
an idyllic agrarian culture.

=20

Contents:

1. Establishing Boundaries=20

2. At Home on the Range: Fionn MacCumhaill and Billy the Kid=20

3. Calamitous Persona: Martha Jane Cannary's Role in the Irish =
American
Frontier=20

4. The Original Starr Wars, or Tales of a Southern Belle and a =
Bandit
Queen=20

5. The "Irishness" of Jesse James=20

6. Enabling the Myth

=20

Bill Mulligan=20

William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D.
Professor of History
Graduate Program Coordinator
Murray State University
Murray KY 42071-3341 USA
Office: 1-270-809-6571
Fax: 1-270-809-6587



=20

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Hope I am not picking at a thirteen-year-old scab in asking this, but could
someone point me to important critiques (methodological, historiographic,
etc.) of Noel Ignatiev's " How the Irish Became White" (1995) ?

Thanks all

Jim Rogers

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Hello Michael (and Piaras),
I would agree with you about the need for further study on
Irish(-American) identity and integration, although there have been a number
of pieces on that topic that have appeared during the last decade or so.
Whether you're looking for social scientific studies or historical work
(which I would argue often utilizes social scientific materials), *New
Directions in Irish American History* (edited by Kevin Kenny) offers quite a
few well-developed essays on the topic. At the risk of engaging in
self-promotion, I would also recommend that you check out the collections of
essays that Jim Rogers and I are editing on Irish America during the
mid-twentieth century, prospectively titled *After the Flood*. The 1940s
and '50s were a crucial period in the articulation of a distinctive
Irish-American identity, and we have been fortunate to draw
contributions from scholars in a number of different disciplines. The
target date for publication (the summer of 2009) is still a ways off and
there's still much work to be done, but we'll save a copy for you, Michael!
All the best,
Matt O'Brien

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Patrick O'Sullivan wrote:

> From: MICHAEL CURRAN [mailto:michaeljcurran[at]btinternet.com]
> Subject: RE: The disappearing Irish migrants.
>
>
> A Phadraig a chara
>
> Greetings from Belfast.
>
>
> I'm amazed at the hullaboloo caused by a factual US
> newspaper article.
>
> Those of us who study Irish migration scientifically,
> are well aware of the fact that the number of
> Irish-born in mainland UK (now 500,000 approx.),and
> In the USA (250,000 approx), has more than halved in
> The past 10 years. Census data from 1991 and 2001/2
> Verify that.
>
> Nostalgia and anecdotal evidence tend to cloud the
> real issue. Those agencies seeking funding from the
> Irish government departments, have to deny the fact
> that the number of Irish-born 'across the water' -
> both east and west of this island - is rapidly
> decreasing or disappearing.
>
> The modern migration phenomenon, as well as Irish
> identity and integration themes would be well worth
> exploring by the social-scientists at the
> forthcoming ACIS conference in Davenport IA!
>
> Slan
>
> Michael J Curran
>
>
>
>

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Perhaps Kevin Kenny would know.

Interesting question. Spencer might have tried to approach Gowan, or
at least to discuss the issue, with the British ambassador and/or
consuls (maybe in Philadelphia, perhaps the nearest?). Hence, you
might look at the UK diplomatic/consular correspondence--a goldmine.

I've always wondered if Franklin Gowan was related to the "Orange"
Gowans of Wexford and Ontario. Thoughts?

Kerby




>From: Patrick Maume
>pmaume[at]googlemail.com
>
>In connection with my research for the DICTIONARY OF IRISH BIOGRAPHY I have
>been looking at Peter Gordon (ed.) THE RED EARL: THE PAPERS OF THE 5TH EARL
>SPENCER 1835-1910 (Northamptonshire Record Society, 2 vols., 1981-6).
>Spencer was Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland under Gladstone's first tow
>governments in 1868-74 and 1882-5. In his second term he presided over a
>security crackdown on separatist and agrarian secret societies in response
>to the Phoenix Park Murders.
>
>Volume I p.217 reprints a 21 July 1882 letter from Gladstone to Spencer in
>which Gladstone mentions that he has been reading a book on the suppression
>of the Pennsylvania Molly Maguires. He suggests that since the situation in
>Pennsylvania at the time (as described by Franklin Gowan, the mining company
>executive who oversaw the repression of the Molly Maguires), involving an
>Irish secret society in an Irish-populated district, seems very similar to
>that which the Government is currently facing in Ireland, it might be a good
>idea for the GOvernment to get in touch with Gowan and see if he is prepared
>to assist them by advice or otherwise.
>
>Have any of the American books on the Molly Maguires picked up this
>reference? Does anyone know if the British Government did in fact try to
>establish contact with Gowan?
>
>Best wishes,
>Patrick

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Dear Jim,

In my opinion, the three most useful critiques of Ignatiev (and whiteness=
historical studies) remain:

Arnesen, Eric. =93Whiteness and the Historians=92 Imagination=94, Intern=
ational Labor and Working-Class History, vol. 60 (Fall 2001), pp. 3-21.

Kenny, Kevin. =93Diaspora and Comparison: The Global Irish as a Case Stu=
dy=94, The Journal of American History, vol. 90, issue 1 (June 2003).

Kolchin, Peter. =93Whiteness Studies: The New History of Race in America=
=94, The Journal of American History, vol. 89 (June 2002), pp. 154-173.

A common complaint amongst all three is that Ignatiev and Roediger et ali=
a fail to ask what the Irish thought of themselves and rely instead on wh=
at others thought of the Irish. To address this major gap, I am currentl=
y working on a PhD dissertation entitled "Did the Irish 'Become White'? R=
ace and Migration in Ireland, Australia, and the United States, 1842 - 18=
77". In it I analyze how Irish racial descriptions of themselves and oth=
ers changed over time and space. Specifically, I examine the manuscripts=
and newspapers of the Young Irelanders on their adventures from Ireland =
to Van Diemen's Land to the USA in the mid-nineteenth century. I expect =
to finish the dissertation next spring.

Hope this helps,

Cian McMahon
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA




> Hope I am not picking at a thirteen-year-old scab in asking this, but
> could someone point me to important critiques (methodological,
> historiographic, etc.) of Noel Ignatiev's " How the Irish Became White=
"
> (1995) ?
>=20
> Thanks all
>=20
> Jim Rogers
>=20
>=20
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From: Patrick Maume
pmaume[at]googlemail.com

In connection with my research for the DICTIONARY OF IRISH BIOGRAPHY I have
been looking at Peter Gordon (ed.) THE RED EARL: THE PAPERS OF THE 5TH EARL
SPENCER 1835-1910 (Northamptonshire Record Society, 2 vols., 1981-6).
Spencer was Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland under Gladstone's first tow
governments in 1868-74 and 1882-5. In his second term he presided over a
security crackdown on separatist and agrarian secret societies in response
to the Phoenix Park Murders.

Volume I p.217 reprints a 21 July 1882 letter from Gladstone to Spencer in
which Gladstone mentions that he has been reading a book on the suppression
of the Pennsylvania Molly Maguires. He suggests that since the situation in
Pennsylvania at the time (as described by Franklin Gowan, the mining company
executive who oversaw the repression of the Molly Maguires), involving an
Irish secret society in an Irish-populated district, seems very similar to
that which the Government is currently facing in Ireland, it might be a good
idea for the GOvernment to get in touch with Gowan and see if he is prepared
to assist them by advice or otherwise.

Have any of the American books on the Molly Maguires picked up this
reference? Does anyone know if the British Government did in fact try to
establish contact with Gowan?

Best wishes,
Patrick

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This article runs a bit around the houses and is, for the most part, an
exploration and translation of one Andalusian zazal text.

The 'zazalesque' Old Irish text is Cuchulain's lament for Ferdiad, from =
the
Tain. The sources are mostly quite old - Dillon, Sigerson - but the =
author
does acknowledge the help of a colleague, Daniel F. Melia. The argument =
is
therefore that there possibly was a pre-existing European verse =
structure
into which the Arabic language, subject matter and approach was =
poured...

P.O'S.

Literary Hybridization in the Zajal: Ibn Quzm=E2n's Zajal 88 (The Visit =
of Sir
Gold)

Author: Monroe, James T.1

Source: Journal of Arabic Literature, Volume 38, Number 3, 2008 , pp.
324-351(28)

Publisher: BRILL

Abstract:
This article examines Ibn Quzm=E2n's Zajal 88 from the vantage point of =
recent
theoretical studies on the various manifestations of intercultural
hybridization. On the basis of an Old Irish zajalesque text, it draws
attention to the possibility that the zajal genre may well have existed =
in
Europe as early as the ninth century AD, if not earlier, in the seventh,
thereby suggesting that previously proposed Eastern, Arabic sources for =
the
origin of that genre are unlikely=97at least, insofar as its strophic
structure is concerned. In contrast, the literary materials out of which =
the
zajal is composed are, in the case of this poem (and many others by the =
same
author), largely borrowed from the Classical Arabic qas=EEda, although =
they
are subverted in a comic and parodic manner. This burlesque approach, in
turn, allows the author to criticize the cupidity and insincerity of
contemporary poets, at a time when the poet-patron relationship was
undergoing a severe crisis in Andalus. An analysis of the poem's =
thematic
structure further reveals it to be a tightly knit masterpiece, based on =
that
form of chiastic patterning known to literary critics as ring =
composition,
commonly found, not only in the Colloquial zajal of Ibn Quzm=E2n, but =
also in
Classical Arabic poetry. Finally, such a conclusion further helps to =
dispel
that now largely discredited, if still not entirely abandoned view,
according to which medieval Arabic poetry is a disorderly, line-by-line
agglomerate of random and incoherent thoughts poorly organized into a =
whole.

Keywords: AM=C9RICO CASTRO; DOMINANT CULTURE; DOMINATED CULTURE;
HYBRIDIZATION; "LIBRO DE BUEN AMOR"; MATERIALS; MOSQUE; MUD=C9JAR; =
MUSAMMAT;
MUWA=D0=D0AHA; QAS=CEDA; RING COMPOSITION; STRUCTURE; ZAJAL

Document Type: Research article

DOI: 10.1163/157006408X292943

Affiliations: 1: University of California, Berkeley

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Add to these critiques of Ignatiev and whiteness studies Chapter 4=2C =22=
Irish Americans and Race=22 in Tim Meagher=27s The Columbia Guide to Iri=
sh American History (2005)=2E

Marion R=2E Casey
Glucksman Ireland House
New York University


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From=3A Cian McMahon =3Ccianm=40ANDREW=2ECMU=2EEDU=3E
Date=3A Thursday=2C April 3=2C 2008 10=3A31 am
Subject=3A Re=3A =5BIR-D=5D Ignatiev
To=3A IR-D=40JISCMAIL=2EAC=2EUK


=3E Dear Jim=2C
=3E =

=3E In my opinion=2C the three most useful critiques of Ignatiev (and =

=3E whiteness historical studies) remain=3A
=3E =

=3E Arnesen=2C Eric=2E =93Whiteness and the Historians=92 Imagination=94=
=2C =

=3E International Labor and Working-Class History=2C vol=2E 60 (Fall 200=
1)=2C =

=3E pp=2E 3-21=2E
=3E =

=3E Kenny=2C Kevin=2E =93Diaspora and Comparison=3A The Global Irish a=
s a Case =

=3E Study=94=2C The Journal of American History=2C vol=2E 90=2C issue 1 =
(June 2003)=2E
=3E =

=3E Kolchin=2C Peter=2E =93Whiteness Studies=3A The New History of Rac=
e in =

=3E America=94=2C The Journal of American History=2C vol=2E 89 (June 200=
2)=2C pp=2E 154-173=2E
=3E =

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Thanks Bill - that looks like a fascinating book. For comparison one
might consider the myth of Ned Kelly in Australia, whose Irish origins
are emphasised in Peter Carey's (to my mind) brilliant novel /The True
History of the Kelly Gang/. Since it was based on Kelly's /Jerilderie
Letter /(narrated to a friend since Kelly himself was illiterate),
enthusiasts of the Irish language will find plenty of grist for their
mill. There's also a lot about oppositional politics and cultural
identity, and the myth of Kelly is very strong in the Australian
tradition. (Some might remember the oversized Kelly helmets on display
in the Sydney 2000 Olympics opening ceremony.)

One difference might be the extent of mythopoetic "feedback" to Ireland
- is anyone aware of any knowledge/awareness of our Ned in Ireland? I
suspect he has not enjoyed the same currency as some of
Quintelli-Neary's subjects....

Cheers
Chad

William Mulligan Jr. wrote:
> The following title has come to our attention. Marguerite Quintelli-Neary,
> THE IRISH AMERICAN MYTH OF THE FRONTIER WEST
>
> Academica Press, LLC Box 60728 Cambridge Station Palo Alto,CA 94306
> academicapress[at]gmail.com.
>
>
>
> This is the first research monograph to study the interstices between native
> Irish folklore and the emerging myth of the American West during the last
> frontier period (1860-1890). It begins with by tracing the role of Irish
> pioneers and their contributions to the westward migration and then examines
> the many parallel developments between the myths of Ireland and those that
> would come to define the American West. Dr Quintelli-Neary ,for instance,
> discusses the adoption of traditional Irish music for Custer's 7th Cavalry
> ("the Garry Owen") as well as the Texas Rangers ; this reaffirms not only
> the presence of the Irish but validates an incorporation of their culture in
> a blending western population.
>
>
>
> By examining the trends of American western mythology through the exploits
> of four major icons who are Irish by origin, association or appropriation
> the author demonstrates how their adventures serve to enrich a mythology
> that Americanizes them, while retaining such traditional Celtic features as
> a cattle raid, the elopement and pursuit motif, the formation of vigilance
> groups and the establishment of non traditional roles for female heroes. A
> study of the historical lives of Billy the Kid, Calamity Jane, Belle Starr
> and Jesse James as filtered through the generous imaginings of pseudo
> biographers, journalists, pulp fiction writers demonstrates how little
> factual history is retained in the American consciousness while the
> mythology is strengthened and enlarged by images perpetuated through fiction
> and film.
>
>
>
> Finally, the final loop of retooled mythology makes its way back to Ireland
> where it is accepted in popular culture (music, fiction, film and dress) and
> takes on the form of championing self government, liberty, opportunity, and
> an idyllic agrarian culture.
>
>
>
> Contents:
>
> 1. Establishing Boundaries
>
> 2. At Home on the Range: Fionn MacCumhaill and Billy the Kid
>
> 3. Calamitous Persona: Martha Jane Cannary's Role in the Irish American
> Frontier
>
> 4. The Original Starr Wars, or Tales of a Southern Belle and a Bandit
> Queen
>
> 5. The "Irishness" of Jesse James
>
> 6. Enabling the Myth
>
>
>
> Bill Mulligan
>
> William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D.
> Professor of History
> Graduate Program Coordinator
> Murray State University
> Murray KY 42071-3341 USA
> Office: 1-270-809-6571
> Fax: 1-270-809-6587
>
>
>
>
>

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Subject: RE: [IR-D] Ignatiev
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:18:56 +0100
From: "Walter, Bronwen"
To: "The Irish Diaspora Studies List"

Dear Jim
=20
In my book 'Outsiders inside: whiteness, place and Irish women' I =
critique
Ignatiev, Roediger, Allen and others for leaving Irish women out of the
equation in the US and tentatively suggest alternative routes to =
whiteness
when they are considered.=20
=20
As this was very exploratory, and based entirely on secondary sources, I =
have
been waiting for these ideas to be developed and/or re-written by other
scholars. But as yet there has been very little response, apart from a
footnote by Kevin Kenny. I'd be interested to hear your take, although =
this
is again largely an outside rather than inside perspective.
=20
All the best
=20
Bronwen Walter

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Dear Jim,

In my opinion, the three most useful critiques of Ignatiev (and =
whiteness
historical studies) remain:

Arnesen, Eric. "Whiteness and the Historians' Imagination", =
International
Labor and Working-Class History, vol. 60 (Fall 2001), pp. 3-21.

Kenny, Kevin. "Diaspora and Comparison: The Global Irish as a Case =
Study",
The Journal of American History, vol. 90, issue 1 (June 2003).

Kolchin, Peter. "Whiteness Studies: The New History of Race in =
America", The
Journal of American History, vol. 89 (June 2002), pp. 154-173.

A common complaint amongst all three is that Ignatiev and Roediger et =
alia
fail to ask what the Irish thought of themselves and rely instead on =
what
others thought of the Irish. To address this major gap, I am currently
working on a PhD dissertation entitled "Did the Irish 'Become White'? =
Race
and Migration in Ireland, Australia, and the United States, 1842 - =
1877". In
it I analyze how Irish racial descriptions of themselves and others =
changed
over time and space. Specifically, I examine the manuscripts and =
newspapers
of the Young Irelanders on their adventures from Ireland to Van Diemen's =
Land
to the USA in the mid-nineteenth century. I expect to finish the
dissertation next spring.

Hope this helps,

Cian McMahon
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA

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Subject: Whiteness
Email Patrick O'Sullivan

Can I also recommend...

1.
An exchange that took place in...

Journal of British Studies 44 (January 2005)

The Whiteness of Ireland Under and After the Union
G. K. Peatling

Roundtable
Comment: The Return of Revisionism
L. Perry Curtis, Jr.

Comment: Whiteness and the Liverpool Irish
John Belchem

Comment: Whiteness and Irish Experience in North America
David A. Wilson
Citation-Full Text-PDF Version (60 kB)

A Response to the Commentators
G. K. Peatling


2.
Some recent comment, and attempts to bring the debate to this side of =
the Atlantic...

Annual Review of Sociology
Vol. 31: 245-261 (Volume publication date August 2005)
WHITE RACIAL AND ETHNIC IDENTITY IN THE UNITED STATES
Monica McDermott and =C2=AD Frank L. Samson=C2=AD

=E2=96=AA Abstract This review examines research on white racial and =
ethnic identity, paying special attention to developments in whiteness =
studies during the past decade. Although sociologists have long focused =
on white ethnic identity, considerations of white racial identity are =
more recent. White racial identity is commonly portrayed as a default =
racial category, an invisible yet privileged identity formed by =
centuries of oppression of nonwhite groups. Whiteness has become =
synonymous with privilege in much scholarly writing, although recent =
empirical work strives to consider white racial identity as a complex, =
situated identity rather than a monolithic one. The study of white =
racial identity can greatly benefit from moving away from simply naming =
whiteness as an overlooked, privileged identity and by paying closer =
attention to empirical studies of racial and ethnic identity by those =
studying social movements, ethnic identity, and social psychology.

International Labor and Working-Class History (2001), 60: 3-32 =
Cambridge University Press
SCHOLARLY CONTROVERSY: WHITENESS AND THE HISTORIANS' IMAGINATION=09
Whiteness and the Historians' Imagination 1
Eric Arnesen=20

Sociological Forum
Volume 22 Issue 2 Page 232-241, June 2007
Book Review
Whiteness Just Isn=E2=80=99t Enough
Richard Alba

3.
A new scholarly game, in Google Scholar...

Put in something like

'Ignatiev How the Irish Became White'

You get 561 citations - which actually does not seem enough...

You can see Ignatiev quoted, often almost in an aside, to make a general =
point...

'Whiteness' gets you about 150,000 citations...

Paddy

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Conference schedule below.=A0 Full details are on
www.irishtheatricaldiaspora.org/
=A0
Th=E9=E2tres fran=E7ais et irlandais: influences et interactions /=20
French and Irish Theatres=A0: Influences and interactions

Les 13 et 14 juin 2007

13/06 =96 campus Lille III

VA ET VIENT=A0: INFLUENCES CROISEES / COME AND GO=A0: =
CROSS-FERTILISATION

9h=A0: ouverture du colloque / conference opening

9h30-10h=A0: Pascal Aquien=A0: =93Sardoodledom revisited, or a few =
trivial remarks
about Oscar Wilde=92s An Ideal Husband (1895)=94
10h-10h30=A0: Shaun Richards: =93Synge and the =91Savage God=92=94
10h30-10h45 : discussion

Pause / coffee break

11h15-11h45=A0: Brian Singleton=A0: =93The Performance of Artaud in =
Ireland=94
11h45-12h15=A0: Wesley Hutchinson: =A0=93 =AB=A0Un point =
d=92interrogation qui se
voudrait =E9criture=A0=BB : Gatti=92s Maze=94
12h15-12h30=A0: discussion

12h30 D=E9jeuner =E0 l=92Universit=E9

D=92UNE LANGUE A L=92AUTRE=A0: TRADUCTIONS ET ADAPTATIONS / PLAYS IN =
TRANSLATION

14h30-15h=A0: Alexandra Poulain: =93=91Lady Gregory s=92en va t=92en =
guerre=92=A0: the
Kiltartan Moli=E8re=A0=94
15h-15h30=A0: Michael West=A0: =93Translating Moli=E8re=94
15h30-15h45=A0: discussion

Pause / coffee break
=20
16h15-16h45: Julie Vatain=A0: =93Face to face in word and translation: =
playing
with words and playing with accents in two scenes by Oscar Wilde and G. =
B.
Shaw=94
16h45-17h15: Isabelle Famchon=A0: =AB=A0Traduire la diff=E9rence=A0=BB
17h15-30: discussion

18h30=A0: Spectacle - Molloy, Gare St Lazare Players=A0(Th=E9=E2tre des =
Passerelles,
campus Lille III)

D=EEner au restaurant=20

14/06 =96 Th=E9=E2tre du Nord (petite salle)

BECKETT IRLANDAIS, BECKETT FRAN=C7AIS / FRENCH BECKETT, IRISH BECKETT

9h30-10h=A0: Helen Astbury: =93Rough for Theatre I and II and why they =
stayed
that way, or when Beckett=92s French theatre became Irish again.=94
10h-10h30=A0: Nicholas Grene: =93The Hibernicization of En Attendant =
Godot.=94
10h30-11h=A0: Anna McMullan: =93Staging metamorphosis: selected Irish =
and French
stage adaptations of Beckett=92s prose.=94
11h-11h15=A0: discussion

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11h45=A0: Table ronde / round table=A0: Stuart Seide, Nathalie Kourouma, =
les
Gare St Lazare Players

D=E9jeuner=A0: buffet au Th=E9=E2tre / lunch at the Th=E9=E2tre du Nord

14/06 PM =96 Th=E9=E2tre du Nord (petite salle)

RENCONTRES=A0: COLLABORATIONS FRANCO-IRLANDAISES / DOING IT TOGETHER=A0:
COLLABORATIVE PRODUCTIONS

14h-14h40=A0: E-J Dumay & Kazem Shahryari=A0: =93Traduire et mettre en =
sc=E8ne
Dermott Bolger=94
14h40-15h20=A0: Cathy Leeney & Mikel Murfi: =93Under the Influence - =
Lecoq, the
Body, and the Irish=94
15h20-15h40=A0: discussion

Pause / coffee break

16h-18h=A0: Table ronde / round table: Guy-Pierre Couleau, Stuart Seide,
Christian Schiaretti, Michael West

18h30 Lecture: morceaux choisis du th=E9=E2tre irlandais, mise en espace =
de
Stuart Seide / reading=A0: extracts from Irish plays in translation, =
directed
by Stuart Seide

20h Cocktail au th=E9=E2tre =96 cl=F4ture du colloque/ cocktail at the =
theatre =96
conference closing

Organisation committee=A0:=20
Alexandra Poulain (alexandra.poulain[at]univ-lille3.fr)=20
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I'd be very interested in learning how to buy a copy for my class.
Thanks,
Kerby



>Email Patrick O'Sullivan
>
>Amongst the films I saw at Lance Pettitt's little film festival in Leeds
>last month was this one, about the Harvest Emergency of 1946.
>
>Details below...
>
>The core of Liam Wylie's film is some colour footage dating from 1946, and
>discovered in a shed. Newspaper headlines and extracts give this footage a
>context, and interviews with living volunteers add extra dimensions.
>
>It is a very nice piece of work. The 1946 footage is fascinating - a
>combination of the kind of film stock used and the influence of Soviet
>Realism? It looks like outtakes from The Quiet Man. What strikes you now
>is how healthy the people look...
>
>I am in negotiation with film maker Liam Wylie about getting hold of some
>dvds. He is not convinced that there is enough interest to warrant a
>commercial release - but technologies change...
>
>P.O'S.
>
>Monday 10 March
>
>Feature: Harvest Emergency (1997 Liam Wylie, 51mins)
>Speaker: Liam Wylie (RTE)
>Location: Electric Press, Millennium Square, Leeds
>
>The summer of 1946 saw Irish crops threatened by adverse weather conditions
>provoking massed volunteers from the city rallying to save the harvest. As
>these unique events unfolded they became the subject of an attempt by film
>pioneers Colm O'Laoghaire and Kevin O'Kelly to record it on celluloid.
>Remarkable luminous colour footage is edited into a documentary about an
>important social and cinematic moment. Film maker and archivist Liam Wylie
>introduces the film and leads discussion on the issues raised.