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24 November 1998 11:47  
  
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:47:04 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
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What I did in my holidays...

Last weekend I was in London. And was taken along to a milieu quite
outside my usual experience, the Antique Dealers' Fair at Olympia.
Olympia is a huge exhibition hall in the centre of London. And there
there were vast displays of many odd and some beautiful objects - with
extraordinary price tags attached.

Two items...

1. A large painting by John Eaton Walker, from about 1840 - apparently
this man practised in Birmingham and in London. The painting is
entitled - this is copied from a label on the back - 'O'Keeffe the Irish
outlaw discovering the perfidy of his mistress vide ballard poetry of
Ireland'.

O'Keeffe himself is a Rob-Roy-ish figure, standing stage right, in a
posture of astonished outrage - whilst the mistress voluptuates across a
chaise-longue. This is very much a C19th genre painting, and not a
remarkably good painting. The dealers wanted me to admire the skilful
brush work in the depiction of the gold goblet - whilst I was making an
inventory of Irish bandit iconography. (I often find this with art folk
- - they want to discuss technique, I want to discuss content.)

So, this painting has (sort of) Irish content, but is not by an Irish
artist. But what is the story of O'Keeffe and the perfidious mistress?
- - it is not anything in Thomas Moore, that I can recall. Where had the
painter come across his story?

2. Two large - well over 1 metre tall - statues of dogs, made from a
brick-red terracotta material. The dogs are perched on shaped ridge
tiles, of the same red material, and were evidently meant to be the
finials of some big house. Hairy dogs, evidently hounds, and maybe even
wolfhounds. And when I enquired of their provenance I was told by this
dealer that the hounds had indeed 'come from Ireland'.

The hounds are modelled with some panache. They look nineteenth
century. We know - for example, from the work of the O'Shea brothers in
Oxford - that there were certainly artisan artists in Ireland in that
period. The red material suggests perhaps a brick works/tile makers
that was trying to diversify - in England local ceramics manufacturers
tried to diversify by making sculptural objects. It was the work of
Charles Orser that made me want to know more about local Irish pots and
potteries - they've been very little studied.

The hounds were being presented by the dealers as attractive sculptural
objects - they've been mounted on plinths. And priced accordingly.
They seemed to me to be an intriguing part of Ireland's cultural
heritage - and I wanted to know more.

Paddy O'Sullivan





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26 November 1998 10:47  
  
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:47:04 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Elizabeth Malcolm" <elm[at]lineone.net> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
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In response to Kerby Miller's request for more information.

The two books I mentioned are:

Pat O'Mara, 'The autobiography of a Liverpool Irish slummy', London: Martin
Hopkinson Ltd, 1934 and
Pat O'Mara, 'Irish slummy in America', London: Martin Hopkinson Ltd, 1935.

As Paddy indicated, the second book largely consists of an account of
O'Mara's experiences as a taxi driver in Baltimore. (By the way, having
recently been driven round in circles by a non-English speaking taxi driver
in London and having experienced many foreign taxi drivers in Australia and
the U.S., I wonder if anyone has seriously studied taxi driving as an
occupation for immigrants - Irish or otherwise?) Does anyone know anything
about O'Mara, aside from what is in his books? He appears to have been
born around 1900, but some of the chronology in the books doesn't seem to
add up to me and I am wondering how true they are.

The thesis I mentioned is: Martha Kanya-Forstner, Gender, ethnicity and the
politics of poverty: Irish women in Victorian Liverpool, unpublished Ph.D.
thesis, University of Liverpool, 1997.

Elizabeth Malcolm
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26 November 1998 10:47  
  
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:47:04 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
Ir-D IASIL, Barcelona, 1999
  
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IASIL, the International Association for the Study of Irish Literatures,
has announced its next Conference and has issued a Call for Papers...

The 1999 Conference will be in Barcelona, 26-29 July 1999, organised by
El Departament de Filologia Anglesa i Alemanya.

The theme is...
Irish Literatures at Century's End

Sub-themes include History and Politics in Irish Literatures, Irish
Literatures and Europe, Utopia and Dystopia, Gender, Cinema, Teaching
Irish Literatures, etc., etc.

Deadline for proposals: January 8 1999

Contact person: Jacqueline Hurtley


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26 November 1998 10:47  
  
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:47:04 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
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Forwarded on behalf of

Conor macCarthy

The Autumn meeting of the North West Irish Cultural Studies Group will
be at the Institute of Irish Studies, 1 Abercromby Square, Liverpool, on
December 2 at 7.30 pm. As usual two short papers will be given:

Professor Marianne Elliott, Director, Institute of Irish Studies
Community Relations in C19th Ulster

Michael Parker, Liverpool Hope University College
'Opened Ground'? Northern Irish Fiction since the Ceasefire

There will be an opportunity to meet other colleagues over a glass of
wine after the formal part of the meeting.

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26 November 1998 11:47  
  
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:47:04 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
Ir-D History Ireland, Winter 1998
  
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History Ireland, Vol. 6, No. 4, Winter 1998, is now being distributed.

This issue is a good read, though there are not many items of specific
interest to Irish Diaspora Studies. The main articles are

'Ireland and the European Reformation', Karl S. Bottigheimer (State U of
New York) and Ute Lotz-Heumann (Humboldt U, Berlin). Makes the
perfectly valid point that Ireland was not the only place in Europe
where the post-Reformation principle _cuius regio, eius religio_ did not
apply. But the main examples given - Lutheran Brandenburg or Lemgo
resisting their ruler's Calvinism - do not cross the Protestant/Catholic
divide. The authors arguments might have been developed further if they
had looked at other examples of Catholic resistance to surrounding
Protestantism - eg the Catholics of Zurich.

'Lord Edward Fitgerald: the creation of an icon', Fintan Cullen - looks
at the woodcuts and the paintings, and subsequent use made of them.

'Nelson's Pillar: a controversy that ran & ran', Micheal O Riain. The
history of the Dublin landmark, its creation and its irritating presence
until its partial destruction by explosives by 'a group of young men' in
March 1966. 'Someone knows the truth... No one is talking...'

As a young man in Dublin in the early 1960s I climbed up the internal
stairway to the top of Nelson's Column, and admired the view. Nowadays
in Dublin I look at an empty space in the sky and think, I once stood
there. Spooky.

'Carnegie Libraries in Ireland', Brendan Grimes. Interesting survey of
some charming buildings, with some account of Carnegie's procedures.

'In Our Own Image: the branding of industrial Ireland', Bernard Shane.
Survey of Irish brand names throughout this century, with small section
on Irish language in advertising - some names leapt the language
boundary, eg Aer Lingus but not Cumann Luthchleas Gael.

'The Statute Staple in Early Modern Ireland', Jane Ohlmeyer. The
'staple', initially a C13th century organisation of trade in basic
goods, became a sure way for traders to recover debts. Loans were
recorded - three registers, covering 1596-1637, 1664-78, have survived
and have been made into a computerised CD-Rom database. One pattern to
emerge is the decline in economic power of Catholic gentry.

'Exhibiting 1798: Three recent exhibitions', Elizabeth Crooke.
Exhibitions in Belfast, Dublin and Enniscorthy contrasted.

Reviews
McGuinness, Harrison, Kearney, eds., John Toland's Christinaity Not
Mysterious: text, associated work and critical essays. Lengthy review
by Charles Ludington.

Connolly, ed., Oxford Comp to Irish History. Quite critical review by
Michael O Siochni - eg Thomas Preston entry 3 dates wrong.

Dungan, They Shall Not Grow Old: Irish Soldiers and the Great War.
Review by Timothy Bowman. Again critical. Too much use of Putkowski &
Sykes, no use of Fitzpatrick or Tom Dooley. Looks briefly at Irish in
Anzac forces, but no corresponding assessment of Irish in Canadian or US
armies. But a popular, lively history.

McGurk, The Elizabethan Conquest of Ireland; the 1590s Crisis.
Ecstatic Review by Vincent Carey. Quarrels only with the title - this
is really a book about the distorting effects of the Irish wars on
England, 'a plague sent against the English', 'England's Vietnam...'

I recently had a letter from John McGurk, now retired from Liverpool to
County Mayo. This book will most probably be his last major
contribution, and it is deeply pleasing to see that it has been so well
received. Deservedly well received.

Patrick O'Sullivan
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26 November 1998 19:47  
  
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 19:47:04 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
Ir-D Bibliography of translations
  
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A bibliography of literature translated from Irish Gaelic into other
languages has been compiled by Professor Nollaig Mac Congail and
Gearoidin Ui Nia of the National University of Ireland, Galway. The
bibliography is designed to assist those undertaking Irish Studies
courses who are not able to read the works in the original, and it
can be accessed at
http://www.library.ucg.ie/bibltran/index

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27 November 1998 10:09  
  
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:09:50 PST Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
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I have a chapter in an advanced state of preparation, working title:
'Transformations of the Quiet Man'.

And I have a problem...

The idea of the piece is that I take the 3 texts of The Quiet Man, and
explore the different ways in which the story is used, and the meanings
of the different versions for their creators.

Text 1 is the original Maurice Walsh short story, which appeared in the
Saturday Evening Post, USA, in February 1933 (it also appeared in
Chamber's Journal). This short story is a dour little thing - almost a
work of ethnography.

It was this story that - according to legend - John Ford came across in
an old copy of the Post during a visit to the barber shop. Anyway, Ford
bought the movie rights to the story in 1936.

Text 2. Meanwhile Maurice Walsh recycled the story - as writers do -
and it became a chapter in his 1935 portmanteu novel, Green Rushes.
Green Rushes is most probably Walsh's best novel, a dark story of a
group of IRA men, and one woman, coming to terms with their memories of
the War of Independence, and, in effect, finding ways to forgive
themselves. Finding peace. Each member of the group is allotted his
own story - the story of the one woman linking all. And all this makes
the chapter on The Quiet Man, already dour, even darker.

Text 3 is the 1952 John Ford movie, The Quiet Man - the realisation of
Ford's long-cherished project. Those who know the movie well will
realise that elements of Walsh's 1935 novel have crept into the movie -
in the persons of the two podgy young men in jodhpurs, representing the
IRA. This, apparently, as a consequence of a specific instruction from
Ford to his scriptwriter, Frank Nugent.

And already this compare and contrast approach brings insights - Walsh,
the returned economic migrant, reflecting on the violent origins of the
state he helped to stabilise, Ford the Irish-American creating a mythic
'timeless' Ireland, darkness becomes light, horrid violence becomes
comic violence. But there are poetic truths in Ford's film -
specifically in the ways in which deep cultural changes are made
manifest, in film style, as personality clashes.

My problem is that I can't find the origins of what Sherian Gilley - in
conversation - has called 'the extraordinary ecclesiastical sub-plot'.
Whereby the lovable Cathoic priest (Ward Bond) helps save the job of the
Protestant clergyman (Arthur Shields). One of the might engines driving
Irish history - Catholic/Protestant conflict - is uncoupled. There is
nothing like this in anything by Maurice Walsh.

It turns out that there was a Text 4.

If Ford liked working with someone he tended to try to drag them from
project to project. Thus, Ford had trained up the scriptwriter Nugent
on the cavalry movies, and brough him back to work on The Quiet Man.

Ford had liked working with Richard Llewellyn, the Welsh novelist, on
How Green Was My Valley. Ford gave the Quiet Man short story to
Llewellyn, and asked him to work it up into a novella.

(This is not an unusual pracice in movie-making. Short stories tend to
bring not enough narrative stuff to the movie - novels bring too much.
And a novella is written to bring the narrative to the desired length.)

There are lovable Catholic priests in Llewellyn novels - but I have to
say I have not read all of Llewellyn novels. I am wondering if the
ecclesiastical subplot came from Llewellyn. And I wonder what happened
to the novella version of The Quiet Man.

Patrick O'Sullivan
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27 November 1998 12:44  
  
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:44:12 PST Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: Patrick Maume <P.Maume[at]Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
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From: Patrick Maume
Speaking of the IRA and THE QUIET MAN, Richard English's new biography of
Ernie O'Malley mentions his work with Ford as an adviser on the film but doesn't
go into much detail about his actual contribution.
I think there are earlier literary versions of the story about a priest lending his
congregation to a Protestant minister for a special occasion, though I can't think of
specific references. I also remember - again without specific references - seeing a
review of the film in a contemporary Catholic journal which was outraged at the idea
that a priest would get his parishioners to attend a Protestant church under any
circumstances. (This of course was the era of Douglas Hyde's funeral - by the
way, was the rule enforced as strictly in America as it was in Ireland? I remember
coming across claims that NE TEMERE was enforced more strictly in Ireland than
in Britain.)


Patrick Maume
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27 November 1998 18:28  
  
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:28:38 EST Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: FNeal33544[at]aol.com Subject: Ir-D Harvesters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.b17120B1985.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
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Thanks Ultan for the reference re harvesters.If I come across any refs to
canal building and the Irish,I will let you know.

Frank Neal
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27 November 1998 18:30  
  
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:30:30 +0000 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: ultan cowley <navviesonthetiles[at]tinet.ie> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
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APROPOS of Frank Neal's request for `press references' to antagonism
between by English agricultural workers towards Irish harvesters, I
recently found the following in THE COUNTRYMAN BOOK, JW ROBERTSON
SCOTT,Oldhams press, London, 1948, p. 160 :
`A GRAVE DIGGER'S DIARY,1763-1831' - kept over 17 years, between 1814 &
1831...
`August 1824 ...On Sunday next we had a mob of 30 of our men Rison upon the
irish men all our Men had Bludgins in their hands But our Farmers Joseph
Payen Samuel Swannell Joseph Swannell Made pease'.

In my own research into the history of the Irish navvies I have frequently
found reference to Irish harvesters being attacked by English navvies but
haven't made notes on such. Hostility between English agricultural labourers
and 19C. English navvies seems to have been widespread ("I'll give 'ee
sixpence if you'll show me your tail", English rustic to author's English
navvy father, Sullivan, Dick, NAVVYMAN, 1984).

While I'm on the subject, there seems to be little written about the
crossover from harvester to navvy (apart from MacGill) yet that must have
been a natural tendency. Old Irish navvies I've interviewed who `came over'
in the `Twenties all began their careers in England as harvesters, some
following the agricultural cycle from June to December, and then going to
`The Smoke' and `into oul' headin's' (construction tunnels) for the winter.

By the way, does anyone have any hard evidence for the presence of Irishmen
on the 18th C. English canals ? Like so much else covered by the Irish
claim that `we built Britain', it seems extraordinarly difficult to
substantiate...

Ultan Cowley
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27 November 1998 18:44  
  
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:44:12 PST Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: bsg.stewart[at]ulst.ac.uk Subject: Ir-D IASIL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1312884591.8fb31988.5704[at]bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
Ir-D IASIL
  
!!SEE IASIL/Barcelona 1999 PAPER CALL BELOW!!

Dear IASIL Members,

Copies of the official Paper Call for the IASIL Conference 1999 to be
held at the University of Barcelona on 26th-19th July 1999 have been
sent out from that campus and should reach all current members in the
days ahead.

This is expected to be a very exciting conference at a highly-esteemed
cultural venue in a very beautiful part of the Old World. Here are the
main details regarding paper proposals.

Members may have had problems accessing IASIL pages on the Web. These
are due to a change in server at my university and related problems of
access and management at this end. Please accept my apologies.

The Web Pages will be mended shortly and in time to carry contents of
the IASIL Newsletter - which must reach you by Christmas or my
professional goose is cooked.

Meanwhile the Conference Organiser has established a web page with
conference information including Accommodation details and
subscription/booking forms at http://www.ub.es/filoan/iasil. In my
experience, the page is a little slow to load but well worth waiting
for.

Please do not hesitate to call on me if you have any difficulty
getting further information. Yours, 'Goose' Stewart (IASIL Sec.)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

CONFERENCE TITLE: Irish Literatures at Century's End

SUB-THEMES:
History and Politics in Irish Literatures
Irish Literatures and Europe
Post-colonial Ireland
Utopia and Dystopia in Irish Literatures
Gender and Irish Literatures
Irish Literatures and the Cinema
Nation(s)/Nationalism(s) in Ireland and Spain
Irish Literatures at the fin-de-siecle
Irish poetry/-ies now
Teaching Irish Literatures
Postmodernism in Irish Literatures
Irish Literatures and Translation

PAPER FORMAT:
Approx. 20 mins. delivery time followed by 10 minutes for questions
and discussion. (Maximum length: 2,500 words.)

DEADLINE FOR PROPOSALS & ABSTRACTS:
January 8th, 1999

ADDRESS FOR PROPOSALS & ABSTRACTS:
Dr. Jacqueline Hurtley
Departament de Filologia Anglesa i Alemanys
Universitat de Barcelona
Gran Via de les Corts Catalanes, 585
08007 Barcelona

Tel. +34-93-4035677 (direct line to University office, January-July
1999) Fax +34-93-3171249 (direct line to Department office) e-mail:
hurtley[at]lingua.fil.ub.es

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University of Ulster
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tel (44) 01265 51579 hm
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28 November 1998 09:36  
  
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I myself have been doing some work on Irish harvesters near Birmingham, I
posted a reference to Frank Neal of a fight in Birmingham that in retrospect I
guess I should have shared. So here it is.

During harvest time in 1837, protestant Irish Missionary for the Birmingham
Town Mission, Thomas Augustin Finigan, noted a gang of seasonal harvesters in
John Street Birmingham and commented upon their impoverished position and how
this was a reason for hostility between them and the host population. He noted
there was fighting,

"Between a party of Irish labourers who came here to reap the harvest and who
with their hooks in hand, seemed well disposed to use them upon some
thoughtless young men who insulted them and cast reflections on these poor
shoeless and shillingless bogtrotters from Connaught." The Journal of Thomas
Augustin Finigan Missionary, Birmingham Town mission 1837-1838. Birmingham
City Archive MSS, August, 1838.

I have also thought about this issue of harvesters moving into navvy-work. The
parallels with harvesting are clear, the need for a young, low-skill,
seasonal, mobile workforce prepared to tramp to different jobs and billet in
lodging houses and other temporary accommodation. The whole issue of local
resentment to the Irish articulated around wages and conditions and subsequent
inter-ethnic violence etc. is present in both groups. To add to this, it would
seem reasonable to argue that those with these skills and knowledge of the
work opportunities over a wide area would also have pre-disposed them towards
the building trade as an occupation. David Brooke in his "The Railway Navvy:
That Despicable Race of Men" (1983) noted that Irish navvies were concentrated
north of Birmingham and I have a couple of references to them in the town.

By at least 1815 Irish born had began to penetrate the low-skill builder's
labourer job market in Birmingham, which they dominated by 1836. A similar
pattern is also seen in London, Manchester and Liverpool I believe. The
building work was still seasonal to some extent, many Irish applying for
relief in Birmingham in 1855 due to six weeks of inclement weather. There was
also some resentment show towards them by their English neighbors, but the
specific economic base of Birmingham precluded too much competition for low-
skill labouring work.

As for canals, the only thing I can find showing the Irish had anything to do
with canals in Birmingham is from 1855 and pretty meager. It is regarding
fraudulent applications for poor relief. "Three men were known to leave their
boat on the canal to come for relief." "Report from the Select Committee on
Poor Removal 1855". British Parliamentary Papers, Poor Law 23, Irish
University Press, Shannon, 1970, p3.

At least it shows they were using this form of transport to get to Birmingham.

I wonder if anyone has any references to harvesters or navvies in the English
Midlands/Welsh border?

Alexander Peach
DeMontfort University
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30 November 1998 10:28  
  
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:28:38 EST Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
Ir-D Grants for Projects
  
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Here in Britain we have been following with interest the winding up of
what must be one of the last remnants of the former United Kingdom of
Great Britain and Ireland - the Irish Sailors and Soldiers Land Trust
(ISSLT).

Following the winding up of the ISSLT, the Office of the Taoiseach, the
prime minister of the Republic of Ireland, now has a sum of IR£1.49
million to allocate to individuals and organisations with a significant
contribition to make towards relevant projects. There is an Assessment
Committee, chaired by the Department of the Taoiseach.

An Information Sheet and application forms can be obtained from
Paul McGarry/Catherine Griffin
Department of the Taoiseach
Government Buildings
Upper Merrion Street
Dublin 2

Tel 01 662 4888
Fax 01 662 1972
email webmaster[at]taoiseach.irlgov.ie

Note that the closing date for the receipt of completed application
forms is
December 15 1999.

There are two ways in which the work we do, in Irish Diaspora Studies,
would seem to fit within the guidelines for 'relevant projects'...
The Assessment Committee is looking for projects which would promote
mutual understanding and reconciliation between Great Britain and
Ireland...
and projects which would promote the welfare of the Irish community in
Great Britain...

Patrick O'Sullivan



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30 November 1998 11:15  
  
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:15:06 -0500 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: Kerby Miller <histkm[at]showme.missouri.edu> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
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This is a little late to answer your question, but Vincent Powers's
doctoral thesis, "Invisible Immigrants" the Irish in Pre-Famine Worcester,
Mass." (Clark University, ca. 1976-80), writes of entire Irish canal
construction crews recruited in England to work on the Blackstone Canal in
Worcester (one of the first canals in the U.S., I think) ca. 1810-20. I
believe that his thesis was published in the last 5-10 years by Garland
Press (New York).
Kerby Miller.


>APROPOS of Frank Neal's request for `press references' to antagonism
>between by English agricultural workers towards Irish harvesters, I
>recently found the following in THE COUNTRYMAN BOOK, JW ROBERTSON
>SCOTT,Oldhams press, London, 1948, p. 160 :
>`A GRAVE DIGGER'S DIARY,1763-1831' - kept over 17 years, between 1814 &
>1831...
>`August 1824 ...On Sunday next we had a mob of 30 of our men Rison upon the
>irish men all our Men had Bludgins in their hands But our Farmers Joseph
>Payen Samuel Swannell Joseph Swannell Made pease'.
>
>In my own research into the history of the Irish navvies I have frequently
>found reference to Irish harvesters being attacked by English navvies but
>haven't made notes on such. Hostility between English agricultural labourers
>and 19C. English navvies seems to have been widespread ("I'll give 'ee
>sixpence if you'll show me your tail", English rustic to author's English
>navvy father, Sullivan, Dick, NAVVYMAN, 1984).
>
>While I'm on the subject, there seems to be little written about the
>crossover from harvester to navvy (apart from MacGill) yet that must have
>been a natural tendency. Old Irish navvies I've interviewed who `came over'
>in the `Twenties all began their careers in England as harvesters, some
>following the agricultural cycle from June to December, and then going to
>`The Smoke' and `into oul' headin's' (construction tunnels) for the winter.
>
>By the way, does anyone have any hard evidence for the presence of Irishmen
>on the 18th C. English canals ? Like so much else covered by the Irish
>claim that `we built Britain', it seems extraordinarly difficult to
>substantiate...
>
>Ultan Cowley
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30 November 1998 13:15  
  
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:15:06 -0500 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9811.txt]
  
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Forwarded on behalf of Ron Marken:


Canadian Association for Irish Studies
Conference

Dear CAIS members,

I hereby invite you to submit your proposal for a paper to present at
our annual conference. Our meetings will take place at Bishop?s
University, Lennoxville, Quebec, from June 2nd through June 4th, 1999.
We do not have a theme for the conference, believing instead that an
overarching idea will emerge from the papers we receive and accept.

The deadline for your proposal is February 14. Please limit it to one
page. Send proposals to:

Dr. R.N.G. Marken
Conference Chair, pro tem
Department of English
University of Saskatchewan
Saskatoon, SK S7N 5A5

To register for the 1999 CAIS Conference, please contact:

Marcia Boisvert, Director
Conferences
Bishop?s University
Lennoxville, Quebec J1M 1Z7

At the Annual General Meeting we will be electing our new President. I
hope you will make every effort to attend.

Best holiday wishes,
Ron Marken
President
CAIS
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1 December 1998 11:58  
  
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:58:06 -0500 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9812.txt]
  
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Forwarded on behalf of Steve Coleman

Rural Ireland and Modernization
A Conference Sponsored by
the Anthropological Association of Ireland and the
Tipperary Rural and Business Development Association

11th-12th December, 1998, at the Hayes Hotel, Thurles, Co. Tipperary,
Ireland.

info: +353 0 504-24488; FAX +353 0 504 24671

Plenary Lecture:

Michael Herzfeld (Harvard) European Intimacies: Forms of Identity and the
New Millennium.

Papers:

Alan Bairner (U. of Ulster) and John Sugden (Brighton) Representing the
Nation: The Gaelic Athletic Association and Representations of Irishness.

Hilary Tovey (Trinity, Dublin) The Struggle for an Agrarian Modernity:
Peasantization and Depeasantization in Twentieth Century Rural Ireland.

Paul Maher and Albert Nolan (Knockanrawley Resource Center) Localized
Alternatives to Globalization.

Steve Coleman (Chicago/Maynooth) 'A Cat and a Mouse in a Box' --
Alternative Irish Modernities.

Mary Gibbs Kershner (Montgomery County, PA) Protecting Agricultural Land
and Fostering Growth: The Case of Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.

Anne Buttimer (University College Dublin) Language and Life: Issues of
Scale and Development; Reflections of Case Studies in Co. Tipperary.

Stuart McLean (Columbia / LSB Dublin) Storytelling in the Archives: The
Irish Folklore Commission and the Great Famine.

Adrian Peace (Adelaide) Celtic Tigers and Irish Villagers: The Fate and
Fortune of Irish Community.

Drew Walker (Rutgers) Uprising of the Garden Gnomes.

Frank Hutchinson (Waterford) Suicide, Modernity, and Rural Ireland.

Colm Breathnach (Maynooth) From the Poor in our Community to Poor
Communities.

Roland Tormey (Mary Immaculate, Limerick) and Tom Prendeville (Convent of
Mercy, Limerick) From the "Psychologically Toxic" to "A Living Death" --
Differences in Education Disadvantage in Urban and Rural Areas.


Posted by Steve Coleman (scoleman[at]midway.uchicago.edu)

______________________
Steve Coleman
Department of Anthropology, National University of Ireland,
Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland. Ph. +353 1 708 3932 FAX +353 1 708 3570
_______________________

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1 December 1998 11:59  
  
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:59:06 -0500 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: Patrick Maume <P.Maume[at]Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> [IR-DLOG9812.txt]
  
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From: Patrick Maume

Mercier Press have just brought out an interesting little book - IN THE LEGION OF
THE VANGUARD by John A. Pinkman (1902-70), describing his activities in the
Liverpool IRA during the War of Independence and in the Free State "Dublin
Guards" [the elite unit built around Collins' Squad] during the Civil War. A brief
editorial note describes his post-1924 life as a seaman in New York and fitter and
night watchman in Dublin. The editor, Francis E. Maguire, came across Pinkman
while researching the Liverpool Brigade and persuaded him to write his
recollections. The long delay in publication partly derives from the editors' desire
to authenticate this material by reference to other witnesses and accounts, but I
suspect it also derived from fear that some of those mentioned might take offence if
it appeared while they were still alive.
Pinkman (who claims his name derives from a mistranslation of "Maguire" a few
generations back), was born in Bootle (near Liverpool) of Leitrim parents. He
gives some interesting details on his upbringing and school experiences, on
summer visits to Ireland, and on his experience of discrimination as an apprentice
in the shipyards.
He joined the Liverpool IRA in 1918 & describes drilling - he participated in
gunrunning & in the burning of timber warehouses as a reprisal for events in
Ireland. With several other IRA men he was caught while setting fire to farms near
Liverpool as a similar reprisal - he attributes this to the incompetence of the
LIverpool Company commander, who failed to plan it out properly. (This is part of
a pattern - he makes scathing comments about the difference between the actual
size of the Liverpool Company and those who later claimed to have served in the
"Liverpool Battalion" or the "Liverpool Brigade", and received medals and
pensions.] He describes his imprisonment and prison protests in Dartmoor.
Pinkman was released after the signing of the Treaty and went to Dublin to join
the Free State Army. He describes the fighting in O'Connell Street, in Kilkenny,
and in Munster. He comments on other accounts of the Civil War; he disputes
Dorothy Macardle's account of the death of Cathal Brugha - he claims Brugha was
actually shot from Findlaters' Building while attempting to escape across
Thomas' Lane from the back of the Hammam - and he disputes Calton Younger's
accounts of events in Kilkenny and around Kilmallock.
His attitude to the Republicans is scathing. He records that the Dublin Guard
called them "padjoes" [i.e. countrymen]. He accuses them of regularly misusing
the Red Cross symbol to cover their military operations. He recalls at one point
lying in wait with some friends at a spot where they had been told de Valera was to
pass, and makes it quite clear that they intended to kill him, not take him prisoner.
He gives the fullest account I have seen in print of the Free State conspiracy
theory about Erskine Childers, in which he claims Childers was a British spy from
the beginning of his Irish involvement and the Howth gunrunning was a put-up job
involving obsolete rifles. (As there are still a few people who believe this, though
it has not received the same currency as the "Dalton shot Collins" equivalent, I
should point out that Pinkman shows himself completely ignorant of Childers'
strong family links with Ireland & that obsolete weapons are exactly what you would
expect to get on the black market.) Pinkman also believes that a British agent shot
Collins ( he attributes this to his conversations with Collins' guide John O'Connell,
who served as Rex Taylor's major source for the Beal na mBlath ambush) though
he does not name the person involved, he seems to mean Dalton.
Pinkman states that he eventually retired from the FS Army because of his
objection to the use of torture (he states from direct knowledge that Colonel
Fitzmaurice the aviator tortured prisoners); he remarks himself that while he did
not object to killing he thought it wrong to use torture.
There is a strong note of bitterness and disappointment in the memoirs; a
recurring theme is ingratitude to those like Neil Kerr (Collins' main man in
Liverpool) who devoted their lives to the cause. He mentions an old
Liverpool Fenian who having devoted his life to Ireland as a priest would to the
church (including an actual vow of celibacy) went to jail in the place of another man
during the War of Independence. On his release he returned to the new Irish state,
where he was "rewarded" with a menial job in Portobello Barracks and died three
weeks later of a broken heart. This theme fairly clearly reflects Pinkman's own
disappointment with the later course of his life, the death of Collins, & the
post-independence Irish state. (There is also, I notice, a certain feeling of remorse
at the suffering he caused to his parents - age looking back on youth.)
I'm not really competent to judge the accuracy of this book, but it seems to give
an interesting acount of the War of Independence in Liverpool and of conditions in
the FS Army during the Civil War. It's available for 9.99 from Mercier Press, PO
Box 5, 5 French Church Street, Cork/ 16 Hume Street, Dublin 2, or $15.95 from Irish
American Book Company, 6309 Monarch Park Place, Niwot, COLORADO, 80503.

Patrick Maume
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1 December 1998 18:14  
  
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:14:06 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9812.txt]
  
Ir-D Charles Warren Center Fellowship
  
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We are in discussion with Werner Sollors, of the Charles Warren Center and of
the Longfellow Institute, Harvard, about mutual interests.

Werner Sollors has now asked that the following announcement be brought to the
attention of the Irish-Diaspora list, and indeed I think that this fellowship
will be of interest to a number of Ir-D list members...


Forwarded on behalf of Werner Sollors

The Charles Warren Center invites applications for its 1999-2000
fellowships from scholars who are interested in contributing to our theme,
"After 'Base and Superstructure': Economy and Culture in American Society."

We welcome projects ranging over time from the colonial period to the late
twentieth century, in methodology from concrete case studies in more
theoretical investigations, and in subject from the economics of cultural
production and consumption to the cultural and ideological stimuli for
economic change. Our goal is to probe the multiple and complex historical
relationships between the economy and culture in American society, as well
as to explore past and present attempts to account for these
relationships. Projects that place the American case in comparative or
global context are welcome.

Fellows will share in a semi-monthly Warren Center seminar, coordinated by
Lizabeth Cohen (History, American Civilization) and Werner Sollors
(English, American Civilization, Afro-American Studies). In addition to
discussing the work of invited speakers, fellows will be expected to
present their own work over the course of the year. The seminar is also
open to interested scholars in the Boston area who are not fellows.
Boston-area scholars who would like to participate should notify us of
their interest. In addition, individuals who are not available to apply
for a fellowship but would like to present their work to the seminar as
guest speakers should inform us of their topics and availability.

The Center welcomes applications from scholars who are not
citizens of the United States. Applicants must not be degree candidates
at any institution, and should have a Ph.D. or equivalent degree.
Preference will be given to those who can accept a full-year fellowship.
Fellowship stipends are individually determined in accordance with the
needs of each fellow and the Center's ability to meet them.

Application forms, due in the Center by January 15, 1999, may be
obtained by writing to the Administrator, Charles Warren Center, Emerson
Hall 4th floor, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA 02138; or by emailing
cwc[at]fas.harvard.edu.



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3 December 1998 18:14  
  
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:14:06 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9812.txt]
  
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If you're going to San Francisco...

The American Conference for Irish Studies and the International James Joyce
Foundation are co-sponsoring this year's ACIS party at the MLA convention
in San Francisco. 6pm-8pm, Tuesday, 29 December, the Marriott Hotel, ask
for the room of Morris Beja. For more information, contact Margot Backus
or (716) 385-8189.

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4 December 1998 08:14  
  
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:14:06 Reply-To: irish-diaspora[at]bradford.ac.uk Sender: From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <P.OSullivan[at]Bradford.ac.uk> [IR-DLOG9812.txt]
  
Ir-D 11 or 12 Irish-Americans
  
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[This is a follow up to an earlier Ir-D message. I have re-posted that
original message, as 'Ir-D first Barkan message', to remind everyone of
Elliott Barkan's project. Please circulate these two messages to anyone
you think might be interested. And would anyone who is interested
please contact Elliott Barkan directly. P.O'S.]



Forwarded on behalf of...

Elliott R. Barkan
ebarkan[at]csusb.edu


Paddy,
This is a follow up to your memo of Oct. 26. I am now trying to
parcel out the Irish bios so that no one has to do all 11 or 12 (and
possibly more). Would you know of someone who might be interested in
doing a few, say 3-4, bios? I could then send that person, or persons,
the detailed information and then insure that the Irish in America are
well represented. Thanks for your help. Elliott



Elliott R. Barkan
Professor of History & Ethnic Studies
Book Review Editor, JOURNAL OF AMERICAN ETHNIC HISTORY
California State University
San Bernardino, CA 92407-2397
909-880-5525 (o)
909-880-5524 (sec)
909-880-5985 (fax)
ebarkan[at]csusb.edu

HAVE A GREAT DAY!

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